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position:0% hul eie gevolgtrekkings en insigte te maak van 00:05:06.960 --> 00:05:09.909 align:start position:0% hul eie gevolgtrekkings en insigte te maak van die <00:05:07.191>resultaat <00:05:07.422>of <00:05:07.653>dit <00:05:07.884>die <00:05:08.115>woorde <00:05:08.346>is <00:05:08.577>wat <00:05:08.808>gespreek <00:05:09.039>is 00:05:09.909 --> 00:05:09.919 align:start position:0% die resultaat of dit die woorde is wat gespreek is 00:05:09.919 --> 00:05:12.790 align:start position:0% die resultaat of dit die woorde is wat gespreek is of <00:05:10.212>die <00:05:10.505>woorde <00:05:10.798>wat <00:05:11.091>onuitgesproke <00:05:11.384>gelaat <00:05:11.677>word <00:05:11.970>of <00:05:12.263>bloot <00:05:12.556>die 00:05:12.790 --> 00:05:12.800 align:start position:0% of die woorde wat onuitgesproke gelaat word of bloot die 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:14.310 align:start position:0% of die woorde wat onuitgesproke gelaat word of bloot die stilte 00:05:14.310 --> 00:05:14.320 align:start 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teruggegee word, te maksimeer 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:05.509 align:start position:0% aan beleggers en aandeelhouers teruggegee word, te maksimeer en <00:09:03.510>nie <00:09:03.741>om <00:09:03.972>die <00:09:04.203>gesondheid <00:09:04.434>te <00:09:04.665>optimaliseer <00:09:04.896>nie. <00:09:05.127>van <00:09:05.358>die 00:09:05.509 --> 00:09:05.519 align:start position:0% en nie om die gesondheid te optimaliseer nie. van die 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.110 align:start position:0% en nie om die gesondheid te optimaliseer nie. van die Amerikaanse <00:09:05.759>mense <00:09:05.999>wat 00:09:07.110 --> 00:09:07.120 align:start position:0% Amerikaanse mense wat 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.430 align:start position:0% Amerikaanse mense wat so <00:09:07.839>herbalanseer <00:09:08.558>dat <00:09:09.277>vergelyking 00:09:09.430 --> 00:09:09.440 align:start position:0% so herbalanseer dat vergelyking 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:10.470 align:start position:0% so herbalanseer dat vergelyking die 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position:0% is nie moontlik sonder wagrelings 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.430 align:start position:0% is nie moontlik sonder wagrelings wat <00:09:45.551>die <00:09:45.902>integriteit <00:09:46.253>en <00:09:46.604>die <00:09:46.955>balans 00:09:47.430 --> 00:09:47.440 align:start position:0% wat die integriteit en die balans 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.509 align:start position:0% wat die integriteit en die balans van <00:09:47.691>die <00:09:47.942>kennis <00:09:48.193>handhaaf <00:09:48.444>sonder <00:09:48.695>daardie <00:09:48.946>veiligheidsrelings <00:09:49.197>nie 00:09:49.509 --> 00:09:49.519 align:start position:0% van die kennis handhaaf sonder daardie veiligheidsrelings nie 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:52.230 align:start position:0% van die kennis handhaaf sonder daardie veiligheidsrelings nie , <00:09:49.999>dit <00:09:50.479>is <00:09:50.959>soos <00:09:51.439>om <00:09:51.919>'n 00:09:52.230 --> 00:09:52.240 align:start position:0% , dit is soos om 'n 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:53.910 align:start position:0% , dit is soos om 'n professionele <00:09:52.512>basketbalwedstryd <00:09:52.784>te <00:09:53.056>probeer <00:09:53.328>speel <00:09:53.600>sonder 00:09:53.910 --> 00:09:53.920 align:start position:0% professionele basketbalwedstryd te probeer speel sonder 00:09:53.920 --> 00:09:56.470 align:start position:0% professionele basketbalwedstryd te probeer speel sonder skeidsregters <00:09:54.500>en <00:09:55.080>spelers <00:09:55.660>noem <00:09:56.240>hul 00:09:56.470 --> 00:09:56.480 align:start position:0% skeidsregters en spelers noem hul 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.030 align:start position:0% skeidsregters en spelers noem hul eie <00:09:56.780>foute, <00:09:57.080>maar <00:09:57.380>die <00:09:57.680>spelers <00:09:57.980>word <00:09:58.280>betaal <00:09:58.580>om <00:09:58.880>te 00:09:59.030 --> 00:09:59.040 align:start position:0% eie foute, maar die spelers word betaal om te 00:09:59.040 --> 00:09:59.829 align:start position:0% eie foute, maar die spelers word 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position:0% wat in beheer is, ons het nie daardie 00:10:05.839 --> 00:10:08.630 align:start position:0% wat in beheer is, ons het nie daardie skeidsregters <00:10:06.170>in <00:10:06.501>die <00:10:06.832>Amerikaanse <00:10:07.163>gesondheidsorg <00:10:07.494>nie, <00:10:07.825>dit <00:10:08.156>is 00:10:08.630 --> 00:10:08.640 align:start position:0% skeidsregters in die Amerikaanse gesondheidsorg nie, dit is 00:10:08.640 --> 00:10:09.910 align:start position:0% skeidsregters in die Amerikaanse gesondheidsorg nie, dit is die <00:10:08.880>grootste 00:10:09.910 --> 00:10:09.920 align:start position:0% die grootste 00:10:09.920 --> 00:10:11.590 align:start position:0% die grootste 00:10:11.590 --> 00:10:11.600 align:start position:0% 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:13.829 align:start position:0% manier <00:10:12.140>waarop <00:10:12.680>Amerikaanse <00:10:13.220>gesondheidsorg <00:10:13.760>word 00:10:13.829 --> 00:10:13.839 align:start position:0% manier waarop Amerikaanse gesondheidsorg word 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align:start position:0% en jy het sy boek genoem 00:10:22.560 --> 00:10:24.870 align:start position:0% en jy het sy boek genoem kapitalisme <00:10:22.920>en <00:10:23.280>vryheid <00:10:23.640>genoem <00:10:24.000>hy <00:10:24.360>skryf <00:10:24.720>dat 00:10:24.870 --> 00:10:24.880 align:start position:0% kapitalisme en vryheid genoem hy skryf dat 00:10:24.880 --> 00:10:26.630 align:start position:0% kapitalisme en vryheid genoem hy skryf dat daar <00:10:25.279>net <00:10:25.678>drie <00:10:26.077>wettige 00:10:26.630 --> 00:10:26.640 align:start position:0% daar net drie wettige 00:10:26.640 --> 00:10:29.110 align:start position:0% daar net drie wettige funksies <00:10:27.013>van <00:10:27.386>die <00:10:27.759>regering <00:10:28.132>is <00:10:28.505>om <00:10:28.878>wet 00:10:29.110 --> 00:10:29.120 align:start position:0% funksies van die regering is om wet 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:31.750 align:start position:0% funksies van die regering is om wet en <00:10:29.333>orde 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<00:11:03.583>vryemarkkapitalisme <00:11:04.159>het 00:11:05.350 --> 00:11:05.360 align:start position:0% wat ons guru van vryemarkkapitalisme het 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.750 align:start position:0% wat ons guru van vryemarkkapitalisme het gesê <00:11:05.791>die <00:11:06.222>regering <00:11:06.653>moet <00:11:07.084>presteer, <00:11:07.515>so 00:11:07.750 --> 00:11:07.760 align:start position:0% gesê die regering moet presteer, so 00:11:07.760 --> 00:11:11.110 align:start position:0% gesê die regering moet presteer, so dit <00:11:08.160>is <00:11:08.560>die <00:11:08.960>absolute <00:11:09.360>basislyn 00:11:11.110 --> 00:11:11.120 align:start position:0% dit is die absolute basislyn 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.590 align:start position:0% dit is die absolute basislyn oor <00:11:11.302>die <00:11:11.484>behoud <00:11:11.666>van <00:11:11.848>wet <00:11:12.030>en <00:11:12.212>bevel <00:11:12.394>dat 00:11:13.590 --> 00:11:13.600 align:start position:0% oor die behoud van wet en bevel dat 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.790 align:start position:0% oor die behoud van wet en bevel dat die <00:11:14.586>dwelmmaatskappye <00:11:15.572>gereeld <00:11:16.558>die 00:11:16.790 --> 00:11:16.800 align:start position:0% die dwelmmaatskappye gereeld die 00:11:16.800 --> 00:11:20.150 align:start position:0% die dwelmmaatskappye gereeld die wet <00:11:17.120>oortree <00:11:17.440>in <00:11:17.760>terme <00:11:18.080>van <00:11:18.400>hul <00:11:18.720>bemarking 00:11:20.150 --> 00:11:20.160 align:start position:0% wet oortree in terme van hul bemarking 00:11:20.160 --> 00:11:21.750 align:start position:0% wet oortree in terme van hul bemarking en <00:11:20.800>uh 00:11:21.750 --> 00:11:21.760 align:start position:0% en uh 00:11:21.760 --> 00:11:24.389 align:start position:0% en uh in <00:11:22.200>terme <00:11:22.640>van 00:11:24.389 --> 00:11:24.399 align:start position:0% in terme van 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:25.269 align:start position:0% in terme van hul 00:11:25.269 --> 00:11:25.279 align:start position:0% hul 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:27.670 align:start position:0% hul aanbieding <00:11:25.695>van <00:11:26.111>die <00:11:26.527>resultate <00:11:26.943>van <00:11:27.359>hul 00:11:27.670 --> 00:11:27.680 align:start position:0% aanbieding van die resultate van hul 00:11:27.680 --> 00:11:29.190 align:start position:0% aanbieding van die resultate van hul proewe, 00:11:29.190 --> 00:11:29.200 align:start position:0% proewe, 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.910 align:start position:0% proewe, ek <00:11:29.529>weet <00:11:29.858>dit <00:11:30.187>omdat <00:11:30.516>ek <00:11:30.845>was <00:11:31.174>'n <00:11:31.503>deskundige <00:11:31.832>in 00:11:31.910 --> 00:11:31.920 align:start position:0% ek weet dit omdat ek was 'n deskundige in 00:11:31.920 --> 00:11:35.750 align:start position:0% ek weet dit omdat ek was 'n deskundige in litigasie <00:11:32.420>vir <00:11:32.920>ongeveer <00:11:33.420>10 <00:11:33.920>jaar, 00:11:35.750 --> 00:11:35.760 align:start position:0% litigasie vir ongeveer 10 jaar, 00:11:35.760 --> 00:11:36.630 align:start position:0% litigasie vir ongeveer 10 jaar, ek 00:11:36.630 --> 00:11:36.640 align:start position:0% ek 00:11:36.640 --> 00:11:38.389 align:start position:0% ek het <00:11:36.906>van <00:11:37.172>wat <00:11:37.438>ek <00:11:37.704>geleer <00:11:37.970>het <00:11:38.236>in 00:11:38.389 --> 00:11:38.399 align:start position:0% het van wat ek geleer het in 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:39.269 align:start position:0% het van wat ek geleer het in siviele 00:11:39.269 --> 00:11:39.279 align:start position:0% siviele 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.269 align:start position:0% siviele litigasie <00:11:39.545>aan <00:11:39.811>die <00:11:40.077>fbi <00:11:40.343>en <00:11:40.609>die <00:11:40.875>departement 00:11:41.269 --> 00:11:41.279 align:start position:0% litigasie aan die fbi en die departement 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:42.470 align:start position:0% litigasie aan die fbi en die departement van <00:11:41.359>justisie <00:11:41.439>aangebied 00:11:42.470 --> 00:11:42.480 align:start position:0% van justisie aangebied 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.870 align:start position:0% van justisie aangebied en <00:11:42.731>daardie <00:11:42.982>saak <00:11:43.233>het <00:11:43.484>gelei <00:11:43.735>tot <00:11:43.986>die <00:11:44.237>grootste 00:11:44.870 --> 00:11:44.880 align:start position:0% en daardie saak het gelei tot die grootste 00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:46.310 align:start position:0% en daardie saak het gelei tot die grootste kriminele <00:11:45.360>boete 00:11:46.310 --> 00:11:46.320 align:start position:0% kriminele boete 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.910 align:start position:0% kriminele boete in <00:11:46.548>die <00:11:46.776>geskiedenis <00:11:47.004>van <00:11:47.232>die <00:11:47.460>VSA <00:11:47.688>vanaf <00:11:47.916>2009 00:11:49.910 --> 00:11:49.920 align:start position:0% in die geskiedenis van die VSA vanaf 2009 00:11:49.920 --> 00:11:52.870 align:start position:0% in die geskiedenis van die VSA vanaf 2009 en <00:11:50.256>ek <00:11:50.592>het <00:11:50.928>getuig <00:11:51.264>in <00:11:51.600>'n 00:11:52.870 --> 00:11:52.880 align:start position:0% en ek het getuig in 'n 00:11:52.880 --> 00:11:54.829 align:start position:0% en ek het getuig in 'n federale <00:11:53.440>verhoor <00:11:54.000>in 00:11:54.829 --> 00:11:54.839 align:start position:0% federale verhoor in 00:11:54.839 --> 00:11:59.509 align:start position:0% federale verhoor in 2010 <00:11:55.404>en <00:11:55.969>die <00:11:56.534>jurie <00:11:57.099>het <00:11:57.664>pfizer <00:11:58.229>skuldig <00:11:58.794>bevind <00:11:59.359>aan 00:11:59.509 --> 00:11:59.519 align:start position:0% 2010 en die jurie het pfizer skuldig bevind aan 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:02.310 align:start position:0% 2010 en die jurie het pfizer skuldig bevind aan bedrog <00:11:59.946>en <00:12:00.373>rampokkery <00:12:00.800>oortredings 00:12:02.310 --> 00:12:02.320 align:start position:0% bedrog en rampokkery oortredings 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:03.829 align:start position:0% bedrog en rampokkery oortredings in <00:12:02.506>terme <00:12:02.692>van <00:12:02.878>die 00:12:03.829 --> 00:12:03.839 align:start position:0% in terme van die 00:12:03.839 --> 00:12:06.230 align:start position:0% in terme van die oortreding <00:12:04.124>van <00:12:04.409>die <00:12:04.694>wet <00:12:04.979>dit <00:12:05.264>is <00:12:05.549>'n <00:12:05.834>roetine- 00:12:06.230 --> 00:12:06.240 align:start position:0% oortreding van die wet dit is 'n roetine- 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.550 align:start position:0% oortreding van die wet dit is 'n roetine- voorval <00:12:06.500>die <00:12:06.760>dwelmmaatskappye <00:12:07.020>Ek <00:12:07.280>dink <00:12:07.540>1991 <00:12:07.800>tot <00:12:08.060>2017 <00:12:08.320>het 00:12:08.550 --> 00:12:08.560 align:start position:0% voorval die dwelmmaatskappye Ek dink 1991 tot 2017 het 00:12:08.560 --> 00:12:11.190 align:start position:0% voorval die dwelmmaatskappye Ek dink 1991 tot 2017 het 38 <00:12:09.056>miljard <00:12:09.552>dollar <00:12:10.048>se <00:12:10.544>boetes <00:12:11.040>betaal 00:12:11.190 --> 00:12:11.200 align:start position:0% 38 miljard dollar se boetes betaal 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.670 align:start position:0% 38 miljard dollar se boetes betaal . 00:12:15.670 --> 00:12:15.680 align:start position:0% . 00:12:15.680 --> 00:12:20.190 align:start position:0% . Dit <00:12:16.306>was <00:12:16.932>nog <00:12:17.558>nooit <00:12:18.184>genoeg <00:12:18.810>om <00:12:19.436>die 00:12:20.190 --> 00:12:20.200 align:start position:0% Dit was nog nooit genoeg om die 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.190 align:start position:0% Dit was nog nooit genoeg om die wanvoorstelling <00:12:20.446>van <00:12:20.692>hul <00:12:20.938>data <00:12:21.184>te <00:12:21.430>keer <00:12:21.676>nie 00:12:23.190 --> 00:12:23.200 align:start position:0% wanvoorstelling van hul data te keer nie 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.750 align:start position:0% wanvoorstelling van hul data te keer nie en <00:12:23.600>selde <00:12:24.000>is <00:12:24.400>die <00:12:24.800>boetes <00:12:25.200>groter <00:12:25.600>as 00:12:25.750 --> 00:12:25.760 align:start position:0% en selde is die boetes groter as 00:12:25.760 --> 00:12:27.670 align:start position:0% en selde is die boetes groter as die <00:12:26.000>winste <00:12:26.240>wat <00:12:26.480>gemaak <00:12:26.720>is. 00:12:27.670 --> 00:12:27.680 align:start position:0% die winste wat gemaak is. 00:12:27.680 --> 00:12:28.629 align:start position:0% die winste wat gemaak is. 00:12:28.629 --> 00:12:31.829 align:start position:0% 00:12:31.829 --> 00:12:31.839 align:start position:0% 00:12:31.839 --> 00:12:34.230 align:start position:0% data 00:12:34.230 --> 00:12:34.240 align:start position:0% data 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.350 align:start position:0% data wat <00:12:34.832>selfs <00:12:35.424>tienduisende <00:12:36.016>sterftes <00:12:36.608>betrek <00:12:37.200>het 00:12:37.350 --> 00:12:37.360 align:start position:0% wat selfs tienduisende sterftes betrek het 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:40.230 align:start position:0% wat selfs tienduisende sterftes betrek het in <00:12:37.780>die <00:12:38.200>geval <00:12:38.620>van <00:12:39.040>vioxx 00:12:40.230 --> 00:12:40.240 align:start position:0% in die geval van vioxx 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.069 align:start position:0% in die geval van vioxx oxycontin <00:12:41.200>ook 00:12:42.069 --> 00:12:42.079 align:start position:0% oxycontin ook 00:12:42.079 --> 00:12:44.870 align:start position:0% oxycontin ook en <00:12:42.607>wanneer <00:12:43.135>maatskappye <00:12:43.663>skuldig <00:12:44.191>pleit <00:12:44.719>op 00:12:44.870 --> 00:12:44.880 align:start position:0% en wanneer maatskappye skuldig pleit op 00:12:44.880 --> 00:12:47.190 align:start position:0% en wanneer maatskappye skuldig pleit op misdade <00:12:45.319>wat <00:12:45.758>nie <00:12:46.197>'n <00:12:46.636>ongewone 00:12:47.190 --> 00:12:47.200 align:start position:0% misdade wat nie 'n ongewone 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:48.310 align:start position:0% misdade wat nie 'n ongewone gebeurtenis is nie, 00:12:48.310 --> 00:12:48.320 align:start position:0% gebeurtenis is nie, 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.389 align:start position:0% gebeurtenis is nie, laat <00:12:48.800>die <00:12:49.280>regering <00:12:49.760>gewoonlik <00:12:50.240>die 00:12:50.389 --> 00:12:50.399 align:start position:0% laat die regering gewoonlik die 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:53.190 align:start position:0% laat die regering gewoonlik die maatskappye <00:12:50.999>die <00:12:51.599>moedermaatskappye <00:12:52.199>toe <00:12:52.799>om 00:12:53.190 --> 00:12:53.200 align:start position:0% maatskappye die moedermaatskappye toe om 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:55.990 align:start position:0% maatskappye die moedermaatskappye toe om filiale <00:12:53.440>toe <00:12:53.680>te <00:12:53.920>laat <00:12:54.160>om <00:12:54.400>die <00:12:54.640>pleit <00:12:54.880>te <00:12:55.120>neem 00:12:55.990 --> 00:12:56.000 align:start position:0% filiale toe te laat om die pleit te neem 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.949 align:start position:0% filiale toe te laat om die pleit te neem sodat <00:12:56.400>hulle <00:12:56.800>is <00:12:57.200>nie <00:12:57.600>een <00:12:58.000>stap <00:12:58.400>nader <00:12:58.800>daaraan 00:12:58.949 --> 00:12:58.959 align:start position:0% sodat hulle is nie een stap nader daaraan 00:12:58.959 --> 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in daardie sin is daar <00:13:07.680>' 00:13:09.509 --> 00:13:09.519 align:start position:0% daar ' 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:10.949 align:start position:0% daar ' n <00:13:09.680>meganisme 00:13:10.949 --> 00:13:10.959 align:start position:0% n meganisme 00:13:10.959 --> 00:13:13.350 align:start position:0% n meganisme wat <00:13:12.160>blykbaar 00:13:13.350 --> 00:13:13.360 align:start position:0% wat blykbaar 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.670 align:start position:0% wat blykbaar wet <00:13:13.645>en <00:13:13.930>orde <00:13:14.215>op <00:13:14.500>dwelmmaatskappy <00:13:14.785>se <00:13:15.070>gedrag <00:13:15.355>afdwing, 00:13:15.670 --> 00:13:15.680 align:start position:0% wet en orde op dwelmmaatskappy se gedrag afdwing, 00:13:15.680 --> 00:13:18.069 align:start position:0% wet en orde op dwelmmaatskappy se gedrag afdwing, maar <00:13:16.013>dit <00:13:16.346>is <00:13:16.679>duidelik <00:13:17.012>nie <00:13:17.345>genoeg <00:13:17.678>nie, 00:13:18.069 --> 00:13:18.079 align:start position:0% maar dit is duidelik nie genoeg nie, 00:13:18.079 --> 00:13:20.389 align:start position:0% maar dit is duidelik nie genoeg nie, dit <00:13:18.399>werk <00:13:18.719>nie <00:13:19.039>kan <00:13:19.359>jy <00:13:19.679>eintlik <00:13:19.999>praat 00:13:20.389 --> 00:13:20.399 align:start position:0% dit werk nie kan jy eintlik praat 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.389 align:start position:0% dit werk nie kan jy eintlik praat vir die 00:13:22.389 --> 00:13:22.399 align:start position:0% vir die 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.470 align:start position:0% vir die menslike <00:13:22.799>natuur <00:13:23.199>hier 00:13:24.470 --> 00:13:24.480 align:start position:0% menslike natuur hier 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.230 align:start position:0% menslike natuur hier is <00:13:24.800>mense <00:13:25.120>korrup 00:13:26.230 --> 00:13:26.240 align:start position:0% is mense korrup 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.310 align:start position:0% is mense korrup is <00:13:26.520>mense <00:13:26.800>kwaadwillig 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byvoorbeeld by groot farmaseutiese 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:38.550 align:start position:0% adviseur byvoorbeeld by groot farmaseutiese maatskappye 00:13:38.550 --> 00:13:38.560 align:start position:0% maatskappye 00:13:38.560 --> 00:13:40.310 align:start position:0% maatskappye hoe <00:13:38.773>is <00:13:38.986>dit <00:13:39.199>moontlik 00:13:40.310 --> 00:13:40.320 align:start position:0% hoe is dit moontlik 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:42.069 align:start position:0% hoe is dit moontlik so <00:13:40.560>ek <00:13:40.800>glo 00:13:42.069 --> 00:13:42.079 align:start position:0% so ek glo 00:13:42.079 --> 00:13:43.910 align:start position:0% so ek glo net <00:13:42.296>in <00:13:42.513>'n <00:13:42.730>klein <00:13:42.947>raaklyn <00:13:43.164>dat <00:13:43.381>die <00:13:43.598>meeste 00:13:43.910 --> 00:13:43.920 align:start position:0% net in 'n klein raaklyn dat die meeste 00:13:43.920 --> 00:13:45.110 align:start position:0% net in 'n klein raaklyn dat die meeste mense <00:13:43.999>goed 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00:16:17.110 --> 00:16:17.120 align:start position:0% en daardie borrel laat jou toe om te 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:18.310 align:start position:0% en daardie borrel laat jou toe om te dryf 00:16:18.310 --> 00:16:18.320 align:start position:0% dryf 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.430 align:start position:0% dryf in <00:16:18.573>terme <00:16:18.826>van <00:16:19.079>wat <00:16:19.332>jy <00:16:19.585>sien <00:16:19.838>as 00:16:21.430 --> 00:16:21.440 align:start position:0% in terme van wat jy sien as 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.150 align:start position:0% in terme van wat jy sien as eties <00:16:21.800>en <00:16:22.160>oneties 00:16:24.150 --> 00:16:24.160 align:start position:0% eties en oneties 00:16:24.160 --> 00:16:26.310 align:start position:0% eties en oneties omdat <00:16:24.457>jy <00:16:24.754>sien <00:16:25.051>die <00:16:25.348>speletjie <00:16:25.645>as <00:16:25.942>net <00:16:26.239>jy 00:16:26.310 --> 00:16:26.320 align:start position:0% omdat jy sien die speletjie as net jy 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betaal is net deel 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:34.389 align:start position:0% reg en om die boetes te betaal is net deel van <00:16:33.399>die <00:16:33.519>spel 00:16:34.389 --> 00:16:34.399 align:start position:0% van die spel 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.550 align:start position:0% van die spel van <00:16:34.639>die <00:16:34.879>wetenskap <00:16:35.119>ja 00:16:36.550 --> 00:16:36.560 align:start position:0% van die wetenskap ja 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:39.269 align:start position:0% van die wetenskap ja en <00:16:36.879>sonder <00:16:37.198>wagrelings <00:16:37.517>word 00:16:39.269 --> 00:16:39.279 align:start position:0% en sonder wagrelings word 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:40.310 align:start position:0% en sonder wagrelings word 00:16:40.310 --> 00:16:40.320 align:start position:0% 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:42.310 align:start position:0% dit <00:16:40.582>nog <00:16:40.844>meer <00:16:41.106>deel <00:16:41.368>van <00:16:41.630>die <00:16:41.892>speletjie <00:16:42.154>jy 00:16:42.310 --> 00:16:42.320 align:start position:0% dit nog meer deel van die speletjie jy 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.870 align:start position:0% dit nog meer deel van die speletjie jy bly <00:16:42.720>beweeg <00:16:43.120>in <00:16:43.520>daardie <00:16:43.920>rigting <00:16:44.320>as <00:16:44.720>jy 00:16:44.870 --> 00:16:44.880 align:start position:0% bly beweeg in daardie rigting as jy 00:16:44.880 --> 00:16:45.990 align:start position:0% bly beweeg in daardie rigting as jy nie 00:16:45.990 --> 00:16:46.000 align:start position:0% nie 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.069 align:start position:0% nie teen <00:16:46.293>vantrelings <00:16:46.586>stamp <00:16:46.879>nie 00:16:48.069 --> 00:16:48.079 align:start position:0% teen vantrelings stamp nie 00:16:48.079 --> 00:16:49.910 align:start position:0% teen vantrelings stamp nie en <00:16:48.319>ek <00:16:48.559>dink <00:16:48.799>dit <00:16:49.039>is <00:16:49.279>hoe <00:16:49.519>ons <00:16:49.759>by 00:16:49.910 --> 00:16:49.920 align:start position:0% en ek dink dit is hoe ons by 00:16:49.920 --> 00:16:53.430 align:start position:0% en ek dink dit is hoe ons by die <00:16:50.140>uiterste <00:16:50.360>situasie <00:16:50.580>gekom <00:16:50.800>het <00:16:51.020>waarin <00:16:51.240>ons <00:16:51.460>nou <00:16:51.680>is, 00:16:53.430 --> 00:16:53.440 align:start position:0% die uiterste situasie gekom het waarin ons nou is, 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:56.389 align:start position:0% die uiterste situasie gekom het waarin ons nou is, so <00:16:53.805>soos <00:16:54.170>ek <00:16:54.535>genoem <00:16:54.900>het, <00:16:55.265>het <00:16:55.630>ek <00:16:55.995>met 00:16:56.389 --> 00:16:56.399 align:start position:0% so soos ek genoem het, het ek met 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:00.150 align:start position:0% so soos ek genoem het, het ek met albert <00:16:56.615>berla, <00:16:56.831>uitvoerende <00:16:57.047>hoof <00:16:57.263>van <00:16:57.479>pfizer <00:16:57.695>gepraat <00:16:57.911>en <00:16:58.127>ek <00:16:58.343>wil <00:16:58.559>graag 00:17:00.150 --> 00:17:00.160 align:start position:0% albert berla, uitvoerende hoof van pfizer gepraat en ek wil graag 00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:01.829 align:start position:0% albert berla, uitvoerende hoof van pfizer gepraat en ek wil graag met <00:17:00.350>jou <00:17:00.540>grootmaak <00:17:00.730>sommige <00:17:00.920>van <00:17:01.110>die <00:17:01.300>bekommernisse <00:17:01.490>wat <00:17:01.680>ek 00:17:01.829 --> 00:17:01.839 align:start position:0% met jou grootmaak sommige van die bekommernisse wat ek 00:17:01.839 --> 00:17:03.670 align:start position:0% met jou grootmaak sommige van die bekommernisse wat ek met <00:17:01.999>hom <00:17:02.159>geopper <00:17:02.319>het 00:17:03.670 --> 00:17:03.680 align:start position:0% met hom geopper het 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:05.990 align:start position:0% met hom geopper het so <00:17:03.906>een <00:17:04.132>wat <00:17:04.358>jy <00:17:04.584>reeds <00:17:04.810>genoem <00:17:05.036>het 00:17:05.990 --> 00:17:06.000 align:start position:0% so een wat jy reeds genoem het 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.750 align:start position:0% so een wat jy reeds genoem het ek <00:17:06.266>het <00:17:06.532>die <00:17:06.798>kommer <00:17:07.064>geopper <00:17:07.330>dat <00:17:07.596>pfizer 00:17:07.750 --> 00:17:07.760 align:start position:0% ek het die kommer geopper dat pfizer 00:17:07.760 --> 00:17:10.230 align:start position:0% ek het die kommer geopper dat pfizer betrokke <00:17:08.079>is <00:17:08.398>by <00:17:08.717>aggressiewe <00:17:09.036>advertensie 00:17:10.230 --> 00:17:10.240 align:start position:0% betrokke is by aggressiewe advertensie 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.069 align:start position:0% betrokke is by aggressiewe advertensie veldtogte 00:17:12.069 --> 00:17:12.079 align:start position:0% veldtogte 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:15.429 align:start position:0% veldtogte soos <00:17:12.279>jy <00:17:12.479>jou <00:17:12.679>kan <00:17:12.879>voorstel <00:17:13.079>hy <00:17:13.279>het <00:17:13.479>nee <00:17:13.679>gesê 00:17:15.429 --> 00:17:15.439 align:start position:0% soos jy jou kan voorstel hy het nee gesê 00:17:15.439 --> 00:17:16.829 align:start position:0% soos jy jou kan voorstel hy het nee gesê wat <00:17:15.599>dink <00:17:15.759>jy 00:17:16.829 --> 00:17:16.839 align:start position:0% wat dink jy 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:18.390 align:start position:0% wat dink jy 00:17:18.390 --> 00:17:18.400 align:start position:0% 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.270 align:start position:0% ek <00:17:18.687>dink <00:17:18.974>julle <00:17:19.261>is <00:17:19.548>albei <00:17:19.835>reg 00:17:21.270 --> 00:17:21.280 align:start position:0% ek dink julle is albei reg 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:23.829 align:start position:0% ek dink julle is albei reg ek <00:17:21.512>dink <00:17:21.744>dat <00:17:21.976>die <00:17:22.208>ek <00:17:22.440>stem <00:17:22.672>saam <00:17:22.904>met <00:17:23.136>hom <00:17:23.368>jy <00:17:23.600>dat 00:17:23.829 --> 00:17:23.839 align:start position:0% ek dink dat die ek stem saam met hom jy dat 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.750 align:start position:0% ek dink dat die ek stem saam met hom jy dat die <00:17:24.346>aggressiewe <00:17:24.853>advertensie <00:17:25.360>veldtogte 00:17:27.750 --> 00:17:27.760 align:start position:0% die aggressiewe advertensie veldtogte 00:17:27.760 --> 00:17:30.470 align:start position:0% die aggressiewe advertensie veldtogte nie <00:17:27.973>waarde <00:17:28.186>toevoeg <00:17:28.399>tot <00:17:28.612>die <00:17:28.825>samelewing <00:17:29.038>nie 00:17:30.470 --> 00:17:30.480 align:start position:0% nie waarde toevoeg tot die samelewing nie 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:32.950 align:start position:0% nie waarde toevoeg tot die samelewing nie en <00:17:30.697>ek <00:17:30.914>stem <00:17:31.131>saam <00:17:31.348>met <00:17:31.565>hom <00:17:31.782>dat <00:17:31.999>dit 00:17:32.950 --> 00:17:32.960 align:start position:0% en ek stem saam met hom dat dit 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.870 align:start position:0% en ek stem saam met hom dat dit vir <00:17:33.136>die <00:17:33.312>grootste <00:17:33.488>deel <00:17:33.664>wettig <00:17:33.840>is 00:17:34.870 --> 00:17:34.880 align:start position:0% vir die grootste deel wettig is 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:36.870 align:start position:0% vir die grootste deel wettig is en <00:17:35.008>dit <00:17:35.136>is <00:17:35.264>die <00:17:35.392>manier <00:17:35.520>waarop <00:17:35.648>die <00:17:35.776>spel <00:17:35.904>reg <00:17:36.032>gespeel <00:17:36.160>word 00:17:36.870 --> 00:17:36.880 align:start position:0% en dit is die manier waarop die spel reg gespeel word 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:39.510 align:start position:0% en dit is die manier waarop die spel reg gespeel word so <00:17:37.215>jammer <00:17:37.550>om <00:17:37.885>te <00:17:38.220>onderbreek <00:17:38.555>maar 00:17:39.510 --> 00:17:39.520 align:start position:0% so jammer om te onderbreek maar 00:17:39.520 --> 00:17:43.350 align:start position:0% so jammer om te onderbreek maar dikwels <00:17:40.266>is <00:17:41.012>sy <00:17:41.758>reaksies 00:17:43.350 --> 00:17:43.360 align:start position:0% dikwels is sy reaksies 00:17:43.360 --> 00:17:44.789 align:start position:0% dikwels is sy reaksies um 00:17:44.789 --> 00:17:44.799 align:start position:0% um 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:46.789 align:start position:0% um veral <00:17:45.050>nou <00:17:45.301>hy <00:17:45.552>is <00:17:45.803>uitvoerende <00:17:46.054>hoof <00:17:46.305>vir <00:17:46.556>net 00:17:46.789 --> 00:17:46.799 align:start position:0% veral nou hy is uitvoerende hoof vir net 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:48.549 align:start position:0% veral nou hy is uitvoerende hoof vir net so <00:17:47.039>twee <00:17:47.279>jaar <00:17:47.519>drie <00:17:47.759>jaar 00:17:48.549 --> 00:17:48.559 align:start position:0% so twee jaar drie jaar 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.390 align:start position:0% so twee jaar drie jaar hy <00:17:48.812>sê <00:17:49.065>pfizer <00:17:49.318>was <00:17:49.571>'n <00:17:49.824>ander <00:17:50.077>maatskappy 00:17:50.390 --> 00:17:50.400 align:start position:0% hy sê pfizer was 'n ander maatskappy 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:52.470 align:start position:0% hy sê pfizer was 'n ander maatskappy ons <00:17:50.586>het <00:17:50.772>foute <00:17:50.958>gemaak 00:17:52.470 --> 00:17:52.480 align:start position:0% ons het foute gemaak 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:54.710 align:start position:0% ons het foute gemaak reg <00:17:52.700>in <00:17:52.920>die <00:17:53.140>verlede <00:17:53.360>ons <00:17:53.580>maak <00:17:53.800>nie <00:17:54.020>meer <00:17:54.240>foute 00:17:54.710 --> 00:17:54.720 align:start position:0% reg in die verlede ons maak nie meer foute 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:56.310 align:start position:0% reg in die verlede ons maak nie meer foute 00:17:56.310 --> 00:17:56.320 align:start position:0% 00:17:56.320 --> 00:17:58.150 align:start position:0% dat <00:17:56.480>daar <00:17:56.640>reëls <00:17:56.800>is <00:17:56.960>nie 00:17:58.150 --> 00:17:58.160 align:start position:0% dat daar reëls is nie 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:01.350 align:start position:0% dat daar reëls is nie en <00:17:58.488>ons <00:17:58.816>speel <00:17:59.144>volgens <00:17:59.472>die <00:17:59.800>reëls <00:18:00.128>so <00:18:00.456>soos <00:18:00.784>uh <00:18:01.112>met 00:18:01.350 --> 00:18:01.360 align:start position:0% en ons speel volgens die reëls so soos uh met 00:18:01.360 --> 00:18:03.830 align:start position:0% en ons speel volgens die reëls so soos uh met elke <00:18:01.720>bekommernis <00:18:02.080>wat <00:18:02.440>geopper <00:18:02.800>word <00:18:03.160>baie <00:18:03.520>baie 00:18:03.830 --> 00:18:03.840 align:start position:0% elke bekommernis wat geopper word baie baie 00:18:03.840 --> 00:18:06.630 align:start position:0% elke bekommernis wat geopper word baie baie streng <00:18:04.205>reëls <00:18:04.570>soos <00:18:04.935>hy <00:18:05.300>sê <00:18:05.665>eintlik <00:18:06.030>sê <00:18:06.395>hy 00:18:06.630 --> 00:18:06.640 align:start position:0% streng reëls soos hy sê eintlik sê hy 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:09.190 align:start position:0% streng reëls soos hy sê eintlik sê hy soms <00:18:07.104>heeltemal <00:18:07.568>te <00:18:08.032>streng <00:18:08.496>en <00:18:08.960>ons 00:18:09.190 --> 00:18:09.200 align:start position:0% soms heeltemal te streng en ons 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:09.990 align:start position:0% soms heeltemal te streng en ons speel daarvolgens 00:18:09.990 --> 00:18:10.000 align:start position:0% speel daarvolgens 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.230 align:start position:0% speel daarvolgens en <00:18:10.297>so <00:18:10.594>in <00:18:10.891>daardie <00:18:11.188>sin <00:18:11.485>advertensie <00:18:11.782>lyk <00:18:12.079>dit 00:18:12.230 --> 00:18:12.240 align:start position:0% en so in daardie sin advertensie lyk dit 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.230 align:start position:0% en so in daardie sin advertensie lyk dit nie <00:18:12.413>asof <00:18:12.586>dit <00:18:12.759>te <00:18:12.932>aggressief <00:18:13.105>is <00:18:13.278>nie 00:18:14.230 --> 00:18:14.240 align:start position:0% nie asof dit te aggressief is nie 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.510 align:start position:0% nie asof dit te aggressief is nie want <00:18:14.448>dit <00:18:14.656>speel <00:18:14.864>volgens <00:18:15.072>die <00:18:15.280>reëls 00:18:17.510 --> 00:18:17.520 align:start position:0% want dit speel volgens die reëls 00:18:17.520 --> 00:18:19.350 align:start position:0% want dit speel volgens die reëls en <00:18:17.730>relatief <00:18:17.940>tot <00:18:18.150>die <00:18:18.360>ander <00:18:18.570>weer <00:18:18.780>is <00:18:18.990>dit <00:18:19.200>die 00:18:19.350 --> 00:18:19.360 align:start position:0% en relatief tot die ander weer is dit die 00:18:19.360 --> 00:18:22.070 align:start position:0% en relatief tot die ander weer is dit die spel <00:18:19.559>relatief <00:18:19.758>tot <00:18:19.957>die <00:18:20.156>ander <00:18:20.355>maatskappye <00:18:20.554>is 00:18:22.070 --> 00:18:22.080 align:start position:0% spel relatief tot die ander maatskappye is 00:18:22.080 --> 00:18:24.549 align:start position:0% spel relatief tot die ander maatskappye is dit <00:18:22.304>eintlik <00:18:22.528>nie <00:18:22.752>so <00:18:22.976>aggressief <00:18:23.200>nie 00:18:24.549 --> 00:18:24.559 align:start position:0% dit eintlik nie so aggressief nie 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.150 align:start position:0% dit eintlik nie so aggressief nie maar <00:18:24.772>relatief <00:18:24.985>tot <00:18:25.198>die <00:18:25.411>ander <00:18:25.624>groot <00:18:25.837>farmaseutiese 00:18:26.150 --> 00:18:26.160 align:start position:0% maar relatief tot die ander groot farmaseutiese 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:28.950 align:start position:0% maar relatief tot die ander groot farmaseutiese maatskappy <00:18:26.573>ja <00:18:26.986>ja <00:18:27.399>ek <00:18:27.812>hoop <00:18:28.225>ons <00:18:28.638>kan 00:18:28.950 --> 00:18:28.960 align:start position:0% maatskappy ja ja ek hoop ons kan 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:30.310 align:start position:0% maatskappy ja ja ek hoop ons kan vinnig <00:18:29.560>terugkom <00:18:30.160>of 00:18:30.310 --> 00:18:30.320 align:start position:0% vinnig terugkom of 00:18:30.320 --> 00:18:32.870 align:start position:0% vinnig terugkom of hulle <00:18:30.530>volgens <00:18:30.740>die <00:18:30.950>reëls <00:18:31.160>speel <00:18:31.370>of <00:18:31.580>nie, <00:18:31.790>maar <00:18:32.000>in <00:18:32.210>die <00:18:32.420>algemeen <00:18:32.630>maar 00:18:32.870 --> 00:18:32.880 align:start position:0% hulle volgens die reëls speel of nie, maar in die algemeen maar 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:34.390 align:start position:0% hulle volgens die reëls speel of nie, maar in die algemeen maar kom <00:18:33.074>ons <00:18:33.268>kyk <00:18:33.462>net <00:18:33.656>na <00:18:33.850>die <00:18:34.044>kwessie <00:18:34.238>van 00:18:34.390 --> 00:18:34.400 align:start position:0% kom ons kyk net na die kwessie van 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.110 align:start position:0% kom ons kyk net na die kwessie van advertensies 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dat die 00:21:11.520 --> 00:21:13.590 align:start position:0% maar jy kan net duidelik sien dat die ruimte <00:21:11.800>van <00:21:12.080>menings <00:21:12.360>waarby <00:21:12.640>hulle <00:21:12.920>bereid <00:21:13.200>is 00:21:13.590 --> 00:21:13.600 align:start position:0% ruimte van menings waarby hulle bereid is 00:21:13.600 --> 00:21:15.110 align:start position:0% ruimte van menings waarby hulle bereid is om <00:21:13.813>betrokke <00:21:14.026>te <00:21:14.239>raak 00:21:15.110 --> 00:21:15.120 align:start position:0% om betrokke te raak 00:21:15.120 --> 00:21:16.870 align:start position:0% om betrokke te raak of <00:21:15.280>'n <00:21:15.440>ruimte <00:21:15.600>van <00:21:15.760>idees <00:21:15.920>waarmee <00:21:16.080>hulle <00:21:16.240>bereid <00:21:16.400>is <00:21:16.560>om <00:21:16.720>te 00:21:16.870 --> 00:21:16.880 align:start position:0% of 'n ruimte van idees waarmee hulle bereid is om te 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:18.470 align:start position:0% of 'n ruimte van idees waarmee hulle bereid is om te speel 00:21:18.470 --> 00:21:18.480 align:start position:0% speel 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.310 align:start position:0% speel , <00:21:18.660>een <00:21:18.840>is <00:21:19.020>wat <00:21:19.200>nie 00:21:20.310 --> 00:21:20.320 align:start position:0% , een is wat nie 00:21:20.320 --> 00:21:22.390 align:start position:0% , een is wat nie insluit <00:21:20.586>nie <00:21:20.852>ne <00:21:21.118>gee 00:21:22.390 --> 00:21:22.400 align:start position:0% insluit nie ne gee 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:24.310 align:start position:0% insluit nie ne gee enigiets <00:21:22.703>wat <00:21:23.006>moontlik <00:21:23.309>negatief <00:21:23.612>kan <00:21:23.915>wees 00:21:24.310 --> 00:21:24.320 align:start position:0% enigiets wat moontlik negatief kan wees 00:21:24.320 --> 00:21:26.390 align:start position:0% enigiets wat moontlik negatief kan wees oor <00:21:24.549>die <00:21:24.778>maatskappy <00:21:25.007>wat <00:21:25.236>hulle <00:21:25.465>net <00:21:25.694>kies <00:21:25.923>om <00:21:26.152>nie 00:21:26.390 --> 00:21:26.400 align:start position:0% oor die maatskappy wat hulle net kies om nie 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.510 align:start position:0% oor die maatskappy wat hulle net kies om nie te <00:21:26.720>doen <00:21:27.040>nie, <00:21:27.360>want <00:21:27.680>jy <00:21:28.000>weet <00:21:28.320>hoekom <00:21:28.640>en <00:21:28.960>dat <00:21:29.280>dit 00:21:29.510 --> 00:21:29.520 align:start position:0% te doen nie, want jy weet hoekom en dat dit 00:21:29.520 --> 00:21:31.669 align:start position:0% te doen nie, want jy weet hoekom en dat dit vir <00:21:29.727>my <00:21:29.934>baie <00:21:30.141>hartseer <00:21:30.348>is <00:21:30.555>dat 00:21:31.669 --> 00:21:31.679 align:start position:0% vir my baie hartseer is dat 00:21:31.679 --> 00:21:33.510 align:start position:0% vir my baie hartseer is dat jy <00:21:31.839>weet <00:21:31.999>as <00:21:32.159>jy <00:21:32.319>my <00:21:32.479>honderd <00:21:32.639>dollar <00:21:32.799>gee, <00:21:32.959>is 00:21:33.510 --> 00:21:33.520 align:start position:0% jy weet as jy my honderd dollar gee, is 00:21:33.520 --> 00:21:35.029 align:start position:0% jy weet as jy my honderd dollar gee, is ek <00:21:33.820>minder <00:21:34.120>geneig <00:21:34.420>om <00:21:34.720>iets 00:21:35.029 --> 00:21:35.039 align:start position:0% ek minder geneig om iets 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:36.950 align:start position:0% ek minder geneig om iets negatiefs <00:21:35.439>oor <00:21:35.839>jou 00:21:36.950 --> 00:21:36.960 align:start position:0% negatiefs oor jou 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:38.390 align:start position:0% negatiefs oor jou te 00:21:38.390 --> 00:21:38.400 align:start position:0% te 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:40.870 align:start position:0% te sê. <00:21:38.816>Ek <00:21:39.232>is <00:21:39.648>hartseer, <00:21:40.064>want <00:21:40.480>die 00:21:40.870 --> 00:21:40.880 align:start position:0% sê. Ek is hartseer, want die 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:42.549 align:start position:0% sê. Ek is hartseer, want die rede <00:21:41.104>waarom <00:21:41.328>ek <00:21:41.552>nie <00:21:41.776>iets <00:21:42.000>negatiefs 00:21:42.549 --> 00:21:42.559 align:start position:0% rede waarom ek nie iets negatiefs 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:44.950 align:start position:0% rede waarom ek nie iets negatiefs oor <00:21:42.791>jou <00:21:43.023>sal <00:21:43.255>sê <00:21:43.487>nie, <00:21:43.719>ek <00:21:43.951>verkies, <00:21:44.183>is <00:21:44.415>die <00:21:44.647>druk <00:21:44.879>van 00:21:44.950 --> 00:21:44.960 align:start position:0% oor jou sal sê nie, ek verkies, is die druk van 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:46.950 align:start position:0% oor jou sal sê nie, ek verkies, is die druk van vriendskap <00:21:45.400>en <00:21:45.840>menslike <00:21:46.280>konneksie, <00:21:46.720>daardie 00:21:46.950 --> 00:21:46.960 align:start position:0% vriendskap en menslike konneksie, daardie 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:48.230 align:start position:0% vriendskap en menslike konneksie, daardie soort <00:21:47.280>dinge, 00:21:48.230 --> 00:21:48.240 align:start position:0% soort dinge, 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:50.149 align:start position:0% soort dinge, so <00:21:48.448>ek <00:21:48.656>verstaan <00:21:48.864>dit <00:21:49.072>is <00:21:49.280>terlo 00:21:50.149 --> 00:21:50.159 align:start position:0% so ek verstaan dit is terlo 00:21:50.159 --> 00:21:52.310 align:start position:0% so ek verstaan dit is terlo ps <00:21:50.543>ook <00:21:50.927>'n <00:21:51.311>probleem, <00:21:51.695>so <00:21:52.079>hulle 00:21:52.310 --> 00:21:52.320 align:start position:0% ps ook 'n probleem, so hulle 00:21:52.320 --> 00:21:53.830 align:start position:0% ps ook 'n probleem, so hulle het <00:21:52.560>aandetes <00:21:52.800>begin <00:21:53.040>eet <00:21:53.280>en <00:21:53.520>hande 00:21:53.830 --> 00:21:53.840 align:start position:0% het aandetes begin eet en hande 00:21:53.840 --> 00:21:56.789 align:start position:0% het aandetes begin eet en hande geskud <00:21:54.151>en <00:21:54.462>O, <00:21:54.773>is <00:21:55.084>ons <00:21:55.395>nie <00:21:55.706>vriende <00:21:56.017>nie, <00:21:56.328>maar <00:21:56.639>die 00:21:56.789 --> 00:21:56.799 align:start position:0% geskud en O, is ons nie vriende nie, maar die 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:58.630 align:start position:0% geskud en O, is ons nie vriende nie, maar die feit <00:21:57.079>dat <00:21:57.359>geld <00:21:57.639>daardie <00:21:57.919>effek <00:21:58.199>het, <00:21:58.479>is 00:21:58.630 --> 00:21:58.640 align:start position:0% feit dat geld daardie effek het, is 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:00.070 align:start position:0% feit dat geld daardie effek het, is vir <00:21:58.880>my <00:21:59.120>baie <00:21:59.360>hartseer 00:22:00.070 --> 00:22:00.080 align:start position:0% vir my baie hartseer 00:22:00.080 --> 00:22:02.789 align:start position:0% vir my baie hartseer op <00:22:00.480>die <00:22:00.880>nuusmedia <00:22:01.280>oor <00:22:01.680>die <00:22:02.080>joernaliste <00:22:02.480>op 00:22:02.789 --> 00:22:02.799 align:start position:0% op die nuusmedia oor die joernaliste op 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.190 align:start position:0% op die nuusmedia oor die joernaliste op wetenskaplikes, 00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:05.200 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes, 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.510 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes, dit <00:22:05.470>is <00:22:05.740>vir <00:22:06.010>my <00:22:06.280>skrikwekkend, <00:22:06.550>maar <00:22:06.820>natuurlik <00:22:07.090>is <00:22:07.360>die 00:22:07.510 --> 00:22:07.520 align:start position:0% dit is vir my skrikwekkend, maar natuurlik is die 00:22:07.520 --> 00:22:09.270 align:start position:0% dit is vir my skrikwekkend, maar natuurlik is die direkte <00:22:07.920>advertensie <00:22:08.320>aan <00:22:08.720>verbruikers <00:22:09.120>soos 00:22:09.270 --> 00:22:09.280 align:start position:0% direkte advertensie aan verbruikers soos 00:22:09.280 --> 00:22:10.870 align:start position:0% direkte advertensie aan verbruikers soos jy <00:22:09.493>gesê <00:22:09.706>het <00:22:09.919>'n <00:22:10.132>potensieel <00:22:10.345>baie <00:22:10.558>negatiewe 00:22:10.870 --> 00:22:10.880 align:start position:0% jy gesê het 'n potensieel baie negatiewe 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:13.830 align:start position:0% jy gesê het 'n potensieel baie negatiewe effek <00:22:11.263>ek <00:22:11.646>wou <00:22:12.029>vra <00:22:12.412>of <00:22:12.795>uh 00:22:13.830 --> 00:22:13.840 align:start position:0% effek ek wou vra of uh 00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:15.430 align:start position:0% effek ek wou vra of uh wat <00:22:14.026>dink <00:22:14.212>jy <00:22:14.398>is <00:22:14.584>die <00:22:14.770>mees <00:22:14.956>negatiewe 00:22:15.430 --> 00:22:15.440 align:start position:0% wat dink jy is die mees negatiewe 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:17.830 align:start position:0% wat dink jy is die mees negatiewe impak <00:22:15.824>van <00:22:16.208>advertensie <00:22:16.592>is <00:22:16.976>dit <00:22:17.360>so 00:22:17.830 --> 00:22:17.840 align:start position:0% impak van advertensie is dit so 00:22:17.840 --> 00:22:20.230 align:start position:0% impak van advertensie is dit so direk <00:22:18.160>aan <00:22:18.480>verbruiker <00:22:18.800>op <00:22:19.120>televisie 00:22:20.230 --> 00:22:20.240 align:start position:0% direk aan verbruiker op televisie 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.430 align:start position:0% direk aan verbruiker op televisie is <00:22:20.559>dit <00:22:20.878>advertensie <00:22:21.197>van <00:22:21.516>die <00:22:21.835>dokters <00:22:22.154>wat 00:22:23.430 --> 00:22:23.440 align:start position:0% is dit advertensie van die dokters wat 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:25.350 align:start position:0% is dit advertensie van die dokters wat ek <00:22:23.645>verbaas <00:22:23.850>is <00:22:24.055>om <00:22:24.260>verdien <00:22:24.465>waarna <00:22:24.670>ek <00:22:24.875>vaagweg 00:22:25.350 --> 00:22:25.360 align:start position:0% ek verbaas is om verdien waarna ek vaagweg 00:22:25.360 --> 00:22:27.270 align:start position:0% ek verbaas is om verdien 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align:start position:0% nie sê nie, is dat jy 323 <00:24:04.720>mense 00:24:05.750 --> 00:24:05.760 align:start position:0% 323 mense 00:24:05.760 --> 00:24:08.630 align:start position:0% 323 mense moet <00:24:06.008>behandel <00:24:06.256>om <00:24:06.504>een <00:24:06.752>nie-dodelike <00:24:07.000>gebeurtenis <00:24:07.248>teen <00:24:07.496>'n <00:24:07.744>koste <00:24:07.992>van <00:24:08.240>2 00:24:08.630 --> 00:24:08.640 align:start position:0% moet behandel om een nie-dodelike gebeurtenis teen 'n koste van 2 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.510 align:start position:0% moet behandel om een nie-dodelike gebeurtenis teen 'n koste van 2 7 <00:24:08.880>miljoen <00:24:09.120>dollar <00:24:09.360>te <00:24:09.600>voorkom <00:24:09.840>en <00:24:10.080>se 00:24:11.510 --> 00:24:11.520 align:start position:0% 7 miljoen dollar te voorkom en se 00:24:11.520 --> 00:24:13.830 align:start position:0% 7 miljoen dollar te voorkom en se fs <00:24:11.951>nog <00:24:12.382>belangriker 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position:0% die uh algemene wysheid onder dokters 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:56.710 align:start position:0% die uh algemene wysheid onder dokters en <00:26:54.799>ek <00:26:55.039>dink <00:26:55.279>oor <00:26:55.519>die <00:26:55.759>algemeen <00:26:55.999>is <00:26:56.239>dat <00:26:56.479>jy 00:26:56.710 --> 00:26:56.720 align:start position:0% en ek dink oor die algemeen is dat jy 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:58.470 align:start position:0% en ek dink oor die algemeen is dat jy nie <00:26:56.880>mense <00:26:57.040>kan <00:26:57.200>laat <00:26:57.360>verander <00:26:57.520>nie <00:26:57.680>jy <00:26:57.840>weet <00:26:58.000>jy <00:26:58.160>kan <00:26:58.320>doen 00:26:58.470 --> 00:26:58.480 align:start position:0% nie mense kan laat verander nie jy weet jy kan doen 00:26:58.480 --> 00:26:59.990 align:start position:0% nie mense kan laat verander nie jy weet jy kan doen wat <00:26:58.706>jy <00:26:58.932>wil <00:26:59.158>jy <00:26:59.384>kan <00:26:59.610>op <00:26:59.836>jou 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00:28:20.230 --> 00:28:20.240 align:start position:0% probleme oplos nie, daar moet een of 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.310 align:start position:0% probleme oplos nie, daar moet een of ander <00:28:20.575>manier <00:28:20.910>wees <00:28:21.245>om <00:28:21.580>die <00:28:21.915>openbare 00:28:22.310 --> 00:28:22.320 align:start position:0% ander manier wees om die openbare 00:28:22.320 --> 00:28:24.470 align:start position:0% ander manier wees om die openbare belang <00:28:22.626>te <00:28:22.932>beskerm <00:28:23.238>vir <00:28:23.544>dinge <00:28:23.850>wat <00:28:24.156>nie 00:28:24.470 --> 00:28:24.480 align:start position:0% belang te beskerm vir dinge wat nie 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.389 align:start position:0% belang te beskerm vir dinge wat nie finansieel <00:28:24.693>gedryf <00:28:24.906>word <00:28:25.119>nie, 00:28:26.389 --> 00:28:26.399 align:start position:0% finansieel gedryf word nie, 00:28:26.399 --> 00:28:28.230 align:start position:0% finansieel gedryf word nie, 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--> 00:29:09.990 align:start position:0% kommunikeerders is, ja, <00:29:08.759>ek <00:29:08.959>dink 00:29:09.990 --> 00:29:10.000 align:start position:0% ja, ek dink 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.350 align:start position:0% ja, ek dink jy <00:29:10.240>moet <00:29:10.480>jou <00:29:10.720>hoed <00:29:10.960>vir <00:29:11.200>joe 00:29:11.350 --> 00:29:11.360 align:start position:0% jy moet jou hoed vir joe 00:29:11.360 --> 00:29:13.110 align:start position:0% jy moet jou hoed vir joe steek <00:29:11.506>om <00:29:11.652>daardie <00:29:11.798>boodskap <00:29:11.944>uit <00:29:12.090>te <00:29:12.236>kry 00:29:13.110 --> 00:29:13.120 align:start position:0% steek om daardie boodskap uit te kry 00:29:13.120 --> 00:29:16.389 align:start position:0% steek om daardie boodskap uit te kry en <00:29:13.554>hy <00:29:13.988>glo <00:29:14.422>dit <00:29:14.856>duidelik <00:29:15.290>en <00:29:15.724>doen <00:29:16.158>sy 00:29:16.389 --> 00:29:16.399 align:start position:0% en hy glo dit duidelik en 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hoed om, maar dit gaan nie 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.870 align:start position:0% ek maak my hoed om, maar dit gaan nie die <00:29:58.440>dag <00:29:58.640>dra <00:29:58.840>vir <00:29:59.040>die <00:29:59.240>meeste <00:29:59.440>van <00:29:59.640>die <00:29:59.840>mense 00:30:00.870 --> 00:30:00.880 align:start position:0% die dag dra vir die meeste van die mense 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.029 align:start position:0% die dag dra vir die meeste van die mense totdat <00:30:01.165>dit <00:30:01.450>die <00:30:01.735>legitimiteit <00:30:02.020>het <00:30:02.305>nie <00:30:02.590>van <00:30:02.875>die 00:30:03.029 --> 00:30:03.039 align:start position:0% totdat dit die legitimiteit het nie van die 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:04.470 align:start position:0% totdat dit die legitimiteit het nie van die mediese <00:30:03.466>instelling <00:30:03.893>ja <00:30:04.320>soos 00:30:04.470 --> 00:30:04.480 align:start position:0% mediese instelling ja soos 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:06.310 align:start 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--> 00:30:20.310 align:start position:0% lewenstylveranderinge te toets ek bedoel dit is dit is dit moeiliker 00:30:20.310 --> 00:30:20.320 align:start position:0% moeiliker 00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:21.909 align:start position:0% moeiliker ek <00:30:20.608>bedoel <00:30:20.896>alles <00:30:21.184>is <00:30:21.472>moeilik <00:30:21.760>in 00:30:21.909 --> 00:30:21.919 align:start position:0% ek bedoel alles is moeilik in 00:30:21.919 --> 00:30:22.950 align:start position:0% ek bedoel alles is moeilik in wetenskap 00:30:22.950 --> 00:30:22.960 align:start position:0% wetenskap 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.590 align:start position:0% wetenskap met <00:30:23.240>daardie <00:30:23.520>wetenskap <00:30:23.800>waarby <00:30:24.080>mense <00:30:24.360>betrokke <00:30:24.640>is, 00:30:25.590 --> 00:30:25.600 align:start position:0% met daardie wetenskap waarby mense betrokke is, 00:30:25.600 --> 00:30:28.470 align:start position:0% met daardie wetenskap waarby mense betrokke is, veral, 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opleiding luister <00:31:34.453>net <00:31:34.666>na <00:31:34.879>reduksionistiese 00:31:36.230 --> 00:31:36.240 align:start position:0% luister net na reduksionistiese 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:37.430 align:start position:0% luister net na reduksionistiese um 00:31:37.430 --> 00:31:37.440 align:start position:0% um 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.389 align:start position:0% um uh <00:31:38.059>studies <00:31:38.678>en <00:31:39.297>gevolgtrekkings <00:31:39.916>en 00:31:40.389 --> 00:31:40.399 align:start position:0% uh studies en gevolgtrekkings en 00:31:40.399 --> 00:31:42.470 align:start position:0% uh studies en gevolgtrekkings en metodes <00:31:40.662>om <00:31:40.925>gesondheid <00:31:41.188>te <00:31:41.451>bevorder <00:31:41.714>niemand <00:31:41.977>niemand <00:31:42.240>sê 00:31:42.470 --> 00:31:42.480 align:start position:0% metodes om gesondheid te bevorder niemand niemand sê 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.269 align:start position:0% metodes om gesondheid te bevorder niemand niemand sê dit <00:31:43.039>uitdruklik <00:31:43.598>b <00:31:44.157>die 00:31:45.269 --> 00:31:45.279 align:start position:0% dit uitdruklik b die 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.590 align:start position:0% dit uitdruklik b die respektabele <00:31:46.320>wetenskap 00:31:47.590 --> 00:31:47.600 align:start position:0% respektabele wetenskap 00:31:47.600 --> 00:31:49.750 align:start position:0% respektabele wetenskap het <00:31:47.779>te <00:31:47.958>doen <00:31:48.137>met <00:31:48.316>die <00:31:48.495>beheer <00:31:48.674>van <00:31:48.853>die <00:31:49.032>faktore 00:31:49.750 --> 00:31:49.760 align:start position:0% het te doen met die beheer van die faktore 00:31:49.760 --> 00:31:52.950 align:start position:0% het te doen met die beheer van die faktore en <00:31:50.240>ek <00:31:50.720>bedoel <00:31:51.200>dit <00:31:51.680>maak <00:31:52.160>net <00:31:52.640>nie 00:31:52.950 --> 00:31:52.960 align:start position:0% en ek bedoel dit maak net nie 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.070 align:start position:0% en ek bedoel dit maak net nie vir <00:31:53.013>my <00:31:53.066>sin <00:31:53.119>nie, 00:31:54.070 --> 00:31:54.080 align:start position:0% vir my sin nie, 00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:55.350 align:start position:0% vir my sin nie, ek <00:31:54.271>gaan <00:31:54.462>op <00:31:54.653>ware <00:31:54.844>geletterdheid <00:31:55.035>kies, 00:31:55.350 --> 00:31:55.360 align:start position:0% ek gaan op ware geletterdheid kies, 00:31:55.360 --> 00:31:57.350 align:start position:0% ek gaan op ware geletterdheid kies, want <00:31:55.611>dit <00:31:55.862>is <00:31:56.113>so <00:31:56.364>'n <00:31:56.615>duidelike <00:31:56.866>voorbeeld, <00:31:57.117>maar 00:31:57.350 --> 00:31:57.360 align:start position:0% want dit is so 'n duidelike voorbeeld, maar 00:31:57.360 --> 00:31:59.990 align:start position:0% want dit is so 'n duidelike voorbeeld, maar dit <00:31:57.702>is <00:31:58.044>nie <00:31:58.386>meer <00:31:58.728>verskriklik <00:31:59.070>as <00:31:59.412>die <00:31:59.754>as 00:31:59.990 --> 00:32:00.000 align:start position:0% dit is nie meer verskriklik as die as 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.269 align:start position:0% dit is nie meer verskriklik as die as baie <00:32:00.399>ander 00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:01.279 align:start position:0% baie ander 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:03.269 align:start position:0% baie ander dit <00:32:01.432>nie. <00:32:01.585>maak <00:32:01.738>nie <00:32:01.891>vir <00:32:02.044>my <00:32:02.197>sin <00:32:02.350>om <00:32:02.503>toe <00:32:02.656>te <00:32:02.809>laat <00:32:02.962>dat <00:32:03.115>'n 00:32:03.269 --> 00:32:03.279 align:start position:0% dit nie. maak nie vir my sin om toe te laat dat 'n 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.110 align:start position:0% dit nie. maak nie vir my sin om toe te laat dat 'n middel <00:32:03.505>geadverteer <00:32:03.731>word <00:32:03.957>as <00:32:04.183>die <00:32:04.409>voorkoming <00:32:04.635>van 00:32:05.110 --> 00:32:05.120 align:start position:0% middel geadverteer word as die voorkoming van 00:32:05.120 --> 00:32:08.070 align:start position:0% middel geadverteer word as die voorkoming van kardiovaskulêre <00:32:05.866>siektes <00:32:06.612>as <00:32:07.358>jy 00:32:08.070 --> 00:32:08.080 align:start position:0% kardiovaskulêre siektes as jy 00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:10.549 align:start position:0% kardiovaskulêre siektes as jy nie <00:32:08.560>lewenstylveranderinge <00:32:09.040>as <00:32:09.520>'n <00:32:10.000>arm <00:32:10.480>by 00:32:10.549 --> 00:32:10.559 align:start position:0% nie lewenstylveranderinge as 'n arm by 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.789 align:start position:0% nie lewenstylveranderinge as 'n arm by die <00:32:10.859>studie <00:32:11.159>ingesluit <00:32:11.459>het <00:32:11.759>nie, 00:32:12.789 --> 00:32:12.799 align:start position:0% die studie ingesluit het nie, 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:14.789 align:start position:0% die studie ingesluit het nie, dit <00:32:13.119>is <00:32:13.439>net <00:32:13.759>so <00:32:14.079>glashelder <00:32:14.399>dat <00:32:14.719>die 00:32:14.789 --> 00:32:14.799 align:start position:0% dit is net so glashelder dat die 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.470 align:start position:0% dit is net so glashelder dat die doel <00:32:14.979>van <00:32:15.159>daardie <00:32:15.339>studie <00:32:15.519>is <00:32:15.699>om <00:32:15.879>waarheid <00:32:16.059>te <00:32:16.239>verkoop 00:32:16.470 --> 00:32:16.480 align:start position:0% doel van daardie studie is om waarheid te verkoop 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.789 align:start position:0% doel van daardie studie is om waarheid te verkoop . <00:32:16.697>om <00:32:16.914>nie <00:32:17.131>kardiovaskulêre <00:32:17.348>siekte <00:32:17.565>te <00:32:17.782>voorkom <00:32:17.999>nie 00:32:18.789 --> 00:32:18.799 align:start position:0% . om nie kardiovaskulêre siekte te voorkom nie 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.269 align:start position:0% . om nie kardiovaskulêre siekte te voorkom nie , <00:32:19.679>jy <00:32:20.559>weet 00:32:21.269 --> 00:32:21.279 align:start position:0% , jy weet 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.750 align:start position:0% , jy weet as <00:32:21.511>ons <00:32:21.743>in <00:32:21.975>beheer <00:32:22.207>was, <00:32:22.439>sou <00:32:22.671>ek <00:32:22.903>probeer <00:32:23.135>om <00:32:23.367>jou <00:32:23.599>te 00:32:23.750 --> 00:32:23.760 align:start position:0% as ons in beheer was, sou ek probeer om jou te 00:32:23.760 --> 00:32:25.909 align:start position:0% as ons in beheer was, sou ek probeer om jou te oortuig <00:32:24.053>dat <00:32:24.346>enige <00:32:24.639>plek <00:32:24.932>waar <00:32:25.225>die <00:32:25.518>studie 00:32:25.909 --> 00:32:25.919 align:start position:0% oortuig dat enige plek waar die studie 00:32:25.919 --> 00:32:29.509 align:start position:0% oortuig dat enige plek waar die studie die <00:32:26.479>resultate <00:32:27.039>van <00:32:27.599>daardie 00:32:29.509 --> 00:32:29.519 align:start position:0% die resultate van daardie 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.509 align:start position:0% die resultate van daardie studie <00:32:29.871>aan <00:32:30.223>dokters <00:32:30.575>voorgelê <00:32:30.927>is, <00:32:31.279>dit 00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:31.519 align:start position:0% studie aan dokters voorgelê is, dit 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.149 align:start position:0% studie aan dokters voorgelê is, dit in <00:32:31.983>groot <00:32:32.447>rooi <00:32:32.911>letters <00:32:33.375>gestempel <00:32:33.839>sou 00:32:34.149 --> 00:32:36.470 align:start position:0% in groot rooi letters gestempel sou 00:32:36.470 --> 00:32:36.480 align:start position:0% 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:37.590 align:start position:0% 00:32:37.590 --> 00:32:37.600 align:start position:0% 00:32:37.600 --> 00:32:39.750 align:start position:0% word. <00:32:37.897>moet <00:32:38.194>dit <00:32:38.491>weet <00:32:38.788>en <00:32:39.085>die <00:32:39.382>dokters <00:32:39.679>is 00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:39.760 align:start position:0% word. moet dit weet en die dokters is 00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:41.990 align:start position:0% word. moet dit weet en die dokters is nogal <00:32:40.260>opgelei <00:32:40.760>hierdie <00:32:41.260>oogklappe <00:32:41.760>word 00:32:41.990 --> 00:32:42.000 align:start position:0% nogal opgelei hierdie oogklappe word 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:44.470 align:start position:0% nogal opgelei hierdie oogklappe word opgesit <00:32:42.250>en <00:32:42.500>hulle <00:32:42.750>is <00:32:43.000>opgelei <00:32:43.250>om <00:32:43.500>soortvan <00:32:43.750>te <00:32:44.000>vergeet 00:32:44.470 --> 00:32:44.480 align:start position:0% opgesit en hulle is opgelei om soortvan te vergeet 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.230 align:start position:0% opgesit en hulle is opgelei om soortvan te vergeet dat <00:32:44.639>dit <00:32:44.798>nie <00:32:44.957>daar <00:32:45.116>is <00:32:45.275>nie, 00:32:46.230 --> 00:32:46.240 align:start position:0% dat dit nie daar is nie, 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:47.509 align:start position:0% dat dit nie daar is nie, dink <00:32:46.559>jy 00:32:47.509 --> 00:32:47.519 align:start position:0% dink jy 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.669 align:start position:0% dink jy so, <00:32:47.770>eerstens, <00:32:48.021>dit <00:32:48.272>is <00:32:48.523>'n <00:32:48.774>klein <00:32:49.025>of <00:32:49.276>groot 00:32:49.669 --> 00:32:49.679 align:start position:0% so, eerstens, dit is 'n klein of groot 00:32:49.679 --> 00:32:51.830 align:start position:0% so, eerstens, dit is 'n klein of groot kanaal <00:32:50.292>na <00:32:50.905>advertensie <00:32:51.518>wat 00:32:51.830 --> 00:32:51.840 align:start position:0% kanaal na advertensie wat 00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:53.990 align:start position:0% kanaal na advertensie wat voor <00:32:51.931>die <00:32:52.022>hand <00:32:52.113>liggend <00:32:52.204>lyk <00:32:52.295>om <00:32:52.386>te <00:32:52.477>sê 00:32:53.990 --> 00:32:54.000 align:start position:0% voor die hand liggend lyk om te sê 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.990 align:start position:0% voor die hand liggend lyk om te sê soos <00:32:54.383>in <00:32:54.766>in <00:32:55.149>afdwing <00:32:55.532>dat <00:32:55.915>dit 00:32:55.990 --> 00:32:56.000 align:start position:0% soos in in afdwing dat dit 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.029 align:start position:0% soos in in afdwing dat dit vergelyk <00:32:56.240>moet <00:32:56.480>word <00:32:56.720>met <00:32:56.960>lewenstylveranderinge 00:32:59.029 --> 00:32:59.039 align:start position:0% vergelyk moet word met lewenstylveranderinge 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.669 align:start position:0% vergelyk moet word met lewenstylveranderinge dink <00:32:59.455>jy <00:32:59.871>advertensies <00:33:00.287>tydperk <00:33:00.703>in <00:33:01.119>die 00:33:01.669 --> 00:33:01.679 align:start position:0% dink jy advertensies tydperk in die 00:33:01.679 --> 00:33:04.070 align:start position:0% dink jy advertensies tydperk in die Verenigde <00:33:02.219>State <00:33:02.759>vir <00:33:03.299>farmaseutiese <00:33:03.839>middels 00:33:04.070 --> 00:33:04.080 align:start position:0% Verenigde State vir farmaseutiese middels 00:33:04.080 --> 00:33:05.830 align:start position:0% Verenigde State vir farmaseutiese middels moet <00:33:04.239>verbied <00:33:04.398>word 00:33:05.830 --> 00:33:05.840 align:start position:0% moet verbied word 00:33:05.840 --> 00:33:07.750 align:start position:0% moet verbied word ek <00:33:06.035>dink <00:33:06.230>dit <00:33:06.425>kan <00:33:06.620>nie <00:33:06.815>verbied <00:33:07.010>word <00:33:07.205>nie <00:33:07.400>so <00:33:07.595>dit 00:33:07.750 --> 00:33:07.760 align:start position:0% ek dink dit kan nie verbied word nie so dit 00:33:07.760 --> 00:33:10.470 align:start position:0% ek dink dit kan nie verbied word nie so dit maak <00:33:07.919>nie <00:33:08.078>saak <00:33:08.237>wat <00:33:08.396>ek <00:33:08.555>dink 00:33:10.470 --> 00:33:10.480 align:start position:0% maak nie saak wat ek dink 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:11.830 align:start position:0% maak nie saak wat ek dink okay 00:33:11.830 --> 00:33:11.840 align:start position:0% okay 00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:13.909 align:start position:0% okay kom <00:33:12.030>ons <00:33:12.220>sê <00:33:12.410>jy <00:33:12.600>was <00:33:12.790>'n <00:33:12.980>diktator <00:33:13.170>en <00:33:13.360>twee 00:33:13.909 --> 00:33:13.919 align:start position:0% kom ons sê jy was 'n diktator en twee 00:33:13.919 --> 00:33:15.909 align:start position:0% kom ons sê jy was 'n diktator en twee hoekom <00:33:14.090>kan <00:33:14.261>hulle <00:33:14.432>nie <00:33:14.603>verban <00:33:14.774>word <00:33:14.945>nie <00:33:15.116>okay 00:33:15.909 --> 00:33:15.919 align:start position:0% hoekom kan hulle nie verban word nie okay 00:33:15.919 --> 00:33:18.630 align:start position:0% hoekom kan hulle nie verban word nie okay uh <00:33:16.132>óf <00:33:16.345>antwoord <00:33:16.558>een <00:33:16.771>van <00:33:16.984>die <00:33:17.197>twee 00:33:18.630 --> 00:33:18.640 align:start position:0% uh óf antwoord een van die twee 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:21.509 align:start position:0% uh óf antwoord een van die twee ek <00:33:19.005>glo <00:33:19.370>ek <00:33:19.735>is <00:33:20.100>vertel <00:33:20.465>deur <00:33:20.830>prokureurs <00:33:21.195>wat 00:33:21.509 --> 00:33:21.519 align:start position:0% ek glo ek is vertel deur prokureurs wat 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:22.710 align:start position:0% ek glo ek is vertel deur prokureurs wat ek <00:33:21.760>vertrou 00:33:22.710 --> 00:33:22.720 align:start position:0% ek vertrou 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.350 align:start position:0% ek vertrou dat <00:33:23.039>die <00:33:23.358>uh <00:33:23.677>vryheid <00:33:23.996>van <00:33:24.315>spraak <00:33:24.634>in <00:33:24.953>die <00:33:25.272>in 00:33:25.350 --> 00:33:25.360 align:start position:0% dat die uh vryheid van spraak in die in 00:33:25.360 --> 00:33:27.269 align:start position:0% dat die uh vryheid van spraak in die in die <00:33:25.840>vs 00:33:27.269 --> 00:33:27.279 align:start position:0% die vs 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.470 align:start position:0% die vs grondwet <00:33:27.479>so <00:33:27.679>is <00:33:27.879>dat <00:33:28.079>jy <00:33:28.279>kan <00:33:28.479>hulle <00:33:28.679>nie <00:33:28.879>verbied <00:33:29.079>nie <00:33:29.279>dat 00:33:30.470 --> 00:33:30.480 align:start position:0% grondwet so is dat jy kan hulle nie verbied nie dat 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.190 align:start position:0% grondwet so is dat jy kan hulle nie verbied nie dat jy <00:33:30.895>sigarette <00:33:31.310>en <00:33:31.725>alkohol <00:33:32.140>kan <00:33:32.555>verbied 00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:33.200 align:start position:0% jy sigarette en alkohol kan verbied 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.590 align:start position:0% jy sigarette en alkohol kan verbied wat <00:33:33.488>geen <00:33:33.776>terapeutiese <00:33:34.064>gebruik <00:33:34.352>het <00:33:34.640>nie, 00:33:35.590 --> 00:33:35.600 align:start position:0% wat geen terapeutiese gebruik het nie, 00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:37.750 align:start position:0% wat geen terapeutiese gebruik het nie, maar <00:33:35.933>dwelms <00:33:36.266>het <00:33:36.599>'n <00:33:36.932>terapeutiese <00:33:37.265>gebruik <00:33:37.598>en 00:33:37.750 --> 00:33:37.760 align:start position:0% maar dwelms het 'n terapeutiese gebruik en 00:33:37.760 --> 00:33:38.549 align:start position:0% maar dwelms het 'n terapeutiese gebruik en hulle 00:33:38.549 --> 00:33:38.559 align:start position:0% hulle 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.950 align:start position:0% hulle uh <00:33:39.119>advertensies <00:33:39.679>daaroor <00:33:40.239>kan <00:33:40.799>nie 00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:40.960 align:start position:0% uh advertensies daaroor kan nie 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.590 align:start position:0% uh advertensies daaroor kan nie verbied <00:33:41.153>word <00:33:41.346>nie, <00:33:41.539>kom <00:33:41.732>ons <00:33:41.925>neem <00:33:42.118>aan <00:33:42.311>dat <00:33:42.504>dit <00:33:42.697>nie <00:33:42.890>kan <00:33:43.083>wees <00:33:43.276>nie, 00:33:43.590 --> 00:33:43.600 align:start position:0% verbied word nie, kom ons neem aan dat dit nie kan wees nie, 00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:46.230 align:start position:0% verbied word nie, kom ons neem aan dat dit nie kan wees nie, want <00:33:43.768>ons <00:33:43.936>weet <00:33:44.104>dit <00:33:44.272>sal <00:33:44.440>nie <00:33:44.608>wees <00:33:44.776>in <00:33:44.944>elk <00:33:45.112>geval 00:33:46.230 --> 00:33:46.240 align:start position:0% want ons weet dit sal nie wees in elk geval 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.549 align:start position:0% want ons weet dit sal nie wees in elk geval um, <00:33:46.455>maar <00:33:46.670>kom <00:33:46.885>ons <00:33:47.100>neem <00:33:47.315>aan <00:33:47.530>hulle <00:33:47.745>kan <00:33:47.960>nie <00:33:48.175>wees <00:33:48.390>dat 00:33:48.549 --> 00:33:48.559 align:start position:0% um, maar kom ons neem aan hulle kan nie wees dat 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:51.190 align:start position:0% um, maar kom ons neem aan hulle kan nie wees dat die <00:33:49.039>en <00:33:49.519>veral <00:33:49.999>ons <00:33:50.479>hoogste <00:33:50.959>hof 00:33:51.190 --> 00:33:51.200 align:start position:0% die en veral ons hoogste hof 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.070 align:start position:0% die en veral ons hoogste hof nou <00:33:51.530>anders <00:33:51.860>is <00:33:52.190>nie, <00:33:52.520>dit <00:33:52.850>sal <00:33:53.180>onwaarskynlik <00:33:53.510>wees <00:33:53.840>om 00:33:54.070 --> 00:33:54.080 align:start position:0% nou anders is nie, dit sal onwaarskynlik wees om 00:33:54.080 --> 00:33:55.830 align:start position:0% nou anders is nie, dit sal onwaarskynlik wees om dit <00:33:54.140>ernstig <00:33:54.200>op <00:33:54.260>te <00:33:54.320>neem, 00:33:55.830 --> 00:33:55.840 align:start position:0% dit ernstig op te neem, 00:33:55.840 --> 00:33:58.070 align:start position:0% dit ernstig op te neem, maar <00:33:56.062>dit <00:33:56.284>is <00:33:56.506>nie <00:33:56.728>die <00:33:56.950>kwessie <00:33:57.172>nie, <00:33:57.394>die <00:33:57.616>kwessie <00:33:57.838>is 00:33:58.070 --> 00:33:58.080 align:start position:0% maar dit is nie die kwessie nie, die kwessie is 00:33:58.080 --> 00:33:59.830 align:start position:0% maar dit is nie die kwessie nie, die kwessie is dat <00:33:58.297>as <00:33:58.514>dwelms <00:33:58.731>ons <00:33:58.948>wil <00:33:59.165>hê <00:33:59.382>as <00:33:59.599>die 00:33:59.830 --> 00:33:59.840 align:start position:0% dat as dwelms ons wil hê as die 00:33:59.840 --> 00:34:01.029 align:start position:0% dat as dwelms ons wil hê as die dwelmmaatskappye <00:34:00.133>wil <00:34:00.426>spandeer <00:34:00.719>hul 00:34:01.029 --> 00:34:01.039 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye wil spandeer hul 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:02.549 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye wil spandeer hul 00:34:02.549 --> 00:34:02.559 align:start position:0% 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.789 align:start position:0% geldadvertensies <00:34:03.440>moet 00:34:04.789 --> 00:34:04.799 align:start position:0% geldadvertensies moet 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:08.389 align:start position:0% geldadvertensies moet hulle <00:34:05.199>onafhanklike <00:34:05.599>ontleding <00:34:05.999>hê <00:34:06.399>van <00:34:06.799>die <00:34:07.199>boodskap 00:34:08.389 --> 00:34:08.399 align:start position:0% hulle onafhanklike ontleding hê van die boodskap 00:34:08.399 --> 00:34:10.869 align:start position:0% hulle onafhanklike ontleding hê van die boodskap wat <00:34:08.730>die <00:34:09.061>kykers <00:34:09.392>oor <00:34:09.723>die <00:34:10.054>dwelm <00:34:10.385>gelaat <00:34:10.716>het 00:34:10.869 --> 00:34:10.879 align:start position:0% wat die kykers oor die dwelm gelaat het 00:34:10.879 --> 00:34:13.829 align:start position:0% wat die kykers oor die dwelm gelaat het , <00:34:11.332>sodat <00:34:11.785>dit <00:34:12.238>realisties <00:34:12.691>is <00:34:13.144>wat <00:34:13.597>die 00:34:13.829 --> 00:34:13.839 align:start position:0% , sodat dit realisties is wat die 00:34:13.839 --> 00:34:16.389 align:start position:0% , sodat dit realisties is wat die kans <00:34:14.087>is <00:34:14.335>dat <00:34:14.583>die <00:34:14.831>dwelm <00:34:15.079>hulle <00:34:15.327>goed <00:34:15.575>sal <00:34:15.823>help <00:34:16.071>met 00:34:16.389 --> 00:34:16.399 align:start position:0% kans is dat die dwelm hulle goed sal help met 00:34:16.399 --> 00:34:19.669 align:start position:0% kans is dat die dwelm hulle goed sal help met intuïtiteit <00:34:16.812>dit <00:34:17.225>is <00:34:17.638>een <00:34:18.051>uit <00:34:18.464>323. <00:34:18.877>322 00:34:19.669 --> 00:34:19.679 align:start position:0% intuïtiteit dit is een uit 323. 322 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.349 align:start position:0% intuïtiteit dit is een uit 323. 322 mense <00:34:19.932>gaan <00:34:20.185>nie <00:34:20.438>trek <00:34:20.691>voordeel <00:34:20.944>uit <00:34:21.197>die 00:34:21.349 --> 00:34:21.359 align:start position:0% mense gaan nie trek voordeel uit die 00:34:21.359 --> 00:34:23.909 align:start position:0% mense gaan nie trek voordeel uit die kardiovaskulêre <00:34:21.892>vermindering <00:34:22.425>risiko <00:34:22.958>vermindering 00:34:23.909 --> 00:34:23.919 align:start position:0% kardiovaskulêre vermindering risiko vermindering 00:34:23.919 --> 00:34:25.030 align:start position:0% kardiovaskulêre vermindering risiko vermindering um 00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:25.040 align:start position:0% um 00:34:25.040 --> 00:34:27.990 align:start position:0% um wat <00:34:25.440>is <00:34:25.840>die <00:34:26.240>ware <00:34:26.640>koste <00:34:27.040>wanneer <00:34:27.440>dwelms 00:34:27.990 --> 00:34:28.000 align:start position:0% wat is die ware koste wanneer dwelms 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.310 align:start position:0% wat is die ware koste wanneer dwelms adverteer <00:34:28.431>dat <00:34:28.862>jy <00:34:29.293>dit <00:34:29.724>dalk <00:34:30.155>kan 00:34:30.310 --> 00:34:30.320 align:start position:0% adverteer dat jy dit dalk kan 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.829 align:start position:0% adverteer dat jy dit dalk kan kry <00:34:30.706>vir <00:34:31.092>'n <00:34:31.478>25 <00:34:31.864>copay <00:34:32.250>of <00:34:32.636>iets 00:34:33.829 --> 00:34:33.839 align:start position:0% kry vir 'n 25 copay of iets 00:34:33.839 --> 00:34:35.829 align:start position:0% kry vir 'n 25 copay of iets tienduisende <00:34:34.199>dollars <00:34:34.559>per <00:34:34.919>jaar <00:34:35.279>dwelm 00:34:35.829 --> 00:34:35.839 align:start position:0% tienduisende dollars per jaar dwelm 00:34:35.839 --> 00:34:39.349 align:start position:0% tienduisende dollars per jaar dwelm vir <00:34:36.415>25 <00:34:36.991>copay <00:34:37.567>wat <00:34:38.143>'n <00:34:38.719>enorme 00:34:39.349 --> 00:34:39.359 align:start position:0% vir 25 copay wat 'n enorme 00:34:39.359 --> 00:34:41.589 align:start position:0% vir 25 copay wat 'n enorme onreg <00:34:39.575>is <00:34:39.791>dit <00:34:40.007>om <00:34:40.223>die <00:34:40.439>wanvoorstelling <00:34:40.655>van <00:34:40.871>die <00:34:41.087>koste <00:34:41.303>van <00:34:41.519>die 00:34:41.589 --> 00:34:41.599 align:start position:0% onreg is dit om die wanvoorstelling van die koste van die 00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.470 align:start position:0% onreg is dit om die wanvoorstelling van die koste van die samelewing <00:34:41.899>wat <00:34:42.199>nie <00:34:42.499>toegelaat <00:34:42.799>behoort <00:34:43.099>te <00:34:43.399>word <00:34:43.699>nie, <00:34:43.999>so 00:34:44.470 --> 00:34:44.480 align:start position:0% samelewing wat nie toegelaat behoort te word nie, so 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:45.990 align:start position:0% samelewing wat nie toegelaat behoort te word nie, so jy 00:34:45.990 --> 00:34:46.000 align:start position:0% jy 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.030 align:start position:0% jy moet <00:34:46.350>dit <00:34:46.700>duidelik <00:34:47.050>aan <00:34:47.400>die <00:34:47.750>kykers <00:34:48.100>moet <00:34:48.450>maak <00:34:48.800>hoeveel 00:34:49.030 --> 00:34:49.040 align:start position:0% moet dit duidelik aan die kykers moet maak hoeveel 00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:50.149 align:start position:0% moet dit duidelik aan die kykers moet maak hoeveel mense <00:34:49.280>gaan <00:34:49.520>baat <00:34:49.760>wat <00:34:50.000>jou 00:34:50.149 --> 00:34:50.159 align:start position:0% mense gaan baat wat jou 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.310 align:start position:0% mense gaan baat wat jou kans <00:34:50.422>is <00:34:50.685>om <00:34:50.948>te <00:34:51.211>bevoordeel <00:34:51.474>hoe <00:34:51.737>vergelyk <00:34:52.000>dit 00:34:52.310 --> 00:34:52.320 align:start position:0% kans is om te bevoordeel hoe vergelyk dit 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.869 align:start position:0% kans is om te bevoordeel hoe vergelyk dit met <00:34:52.820>lewenstylveranderinge <00:34:53.320>of <00:34:53.820>minder <00:34:54.320>duur 00:34:54.869 --> 00:34:54.879 align:start position:0% met lewenstylveranderinge of minder duur 00:34:54.879 --> 00:34:57.030 align:start position:0% met lewenstylveranderinge of minder duur terapieë <00:34:55.153>wat <00:34:55.427>gee <00:34:55.701>jy <00:34:55.975>op <00:34:56.249>as <00:34:56.523>jy <00:34:56.797>gebruik 00:34:57.030 --> 00:34:57.040 align:start position:0% terapieë wat gee jy op as jy gebruik 00:34:57.040 --> 00:34:59.829 align:start position:0% terapieë wat gee jy op as jy gebruik 'n <00:34:57.400>minder <00:34:57.760>duur <00:34:58.120>terapie <00:34:58.480>of <00:34:58.840>wins <00:34:59.200>miskien 00:34:59.829 --> 00:34:59.839 align:start position:0% 'n minder duur terapie of wins miskien 00:34:59.839 --> 00:35:02.230 align:start position:0% 'n minder duur terapie of wins miskien en <00:35:00.223>hoeveel <00:35:00.607>dit <00:35:00.991>kos <00:35:01.375>hoeveel <00:35:01.759>dit 00:35:02.230 --> 00:35:02.240 align:start position:0% en hoeveel dit kos hoeveel dit 00:35:02.240 --> 00:35:03.750 align:start position:0% en hoeveel dit kos hoeveel dit nou <00:35:02.420>kos <00:35:02.600>kan <00:35:02.780>enige <00:35:02.960>kant <00:35:03.140>toe <00:35:03.320>gaan <00:35:03.500>want <00:35:03.680>as 00:35:03.750 --> 00:35:03.760 align:start position:0% nou kos kan enige kant toe gaan want as 00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.630 align:start position:0% nou kos kan enige kant toe gaan want as jy <00:35:04.144>sê <00:35:04.528>humira <00:35:04.912>kos <00:35:05.296>72 <00:35:05.680>000 00:35:06.630 --> 00:35:06.640 align:start position:0% jy sê humira kos 72 000 00:35:06.640 --> 00:35:08.069 align:start position:0% jy sê humira kos 72 000 en <00:35:06.810>dit <00:35:06.980>is <00:35:07.150>nie <00:35:07.320>meer <00:35:07.490>nie <00:35:07.660>effektief <00:35:07.830>as <00:35:08.000>'n 00:35:08.069 --> 00:35:08.079 align:start position:0% en dit is nie meer nie effektief as 'n 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.990 align:start position:0% en dit is nie meer nie effektief as 'n eerstelyn-middel <00:35:08.959>as <00:35:09.839>metotreksaat 00:35:09.990 --> 00:35:10.000 align:start position:0% eerstelyn-middel as metotreksaat 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.230 align:start position:0% eerstelyn-middel as metotreksaat wat <00:35:10.186>480 <00:35:10.372>mense <00:35:10.558>kos, 00:35:12.230 --> 00:35:12.240 align:start position:0% wat 480 mense kos, 00:35:12.240 --> 00:35:13.829 align:start position:0% wat 480 mense kos, kan <00:35:12.463>sê <00:35:12.686>ek <00:35:12.909>wil <00:35:13.132>die <00:35:13.355>duur 00:35:13.829 --> 00:35:13.839 align:start position:0% kan sê ek wil die duur 00:35:13.839 --> 00:35:14.870 align:start position:0% kan sê ek wil die duur dwelm hê, 00:35:14.870 --> 00:35:14.880 align:start position:0% dwelm hê, 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.550 align:start position:0% dwelm hê, want <00:35:15.230>ek <00:35:15.580>kan <00:35:15.930>dit <00:35:16.280>kry <00:35:16.630>vir <00:35:16.980>25 <00:35:17.330>kopieë, <00:35:17.680>so 00:35:18.550 --> 00:35:18.560 align:start position:0% want ek kan dit kry vir 25 kopieë, so 00:35:18.560 --> 00:35:20.390 align:start position:0% want ek kan dit kry vir 25 kopieë, so jy <00:35:19.359>sal 00:35:20.390 --> 00:35:20.400 align:start position:0% jy sal 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.150 align:start position:0% jy sal dit <00:35:20.605>'n <00:35:20.810>bietjie <00:35:21.015>moet <00:35:21.220>temper, <00:35:21.425>o <00:35:21.630>jy <00:35:21.835>bedoel 00:35:22.150 --> 00:35:22.160 align:start position:0% dit 'n bietjie moet temper, o jy bedoel 00:35:22.160 --> 00:35:24.230 align:start position:0% dit 'n bietjie moet temper, o jy bedoel mense <00:35:22.480>is <00:35:22.800>so 00:35:24.230 --> 00:35:24.240 align:start position:0% mense is so 00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:26.390 align:start position:0% mense is so hulle <00:35:24.453>doen' <00:35:24.666>nie <00:35:24.879>omgee <00:35:25.092>hulle <00:35:25.305>gee <00:35:25.518>nie <00:35:25.731>om <00:35:25.944>nie <00:35:26.157>hul 00:35:26.390 --> 00:35:26.400 align:start position:0% hulle doen' nie omgee hulle gee nie om nie hul 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.150 align:start position:0% hulle doen' nie omgee hulle gee nie om nie hul versekering <00:35:26.680>gaan <00:35:26.960>dit <00:35:27.240>dek <00:35:27.520>en 00:35:28.150 --> 00:35:28.160 align:start position:0% versekering gaan dit dek en 00:35:28.160 --> 00:35:30.550 align:start position:0% versekering gaan dit dek en dit <00:35:28.440>is <00:35:28.720>'n <00:35:29.000>25 <00:35:29.280>copay <00:35:29.560>maar <00:35:29.840>ons <00:35:30.120>kan <00:35:30.400>uitvind 00:35:30.550 --> 00:35:30.560 align:start position:0% dit is 'n 25 copay maar ons kan uitvind 00:35:30.560 --> 00:35:32.630 align:start position:0% dit is 'n 25 copay maar ons kan uitvind hoe <00:35:30.840>om <00:35:31.120>dit <00:35:31.400>te <00:35:31.680>hanteer <00:35:31.960>die <00:35:32.240>hoofpunt 00:35:32.630 --> 00:35:32.640 align:start position:0% hoe om dit te hanteer die hoofpunt 00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:34.470 align:start position:0% hoe om dit te hanteer die hoofpunt is <00:35:33.280>dat 00:35:34.470 --> 00:35:34.480 align:start position:0% is dat 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.310 align:start position:0% is dat as <00:35:34.900>ons <00:35:35.320>aanvaar <00:35:35.740>dat <00:35:36.160>advertensies 00:35:36.310 --> 00:35:36.320 align:start position:0% as ons aanvaar dat advertensies 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:37.990 align:start position:0% as ons aanvaar dat advertensies gaan <00:35:36.560>aanhou <00:35:36.800>en <00:35:37.040>hulle <00:35:37.280>is 00:35:37.990 --> 00:35:38.000 align:start position:0% gaan aanhou en hulle is 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:38.790 align:start position:0% gaan aanhou en hulle is um 00:35:38.790 --> 00:35:38.800 align:start position:0% um 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.670 align:start position:0% um ons <00:35:39.040>kan 00:35:41.670 --> 00:35:41.680 align:start position:0% 00:35:41.680 --> 00:35:42.870 align:start position:0% vereis 00:35:42.870 --> 00:35:42.880 align:start position:0% vereis 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.829 align:start position:0% vereis dat <00:35:43.559>daar <00:35:44.238>buite-evaluasie <00:35:44.917>van <00:35:45.596>die 00:35:45.829 --> 00:35:45.839 align:start position:0% dat daar buite-evaluasie van die 00:35:45.839 --> 00:35:48.790 align:start position:0% dat daar buite-evaluasie van die boodskap <00:35:46.335>is <00:35:46.831>wat <00:35:47.327>redelike <00:35:47.823>onbevooroordeelde <00:35:48.319>kykers 00:35:48.790 --> 00:35:48.800 align:start position:0% boodskap is wat redelike onbevooroordeelde kykers 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.870 align:start position:0% boodskap is wat redelike onbevooroordeelde kykers van <00:35:49.146>die <00:35:49.492>advertensies <00:35:49.838>wegneem 00:35:50.870 --> 00:35:50.880 align:start position:0% van die advertensies wegneem 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.270 align:start position:0% van die advertensies wegneem en <00:35:51.280>die <00:35:51.680>advertensies <00:35:52.080>sal <00:35:52.480>die <00:35:52.880>waarheid 00:35:53.270 --> 00:35:53.280 align:start position:0% en die advertensies sal die waarheid 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.670 align:start position:0% en die advertensies sal die waarheid oor <00:35:53.359>die <00:35:53.438>dwelm <00:35:53.517>moet <00:35:53.596>vertel 00:35:55.670 --> 00:35:55.680 align:start position:0% oor die dwelm moet vertel 00:35:55.680 --> 00:35:59.670 align:start position:0% oor die dwelm moet vertel en <00:35:56.599>die <00:35:57.518>waarheid <00:35:58.437>moet <00:35:59.356>soos 00:35:59.670 --> 00:35:59.680 align:start position:0% en die waarheid moet soos 00:35:59.680 --> 00:36:02.150 align:start position:0% en die waarheid moet soos subwaarheid-relings <00:36:00.026>hê <00:36:00.372>wat <00:36:00.718>beteken <00:36:01.064>soos <00:36:01.410>die <00:36:01.756>koste 00:36:02.150 --> 00:36:02.160 align:start position:0% subwaarheid-relings hê wat beteken soos die koste 00:36:02.160 --> 00:36:03.589 align:start position:0% subwaarheid-relings hê wat beteken soos die koste waaroor <00:36:02.346>ons <00:36:02.532>gepraat <00:36:02.718>het 00:36:03.589 --> 00:36:03.599 align:start position:0% waaroor ons gepraat het 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.230 align:start position:0% waaroor ons gepraat het die 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Die 00:39:41.589 --> 00:39:41.599 align:start position:0% Die 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.150 align:start position:0% Die kundiges <00:39:41.855>wat <00:39:42.111>die <00:39:42.367>kliniese <00:39:42.623>proewe <00:39:42.879>skryf 00:39:44.150 --> 00:39:44.160 align:start position:0% kundiges wat die kliniese proewe skryf 00:39:44.160 --> 00:39:45.670 align:start position:0% kundiges wat die kliniese proewe skryf maak 00:39:45.670 --> 00:39:45.680 align:start position:0% maak 00:39:45.680 --> 00:39:47.349 align:start position:0% maak byna <00:39:45.879>heeltemal <00:39:46.078>staat 00:39:47.349 --> 00:39:47.359 align:start position:0% byna heeltemal staat 00:39:47.359 --> 00:39:48.390 align:start position:0% byna heeltemal staat op <00:39:47.520>die 00:39:48.390 --> 00:39:48.400 align:start position:0% op die 00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.550 align:start position:0% op die publikasies <00:39:48.920>wat <00:39:49.440>die <00:39:49.960>resultate <00:39:50.480>van 00:39:50.550 --> 00:39:50.560 align:start position:0% publikasies wat die resultate van 00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:52.390 align:start position:0% publikasies wat die resultate van die <00:39:50.896>kliniese <00:39:51.232>proewe <00:39:51.568>aanbied <00:39:51.904>wat <00:39:52.240>eweknie- 00:39:52.390 --> 00:39:52.400 align:start position:0% die kliniese proewe aanbied wat eweknie- 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.230 align:start position:0% die kliniese proewe aanbied wat eweknie- geëvalueer <00:39:52.639>is, <00:39:52.878>maar <00:39:53.117>die <00:39:53.356>portuurbeoordelaars <00:39:53.595>het <00:39:53.834>nie 00:39:54.230 --> 00:39:54.240 align:start position:0% geëvalueer is, maar die portuurbeoordelaars het nie 00:39:54.240 --> 00:39:57.510 align:start position:0% geëvalueer is, maar die portuurbeoordelaars het nie gehad <00:39:54.620>nie <00:39:55.000>toegang <00:39:55.380>tot <00:39:55.760>die <00:39:56.140>data, <00:39:56.520>sodat <00:39:56.900>ons <00:39:57.280>'n 00:39:57.510 --> 00:39:57.520 align:start position:0% gehad nie toegang tot die data, sodat ons 'n 00:39:57.520 --> 00:40:01.030 align:start position:0% gehad nie toegang tot die data, sodat ons 'n stelsel <00:39:57.790>van <00:39:58.060>die <00:39:58.330>hoogste <00:39:58.600>vlak <00:39:58.870>van <00:39:59.140>bewyse <00:39:59.410>het <00:39:59.680>gevolg 00:40:01.030 --> 00:40:01.040 align:start position:0% stelsel van die hoogste vlak van bewyse het gevolg 00:40:01.040 --> 00:40:03.030 align:start position:0% stelsel van die hoogste vlak van bewyse het gevolg dat <00:40:01.653>dokters <00:40:02.266>oor <00:40:02.879>en 00:40:03.030 --> 00:40:03.040 align:start position:0% dat dokters oor en 00:40:03.040 --> 00:40:05.190 align:start position:0% dat dokters oor en oor <00:40:03.260>opgelei <00:40:03.480>is <00:40:03.700>om <00:40:03.920>daarop <00:40:04.140>staat <00:40:04.360>te <00:40:04.580>maak <00:40:04.800>om 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:05.200 align:start position:0% oor opgelei is om daarop staat te maak om 00:40:05.200 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position:0% hartaanvalle beroertes 00:41:14.240 --> 00:41:16.790 align:start position:0% hartaanvalle beroertes en <00:41:14.640>bloedklonte <00:41:15.040>ernstige <00:41:15.440>bloed <00:41:15.840>verdubbel <00:41:16.240>klonte <00:41:16.640>dit 00:41:16.790 --> 00:41:16.800 align:start position:0% en bloedklonte ernstige bloed verdubbel klonte dit 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:18.950 align:start position:0% en bloedklonte ernstige bloed verdubbel klonte dit het <00:41:17.062>toe <00:41:17.324>getrek, <00:41:17.586>maar <00:41:17.848>daar <00:41:18.110>was <00:41:18.372>'n <00:41:18.634>studie 00:41:18.950 --> 00:41:18.960 align:start position:0% het toe getrek, maar daar was 'n studie 00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.430 align:start position:0% het toe getrek, maar daar was 'n studie wat <00:41:19.653>'n <00:41:20.346>groter <00:41:21.039>studie 00:41:21.430 --> 00:41:21.440 align:start position:0% wat 'n groter studie 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.190 align:start position:0% wat 'n groter studie wat 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position:0% nou in daardie studie wat gepubliseer is in 00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:49.589 align:start position:0% nou in daardie studie wat gepubliseer is in die <00:41:48.319>New <00:41:48.559>England-joernaal 00:41:49.589 --> 00:41:49.599 align:start position:0% die New England-joernaal 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.510 align:start position:0% die New England-joernaal wat <00:41:49.812>nooit <00:41:50.025>reggestel <00:41:50.238>is 00:41:51.510 --> 00:41:51.520 align:start position:0% wat nooit reggestel is 00:41:51.520 --> 00:41:53.670 align:start position:0% wat nooit reggestel is nie, <00:41:51.780>is <00:41:52.040>dit <00:41:52.300>'n <00:41:52.560>bietjie 00:41:53.670 --> 00:41:53.680 align:start position:0% nie, is dit 'n bietjie 00:41:53.680 --> 00:41:55.190 align:start position:0% nie, is dit 'n bietjie gewysig 00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:55.200 align:start position:0% gewysig 00:41:55.200 --> 00:41:56.950 align:start position:0% gewysig 15 <00:41:55.428>maande <00:41:55.656>nadat 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studie het gesê <00:42:10.860>dat <00:42:11.240>hulle <00:42:11.620>nie <00:42:12.000>die 00:42:12.309 --> 00:42:12.319 align:start position:0% gesê dat hulle nie die 00:42:12.319 --> 00:42:13.829 align:start position:0% gesê dat hulle nie die FDA <00:42:12.599>gaan <00:42:12.879>doen 00:42:13.829 --> 00:42:13.839 align:start position:0% FDA gaan doen 00:42:13.839 --> 00:42:15.430 align:start position:0% FDA gaan doen nie <00:42:14.179>ontleding <00:42:14.519>sonder <00:42:14.859>die <00:42:15.199>drie 00:42:15.430 --> 00:42:15.440 align:start position:0% nie ontleding sonder die drie 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:16.870 align:start position:0% nie ontleding sonder die drie hartaanvalle <00:42:16.000>daarin 00:42:16.870 --> 00:42:16.880 align:start position:0% hartaanvalle daarin 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.990 align:start position:0% hartaanvalle daarin en <00:42:17.280>die <00:42:17.680>belangrike <00:42:18.080>deel <00:42:18.480>van <00:42:18.880>hierdie <00:42:19.280>storie <00:42:19.680>is 00:42:19.990 --> 00:42:20.000 align:start position:0% en die belangrike deel van hierdie storie is 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.470 align:start position:0% en die belangrike deel van hierdie storie is dat <00:42:20.500>daar <00:42:21.000>12 <00:42:21.500>skrywers <00:42:22.000>op 00:42:22.470 --> 00:42:22.480 align:start position:0% dat daar 12 skrywers op 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.309 align:start position:0% dat daar 12 skrywers op daardie <00:42:22.666>studie <00:42:22.852>in <00:42:23.038>die <00:42:23.224>new <00:42:23.410>england-joernaal <00:42:23.596>gelys 00:42:24.309 --> 00:42:24.319 align:start position:0% daardie studie in die new england-joernaal gelys 00:42:24.319 --> 00:42:26.790 align:start position:0% daardie studie in die new england-joernaal gelys was, <00:42:24.639>twee <00:42:24.959>was <00:42:25.279>merck-werknemers <00:42:25.599>wat <00:42:25.919>hulle <00:42:26.239>geweet <00:42:26.559>van 00:42:26.790 --> 00:42:26.800 align:start position:0% was, twee was merck-werknemers wat hulle geweet van 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:28.150 align:start position:0% was, twee was merck-werknemers wat hulle geweet van die <00:42:27.173>drie <00:42:27.546>hartaanvalle <00:42:27.919>wat 00:42:28.150 --> 00:42:28.160 align:start position:0% die drie hartaanvalle wat 00:42:28.160 --> 00:42:29.510 align:start position:0% die drie hartaanvalle wat weggelaat is 00:42:29.510 --> 00:42:29.520 align:start position:0% weggelaat is 00:42:29.520 --> 00:42:30.870 align:start position:0% weggelaat is die <00:42:30.000>ander 00:42:30.870 --> 00:42:30.880 align:start position:0% die ander 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:31.829 align:start position:0% die ander 10 00:42:31.829 --> 00:42:31.839 align:start position:0% 10 00:42:31.839 --> 00:42:34.390 align:start position:0% 10 skrywers <00:42:32.345>die <00:42:32.851>akademiese <00:42:33.357>skrywers 00:42:34.390 --> 00:42:34.400 align:start position:0% skrywers die akademiese skrywers 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.230 align:start 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'n verskoning gehad dit is ingewikkeld en die <00:42:43.112>fda <00:42:43.264>het <00:42:43.416>dit <00:42:43.568>nie <00:42:43.720>aanvaar <00:42:43.872>nie <00:42:44.024>so <00:42:44.176>daar <00:42:44.328>is <00:42:44.480>geen 00:42:44.630 --> 00:42:44.640 align:start position:0% die fda het dit nie aanvaar nie so daar is geen 00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:46.630 align:start position:0% die fda het dit nie aanvaar nie so daar is geen rede <00:42:44.800>om <00:42:44.960>daarop <00:42:45.120>in <00:42:45.280>te <00:42:45.440>gaan, 00:42:46.630 --> 00:42:46.640 align:start position:0% rede om daarop in te gaan, 00:42:46.640 --> 00:42:48.230 align:start position:0% rede om daarop in te gaan, maar <00:42:46.927>merck <00:42:47.214>het <00:42:47.501>net <00:42:47.788>die <00:42:48.075>drie 00:42:48.230 --> 00:42:48.240 align:start position:0% maar merck het net die drie 00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:49.990 align:start position:0% maar merck het net die drie hartaanvalle <00:42:48.576>en 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position:0% gevolgtrekking wat merck kon maak, was <00:43:03.360>dat <00:43:04.160>vioxx 00:43:04.550 --> 00:43:04.560 align:start position:0% was dat vioxx 00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:06.309 align:start position:0% was dat vioxx die <00:43:04.693>risiko <00:43:04.826>van <00:43:04.959>hartaanval <00:43:05.092>aansienlik <00:43:05.225>verhoog <00:43:05.358>het 00:43:06.309 --> 00:43:06.319 align:start position:0% die risiko van hartaanval aansienlik verhoog het 00:43:06.319 --> 00:43:09.589 align:start position:0% die risiko van hartaanval aansienlik verhoog het en <00:43:06.735>hulle <00:43:07.151>het <00:43:07.567>hul <00:43:07.983>eindpunt <00:43:08.399>afgekort 00:43:09.589 --> 00:43:09.599 align:start position:0% en hulle het hul eindpunt afgekort 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:11.829 align:start position:0% en hulle het hul eindpunt afgekort van <00:43:10.265>hartaanvalle <00:43:10.931>beroertes <00:43:11.597>en 00:43:11.829 --> 00:43:11.839 align:start position:0% van hartaanvalle beroertes en 00:43:11.839 --> 00:43:14.630 align:start position:0% van hartaanvalle beroertes en bloedklonte <00:43:12.319>na <00:43:12.799>net <00:43:13.279>hartaanvalle <00:43:13.759>ja 00:43:14.630 --> 00:43:14.640 align:start position:0% bloedklonte na net hartaanvalle ja 00:43:14.640 --> 00:43:17.190 align:start position:0% bloedklonte na net hartaanvalle ja so <00:43:14.971>dit <00:43:15.302>is <00:43:15.633>miskien <00:43:15.964>in <00:43:16.295>hul <00:43:16.626>gedagtes <00:43:16.957>hulle 00:43:17.190 --> 00:43:17.200 align:start position:0% so dit is miskien in hul gedagtes hulle 00:43:17.200 --> 00:43:18.630 align:start position:0% so dit is miskien in hul gedagtes hulle speel <00:43:17.413>ook <00:43:17.626>volgens <00:43:17.839>die <00:43:18.052>reëls <00:43:18.265>want <00:43:18.478>van 00:43:18.630 --> 00:43:18.640 align:start position:0% speel ook volgens die reëls want van 00:43:18.640 --> 00:43:20.230 align:start position:0% speel ook volgens die reëls want van een 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<00:43:25.657>waar <00:43:25.920>nie 00:43:26.710 --> 00:43:26.720 align:start position:0% my onderbreek nie nee dis nie waar nie 00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:28.069 align:start position:0% my onderbreek nie nee dis nie waar nie um 00:43:28.069 --> 00:43:28.079 align:start position:0% um 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.349 align:start position:0% um die <00:43:28.585>studie <00:43:29.091>is <00:43:29.597>voltooi <00:43:30.103>die <00:43:30.609>blinde <00:43:31.115>was 00:43:31.349 --> 00:43:31.359 align:start position:0% die studie is voltooi die blinde was 00:43:31.359 --> 00:43:34.390 align:start position:0% die studie is voltooi die blinde was gebreek <00:43:31.519>wat <00:43:31.679>beteken <00:43:31.839>dat <00:43:31.999>hulle <00:43:32.159>na <00:43:32.319>die <00:43:32.479>data <00:43:32.639>gekyk <00:43:32.799>het 00:43:34.390 --> 00:43:34.400 align:start position:0% gebreek wat beteken dat hulle na die data gekyk het 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.790 align:start position:0% gebreek wat beteken dat hulle na die data gekyk het in <00:43:34.848>Maart <00:43:35.296>2000 <00:43:35.744>die <00:43:36.192>artikel <00:43:36.640>is 00:43:36.790 --> 00:43:36.800 align:start position:0% in Maart 2000 die artikel is 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.150 align:start position:0% in Maart 2000 die artikel is in <00:43:36.982>November <00:43:37.164>2000 <00:43:37.346>in <00:43:37.528>die <00:43:37.710>New <00:43:37.892>England-joernaal <00:43:38.074>gepubliseer 00:43:38.150 --> 00:43:38.160 align:start position:0% in November 2000 in die New England-joernaal gepubliseer 00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:41.829 align:start position:0% in November 2000 in die New England-joernaal gepubliseer . <00:43:38.864>In <00:43:39.568>Maart <00:43:40.272>2000 <00:43:40.976>was <00:43:41.680>daar 00:43:41.829 --> 00:43:41.839 align:start position:0% . 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--> 00:44:03.520 align:start position:0% die dwelm sal goed doen 00:44:03.520 --> 00:44:08.630 align:start position:0% die dwelm sal goed doen en <00:44:03.740>ons <00:44:03.960>sal <00:44:04.180>goed <00:44:04.400>doen, 00:44:08.630 --> 00:44:08.640 align:start position:0% 00:44:08.640 --> 00:44:11.030 align:start position:0% maar <00:44:08.960>die <00:44:09.280>verwydering <00:44:09.600>van <00:44:09.920>die <00:44:10.240>drie <00:44:10.560>hartaanvalle <00:44:10.880>hoe 00:44:11.030 --> 00:44:11.040 align:start position:0% maar die verwydering van die drie hartaanvalle hoe 00:44:11.040 --> 00:44:14.710 align:start position:0% maar die verwydering van die drie hartaanvalle hoe gebeur <00:44:11.546>dit <00:44:12.052>soos <00:44:12.558>uh 00:44:14.710 --> 00:44:14.720 align:start position:0% gebeur dit soos uh 00:44:14.720 --> 00:44:17.190 align:start position:0% gebeur dit soos uh wie <00:44:15.152>moet <00:44:15.584>hulself <00:44:16.016>oortuig <00:44:16.448>is <00:44:16.880>hierdie 00:44:17.190 --> 00:44:17.200 align:start position:0% wie moet hulself oortuig is hierdie 00:44:17.200 --> 00:44:18.870 align:start position:0% wie moet hulself oortuig is hierdie pure <00:44:17.440>kwaadwilligheid 00:44:18.870 --> 00:44:18.880 align:start position:0% pure kwaadwilligheid 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:19.670 align:start position:0% pure kwaadwilligheid um 00:44:19.670 --> 00:44:19.680 align:start position:0% um 00:44:19.680 --> 00:44:21.990 align:start position:0% um jy <00:44:19.884>het <00:44:20.088>om <00:44:20.292>die <00:44:20.496>regter <00:44:20.700>daarvan <00:44:20.904>te <00:44:21.108>wees, <00:44:21.312>maar <00:44:21.516>die 00:44:21.990 --> 00:44:22.000 align:start position:0% jy het om die regter daarvan te wees, maar die 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.069 align:start position:0% jy het om die regter daarvan te wees, maar die persoon <00:44:22.280>wat <00:44:22.560>in <00:44:22.840>beheer <00:44:23.120>was <00:44:23.400>van <00:44:23.680>die 00:44:24.069 --> 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position:0% wat onderteken is daardie 00:44:51.520 --> 00:44:53.829 align:start position:0% wat onderteken is daardie kontrak 00:44:53.829 --> 00:44:53.839 align:start position:0% kontrak 00:44:53.839 --> 00:44:56.710 align:start position:0% kontrak is <00:44:54.292>binne <00:44:54.745>twee <00:44:55.198>weke <00:44:55.651>na <00:44:56.104>die <00:44:56.557>besluit 00:44:56.710 --> 00:44:56.720 align:start position:0% is binne twee weke na die besluit 00:44:56.720 --> 00:44:58.069 align:start position:0% is binne twee weke na die besluit onderteken n 00:44:58.069 --> 00:44:58.079 align:start position:0% onderteken n 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.790 align:start position:0% onderteken n om <00:44:58.345>op <00:44:58.611>te <00:44:58.877>hou <00:44:59.143>om <00:44:59.409>hartaanvalle <00:44:59.675>te <00:44:59.941>tel, <00:45:00.207>sal <00:45:00.473>ek 00:45:00.790 --> 00:45:00.800 align:start position:0% om op te hou om hartaanvalle te tel, sal ek 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.589 align:start position:0% om op te hou om hartaanvalle te tel, sal ek nie <00:45:01.134>daardie <00:45:01.468>man <00:45:01.802>of <00:45:02.136>vrou <00:45:02.470>verstaan <00:45:02.804>wat <00:45:03.138>ek <00:45:03.472>wil <00:45:03.806>hê <00:45:04.140>ek <00:45:04.474>wi 00:45:05.589 --> 00:45:05.599 align:start position:0% nie daardie man of vrou verstaan wat ek wil hê ek wi 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.750 align:start position:0% nie daardie man of vrou verstaan wat ek wil hê ek wi hê <00:45:05.830>nie, <00:45:06.061>dit <00:45:06.292>is <00:45:06.523>die <00:45:06.754>uh <00:45:06.985>ek <00:45:07.216>het <00:45:07.447>al <00:45:07.678>baie 00:45:07.750 --> 00:45:07.760 align:start position:0% hê nie, dit is die uh ek het al baie 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.550 align:start position:0% hê nie, dit is die uh ek het al baie or <00:45:08.256>nazi-Duitsland <00:45:08.752>gelees <00:45:09.248>en <00:45:09.744>en <00:45:10.240>dink 00:45:10.550 --> 00:45:10.560 align:start position:0% or nazi-Duitsland 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<00:45:29.359>psigopatiese 00:45:30.069 --> 00:45:30.079 align:start position:0% waar dit net 'n suiwer psigopatiese 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:31.190 align:start position:0% waar dit net 'n suiwer psigopatiese persoon is 00:45:31.190 --> 00:45:31.200 align:start position:0% persoon is 00:45:31.200 --> 00:45:33.589 align:start position:0% persoon is dat <00:45:31.440>daar <00:45:31.680>net <00:45:31.920>geen <00:45:32.160>momentum 00:45:33.589 --> 00:45:33.599 align:start position:0% dat daar net geen momentum 00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.510 align:start position:0% dat daar net geen momentum geskep <00:45:33.767>word <00:45:33.935>deur <00:45:34.103>die <00:45:34.271>speletjie <00:45:34.439>soos <00:45:34.607>jy <00:45:34.775>genoem <00:45:34.943>het <00:45:35.111>nie, 00:45:35.510 --> 00:45:35.520 align:start position:0% geskep word deur die speletjie soos jy genoem het nie, 00:45:35.520 --> 00:45:36.550 align:start position:0% geskep word deur die speletjie soos jy genoem het nie, 00:45:36.550 --> 00:45:36.560 align:start position:0% 00:45:36.560 --> 00:45:37.829 align:start position:0% ja <00:45:36.800>en 00:45:37.829 --> 00:45:37.839 align:start position:0% ja en 00:45:37.839 --> 00:45:40.950 align:start position:0% ja en dit <00:45:38.049>verg <00:45:38.259>dus <00:45:38.469>om <00:45:38.679>die <00:45:38.889>momentum <00:45:39.099>om <00:45:39.309>te <00:45:39.519>keer 00:45:40.950 --> 00:45:40.960 align:start position:0% dit verg dus om die momentum om te keer 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:42.550 align:start position:0% dit verg dus om die momentum om te keer binne <00:45:41.520>die 00:45:42.550 --> 00:45:42.560 align:start position:0% binne die 00:45:42.560 --> 00:45:44.150 align:start position:0% binne die maatskappy <00:45:42.693>dink <00:45:42.826>ek <00:45:42.959>vereis 00:45:44.150 --> 00:45:44.160 align:start position:0% maatskappy dink ek vereis 00:45:44.160 --> 00:45:48.150 align:start position:0% maatskappy dink ek vereis baie <00:45:44.582>klein <00:45:45.004>dade <00:45:45.426>van <00:45:45.848>heldhaftigheid <00:45:46.270>nie <00:45:46.692>reusagtig <00:45:47.114>nie 00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:48.160 align:start position:0% baie klein dade van heldhaftigheid nie reusagtig nie 00:45:48.160 --> 00:45:49.750 align:start position:0% baie klein dade van heldhaftigheid nie reusagtig nie ek <00:45:48.540>gaan <00:45:48.920>weg <00:45:49.300>en <00:45:49.680>'n 00:45:49.750 --> 00:45:49.760 align:start position:0% ek gaan weg en 'n 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.750 align:start position:0% ek gaan weg en 'n fluitjieblaser <00:45:50.040>word <00:45:50.320>en <00:45:50.600>'n <00:45:50.880>boek <00:45:51.160>daaroor <00:45:51.440>publiseer 00:45:51.750 --> 00:45:51.760 align:start position:0% fluitjieblaser word en 'n boek daaroor publiseer 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:52.390 align:start position:0% fluitjieblaser word en 'n boek daaroor publiseer 00:45:52.390 --> 00:45:52.400 align:start position:0% 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:53.670 align:start position:0% maar <00:45:52.640>klein 00:45:53.670 --> 00:45:53.680 align:start position:0% maar klein 00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:56.950 align:start position:0% maar klein stil <00:45:54.260>dade <00:45:54.840>van <00:45:55.420>druk <00:45:56.000>hierteen 00:45:56.950 --> 00:45:56.960 align:start position:0% stil dade van druk hierteen 00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.510 align:start position:0% stil dade van druk hierteen soos <00:45:57.424>wat <00:45:57.888>doen <00:45:58.352>ons <00:45:58.816>hier, <00:45:59.280>ons 00:45:59.510 --> 00:45:59.520 align:start position:0% soos wat doen ons hier, ons 00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:01.270 align:start position:0% soos wat doen ons hier, ons probeer <00:45:59.748>mense <00:45:59.976>help <00:46:00.204>is <00:46:00.432>dit <00:46:00.660>die <00:46:00.888>regte <00:46:01.116>ding 00:46:01.270 --> 00:46:01.280 align:start position:0% probeer mense help is dit die regte ding 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:02.950 align:start position:0% probeer mense help is dit die regte ding om <00:46:01.451>te <00:46:01.622>doen <00:46:01.793>kyk <00:46:01.964>voortdurend <00:46:02.135>in <00:46:02.306>die <00:46:02.477>spieël 00:46:02.950 --> 00:46:02.960 align:start position:0% om te doen kyk voortdurend in die spieël 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.109 align:start position:0% om te doen kyk voortdurend in die spieël vra <00:46:03.129>is <00:46:03.298>dit <00:46:03.467>die <00:46:03.636>regte <00:46:03.805>ding <00:46:03.974>om <00:46:04.143>te <00:46:04.312>doen 00:46:05.109 --> 00:46:05.119 align:start position:0% vra is dit die regte ding om te doen 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.109 align:start position:0% vra is dit die regte ding om te doen ek <00:46:05.313>bedoel <00:46:05.507>dis <00:46:05.701>hoe <00:46:05.895>dit <00:46:06.089>is <00:46:06.283>wat <00:46:06.477>integriteit 00:46:07.109 --> 00:46:07.119 align:start position:0% ek bedoel dis hoe dit is wat integriteit 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.630 align:start position:0% ek bedoel dis hoe dit is wat integriteit is 00:46:08.630 --> 00:46:08.640 align:start position:0% is 00:46:08.640 --> 00:46:11.109 align:start position:0% is om <00:46:08.992>die <00:46:09.344>druk <00:46:09.696>waaronder <00:46:10.048>jy <00:46:10.400>is 00:46:11.109 --> 00:46:11.119 align:start position:0% om die druk waaronder jy is 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.190 align:start position:0% om die druk waaronder jy is te <00:46:11.239>erken <00:46:11.359>en <00:46:11.479>die <00:46:11.599>jw.org <00:46:11.719>af <00:46:11.839>nog <00:46:11.959>steeds <00:46:12.079>in <00:46:12.199>staat <00:46:12.319>wees <00:46:12.439>om <00:46:12.559>uit <00:46:12.679>te <00:46:12.799>zoem <00:46:12.919>en <00:46:13.039>te 00:46:13.190 --> 00:46:13.200 align:start position:0% te erken en die jw.org af nog steeds in staat wees om uit te zoem en te 00:46:13.200 --> 00:46:16.550 align:start position:0% te erken en die jw.org af nog steeds in staat wees om uit te zoem en te dink <00:46:13.368>wat <00:46:13.536>is <00:46:13.704>die <00:46:13.872>regte <00:46:14.040>ding <00:46:14.208>om <00:46:14.376>hier <00:46:14.544>te <00:46:14.712>doen, 00:46:16.550 --> 00:46:16.560 align:start position:0% dink wat is die regte ding om hier te doen, 00:46:16.560 --> 00:46:19.750 align:start position:0% dink wat is die regte ding om hier te doen, maar <00:46:16.773>die <00:46:16.986>data <00:46:17.199>wat <00:46:17.412>die <00:46:17.625>data <00:46:17.838>versteek 00:46:19.750 --> 00:46:19.760 align:start position:0% maar die data wat die data versteek 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.550 align:start position:0% maar die data wat die data versteek maak <00:46:20.010>dit <00:46:20.260>te <00:46:20.510>maklik <00:46:20.760>om <00:46:21.010>in <00:46:21.260>onkunde <00:46:21.510>te <00:46:21.760>leef, 00:46:22.550 --> 00:46:22.560 align:start position:0% maak dit te maklik om in onkunde te leef, 00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:24.550 align:start position:0% maak dit te maklik om in onkunde te leef, so <00:46:22.911>soos <00:46:23.262>in <00:46:23.613>dié <00:46:23.964>binne <00:46:24.315>daardie 00:46:24.550 --> 00:46:24.560 align:start position:0% so soos in dié binne daardie 00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:29.430 align:start position:0% so soos in dié binne daardie maatskappye, 00:46:29.430 --> 00:46:29.440 align:start position:0% 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.750 align:start position:0% so <00:46:29.720>jou <00:46:30.000>idee 00:46:31.750 --> 00:46:31.760 align:start position:0% so jou idee 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.630 align:start position:0% so jou idee is <00:46:32.000>dat <00:46:32.240>die <00:46:32.480>resensent <00:46:32.720>die <00:46:32.960>data <00:46:33.200>moet <00:46:33.440>sien 00:46:34.630 --> 00:46:34.640 align:start position:0% is dat die resensent die data moet sien 00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:37.430 align:start position:0% is dat die resensent die data moet sien wat <00:46:34.896>dit <00:46:35.152>is <00:46:35.408>een <00:46:35.664>stap, <00:46:35.920>so <00:46:36.176>om <00:46:36.432>selfs <00:46:36.688>terug <00:46:36.944>te <00:46:37.200>druk 00:46:37.430 --> 00:46:37.440 align:start position:0% wat dit is een stap, so om selfs terug te druk 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.030 align:start position:0% wat dit is een stap, so om selfs terug te druk op <00:46:37.759>daardie <00:46:38.078>idee 00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:39.040 align:start position:0% op daardie idee 00:46:39.040 --> 00:46:40.790 align:start position:0% op daardie idee is 00:46:40.790 --> 00:46:40.800 align:start position:0% is 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:42.710 align:start position:0% is ek <00:46:41.040>neem <00:46:41.280>aan <00:46:41.520>jy <00:46:41.760>bedoel <00:46:42.000>dat <00:46:42.240>data 00:46:42.710 --> 00:46:42.720 align:start position:0% ek neem aan jy bedoel dat data 00:46:42.720 --> 00:46:45.990 align:start position:0% ek neem aan jy bedoel dat data privaat <00:46:43.136>bly <00:46:43.552>behalwe <00:46:43.968>vir <00:46:44.384>die <00:46:44.800>portuurbeoordelings- 00:46:45.990 --> 00:46:46.000 align:start position:0% privaat bly behalwe vir die portuurbeoordelings- 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.630 align:start position:0% privaat bly behalwe vir die portuurbeoordelings- beoordelaars <00:46:46.496>die <00:46:46.992>probleem <00:46:47.488>is <00:46:47.984>natuurlik <00:46:48.480>soos 00:46:48.630 --> 00:46:48.640 align:start position:0% beoordelaars die probleem is natuurlik soos 00:46:48.640 --> 00:46:50.309 align:start position:0% beoordelaars die probleem is natuurlik soos jy <00:46:48.980>waarskynlik <00:46:49.320>weet <00:46:49.660>is <00:46:50.000>die 00:46:50.309 --> 00:46:50.319 align:start position:0% jy waarskynlik weet is die 00:46:50.319 --> 00:46:52.950 align:start position:0% jy waarskynlik weet is die portuurbeoordelingsproses <00:46:50.639>nie <00:46:50.959>perfek <00:46:51.279>nie 00:46:52.950 --> 00:46:52.960 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelingsproses nie perfek nie 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.349 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelingsproses nie perfek nie jy <00:46:53.104>weet <00:46:53.248>dit <00:46:53.392>is <00:46:53.536>individue <00:46:53.680>soos 00:46:55.349 --> 00:46:55.359 align:start position:0% jy weet dit is individue soos 00:46:55.359 --> 00:46:57.589 align:start position:0% jy weet dit is individue soos dit <00:46:55.743>voel <00:46:56.127>daar <00:46:56.511>moet <00:46:56.895>baie <00:46:57.279>meer 00:46:57.589 --> 00:46:57.599 align:start position:0% dit voel daar moet baie meer 00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:59.510 align:start position:0% dit voel daar moet baie meer oë <00:46:57.839>op <00:46:58.079>die <00:46:58.319>data <00:46:58.559>wees <00:46:58.799>as <00:46:59.039>net <00:46:59.279>die 00:46:59.510 --> 00:46:59.520 align:start position:0% oë op die data wees as net die 00:46:59.520 --> 00:47:01.270 align:start position:0% oë op die data wees as net die portuurbeoordelaars <00:47:00.400>ja 00:47:01.270 --> 00:47:01.280 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelaars ja 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.589 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelaars ja dit <00:47:01.476>is <00:47:01.672>nie <00:47:01.868>'n <00:47:02.064>moeilike <00:47:02.260>probleem <00:47:02.456>om <00:47:02.652>op <00:47:02.848>te <00:47:03.044>los <00:47:03.240>wanneer <00:47:03.436>' 00:47:03.589 --> 00:47:03.599 align:start position:0% dit is nie 'n moeilike probleem om op te los wanneer ' 00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.150 align:start position:0% dit is nie 'n moeilike probleem om op te los wanneer ' n <00:47:04.880>studie 00:47:06.150 --> 00:47:06.160 align:start position:0% n studie 00:47:06.160 --> 00:47:10.150 align:start position:0% n studie voltooi <00:47:06.440>is <00:47:06.720>nie <00:47:07.000>en <00:47:07.280>'n <00:47:07.560>kliniese <00:47:07.840>studieverslag <00:47:08.120>word <00:47:08.400>gemaak 00:47:10.150 --> 00:47:10.160 align:start position:0% voltooi is nie en 'n kliniese studieverslag word gemaak 00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:12.230 align:start position:0% voltooi is nie en 'n kliniese studieverslag word gemaak en 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dit tabuleer dit op <00:47:17.813>die <00:47:17.946>maniere <00:47:18.079>wat 00:47:19.349 --> 00:47:19.359 align:start position:0% op die maniere wat 00:47:19.359 --> 00:47:21.990 align:start position:0% op die maniere wat dit <00:47:19.759>kwansuis <00:47:20.159>is <00:47:20.559>en <00:47:20.959>gewoonlik 00:47:21.990 --> 00:47:22.000 align:start position:0% dit kwansuis is en gewoonlik 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.670 align:start position:0% dit kwansuis is en gewoonlik op <00:47:22.271>die <00:47:22.542>maniere <00:47:22.813>wat <00:47:23.084>die <00:47:23.355>maatskappy 00:47:23.670 --> 00:47:23.680 align:start position:0% op die maniere wat die maatskappy 00:47:23.680 --> 00:47:25.510 align:start position:0% op die maniere wat die maatskappy vooraf gespesifiseer het 00:47:25.510 --> 00:47:25.520 align:start position:0% vooraf gespesifiseer het 00:47:25.520 --> 00:47:27.349 align:start position:0% vooraf gespesifiseer het sodat <00:47:25.824>jy <00:47:26.128>dan <00:47:26.432>eindig <00:47:26.736>met <00:47:27.040>'n 00:47:27.349 --> 00:47:27.359 align:start position:0% sodat jy dan eindig met 'n 00:47:27.359 --> 00:47:31.990 align:start position:0% sodat jy dan eindig met 'n soekbare, <00:47:27.736>kom <00:47:28.113>ons <00:47:28.490>sê <00:47:28.867>3 <00:47:29.244>000 <00:47:29.621>bladsye <00:47:29.998>dokument 00:47:31.990 --> 00:47:32.000 align:start position:0% soekbare, kom ons sê 3 000 bladsye dokument 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:32.790 align:start position:0% soekbare, kom ons sê 3 000 bladsye dokument soos 00:47:32.790 --> 00:47:32.800 align:start position:0% soos 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:34.710 align:start position:0% soos ek <00:47:33.028>geword <00:47:33.256>het <00:47:33.484>meer <00:47:33.712>ervare <00:47:33.940>as <00:47:34.168>'n <00:47:34.396>kenner 00:47:34.710 --> 00:47:34.720 align:start position:0% ek geword het meer ervare as 'n kenner 00:47:34.720 --> 00:47:36.069 align:start position:0% ek geword het meer ervare as 'n kenner in 00:47:36.069 --> 00:47:36.079 align:start position:0% in 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.470 align:start position:0% in litigasie <00:47:36.216>kan <00:47:36.353>ek <00:47:36.490>redelik <00:47:36.627>vinnig <00:47:36.764>deur <00:47:36.901>daardie <00:47:37.038>dokumente 00:47:38.470 --> 00:47:38.480 align:start position:0% litigasie kan ek redelik vinnig deur daardie dokumente 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:40.710 align:start position:0% litigasie kan ek redelik vinnig deur daardie dokumente gaan, <00:47:38.960>uh <00:47:39.440>vinnig <00:47:39.920>kan <00:47:40.400>20 00:47:40.710 --> 00:47:40.720 align:start position:0% gaan, uh vinnig kan 20 00:47:40.720 --> 00:47:42.870 align:start position:0% gaan, uh vinnig kan 20 uur <00:47:40.949>of <00:47:41.178>40 <00:47:41.407>uur <00:47:41.636>beteken, <00:47:41.865>maar <00:47:42.094>dit <00:47:42.323>beteken <00:47:42.552>nie 00:47:42.870 --> 00:47:42.880 align:start position:0% uur of 40 uur beteken, maar dit beteken nie 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.270 align:start position:0% uur of 40 uur beteken, maar dit beteken nie drie <00:47:43.100>maande <00:47:43.320>van <00:47:43.540>my <00:47:43.760>werk 00:47:45.270 --> 00:47:45.280 align:start position:0% drie maande van my werk 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:46.150 align:start position:0% drie maande van my werk en 00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:46.160 align:start position:0% en 00:47:46.160 --> 00:47:47.510 align:start position:0% en kyk <00:47:46.640>of 00:47:47.510 --> 00:47:47.520 align:start position:0% kyk of 00:47:47.520 --> 00:47:49.030 align:start position:0% kyk of die <00:47:47.920>maatskappye 00:47:49.030 --> 00:47:49.040 align:start position:0% die maatskappye 00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:51.190 align:start position:0% die maatskappye of <00:47:49.262>die <00:47:49.484>manier <00:47:49.706>waarop <00:47:49.928>die <00:47:50.150>maatskappy <00:47:50.372>die <00:47:50.594>data <00:47:50.816>ontleed <00:47:51.038>het, 00:47:51.190 --> 00:47:51.200 align:start position:0% of die manier waarop die maatskappy die data ontleed het, 00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:53.750 align:start position:0% of die manier waarop die maatskappy die data ontleed het, is <00:47:51.799>nie <00:47:52.398>in <00:47:52.997>ooreenstemming <00:47:53.596>met 00:47:53.750 --> 00:47:53.760 align:start position:0% is nie in ooreenstemming met 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.910 align:start position:0% is nie in ooreenstemming met hul <00:47:54.426>statistiese <00:47:55.092>ontledingsplan <00:47:55.758>en 00:47:55.910 --> 00:47:55.920 align:start position:0% hul statistiese ontledingsplan en 00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.990 align:start position:0% hul statistiese ontledingsplan en hul <00:47:57.280>voorafgespesifiseerde <00:47:58.640>uitkomsmaatstawwe, 00:47:59.990 --> 00:48:00.000 align:start position:0% hul voorafgespesifiseerde uitkomsmaatstawwe, 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.710 align:start position:0% hul voorafgespesifiseerde uitkomsmaatstawwe, dit <00:48:00.224>is <00:48:00.448>nie <00:48:00.672>moeilik <00:48:00.896>nie <00:48:01.120>en <00:48:01.344>ek <00:48:01.568>dink <00:48:01.792>jy <00:48:02.016>is <00:48:02.240>reg 00:48:02.710 --> 00:48:02.720 align:start position:0% dit is nie moeilik nie en ek dink jy is reg 00:48:02.720 --> 00:48:04.390 align:start position:0% dit is nie moeilik nie en ek dink jy is reg eweknie-beoordelaars 00:48:04.390 --> 00:48:04.400 align:start position:0% eweknie-beoordelaars 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:06.230 align:start position:0% eweknie-beoordelaars ek <00:48:04.639>doen <00:48:04.878>nie <00:48:05.117>eweknie-evaluering <00:48:05.356>kliniese <00:48:05.595>proewe <00:48:05.834>nie, <00:48:06.073>maar 00:48:06.230 --> 00:48:06.240 align:start position:0% ek doen nie eweknie-evaluering kliniese proewe nie, maar 00:48:06.240 --> 00:48:07.750 align:start position:0% ek doen nie eweknie-evaluering kliniese proewe nie, maar ek <00:48:06.640>eweknie-evaluering 00:48:07.750 --> 00:48:07.760 align:start position:0% ek eweknie-evaluering 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.829 align:start position:0% ek eweknie-evaluering ander <00:48:08.080>soorte <00:48:08.400>artikels <00:48:08.720>ek <00:48:09.040>moet <00:48:09.360>een <00:48:09.680>doen 00:48:09.829 --> 00:48:09.839 align:start position:0% ander soorte artikels ek moet een doen 00:48:09.839 --> 00:48:11.750 align:start position:0% ander soorte artikels ek moet een doen op <00:48:10.034>die <00:48:10.229>vliegtuig <00:48:10.424>op <00:48:10.619>pad <00:48:10.814>huis <00:48:11.009>toe <00:48:11.204>en <00:48:11.399>dit <00:48:11.594>is 00:48:11.750 --> 00:48:11.760 align:start position:0% op die vliegtuig op pad huis toe en dit is 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:13.589 align:start position:0% op die vliegtuig op pad huis toe en dit is moeilik <00:48:11.965>ek <00:48:12.170>bedoel <00:48:12.375>ons <00:48:12.580>is <00:48:12.785>net <00:48:12.990>gewone <00:48:13.195>sterflike 00:48:13.589 --> 00:48:13.599 align:start position:0% moeilik ek bedoel ons is net gewone sterflike 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.710 align:start position:0% moeilik ek bedoel ons is net gewone sterflike mense <00:48:14.059>wat <00:48:14.519>vrywillig <00:48:14.979>werk <00:48:15.439>onbetaald 00:48:16.710 --> 00:48:16.720 align:start position:0% mense wat vrywillig werk onbetaald 00:48:16.720 --> 00:48:19.030 align:start position:0% mense wat vrywillig werk onbetaald die <00:48:16.960>motivering <00:48:17.200>is <00:48:17.440>nie <00:48:17.680>duidelik <00:48:17.920>nie 00:48:19.030 --> 00:48:19.040 align:start position:0% die motivering is nie duidelik nie 00:48:19.040 --> 00:48:23.030 align:start position:0% die motivering is nie duidelik nie die <00:48:19.840>motivering <00:48:20.640>is <00:48:21.440>om 00:48:23.030 --> 00:48:23.040 align:start position:0% die motivering is om 00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:25.109 align:start position:0% die motivering is om um <00:48:23.150>te <00:48:23.260>hou <00:48:23.370>om <00:48:23.480>'n <00:48:23.590>goeie <00:48:23.700>burger <00:48:23.810>te <00:48:23.920>wees 00:48:25.109 --> 00:48:25.119 align:start position:0% um te hou om 'n goeie burger te wees 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:25.910 align:start position:0% um te hou om 'n goeie burger te wees uh 00:48:25.910 --> 00:48:25.920 align:start position:0% uh 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.349 align:start position:0% uh in <00:48:26.377>die <00:48:26.834>mediese <00:48:27.291>gemeenskap <00:48:27.748>um <00:48:28.205>en <00:48:28.662>om <00:48:29.119>op 00:48:29.349 --> 00:48:29.359 align:start position:0% in die mediese gemeenskap um en om op 00:48:29.359 --> 00:48:31.510 align:start position:0% in die mediese gemeenskap um en om op vriendelike <00:48:29.743>voet <00:48:30.127>met <00:48:30.511>die <00:48:30.895>joernale <00:48:31.279>sodat 00:48:31.510 --> 00:48:31.520 align:start position:0% vriendelike voet met die joernale sodat 00:48:31.520 --> 00:48:33.510 align:start position:0% vriendelike voet met die joernale sodat as <00:48:32.133>jy <00:48:32.746>hierdie <00:48:33.359>soort 00:48:33.510 --> 00:48:33.520 align:start position:0% as jy hierdie soort 00:48:33.520 --> 00:48:35.430 align:start position:0% as jy hierdie soort van <00:48:33.679>'n <00:48:33.838>onuitgesproke 00:48:35.430 --> 00:48:35.440 align:start position:0% van 'n onuitgesproke 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.430 align:start position:0% van 'n onuitgesproke ja <00:48:35.640>uh <00:48:35.840>aansporing <00:48:36.040>wil <00:48:36.240>publiseer 00:48:37.430 --> 00:48:37.440 align:start position:0% ja uh aansporing wil publiseer 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.750 align:start position:0% ja uh aansporing wil publiseer as <00:48:37.759>'n <00:48:38.078>as <00:48:38.397>iemand <00:48:38.716>wat <00:48:39.035>spelteorie <00:48:39.354>geniet, 00:48:39.750 --> 00:48:39.760 align:start position:0% as 'n as iemand wat spelteorie geniet, 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.230 align:start position:0% as 'n as iemand wat spelteorie geniet, voel <00:48:40.133>ek <00:48:40.506>dat <00:48:40.879>motivering <00:48:41.252>goed <00:48:41.625>is, <00:48:41.998>maar 00:48:42.230 --> 00:48:42.240 align:start position:0% voel ek dat motivering goed is, maar 00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:44.549 align:start position:0% voel ek dat motivering goed is, maar dit <00:48:42.360>kan <00:48:42.480>baie <00:48:42.600>beter <00:48:42.720>wees, 00:48:44.549 --> 00:48:44.559 align:start position:0% dit kan baie beter wees, 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.630 align:start position:0% dit kan baie beter wees, ja <00:48:44.833>jy <00:48:45.107>moet <00:48:45.381>g <00:48:45.655>et <00:48:45.929>meer <00:48:46.203>erkenning <00:48:46.477>of 00:48:46.630 --> 00:48:46.640 align:start position:0% ja jy moet g et meer erkenning of 00:48:46.640 --> 00:48:50.309 align:start position:0% ja jy moet g et meer erkenning of op <00:48:47.031>een <00:48:47.422>of <00:48:47.813>ander <00:48:48.204>manier <00:48:48.595>akademiese <00:48:48.986>krediet <00:48:49.377>daarvoor <00:48:49.768>um <00:48:50.159>dit 00:48:50.309 --> 00:48:50.319 align:start position:0% op een of ander manier akademiese krediet daarvoor um dit 00:48:50.319 --> 00:48:53.030 align:start position:0% op een of ander manier akademiese krediet daarvoor um dit moet <00:48:50.831>na <00:48:51.343>jou <00:48:51.855>loopbaanvordering <00:48:52.367>gaan <00:48:52.879>as 00:48:53.030 --> 00:48:53.040 align:start position:0% moet na jou loopbaanvordering gaan as 00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:54.630 align:start position:0% moet na jou loopbaanvordering gaan as dit <00:48:53.280>'n <00:48:53.520>belangrike <00:48:53.760>vraestel <00:48:54.000>is <00:48:54.240>en <00:48:54.480>jy 00:48:54.630 --> 00:48:54.640 align:start position:0% dit 'n belangrike vraestel is en jy 00:48:54.640 --> 00:48:56.790 align:start position:0% dit 'n belangrike vraestel is en jy erken <00:48:54.900>dat <00:48:55.160>dit <00:48:55.420>'n <00:48:55.680>belangrike <00:48:55.940>referaat <00:48:56.200>is <00:48:56.460>as <00:48:56.720>'n 00:48:56.790 --> 00:48:56.800 align:start position:0% erken dat dit 'n belangrike referaat is as 'n 00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:00.230 align:start position:0% erken dat dit 'n belangrike referaat is as 'n goeie <00:48:57.340>portuurbeoordelaar <00:48:57.880>dat <00:48:58.420>dit <00:48:58.960>nie 00:49:00.230 --> 00:49:00.240 align:start position:0% goeie portuurbeoordelaar dat dit nie 00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:02.870 align:start position:0% goeie portuurbeoordelaar dat dit nie in <00:49:00.480>daardie <00:49:00.720>area <00:49:00.960>is <00:49:01.200>waar <00:49:01.440>dit <00:49:01.680>' 00:49:02.870 --> 00:49:02.880 align:start position:0% in daardie area is waar dit ' 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.630 align:start position:0% in daardie area is waar dit ' n <00:49:03.249>duidelike <00:49:03.618>stuk <00:49:03.987>is <00:49:04.356>nie <00:49:04.725>van <00:49:05.094>kak <00:49:05.463>papier <00:49:05.832>of 00:49:06.630 --> 00:49:06.640 align:start position:0% n duidelike stuk is nie van kak papier of 00:49:06.640 --> 00:49:08.870 align:start position:0% n duidelike stuk is nie van kak papier of duidelik <00:49:07.119>'n <00:49:07.598>wonderlike <00:49:08.077>papier <00:49:08.556>wat 00:49:08.870 --> 00:49:08.880 align:start position:0% duidelik 'n wonderlike papier wat 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.030 align:start position:0% duidelik 'n wonderlike papier wat nie <00:49:09.165>kontroversiële <00:49:09.450>aspekte <00:49:09.735>aan <00:49:10.020>hom <00:49:10.305>het <00:49:10.590>nie <00:49:10.875>en 00:49:11.030 --> 00:49:11.040 align:start position:0% nie kontroversiële aspekte aan hom het nie en 00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:13.270 align:start position:0% nie kontroversiële aspekte aan hom het nie en dit <00:49:11.325>is <00:49:11.610>net <00:49:11.895>'n <00:49:12.180>pragtige <00:49:12.465>stuk <00:49:12.750>werk <00:49:13.035>okay 00:49:13.270 --> 00:49:13.280 align:start position:0% dit is net 'n pragtige stuk werk okay 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:14.549 align:start position:0% dit is net 'n pragtige stuk werk okay dit <00:49:13.480>is <00:49:13.680>maklik 00:49:14.549 --> 00:49:14.559 align:start position:0% dit is maklik 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:16.150 align:start position:0% dit is maklik en <00:49:14.745>dan <00:49:14.931>is <00:49:15.117>daar <00:49:15.303>soos <00:49:15.489>die <00:49:15.675>baie 00:49:16.150 --> 00:49:16.160 align:start position:0% en dan is daar soos die baie 00:49:16.160 --> 00:49:18.630 align:start position:0% en dan is daar soos die baie moeilike <00:49:16.799>grys <00:49:17.438>area <00:49:18.077>wat 00:49:18.630 --> 00:49:18.640 align:start position:0% moeilike grys area wat 00:49:18.640 --> 00:49:20.950 align:start position:0% moeilike grys area wat baie <00:49:18.843>baie <00:49:19.046>dae <00:49:19.249>se <00:49:19.452>werk <00:49:19.655>van <00:49:19.858>jou <00:49:20.061>kant <00:49:20.264>mag <00:49:20.467>verg <00:49:20.670>as <00:49:20.873>'n 00:49:20.950 --> 00:49:20.960 align:start position:0% baie baie dae se werk van jou kant mag verg as 'n 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.190 align:start position:0% baie baie dae se werk van jou kant mag verg as 'n portuurbeoordelaar, <00:49:21.191>so <00:49:21.422>dit <00:49:21.653>is <00:49:21.884>nie <00:49:22.115>jy <00:49:22.346>nie <00:49:22.577>weet <00:49:22.808>dit <00:49:23.039>is 00:49:23.190 --> 00:49:23.200 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelaar, so dit is nie jy nie weet dit is 00:49:23.200 --> 00:49:25.670 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelaar, so dit is nie jy nie weet dit is nie <00:49:23.417>net <00:49:23.634>'n <00:49:23.851>paar <00:49:24.068>uur <00:49:24.285>nie, <00:49:24.502>maar <00:49:24.719>regtig 00:49:25.670 --> 00:49:25.680 align:start position:0% nie net 'n paar uur nie, maar regtig 00:49:25.680 --> 00:49:28.230 align:start position:0% nie net 'n paar uur nie, maar regtig ernstig <00:49:26.260>lees <00:49:26.840>soos <00:49:27.420>sommige <00:49:28.000>vraestelle 00:49:28.230 --> 00:49:28.240 align:start position:0% ernstig lees soos sommige vraestelle 00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:30.630 align:start position:0% ernstig lees soos sommige vraestelle kan 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hoef te doen nie, 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.630 align:start position:0% jy kan redeneer dat jy nie hoef te doen nie, maar <00:52:30.730>laat <00:52:30.980>ons <00:52:31.230>dit <00:52:31.480>net <00:52:31.730>laat <00:52:31.980>doen, <00:52:32.230>laat <00:52:32.480>die 00:52:32.630 --> 00:52:32.640 align:start position:0% maar laat ons dit net laat doen, laat die 00:52:32.640 --> 00:52:34.309 align:start position:0% maar laat ons dit net laat doen, laat die portuurbeoordelaars <00:52:33.440>vertroulikheidsooreenkomste 00:52:34.309 --> 00:52:34.319 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelaars vertroulikheidsooreenkomste 00:52:34.319 --> 00:52:36.710 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelaars vertroulikheidsooreenkomste onderteken <00:52:34.539>en <00:52:34.759>hulle <00:52:34.979>sal <00:52:35.199>nie <00:52:35.419>die <00:52:35.639>data <00:52:35.859>uitlek <00:52:36.079>nie, 00:52:36.710 --> 00:52:36.720 align:start position:0% onderteken en hulle sal nie die data uitlek nie, 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position:0% soort van soos wiki wikipedia daaraan het 00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:57.670 align:start position:0% soort van soos wiki wikipedia daaraan het 00:52:57.670 --> 00:52:57.680 align:start position:0% 00:52:57.680 --> 00:52:59.670 align:start position:0% en <00:52:57.856>dit <00:52:58.032>uit <00:52:58.208>te <00:52:58.384>laat <00:52:58.560>en <00:52:58.736>mense <00:52:58.912>mekaar <00:52:59.088>te <00:52:59.264>laat <00:52:59.440>kritiseer 00:52:59.670 --> 00:52:59.680 align:start position:0% en dit uit te laat en mense mekaar te laat kritiseer 00:52:59.680 --> 00:53:01.270 align:start position:0% en dit uit te laat en mense mekaar te laat kritiseer 00:53:01.270 --> 00:53:01.280 align:start position:0% 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.150 align:start position:0% okay <00:53:01.530>so <00:53:01.780>gepraat <00:53:02.030>van <00:53:02.280>die <00:53:02.530>data <00:53:02.780>wat <00:53:03.030>die <00:53:03.280>fda 00:53:04.150 --> 00:53:04.160 align:start position:0% okay so gepraat van die data wat die fda 00:53:04.160 --> 00:53:06.950 align:start position:0% okay so gepraat van die data wat die fda 55 <00:53:04.693>jaar <00:53:05.226>gevra <00:53:05.759>het 00:53:06.950 --> 00:53:06.960 align:start position:0% 55 jaar gevra het 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:09.190 align:start position:0% 55 jaar gevra het om <00:53:07.306>pfizer-entstofdata <00:53:07.652>vry <00:53:07.998>te <00:53:08.344>stel <00:53:08.690>dit <00:53:09.036>is 00:53:09.190 --> 00:53:09.200 align:start position:0% om pfizer-entstofdata vry te stel dit is 00:53:09.200 --> 00:53:12.670 align:start position:0% om pfizer-entstofdata vry te stel dit is ook <00:53:09.533>iets <00:53:09.866>wat <00:53:10.199>ek <00:53:10.532>met <00:53:10.865>uh <00:53:11.198>albert 00:53:12.670 --> 00:53:12.680 align:start position:0% ook iets wat ek met uh albert 00:53:12.680 --> 00:53:14.870 align:start position:0% ook iets wat ek met uh albert barola <00:53:12.858>geopper <00:53:13.036>het, <00:53:13.214>daar <00:53:13.392>is 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Ek is jammer vrouens 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.309 align:start position:0% en die 55 nie. 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is seker hy is bewus 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.510 align:start position:0% hy is bewus van ek is ek is seker hy is bewus in <00:53:55.226>een <00:53:55.492>of <00:53:55.758>ander <00:53:56.024>formulering <00:53:56.290>die <00:53:56.556>presiese <00:53:56.822>jare <00:53:57.088>wat <00:53:57.354>hy 00:53:57.510 --> 00:53:57.520 align:start position:0% in een of ander formulering die presiese jare wat hy 00:53:57.520 --> 00:53:59.589 align:start position:0% in een of ander formulering die presiese jare wat hy dalk <00:53:57.826>nie <00:53:58.132>bewus <00:53:58.438>was <00:53:58.744>nie, <00:53:59.050>maar <00:53:59.356>die 00:53:59.589 --> 00:53:59.599 align:start position:0% dalk nie bewus was nie, maar die 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.549 align:start position:0% dalk nie bewus was nie, maar die punt <00:53:59.946>is <00:54:00.293>dat <00:54:00.640>daar 00:54:02.549 --> 00:54:02.559 align:start position:0% punt is dat daar 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:04.870 align:start position:0% punt is dat 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00:54:13.280 align:start position:0% was die ding wat hy die meeste was ongemaklik 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:14.309 align:start position:0% was die ding wat hy die meeste was ongemaklik daarmee 00:54:14.309 --> 00:54:14.319 align:start position:0% daarmee 00:54:14.319 --> 00:54:16.230 align:start position:0% daarmee dat <00:54:14.539>hy <00:54:14.759>nie <00:54:14.979>oor <00:54:15.199>die <00:54:15.419>fda <00:54:15.639>wou <00:54:15.859>praat <00:54:16.079>nie 00:54:16.230 --> 00:54:16.240 align:start position:0% dat hy nie oor die fda wou praat nie 00:54:16.240 --> 00:54:17.510 align:start position:0% dat hy nie oor die fda wou praat nie 00:54:17.510 --> 00:54:17.520 align:start position:0% 00:54:17.520 --> 00:54:20.150 align:start position:0% en <00:54:17.830>dat <00:54:18.140>dit <00:54:18.450>verband <00:54:18.760>hou, <00:54:19.070>dit <00:54:19.380>was <00:54:19.690>duidelik <00:54:20.000>dat 00:54:20.150 --> 00:54:20.160 align:start position:0% en dat dit verband hou, dit was duidelik dat 00:54:20.160 --> 00:54:22.309 align:start position:0% en dat dit verband hou, dit was duidelik dat daar <00:54:20.480>'n <00:54:20.800>verhouding <00:54:21.120>daar <00:54:21.440>was 00:54:22.309 --> 00:54:22.319 align:start position:0% daar 'n verhouding daar was 00:54:22.319 --> 00:54:23.589 align:start position:0% daar 'n verhouding daar was dat 00:54:23.589 --> 00:54:23.599 align:start position:0% dat 00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:25.670 align:start position:0% dat as <00:54:23.983>die <00:54:24.367>woorde <00:54:24.751>wat <00:54:25.135>jy <00:54:25.519>gebruik 00:54:25.670 --> 00:54:25.680 align:start position:0% as die woorde wat jy gebruik 00:54:25.680 --> 00:54:27.829 align:start position:0% as die woorde wat jy gebruik potensieel <00:54:25.942>baie <00:54:26.204>skade <00:54:26.466>kan <00:54:26.728>doen, <00:54:26.990>want <00:54:27.252>soos <00:54:27.514>jy 00:54:27.829 --> 00:54:27.839 align:start position:0% potensieel baie skade kan doen, want soos jy 00:54:27.839 --> 00:54:29.990 align:start position:0% potensieel baie skade kan doen, want soos jy sê <00:54:28.089>daar <00:54:28.339>kan <00:54:28.589>regsgedinge <00:54:28.839>wees <00:54:29.089>aan <00:54:29.339>die <00:54:29.589>gang <00:54:29.839>is 00:54:29.990 --> 00:54:30.000 align:start position:0% sê daar kan regsgedinge wees aan die gang is 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.309 align:start position:0% sê daar kan regsgedinge wees aan die gang is daar <00:54:30.480>litigasie <00:54:30.960>daar <00:54:31.440>is <00:54:31.920>regsdinge 00:54:32.309 --> 00:54:32.319 align:start position:0% daar litigasie daar is regsdinge 00:54:32.319 --> 00:54:34.069 align:start position:0% daar litigasie daar is regsdinge al <00:54:32.524>die <00:54:32.729>soort <00:54:32.934>van <00:54:33.139>goed <00:54:33.344>en <00:54:33.549>dan <00:54:33.754>is 00:54:34.069 --> 00:54:34.079 align:start position:0% al die soort van goed en dan is 00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:35.750 align:start position:0% al die soort van goed en dan is daar <00:54:34.367>baie <00:54:34.655>speletjies <00:54:34.943>wat <00:54:35.231>in <00:54:35.519>hierdie 00:54:35.750 --> 00:54:35.760 align:start position:0% daar baie speletjies wat in hierdie 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:37.349 align:start position:0% daar baie speletjies wat in hierdie spasie <00:54:36.026>gespeel <00:54:36.292>word, <00:54:36.558>so 00:54:37.349 --> 00:54:37.359 align:start position:0% spasie gespeel word, so 00:54:37.359 --> 00:54:39.990 align:start position:0% spasie gespeel word, so um <00:54:37.559>ek <00:54:37.759>weet <00:54:37.959>nie <00:54:38.159>hoe <00:54:38.359>om <00:54:38.559>dit <00:54:38.759>te <00:54:38.959>interpreteer <00:54:39.159>nie. <00:54:39.359>Uh 00:54:39.990 --> 00:54:40.000 align:start position:0% um ek weet nie hoe om dit te interpreteer nie. Uh 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.630 align:start position:0% um ek weet nie hoe om dit te interpreteer nie. Uh of <00:54:40.217>hy <00:54:40.434>werklik <00:54:40.651>bewus <00:54:40.868>is <00:54:41.085>of <00:54:41.302>nie, <00:54:41.519>maar 00:54:42.630 --> 00:54:42.640 align:start position:0% of hy werklik bewus is of nie, maar 00:54:42.640 --> 00:54:44.870 align:start position:0% of hy werklik bewus is of nie, maar die <00:54:43.093>dieper <00:54:43.546>waarheid <00:54:43.999>is 00:54:44.870 --> 00:54:44.880 align:start position:0% die dieper waarheid is 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:48.150 align:start position:0% die dieper waarheid is dat <00:54:45.119>hy <00:54:45.358>baie <00:54:45.597>ongemaklik <00:54:45.836>is 00:54:48.150 --> 00:54:48.160 align:start position:0% dat hy baie ongemaklik is 00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:49.670 align:start position:0% dat hy baie ongemaklik is 00:54:49.670 --> 00:54:49.680 align:start position:0% 00:54:49.680 --> 00:54:53.030 align:start position:0% om <00:54:49.893>lig <00:54:50.106>na <00:54:50.319>hierdie <00:54:50.532>deel <00:54:50.745>van <00:54:50.958>die <00:54:51.171>spel <00:54:51.384>te <00:54:51.597>bring. 00:54:53.030 --> 00:54:53.040 align:start position:0% om lig na hierdie deel van die spel te bring. 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:54.230 align:start position:0% om lig na hierdie deel van die spel te bring. ja <00:54:53.359>en 00:54:54.230 --> 00:54:54.240 align:start position:0% ja en 00:54:54.240 --> 00:54:56.630 align:start position:0% ja en ek <00:54:54.520>gaan <00:54:54.800>lees <00:54:55.080>tussen <00:54:55.360>die <00:54:55.640>lyne <00:54:55.920>en 00:54:56.630 --> 00:54:56.640 align:start position:0% ek gaan lees tussen die lyne en 00:54:56.640 --> 00:54:58.470 align:start position:0% ek gaan lees tussen die lyne en albert <00:54:56.891>borla <00:54:57.142>het <00:54:57.393>my <00:54:57.644>verseker <00:54:57.895>nie <00:54:58.146>gevra <00:54:58.397>om 00:54:58.470 --> 00:54:58.480 align:start position:0% albert borla het my verseker nie gevra om 00:54:58.480 --> 00:54:59.910 align:start position:0% albert borla het my verseker nie gevra om namens <00:54:58.600>hom <00:54:58.720>te <00:54:58.840>praat <00:54:58.960>nie 00:54:59.910 --> 00:54:59.920 align:start position:0% namens hom te praat nie 00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:00.630 align:start position:0% namens hom te praat nie maar 00:55:00.630 --> 00:55:00.640 align:start position:0% maar 00:55:00.640 --> 00:55:02.470 align:start position:0% maar ek <00:55:00.830>dink <00:55:01.020>maar <00:55:01.210>wanneer <00:55:01.400>het <00:55:01.590>jy <00:55:01.780>met <00:55:01.970>hom <00:55:02.160>gepraat 00:55:02.470 --> 00:55:02.480 align:start position:0% ek dink maar wanneer het jy met hom gepraat 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.549 align:start position:0% ek dink maar wanneer het jy met hom gepraat hoe <00:55:02.754>lank <00:55:03.028>gelede <00:55:03.302>sjoe <00:55:03.576>die <00:55:03.850>tyd <00:55:04.124>vlieg <00:55:04.398>as 00:55:04.549 --> 00:55:04.559 align:start position:0% hoe lank gelede sjoe die tyd vlieg as 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:06.870 align:start position:0% hoe lank gelede sjoe die tyd vlieg as jy <00:55:04.819>lekker <00:55:05.079>kuier <00:55:05.339>uh <00:55:05.599>twee <00:55:05.859>maande <00:55:06.119>gelede <00:55:06.379>twee <00:55:06.639>maande 00:55:06.870 --> 00:55:06.880 align:start position:0% jy lekker kuier uh twee maande gelede twee maande 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.549 align:start position:0% jy lekker kuier uh twee maande gelede twee maande gelede <00:55:07.440>so 00:55:08.549 --> 00:55:08.559 align:start position:0% gelede so 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.990 align:start position:0% gelede so dit <00:55:08.982>was <00:55:09.405>net <00:55:09.828>onlangs <00:55:10.251>dit <00:55:10.674>het <00:55:11.097>uitgekom <00:55:11.520>uh 00:55:11.990 --> 00:55:12.000 align:start position:0% dit was net onlangs dit het uitgekom uh 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.470 align:start position:0% dit was net onlangs dit het uitgekom uh net <00:55:12.228>in <00:55:12.456>die <00:55:12.684>afgelope <00:55:12.912>week <00:55:13.140>dit <00:55:13.368>het <00:55:13.596>uitgekom 00:55:14.470 --> 00:55:14.480 align:start position:0% net in die afgelope week dit het uitgekom 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:15.270 align:start position:0% net in die afgelope week dit het uitgekom dat 00:55:15.270 --> 00:55:15.280 align:start position:0% dat 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:16.230 align:start position:0% dat um 00:55:16.230 --> 00:55:16.240 align:start position:0% um 00:55:16.240 --> 00:55:19.829 align:start position:0% um pfizer <00:55:16.685>nie <00:55:17.130>veg <00:55:17.575>nie <00:55:18.020>die <00:55:18.465>fda <00:55:18.910>pfizer <00:55:19.355>het 00:55:19.829 --> 00:55:19.839 align:start position:0% pfizer nie veg nie die fda pfizer het 00:55:19.839 --> 00:55:21.910 align:start position:0% pfizer nie veg nie die fda pfizer het by <00:55:20.026>die <00:55:20.213>fda <00:55:20.400>aangesluit 00:55:21.910 --> 00:55:21.920 align:start position:0% by die fda aangesluit 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.789 align:start position:0% by die fda aangesluit in <00:55:22.224>die <00:55:22.528>opposisie <00:55:22.832>teen <00:55:23.136>die <00:55:23.440>versoek 00:55:24.789 --> 00:55:24.799 align:start position:0% in die opposisie teen die versoek 00:55:24.799 --> 00:55:26.950 align:start position:0% in die opposisie teen die versoek om <00:55:25.760>hierdie 00:55:26.950 --> 00:55:26.960 align:start position:0% om hierdie 00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:29.589 align:start position:0% om hierdie uh <00:55:27.480>hierdie <00:55:28.000>dokumente 00:55:29.589 --> 00:55:29.599 align:start position:0% uh hierdie dokumente 00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.589 align:start position:0% uh hierdie dokumente in <00:55:29.737>dieselfde <00:55:29.875>hoeveelheid <00:55:30.013>vry <00:55:30.151>te <00:55:30.289>stel <00:55:30.427>van <00:55:30.565>die <00:55:30.703>tyd <00:55:30.841>wat <00:55:30.979>die <00:55:31.117>FDA 00:55:31.589 --> 00:55:31.599 align:start position:0% in dieselfde hoeveelheid vry te stel van die tyd wat die FDA 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:36.789 align:start position:0% in dieselfde hoeveelheid vry te stel van die tyd wat die FDA geneem <00:55:31.949>het <00:55:32.299>om <00:55:32.649>hulle <00:55:32.999>te <00:55:33.349>evalueer, <00:55:33.699>ja <00:55:34.049>so <00:55:34.399>pfizer 00:55:36.789 --> 00:55:36.799 align:start position:0% geneem het om hulle te evalueer, ja so pfizer 00:55:36.799 --> 00:55:38.789 align:start position:0% geneem het om hulle te evalueer, ja so pfizer 00:55:38.789 --> 00:55:38.799 align:start position:0% 00:55:38.799 --> 00:55:40.150 align:start position:0% bied 00:55:40.150 --> 00:55:40.160 align:start position:0% bied 00:55:40.160 --> 00:55:43.670 align:start position:0% bied aan <00:55:40.368>om <00:55:40.576>die <00:55:40.784>FDA <00:55:40.992>te <00:55:41.200>help 00:55:43.670 --> 00:55:43.680 align:start position:0% aan om die FDA te help 00:55:43.680 --> 00:55:45.829 align:start position:0% aan om die FDA te help om 00:55:45.829 --> 00:55:45.839 align:start position:0% om 00:55:45.839 --> 00:55:48.309 align:start position:0% om die <00:55:46.640>regter 00:55:48.309 --> 00:55:48.319 align:start position:0% die regter 00:55:48.319 --> 00:55:50.630 align:start position:0% die regter te <00:55:48.439>versoek <00:55:48.559>om <00:55:48.679>nie <00:55:48.799>die <00:55:48.919>tydlyn <00:55:49.039>af <00:55:49.159>te <00:55:49.279>dwing 00:55:50.630 --> 00:55:50.640 align:start position:0% te versoek om nie die tydlyn af te dwing 00:55:50.640 --> 00:55:53.510 align:start position:0% te versoek om nie die tydlyn af te dwing waarna <00:55:51.280>hy <00:55:51.920>blykbaar <00:55:52.560>beweeg <00:55:53.200>nie, 00:55:53.510 --> 00:55:53.520 align:start position:0% waarna hy blykbaar beweeg nie, 00:55:53.520 --> 00:55:54.950 align:start position:0% waarna hy blykbaar beweeg nie, so <00:55:53.702>vir <00:55:53.884>mense <00:55:54.066>wat <00:55:54.248>nie <00:55:54.430>vertroud <00:55:54.612>is <00:55:54.794>nie, 00:55:54.950 --> 00:55:54.960 align:start position:0% so vir mense wat nie vertroud is nie, 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.630 align:start position:0% so vir mense wat nie vertroud is nie, ons <00:55:55.299>praat <00:55:55.638>van <00:55:55.977>die <00:55:56.316>vryheid 00:55:56.630 --> 00:55:56.640 align:start position:0% ons praat van die vryheid 00:55:56.640 --> 00:55:59.030 align:start position:0% ons praat van die vryheid van <00:55:56.920>inligting <00:55:57.200>optree <00:55:57.480>versoeke <00:55:57.760>t 00:55:59.030 --> 00:55:59.040 align:start position:0% van inligting optree versoeke t 00:55:59.040 --> 00:56:03.030 align:start position:0% van inligting optree versoeke t om <00:56:00.480>die <00:56:01.920>pfizer-entstofdatastudiedata 00:56:03.030 --> 00:56:05.109 align:start position:0% om die pfizer-entstofdatastudiedata 00:56:05.109 --> 00:56:05.119 align:start position:0% 00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:06.710 align:start position:0% vry <00:56:05.239>te <00:56:05.359>stel <00:56:05.479>om <00:56:05.599>soveel 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dit is 00:56:11.750 --> 00:56:11.760 align:start position:0% dit is 00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:12.710 align:start position:0% dit is data 00:56:12.710 --> 00:56:12.720 align:start position:0% data 00:56:12.720 --> 00:56:15.030 align:start position:0% data maak <00:56:12.949>nie <00:56:13.178>saak <00:56:13.407>nie <00:56:13.636>daar <00:56:13.865>is <00:56:14.094>besonderhede <00:56:14.323>daaraan <00:56:14.552>en 00:56:15.030 --> 00:56:15.040 align:start position:0% maak nie saak nie daar is besonderhede daaraan en 00:56:15.040 --> 00:56:18.150 align:start position:0% maak nie saak nie daar is besonderhede daaraan en ek <00:56:15.451>dink <00:56:15.862>die <00:56:16.273>reaksie <00:56:16.684>van <00:56:17.095>die <00:56:17.506>FDA <00:56:17.917>is 00:56:18.150 --> 00:56:18.160 align:start position:0% ek dink die reaksie van die FDA is 00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:19.589 align:start position:0% ek dink die reaksie van die FDA is 00:56:19.589 --> 00:56:19.599 align:start position:0% 00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.470 align:start position:0% dit <00:56:19.946>natuurlik <00:56:20.293>ja <00:56:20.640>natuurlik 00:56:22.470 --> 00:56:22.480 align:start position:0% dit natuurlik ja natuurlik 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:23.750 align:start position:0% dit natuurlik ja natuurlik uh 00:56:23.750 --> 00:56:23.760 align:start position:0% uh 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:27.270 align:start position:0% uh maar <00:56:24.148>uh <00:56:24.536>jy <00:56:24.924>weet <00:56:25.312>ons <00:56:25.700>kan <00:56:26.088>net <00:56:26.476>'n 00:56:27.270 --> 00:56:27.280 align:start position:0% maar uh jy weet ons kan net 'n 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.670 align:start position:0% maar uh jy weet ons kan net 'n paar <00:56:27.546>x <00:56:27.812>aantal <00:56:28.078>bladsye <00:56:28.344>per <00:56:28.610>dag <00:56:28.876>publiseer 00:56:29.670 --> 00:56:29.680 align:start position:0% paar x aantal bladsye per dag publiseer 00:56:29.680 --> 00:56:33.109 align:start position:0% paar x aantal bladsye per dag publiseer 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<00:58:47.025>is <00:58:47.230>net <00:58:47.435>een 00:58:47.670 --> 00:58:47.680 align:start position:0% van die fda nie daar is net een 00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:50.549 align:start position:0% van die fda nie daar is net een verduideliking <00:58:48.060>waaraan <00:58:48.440>ek <00:58:48.820>kan <00:58:49.200>dink 00:58:50.549 --> 00:58:50.559 align:start position:0% verduideliking waaraan ek kan dink 00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.190 align:start position:0% verduideliking waaraan ek kan dink , <00:58:50.902>is <00:58:51.245>dat <00:58:51.588>die <00:58:51.931>fda <00:58:52.274>en <00:58:52.617>pfizer <00:58:52.960>nie 00:58:53.190 --> 00:58:53.200 align:start position:0% , is dat die fda en pfizer nie 00:58:53.200 --> 00:58:55.270 align:start position:0% , is dat die fda en pfizer nie die <00:58:53.400>data <00:58:53.600>wil <00:58:53.800>vrystel <00:58:54.000>wat 00:58:55.270 --> 00:58:55.280 align:start position:0% die data wil vrystel wat 00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:57.510 align:start position:0% die data wil vrystel wat hulle <00:58:55.960>nie <00:58:56.640>die 00:58:57.510 --> 00:58:57.520 align:start position:0% hulle nie die 00:58:57.520 --> 00:58:59.829 align:start position:0% hulle nie die drie <00:58:57.872>of <00:58:58.224>vyf <00:58:58.576>honderd <00:58:58.928>duisend <00:58:59.280>bladsye 00:58:59.829 --> 00:58:59.839 align:start position:0% drie of vyf honderd duisend bladsye 00:58:59.839 --> 00:59:03.109 align:start position:0% drie of vyf honderd duisend bladsye van <00:59:00.095>uh <00:59:00.351>dokumente <00:59:00.607>wil <00:59:00.863>vrystel <00:59:01.119>nie 00:59:03.109 --> 00:59:03.119 align:start position:0% van uh dokumente wil vrystel nie 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.750 align:start position:0% van uh dokumente wil vrystel nie en <00:59:03.399>ek <00:59:03.679>weet <00:59:03.959>nie <00:59:04.239>wat <00:59:04.519>is <00:59:04.799>daarin <00:59:05.079>nie. <00:59:05.359>ek 00:59:05.750 --> 00:59:05.760 align:start position:0% en ek weet nie wat is daarin nie. ek 00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.990 align:start position:0% en ek weet nie wat is daarin nie. ek wil <00:59:06.000>een <00:59:06.240>ding <00:59:06.480>baie <00:59:06.720>duidelik <00:59:06.960>sê 00:59:07.990 --> 00:59:08.000 align:start position:0% wil een ding baie duidelik sê 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.710 align:start position:0% wil een ding baie duidelik sê ek <00:59:08.319>is <00:59:08.638>nie <00:59:08.957>'n <00:59:09.276>anti-fakser <00:59:09.595>nie <00:59:09.914>ek <00:59:10.233>glo <00:59:10.552>die 00:59:10.710 --> 00:59:10.720 align:start position:0% ek is nie 'n anti-fakser nie ek glo die 00:59:10.720 --> 00:59:13.589 align:start position:0% ek is nie 'n anti-fakser nie ek glo die entstowwe <00:59:11.379>werk <00:59:12.038>ek <00:59:12.697>glo <00:59:13.356>almal 00:59:13.589 --> 00:59:13.599 align:start position:0% entstowwe werk ek glo almal 00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.309 align:start position:0% entstowwe werk ek glo almal moet <00:59:13.930>ingeënt 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<00:59:29.680>ek 00:59:31.109 --> 00:59:31.119 align:start position:0% daar iets is wat ek 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:32.950 align:start position:0% daar iets is wat ek vir <00:59:31.271>jou <00:59:31.423>tien <00:59:31.575>tot <00:59:31.727>een <00:59:31.879>kans <00:59:32.031>sal <00:59:32.183>gee <00:59:32.335>op <00:59:32.487>'n <00:59:32.639>weddenskap <00:59:32.791>dat 00:59:32.950 --> 00:59:32.960 align:start position:0% vir jou tien tot een kans sal gee op 'n weddenskap dat 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.109 align:start position:0% vir jou tien tot een kans sal gee op 'n weddenskap dat daar <00:59:33.200>iets <00:59:33.440>in <00:59:33.680>daardie <00:59:33.920>data 00:59:35.109 --> 00:59:35.119 align:start position:0% daar iets in daardie data 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.710 align:start position:0% daar iets in daardie data is <00:59:35.559>wat <00:59:35.999>vir <00:59:36.439>óf <00:59:36.879>'n <00:59:37.319>verleentheid <00:59:37.759>gaan 00:59:38.710 --> 00:59:38.720 align:start position:0% is wat vir óf 'n verleentheid gaan 00:59:38.720 --> 00:59:41.349 align:start position:0% is wat vir óf 'n verleentheid gaan wees <00:59:39.019>fda <00:59:39.318>of <00:59:39.617>pfizer <00:59:39.916>of <00:59:40.215>albei <00:59:40.514>so <00:59:40.813>daar <00:59:41.112>is 00:59:41.349 --> 00:59:41.359 align:start position:0% wees fda of pfizer of albei so daar is 00:59:41.359 --> 00:59:43.750 align:start position:0% wees fda of pfizer of albei so daar is twee <00:59:41.530>opsies, <00:59:41.701>ek <00:59:41.872>stem <00:59:42.043>saam <00:59:42.214>met <00:59:42.385>jou <00:59:42.556>100 00:59:43.750 --> 00:59:43.760 align:start position:0% twee opsies, ek stem saam met jou 100 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.549 align:start position:0% twee opsies, ek stem saam met jou 100 een <00:59:44.053>is <00:59:44.346>hulle <00:59:44.639>weet <00:59:44.932>van <00:59:45.225>verleentheid <00:59:45.518>dinge 00:59:46.549 --> 00:59:46.559 align:start position:0% een is hulle weet van verleentheid dinge 00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:48.069 align:start position:0% een is hulle weet van verleentheid dinge wat <00:59:46.919>opsie <00:59:47.279>een 00:59:48.069 --> 00:59:48.079 align:start position:0% wat opsie een 00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.069 align:start position:0% wat opsie een en <00:59:48.292>opsie <00:59:48.505>twee <00:59:48.718>is, 00:59:50.069 --> 00:59:50.079 align:start position:0% en opsie twee is, 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.470 align:start position:0% en opsie twee is, hulle <00:59:50.447>het <00:59:50.815>nie <00:59:51.183>genoeg <00:59:51.551>belê <00:59:51.919>om 00:59:52.470 --> 00:59:52.480 align:start position:0% hulle het nie genoeg belê om 00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.069 align:start position:0% hulle het nie genoeg belê om die <00:59:52.586>data <00:59:52.692>werklik <00:59:52.798>te <00:59:52.904>verstaan <00:59:53.010>nie <00:59:53.116>soos 00:59:54.069 --> 00:59:54.079 align:start position:0% die data werklik te verstaan nie soos 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:56.470 align:start position:0% die data werklik te verstaan nie soos m <00:59:54.239>ek <00:59:54.399>bedoel <00:59:54.559>dit <00:59:54.719>is <00:59:54.879>baie <00:59:55.039>data <00:59:55.199>wat <00:59:55.359>h 00:59:56.470 --> 00:59:56.480 align:start position:0% m ek bedoel dit is baie data wat h 00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:58.470 align:start position:0% m ek bedoel dit is baie data wat h lle <00:59:56.786>het <00:59:57.092>'n <00:59:57.398>gevoel <00:59:57.704>dat <00:59:58.010>daar <00:59:58.316>dalk 00:59:58.470 --> 00:59:58.480 align:start position:0% lle het 'n gevoel dat daar dalk 00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.069 align:start position:0% lle het 'n gevoel dat daar dalk ets <00:59:58.685>verleentheid <00:59:58.890>daarin <00:59:59.095>kan <00:59:59.300>wees <00:59:59.505>en <00:59:59.710>as <00:59:59.915>on 01:00:00.069 --> 01:00:00.079 align:start position:0% ets verleentheid daarin kan wees en as on 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.150 align:start position:0% ets verleentheid daarin kan wees en as on vrystel <01:00:00.559>dit <01:00:01.039>sal 01:00:02.150 --> 01:00:02.160 align:start position:0% vrystel dit sal 01:00:02.160 --> 01:00:03.750 align:start position:0% vrystel dit sal sekerlik <01:00:02.447>die <01:00:02.734>wêreld <01:00:03.021>die <01:00:03.308>verleentheid <01:00:03.595>ontdek 01:00:03.750 --> 01:00:05.349 align:start position:0% sekerlik die wêreld die verleentheid ontdek 01:00:05.349 --> 01:00:05.359 align:start position:0% 01:00:05.359 --> 01:00:07.829 align:start position:0% uh <01:00:05.639>om <01:00:05.919>uh <01:00:06.199>soort <01:00:06.479>van <01:00:06.759>die <01:00:07.039>staal <01:00:07.319>man <01:00:07.599>hul 01:00:07.829 --> 01:00:07.839 align:start position:0% uh om uh soort van die staal man hul 01:00:07.839 --> 01:00:10.549 align:start position:0% uh om uh soort van die staal man hul argument <01:00:08.159>te <01:00:08.479>doen <01:00:08.799>hulle <01:00:09.119>sal <01:00:09.439>die <01:00:09.759>klein <01:00:10.079>vat 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position:0% in groot dinge ja en ondersteun die 01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:20.630 align:start position:0% in groot dinge ja en ondersteun die anti-vaxx <01:00:18.159>ja <01:00:18.719>veldtog <01:00:19.279>ja <01:00:19.839>ek <01:00:20.399>dink 01:00:20.630 --> 01:00:20.640 align:start position:0% anti-vaxx ja veldtog ja ek dink 01:00:20.640 --> 01:00:22.630 align:start position:0% anti-vaxx ja veldtog ja ek dink dit <01:00:20.826>is <01:00:21.012>al <01:00:21.198>moontlik 01:00:22.630 --> 01:00:22.640 align:start position:0% dit is al moontlik 01:00:22.640 --> 01:00:25.349 align:start position:0% dit is al moontlik nietemin, <01:00:23.152>die <01:00:23.664>data <01:00:24.176>handel <01:00:24.688>oor <01:00:25.200>die 01:00:25.349 --> 01:00:25.359 align:start position:0% nietemin, die data handel oor die 01:00:25.359 --> 01:00:29.109 align:start position:0% nietemin, die data handel oor die oorspronklike <01:00:26.185>kliniese <01:00:27.011>proef <01:00:27.837>en 01:00:29.109 --> 01:00:29.119 align:start position:0% oorspronklike kliniese proef en 01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:32.870 align:start position:0% oorspronklike kliniese proef en die <01:00:29.879>noodjeug <01:00:30.639>se <01:00:31.399>magtiging <01:00:32.159>was 01:00:32.870 --> 01:00:32.880 align:start position:0% die noodjeug se magtiging was 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:34.950 align:start position:0% die noodjeug se magtiging was gebaseer <01:00:33.154>op <01:00:33.428>die <01:00:33.702>eerste <01:00:33.976>paar <01:00:34.250>maande <01:00:34.524>van <01:00:34.798>die 01:00:34.950 --> 01:00:34.960 align:start position:0% gebaseer op die eerste paar maande van die 01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:36.549 align:start position:0% gebaseer op die eerste paar maande van die data <01:00:35.177>van <01:00:35.394>daardie <01:00:35.611>proef <01:00:35.828>en <01:00:36.045>dit <01:00:36.262>was <01:00:36.479>'n 01:00:36.549 --> 01:00:36.559 align:start position:0% data van daardie proef en dit was 'n 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.109 align:start position:0% data van daardie proef en dit was 'n twee <01:00:36.859>jaar <01:00:37.159>proef <01:00:37.459>die <01:00:37.759>res <01:00:38.059>van <01:00:38.359>daardie <01:00:38.659>data <01:00:38.959>het 01:00:39.109 --> 01:00:39.119 align:start position:0% twee jaar proef die res van daardie data het 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.109 align:start position:0% twee jaar proef die res van daardie data het nie <01:00:39.370>is <01:00:39.621>oopgemaak <01:00:39.872>en <01:00:40.123>daar <01:00:40.374>was <01:00:40.625>nie <01:00:40.876>'n 01:00:41.109 --> 01:00:41.119 align:start position:0% nie is oopgemaak en daar was nie 'n 01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:43.430 align:start position:0% nie is oopgemaak en daar was nie 'n advieskomiteevergadering 01:00:43.430 --> 01:00:43.440 align:start position:0% advieskomiteevergadering 01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:45.750 align:start position:0% advieskomiteevergadering om <01:00:43.679>na <01:00:43.918>daardie <01:00:44.157>data <01:00:44.396>te 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<01:00:51.680>hier <01:00:52.080>nie <01:00:52.480>maar 01:00:53.349 --> 01:00:53.359 align:start position:0% argument hier nie maar 01:00:53.359 --> 01:00:55.510 align:start position:0% argument hier nie maar ek <01:00:53.727>vermoed <01:00:54.095>dat <01:00:54.463>daar <01:00:54.831>iets <01:00:55.199>redelik 01:00:55.510 --> 01:00:55.520 align:start position:0% ek vermoed dat daar iets redelik 01:00:55.520 --> 01:00:57.349 align:start position:0% ek vermoed dat daar iets redelik ernstig <01:00:55.719>in <01:00:55.918>daardie <01:00:56.117>data <01:00:56.316>is 01:00:57.349 --> 01:00:57.359 align:start position:0% ernstig in daardie data is 01:00:57.359 --> 01:01:00.950 align:start position:0% ernstig in daardie data is en <01:00:57.536>die <01:00:57.713>rede <01:00:57.890>waarom <01:00:58.067>ek <01:00:58.244>nie <01:00:58.421>'n <01:00:58.598>anti-fakser <01:00:58.775>is <01:00:58.952>nie, 01:01:00.950 --> 01:01:00.960 align:start position:0% en die rede waarom ek nie 'n anti-fakser is nie, 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.270 align:start position:0% en die rede waarom ek nie 'n anti-fakser is nie, omdat <01:01:01.213>ek <01:01:01.466>nie <01:01:01.719>die <01:01:01.972>data <01:01:02.225>kon <01:01:02.478>sien 01:01:03.270 --> 01:01:03.280 align:start position:0% omdat ek nie die data kon sien 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.589 align:start position:0% omdat ek nie die data kon sien wat <01:01:03.500>die <01:01:03.720>fda <01:01:03.940>en <01:01:04.160>pfizer <01:01:04.380>blykbaar <01:01:04.600>bereid <01:01:04.820>was <01:01:05.040>om 01:01:05.589 --> 01:01:05.599 align:start position:0% wat die fda en pfizer blykbaar bereid was om 01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.630 align:start position:0% wat die fda en pfizer blykbaar bereid was om nie <01:01:06.079>net <01:01:06.559>moeite <01:01:07.039>te <01:01:07.519>doen 01:01:08.630 --> 01:01:08.640 align:start position:0% nie net moeite te doen 01:01:08.640 --> 01:01:10.870 align:start position:0% nie net moeite te doen om 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dit data oor 01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:24.309 align:start position:0% omdat dit data oor kliniese <01:01:22.826>proefnemings <01:01:23.012>is, <01:01:23.198>vroeë <01:01:23.384>kliniese <01:01:23.570>proefdata <01:01:23.756>wat 01:01:24.309 --> 01:01:24.319 align:start position:0% kliniese proefnemings is, vroeë kliniese proefdata wat 01:01:24.319 --> 01:01:26.549 align:start position:0% kliniese proefnemings is, vroeë kliniese proefdata wat etlike <01:01:24.582>duisende <01:01:24.845>behels <01:01:25.108>het. <01:01:25.371>mense <01:01:25.634>ons <01:01:25.897>het <01:01:26.160>nou 01:01:26.549 --> 01:01:26.559 align:start position:0% etlike duisende behels het. mense ons het nou 01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:29.589 align:start position:0% etlike duisende behels het. mense ons het nou miljoene <01:01:27.492>datapunte <01:01:28.425>van <01:01:29.358>mense 01:01:29.589 --> 01:01:29.599 align:start position:0% miljoene datapunte van mense 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.069 align:start position:0% 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01:01:40.390 --> 01:01:40.400 align:start position:0% tot dusver klop op hout daar is nie um 01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:43.750 align:start position:0% tot dusver klop op hout daar is nie um newe-effekte <01:01:40.811>wat <01:01:41.222>die <01:01:41.633>voordele <01:01:42.044>van <01:01:42.455>entstof <01:01:42.866>oorkom <01:01:43.277>nie 01:01:43.750 --> 01:01:45.030 align:start position:0% newe-effekte wat die voordele van entstof oorkom nie 01:01:45.030 --> 01:01:45.040 align:start position:0% 01:01:45.040 --> 01:01:48.230 align:start position:0% so <01:01:45.191>ek <01:01:45.342>is <01:01:45.493>i <01:01:45.644>Ek <01:01:45.795>is <01:01:45.946>by <01:01:46.097>jou <01:01:46.248>ek <01:01:46.399>is <01:01:46.550>nou, 01:01:48.230 --> 01:01:48.240 align:start position:0% so ek is i Ek is by jou ek is nou, 01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:50.069 align:start position:0% so ek is i Ek is by jou ek is nou, ek <01:01:48.506>dink <01:01:48.772>drie <01:01:49.038>skote 01:01:50.069 --> 01:01:50.079 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position:0% dit is dit is pro 01:02:34.799 --> 01:02:37.589 align:start position:0% dit is dit is pro entstof <01:02:35.399>drievoudige <01:02:35.999>masker 01:02:37.589 --> 01:02:37.599 align:start position:0% entstof drievoudige masker 01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.589 align:start position:0% entstof drievoudige masker demokratiese 01:02:39.589 --> 01:02:39.599 align:start position:0% demokratiese 01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:41.109 align:start position:0% demokratiese liberaal 01:02:41.109 --> 01:02:41.119 align:start position:0% liberaal 01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:43.190 align:start position:0% liberaal en <01:02:41.339>dan <01:02:41.559>anti-mandaat 01:02:43.190 --> 01:02:43.200 align:start position:0% en dan anti-mandaat 01:02:43.200 --> 01:02:44.710 align:start position:0% en dan anti-mandaat wat <01:02:43.440>ook <01:02:43.680>al <01:02:43.920>daardie <01:02:44.160>groepe <01:02:44.400>is, <01:02:44.640>ek 01:02:44.710 --> 01:02:44.720 align:start position:0% wat ook al daardie groepe is, ek 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position:0% groepe wat polities voel en die natuur is 01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:55.910 align:start position:0% groepe wat polities voel en die natuur is nie <01:02:53.546>wetenskaplik <01:02:53.892>van <01:02:54.238>aard <01:02:54.584>nie <01:02:54.930>dis <01:02:55.276>hulle 01:02:55.910 --> 01:02:55.920 align:start position:0% nie wetenskaplik van aard nie dis hulle 01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:57.829 align:start position:0% nie wetenskaplik van aard nie dis hulle kibbel <01:02:56.240>en <01:02:56.560>dan <01:02:56.880>is 01:02:57.829 --> 01:02:57.839 align:start position:0% kibbel en dan is 01:02:57.839 --> 01:03:00.309 align:start position:0% kibbel en dan is dit <01:02:58.379>duidelik <01:02:58.919>dat <01:02:59.459>hierdie <01:02:59.999>data 01:03:00.309 --> 01:03:00.319 align:start position:0% dit duidelik dat hierdie data 01:03:00.319 --> 01:03:02.309 align:start position:0% dit duidelik dat hierdie data deur <01:03:00.572>die <01:03:00.825>verskillende <01:03:01.078>groepe 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<01:03:09.200>die <01:03:09.560>waarheid <01:03:09.920>lê 01:03:11.109 --> 01:03:11.119 align:start position:0% verstaan waar die waarheid lê 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:12.789 align:start position:0% verstaan waar die waarheid lê veral <01:03:11.626>gegewe <01:03:12.133>hoeveel <01:03:12.640>geld 01:03:12.789 --> 01:03:12.799 align:start position:0% veral gegewe hoeveel geld 01:03:12.799 --> 01:03:15.589 align:start position:0% veral gegewe hoeveel geld aan <01:03:13.327>alle <01:03:13.855>kante <01:03:14.383>rondvlieg, <01:03:14.911>sodat <01:03:15.439>die 01:03:15.589 --> 01:03:15.599 align:start position:0% aan alle kante rondvlieg, sodat die 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.430 align:start position:0% aan alle kante rondvlieg, sodat die anti-vaxxers 01:03:17.430 --> 01:03:17.440 align:start position:0% anti-vaxxers 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.510 align:start position:0% anti-vaxxers ook <01:03:17.679>baie <01:03:17.918>geld <01:03:18.157>kan <01:03:18.396>maak, <01:03:18.635>laat <01:03:18.874>ons <01:03:19.113>dit <01:03:19.352>nie 01:03:19.510 --> 01:03:19.520 align:start position:0% ook baie geld kan maak, laat ons dit nie 01:03:19.520 --> 01:03:21.750 align:start position:0% ook baie geld kan maak, laat ons dit nie vergeet <01:03:19.840>vanuit <01:03:20.160>die <01:03:20.480>individuele 01:03:21.750 --> 01:03:21.760 align:start position:0% vergeet vanuit die individuele 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:23.910 align:start position:0% vergeet vanuit die individuele perspektief <01:03:22.034>nie, <01:03:22.308>jy <01:03:22.582>kan <01:03:22.856>beroemd <01:03:23.130>word <01:03:23.404>as <01:03:23.678>' 01:03:23.910 --> 01:03:23.920 align:start position:0% perspektief nie, jy kan beroemd word as ' 01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:26.230 align:start position:0% perspektief nie, jy kan beroemd word as ' n <01:03:24.228>anti-v <01:03:24.536>axxer <01:03:24.844>en <01:03:25.152>so <01:03:25.460>is <01:03:25.768>daar <01:03:26.076>baie 01:03:26.230 --> 01:03:26.240 align:start position:0% n anti-v axxer en so is daar baie 01:03:26.240 --> 01:03:28.829 align:start position:0% n anti-v axxer en so is daar baie aansporings <01:03:26.579>aan <01:03:26.918>alle <01:03:27.257>kante <01:03:27.596>hier 01:03:28.829 --> 01:03:28.839 align:start position:0% aansporings aan alle kante hier 01:03:28.839 --> 01:03:32.230 align:start position:0% aansporings aan alle kante hier en <01:03:29.279>en <01:03:29.719>daar <01:03:30.159>is <01:03:30.599>werklike <01:03:31.039>menslike <01:03:31.479>emosie <01:03:31.919>en 01:03:32.230 --> 01:03:32.240 align:start position:0% en en daar is werklike menslike emosie en 01:03:32.240 --> 01:03:33.270 align:start position:0% en en daar is werklike menslike emosie en vrees 01:03:33.270 --> 01:03:33.280 align:start position:0% vrees 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:37.510 align:start position:0% vrees en <01:03:33.791>ook <01:03:34.302>geloofwaardigheid <01:03:34.813>jy <01:03:35.324>weet <01:03:35.835>om 01:03:37.510 --> 01:03:37.520 align:start position:0% en ook geloofwaardigheid jy weet om 01:03:37.520 --> 01:03:38.630 align:start position:0% en ook geloofwaardigheid jy weet om wetenskaplikes 01:03:38.630 --> 01:03:38.640 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes 01:03:38.640 --> 01:03:41.029 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes wil <01:03:38.920>nie <01:03:39.200>hul <01:03:39.480>reputasie <01:03:39.760>ruïneer 01:03:41.029 --> 01:03:41.039 align:start position:0% wil nie hul reputasie ruïneer 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:43.029 align:start position:0% wil nie hul reputasie ruïneer as <01:03:41.292>hulle <01:03:41.545>as <01:03:41.798>hulle <01:03:42.051>uitpraat <01:03:42.304>in <01:03:42.557>wat 01:03:43.029 --> 01:03:43.039 align:start position:0% as hulle as hulle uitpraat in wat 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:44.390 align:start position:0% as hulle as hulle uitpraat in wat ook <01:03:43.280>al 01:03:44.390 --> 01:03:44.400 align:start position:0% ook al 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.470 align:start position:0% ook al hul 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01:04:00.230 --> 01:04:00.240 align:start position:0% wat om van daardie 01:04:00.240 --> 01:04:01.750 align:start position:0% wat om van daardie um 01:04:01.750 --> 01:04:01.760 align:start position:0% um 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.630 align:start position:0% um en <01:04:02.010>die <01:04:02.260>enigste <01:04:02.510>te <01:04:02.760>maak <01:04:03.010>nie. <01:04:03.260>gelukkige <01:04:03.510>mense <01:04:03.760>hier 01:04:04.630 --> 01:04:04.640 align:start position:0% en die enigste te maak nie. gelukkige mense hier 01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:06.549 align:start position:0% en die enigste te maak nie. gelukkige mense hier is <01:04:04.880>pfizer 01:04:06.549 --> 01:04:06.559 align:start position:0% is pfizer 01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:10.950 align:start position:0% is pfizer hy <01:04:06.959>ploeg <01:04:07.359>net <01:04:07.759>vorentoe <01:04:08.159>ek <01:04:08.559>bedoel <01:04:08.959>uh 01:04:10.950 --> 01:04:10.960 align:start position:0% hy ploeg net vorentoe ek bedoel uh 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01:04:29.750 align:start position:0% voortdurend nuwe ontwikkeling soos antivirale middels 01:04:29.750 --> 01:04:29.760 align:start position:0% middels 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.309 align:start position:0% middels nuut <01:04:30.070>van <01:04:30.380>nuwe <01:04:30.690>entstowwe <01:04:31.000>om <01:04:31.310>die <01:04:31.620>variante <01:04:31.930>te <01:04:32.240>hanteer, 01:04:32.309 --> 01:04:32.319 align:start position:0% nuut van nuwe entstowwe om die variante te hanteer, 01:04:32.319 --> 01:04:35.190 align:start position:0% nuut van nuwe entstowwe om die variante te hanteer, so <01:04:32.819>hulle <01:04:33.319>is <01:04:33.819>gelukkig <01:04:34.319>' 01:04:35.190 --> 01:04:35.200 align:start position:0% so hulle is gelukkig ' 01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:37.510 align:start position:0% so hulle is gelukkig ' n <01:04:35.639>kapitalistiese <01:04:36.078>masjien 01:04:37.510 --> 01:04:37.520 align:start position:0% n kapitalistiese masjien 01:04:37.520 --> 01:04:38.829 align:start position:0% n kapitalistiese masjien en 01:04:38.829 --> 01:04:38.839 align:start position:0% en 01:04:38.839 --> 01:04:40.390 align:start position:0% en 01:04:40.390 --> 01:04:40.400 align:start position:0% 01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:41.910 align:start position:0% dit <01:04:40.560>is <01:04:40.720>baie <01:04:40.880>moeilik <01:04:41.040>om <01:04:41.200>te 01:04:41.910 --> 01:04:41.920 align:start position:0% dit is baie moeilik om te 01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:43.589 align:start position:0% dit is baie moeilik om te weet <01:04:42.080>wat <01:04:42.240>om <01:04:42.400>daarmee <01:04:42.560>te <01:04:42.720>doen 01:04:43.589 --> 01:04:43.599 align:start position:0% weet wat om daarmee te doen 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.510 align:start position:0% weet wat om daarmee te doen en <01:04:43.782>kom <01:04:43.965>ons <01:04:44.148>ju <01:04:44.331>stel <01:04:44.514>dit <01:04:44.697>in <01:04:44.880>perspektief 01:04:45.510 --> 01:04:45.520 align:start position:0% en kom ons ju stel dit in 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<01:04:54.440>rumatoïede <01:04:54.940>artritis <01:04:55.440>en 01:04:55.670 --> 01:04:55.680 align:start position:0% behandeling van rumatoïede artritis en 01:04:55.680 --> 01:04:58.630 align:start position:0% behandeling van rumatoïede artritis en agt <01:04:56.000>ander <01:04:56.320>aanduidings, <01:04:56.640>en <01:04:56.960>dit <01:04:57.280>het <01:04:57.600>die <01:04:57.920>afgelope <01:04:58.240>tyd 01:04:58.630 --> 01:04:58.640 align:start position:0% agt ander aanduidings, en dit het die afgelope tyd 01:04:58.640 --> 01:05:02.069 align:start position:0% agt ander aanduidings, en dit het die afgelope tyd ongeveer <01:04:59.104>20 <01:04:59.568>miljard <01:05:00.032>dollar <01:05:00.496>wêreldwyd <01:05:00.960>verkoop 01:05:02.069 --> 01:05:02.079 align:start position:0% ongeveer 20 miljard dollar wêreldwyd verkoop 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.549 align:start position:0% ongeveer 20 miljard dollar wêreldwyd verkoop 'n <01:05:02.425>paar <01:05:02.771>jaar <01:05:03.117>het <01:05:03.463>dit <01:05:03.809>gelyk <01:05:04.155>geword 01:05:04.549 --> 01:05:04.559 align:start position:0% 'n paar jaar het dit gelyk geword 01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.190 align:start position:0% 'n paar jaar het dit gelyk geword dit <01:05:04.764>het <01:05:04.969>'n <01:05:05.174>hoogtepunt <01:05:05.379>bereik <01:05:05.584>op <01:05:05.789>daardie <01:05:05.994>vlak 01:05:07.190 --> 01:05:07.200 align:start position:0% dit het 'n hoogtepunt bereik op daardie vlak 01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:08.390 align:start position:0% dit het 'n hoogtepunt bereik op daardie vlak pfizer 01:05:08.390 --> 01:05:08.400 align:start position:0% pfizer 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.750 align:start position:0% pfizer verwag <01:05:08.799>om <01:05:09.198>65 <01:05:09.597>miljard <01:05:09.996>dollar <01:05:10.395>se <01:05:10.794>entstof <01:05:11.193>te <01:05:11.592>verkoop 01:05:11.750 --> 01:05:11.760 align:start position:0% verwag om 65 miljard dollar se entstof te verkoop 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.109 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01:07:49.520 align:start position:0% aan 'n program om wêreldwye inentings te doen nie 01:07:49.520 --> 01:07:52.069 align:start position:0% aan 'n program om wêreldwye inentings te doen nie , <01:07:49.952>so <01:07:50.384>die <01:07:50.816>maatskappye <01:07:51.248>wat <01:07:51.680>hul 01:07:52.069 --> 01:07:52.079 align:start position:0% , so die maatskappye wat hul 01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:53.430 align:start position:0% , so die maatskappye wat hul sakemodel <01:07:52.480>doen 01:07:53.430 --> 01:07:53.440 align:start position:0% sakemodel doen 01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:55.750 align:start position:0% sakemodel doen , <01:07:53.871>het <01:07:54.302>die <01:07:54.733>entstowwe <01:07:55.164>versprei <01:07:55.595>waar 01:07:55.750 --> 01:07:55.760 align:start position:0% , het die entstowwe versprei waar 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:57.910 align:start position:0% , het die entstowwe versprei waar hulle <01:07:56.159>die <01:07:56.558>meeste <01:07:56.957>geld <01:07:57.356>en 01:07:57.910 --> 01:07:57.920 align:start position:0% hulle die meeste geld en 01:07:57.920 --> 01:07:59.190 align:start position:0% hulle die meeste geld en natuurlik <01:07:58.069>sou <01:07:58.218>hulle <01:07:58.367>die <01:07:58.516>meeste <01:07:58.665>geld <01:07:58.814>maak <01:07:58.963>in <01:07:59.112>die 01:07:59.190 --> 01:07:59.200 align:start position:0% natuurlik sou hulle die meeste geld maak in die 01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:01.510 align:start position:0% natuurlik sou hulle die meeste geld maak in die eerste <01:07:59.429>wêreld <01:07:59.658>en <01:07:59.887>amper <01:08:00.116>al <01:08:00.345>wat <01:08:00.574>ek <01:08:00.803>dink <01:08:01.032>85 01:08:01.510 --> 01:08:01.520 align:start position:0% eerste wêreld en amper al wat ek dink 85 01:08:01.520 --> 01:08:04.390 align:start position:0% eerste wêreld en amper al wat ek dink 85 persent <01:08:01.904>van <01:08:02.288>die <01:08:02.672>vac-entstowwe <01:08:03.056>het <01:08:03.440>vroeg 01:08:04.390 --> 01:08:04.400 align:start position:0% persent van die vac-entstowwe het vroeg 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.190 align:start position:0% persent van die vac-entstowwe het vroeg na <01:08:04.706>die <01:08:05.012>eerste <01:08:05.318>wêreld <01:08:05.624>gegaan <01:08:05.930>en <01:08:06.236>baie 01:08:07.190 --> 01:08:07.200 align:start position:0% na die eerste wêreld gegaan en baie 01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:09.430 align:start position:0% na die eerste wêreld gegaan en baie baie <01:08:07.519>min <01:08:07.838>inentings <01:08:08.157>het <01:08:08.476>na <01:08:08.795>die <01:08:09.114>derde 01:08:09.430 --> 01:08:09.440 align:start position:0% baie min inentings het na die derde 01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:10.549 align:start position:0% baie min inentings het na die derde wêreld gegaan, 01:08:10.549 --> 01:08:10.559 align:start position:0% wêreld gegaan, 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:11.910 align:start position:0% wêreld gegaan, so 01:08:11.910 --> 01:08:11.920 align:start position:0% so 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:13.510 align:start position:0% so wat <01:08:12.120>gebeur <01:08:12.320>het <01:08:12.520>is <01:08:12.720>dat 01:08:13.510 --> 01:08:13.520 align:start position:0% wat gebeur het is dat 01:08:13.520 --> 01:08:14.309 align:start position:0% wat gebeur het is dat 01:08:14.309 --> 01:08:14.319 align:start position:0% 01:08:14.319 --> 01:08:16.630 align:start position:0% daar <01:08:14.665>so <01:08:15.011>'n <01:08:15.357>'n <01:08:15.703>lae <01:08:16.049>inentingskoers <01:08:16.395>in 01:08:16.630 --> 01:08:16.640 align:start position:0% daar so 'n 'n lae inentingskoers in 01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.110 align:start position:0% daar so 'n 'n lae inentingskoers in Mei <01:08:16.959>2021 <01:08:17.278>was 01:08:19.110 --> 01:08:19.120 align:start position:0% Mei 2021 was 01:08:19.120 --> 01:08:23.030 align:start position:0% Mei 2021 was daar <01:08:19.499>almal <01:08:19.878>hande <01:08:20.257>op <01:08:20.636>die <01:08:21.015>dek <01:08:21.394>geroep <01:08:21.773>om <01:08:22.152>hulp 01:08:23.030 --> 01:08:23.040 align:start position:0% daar almal hande op die dek geroep om hulp 01:08:23.040 --> 01:08:25.590 align:start position:0% daar almal hande op die dek geroep om hulp van <01:08:23.520>die <01:08:24.000>wêreldhandelsorganisasie 01:08:25.590 --> 01:08:25.600 align:start position:0% van die wêreldhandelsorganisasie 01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.789 align:start position:0% van die wêreldhandelsorganisasie um <01:08:26.439>die <01:08:27.278>wêreldgesondheidsorganisasie 01:08:28.789 --> 01:08:28.799 align:start position:0% um die wêreldgesondheidsorganisasie 01:08:28.799 --> 01:08:31.510 align:start position:0% um die wêreldgesondheidsorganisasie die <01:08:29.239>imf <01:08:29.679>en <01:08:30.119>die <01:08:30.559>wêreldbank 01:08:31.510 --> 01:08:31.520 align:start position:0% die imf en die wêreldbank 01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:33.430 align:start position:0% die imf en die wêreldbank het <01:08:31.706>'n <01:08:31.892>pleidooi <01:08:32.078>gelewer 01:08:33.430 --> 01:08:33.440 align:start position:0% het 'n pleidooi gelewer 01:08:33.440 --> 01:08:35.510 align:start position:0% het 'n pleidooi gelewer vir <01:08:33.786>50 <01:08:34.132>miljard <01:08:34.478>dollar 01:08:35.510 --> 01:08:35.520 align:start position:0% vir 50 miljard dollar 01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:38.630 align:start position:0% vir 50 miljard dollar sodat <01:08:35.920>ons <01:08:36.320>by <01:08:36.720>40 <01:08:37.120>inentingskoers <01:08:37.520>kon <01:08:37.920>uitkom 01:08:38.630 --> 01:08:38.640 align:start position:0% sodat ons by 40 inentingskoers kon uitkom 01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.030 align:start position:0% sodat ons by 40 inentingskoers kon uitkom . <01:08:38.971>die <01:08:39.302>derde <01:08:39.633>wêreld <01:08:39.964>teen <01:08:40.295>die <01:08:40.626>einde <01:08:40.957>van 01:08:41.030 --> 01:08:41.040 align:start position:0% . die derde wêreld teen die einde van 01:08:41.040 --> 01:08:44.309 align:start position:0% . die derde wêreld teen die einde van 2021 01:08:44.309 --> 01:08:44.319 align:start position:0% 01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:46.470 align:start position:0% en <01:08:44.586>dit <01:08:44.853>was <01:08:45.120>onbeantwoord, 01:08:46.470 --> 01:08:46.480 align:start position:0% en dit was onbeantwoord, 01:08:46.480 --> 01:08:48.789 align:start position:0% en dit was onbeantwoord, niemand <01:08:46.613>het <01:08:46.746>geantwoord <01:08:46.879>nie 01:08:48.789 --> 01:08:48.799 align:start position:0% niemand het geantwoord nie 01:08:48.799 --> 01:08:52.789 align:start position:0% niemand het geantwoord nie en <01:08:49.479>nou <01:08:50.159>het <01:08:50.839>Afrika <01:08:51.519>'n 01:08:52.789 --> 01:08:52.799 align:start position:0% en nou het Afrika 'n 01:08:52.799 --> 01:08:54.470 align:start position:0% en nou het Afrika 'n inentingskoers <01:08:53.039>van <01:08:53.279>ongeveer <01:08:53.519>8.9. 01:08:54.470 --> 01:08:54.480 align:start position:0% inentingskoers van ongeveer 8.9. 01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:56.390 align:start position:0% inentingskoers van ongeveer 8.9. Indië <01:08:54.746>kom <01:08:55.012>op, <01:08:55.278>maar <01:08:55.544>dit <01:08:55.810>is <01:08:56.076>v 01:08:56.390 --> 01:08:56.400 align:start position:0% Indië kom op, maar dit is v 01:08:56.400 --> 01:08:58.950 align:start position:0% Indië kom op, maar dit is v Die <01:08:56.640>probleem <01:08:56.880>met <01:08:57.120>dit <01:08:57.360>alles <01:08:57.600>is <01:08:57.840>baie <01:08:58.080>laag, 01:08:58.950 --> 01:08:58.960 align:start position:0% Die probleem met dit alles is baie laag, 01:08:58.960 --> 01:08:59.910 align:start position:0% Die probleem met dit alles is baie laag, 01:08:59.910 --> 01:08:59.920 align:start position:0% 01:08:59.920 --> 01:09:02.470 align:start position:0% ek <01:09:00.499>glo <01:09:01.078>daardie <01:09:01.657>mrna-entstowwe <01:09:02.236>is 01:09:02.470 --> 01:09:02.480 align:start position:0% ek glo daardie mrna-entstowwe is 01:09:02.480 --> 01:09:04.630 align:start position:0% ek glo daardie mrna-entstowwe is uitstekende <01:09:02.880>entstowwe, 01:09:04.630 --> 01:09:04.640 align:start position:0% uitstekende entstowwe, 01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:06.390 align:start position:0% uitstekende entstowwe, maar <01:09:04.896>as <01:09:05.152>ons <01:09:05.408>die <01:09:05.664>derde <01:09:05.920>wêreld 01:09:06.390 --> 01:09:06.400 align:start position:0% maar as ons die derde wêreld 01:09:06.400 --> 01:09:07.829 align:start position:0% maar as ons die derde wêreld ongeënt verlaat 01:09:07.829 --> 01:09:07.839 align:start position:0% ongeënt verlaat 01:09:07.839 --> 01:09:10.709 align:start position:0% ongeënt verlaat , <01:09:08.367>gaan <01:09:08.895>ons <01:09:09.423>'n <01:09:09.951>konstante <01:09:10.479>voorraad 01:09:10.709 --> 01:09:10.719 align:start position:0% , gaan ons 'n konstante voorraad 01:09:10.719 --> 01:09:13.510 align:start position:0% , gaan ons 'n konstante voorraad variante <01:09:11.359>van <01:09:11.999>kovid <01:09:12.639>hê <01:09:13.279>wat 01:09:13.510 --> 01:09:13.520 align:start position:0% variante van kovid hê wat 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.229 align:start position:0% variante van kovid hê wat na <01:09:13.920>die <01:09:14.320>Verenigde <01:09:14.720>State <01:09:15.120>gaan <01:09:15.520>terugkom <01:09:15.920>en 01:09:16.229 --> 01:09:16.239 align:start position:0% na die Verenigde State gaan terugkom en 01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.829 align:start position:0% na die Verenigde State gaan terugkom en Amerikaners <01:09:16.661>sal <01:09:17.083>benadeel. <01:09:17.505>presies <01:09:17.927>soos <01:09:18.349>delta <01:09:18.771>en <01:09:19.193>omicron 01:09:19.829 --> 01:09:19.839 align:start position:0% Amerikaners sal benadeel. presies soos delta en omicron 01:09:19.839 --> 01:09:20.709 align:start position:0% Amerikaners sal benadeel. presies soos delta en omicron het, 01:09:20.709 --> 01:09:20.719 align:start position:0% het, 01:09:20.719 --> 01:09:22.950 align:start position:0% het, so <01:09:20.932>ons <01:09:21.145>het <01:09:21.358>'n <01:09:21.571>wonderlike <01:09:21.784>middel <01:09:21.997>gemaak, 01:09:22.950 --> 01:09:22.960 align:start position:0% so ons het 'n wonderlike middel gemaak, 01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:23.829 align:start position:0% so ons het 'n wonderlike middel gemaak, dit 01:09:23.829 --> 01:09:23.839 align:start position:0% dit 01:09:23.839 --> 01:09:25.910 align:start position:0% dit verminder <01:09:24.207>die <01:09:24.575>risiko <01:09:24.943>van <01:09:25.311>sterftes <01:09:25.679>by 01:09:25.910 --> 01:09:25.920 align:start position:0% verminder die risiko van sterftes by 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.309 align:start position:0% verminder die risiko van sterftes by Amerikaners <01:09:26.399>wat <01:09:26.878>dit <01:09:27.357>kry, 01:09:28.309 --> 01:09:28.319 align:start position:0% Amerikaners wat dit kry, 01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:30.950 align:start position:0% Amerikaners wat dit kry, maar <01:09:28.650>ons <01:09:28.981>doen <01:09:29.312>nie <01:09:29.643>wat <01:09:29.974>ons <01:09:30.305>moet <01:09:30.636>doen 01:09:30.950 --> 01:09:30.960 align:start position:0% maar ons doen nie wat ons moet doen 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:33.349 align:start position:0% maar ons doen nie wat ons moet doen om <01:09:31.407>Amerikaners <01:09:31.854>te <01:09:32.301>beskerm <01:09:32.748>teen <01:09:33.195>omicron 01:09:33.349 --> 01:09:33.359 align:start position:0% om Amerikaners te beskerm teen omicron 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:35.030 align:start position:0% om Amerikaners te beskerm teen omicron nie. <01:09:33.585>wees <01:09:33.811>'n <01:09:34.037>idealis <01:09:34.263>en <01:09:34.489>bekommer <01:09:34.715>jou 01:09:35.030 --> 01:09:35.040 align:start position:0% nie. wees 'n idealis en bekommer jou 01:09:35.040 --> 01:09:37.189 align:start position:0% nie. wees 'n idealis en bekommer jou oor <01:09:35.540>wêreldwye <01:09:36.040>entstof-gelykheid <01:09:36.540>as <01:09:37.040>jy 01:09:37.189 --> 01:09:37.199 align:start position:0% oor wêreldwye entstof-gelykheid as jy 01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:38.789 align:start position:0% oor wêreldwye entstof-gelykheid as jy net 01:09:38.789 --> 01:09:38.799 align:start position:0% net 01:09:38.799 --> 01:09:40.870 align:start position:0% net gewone <01:09:39.029>selfsugtige <01:09:39.259>mense <01:09:39.489>is <01:09:39.719>soos <01:09:39.949>die <01:09:40.179>meeste <01:09:40.409>van <01:09:40.639>ons 01:09:40.870 --> 01:09:40.880 align:start position:0% gewone selfsugtige mense is soos die meeste van ons 01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:42.309 align:start position:0% gewone selfsugtige mense is soos die meeste van ons is <01:09:41.051>en <01:09:41.222>jy <01:09:41.393>is <01:09:41.564>bekommerd <01:09:41.735>oor <01:09:41.906>die <01:09:42.077>gesondheid 01:09:42.309 --> 01:09:42.319 align:start position:0% is en jy is bekommerd oor die gesondheid 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:45.030 align:start position:0% is en jy is bekommerd oor die gesondheid van <01:09:42.719>Amerikaners, <01:09:43.119>jy <01:09:43.519>sal <01:09:43.919>verseker 01:09:45.030 --> 01:09:45.040 align:start position:0% van Amerikaners, jy sal verseker 01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:47.590 align:start position:0% van Amerikaners, jy sal verseker wêreldwye <01:09:45.503>entstofverspreiding <01:09:45.966>laat <01:09:46.429>ek <01:09:46.892>net <01:09:47.355>nog 01:09:47.590 --> 01:09:47.600 align:start position:0% wêreldwye entstofverspreiding laat ek net nog 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:49.030 align:start position:0% wêreldwye entstofverspreiding laat ek net nog 'n <01:09:47.879>punt <01:09:48.158>maak 01:09:49.030 --> 01:09:49.040 align:start position:0% 'n punt maak 01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:51.110 align:start position:0% 'n punt maak dat <01:09:49.408>50 <01:09:49.776>miljard <01:09:50.144>dollar <01:09:50.512>wat <01:09:50.880>is 01:09:51.110 --> 01:09:53.189 align:start position:0% dat 50 miljard dollar wat is 01:09:53.189 --> 01:09:53.199 align:start position:0% 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:55.270 align:start position:0% in <01:09:53.256>Mei <01:09:53.313>2021 <01:09:53.370>deur <01:09:53.427>die <01:09:53.484>vier <01:09:53.541>organisasies <01:09:53.598>versoek 01:09:55.270 --> 01:09:55.280 align:start position:0% in Mei 2021 deur die vier organisasies versoek 01:09:55.280 --> 01:09:56.470 align:start position:0% in Mei 2021 deur die vier organisasies versoek 32 01:09:56.470 --> 01:09:56.480 align:start position:0% 32 01:09:56.480 --> 01:09:57.830 align:start position:0% 32 miljardêrs 01:09:57.830 --> 01:09:57.840 align:start position:0% miljardêrs 01:09:57.840 --> 01:09:59.510 align:start position:0% miljardêrs het <01:09:58.040>op <01:09:58.240>daardie <01:09:58.440>stadium <01:09:58.640>50 <01:09:58.840>miljard <01:09:59.040>dollar <01:09:59.240>uit <01:09:59.440>die 01:09:59.510 --> 01:09:59.520 align:start position:0% het op daardie stadium 50 miljard dollar uit die 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.350 align:start position:0% het op daardie stadium 50 miljard dollar uit die entstowwe <01:10:00.400>gemaak 01:10:01.350 --> 01:10:01.360 align:start position:0% entstowwe gemaak 01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:03.830 align:start position:0% entstowwe gemaak het <01:10:01.586>dit <01:10:01.812>in <01:10:02.038>hul <01:10:02.264>private <01:10:02.490>rykdom <01:10:02.716>geneem, 01:10:03.830 --> 01:10:03.840 align:start position:0% het dit in hul private rykdom geneem, 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:05.590 align:start position:0% het dit in hul private rykdom geneem, so <01:10:04.179>wat <01:10:04.518>is <01:10:04.857>hierdie <01:10:05.196>enorme 01:10:05.590 --> 01:10:05.600 align:start position:0% so wat is hierdie enorme 01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:06.790 align:start position:0% so wat is hierdie enorme bedrae <01:10:05.920>van <01:10:06.240>geld <01:10:06.560>wat 01:10:06.790 --> 01:10:06.800 align:start position:0% bedrae van geld wat 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:10.070 align:start position:0% bedrae van geld wat in <01:10:07.084>private <01:10:07.368>rykdom <01:10:07.652>geneem <01:10:07.936>is, <01:10:08.220>was <01:10:08.504>genoeg <01:10:08.788>om <01:10:09.072>te <01:10:09.356>doen 01:10:10.070 --> 01:10:10.080 align:start position:0% in private rykdom geneem is, was genoeg om te doen 01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:11.910 align:start position:0% in private rykdom geneem is, was genoeg om te doen wat <01:10:10.432>daardie <01:10:10.784>organisasies <01:10:11.136>gesê <01:10:11.488>het <01:10:11.840>gedoen 01:10:11.910 --> 01:10:11.920 align:start position:0% wat daardie organisasies gesê het gedoen 01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.870 align:start position:0% wat daardie organisasies gesê het gedoen moet <01:10:12.319>word <01:10:12.718>om <01:10:13.117>te <01:10:13.516>verhoed <01:10:13.915>dat <01:10:14.314>die <01:10:14.713>subvariante 01:10:14.870 --> 01:10:14.880 align:start position:0% moet word om te verhoed dat die subvariante 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:16.470 align:start position:0% moet word om te verhoed dat die subvariante terugkom <01:10:15.135>en <01:10:15.390>doen <01:10:15.645>wat <01:10:15.900>hulle <01:10:16.155>doen, 01:10:16.470 --> 01:10:16.480 align:start position:0% terugkom en doen wat hulle doen, 01:10:16.480 --> 01:10:18.390 align:start position:0% terugkom en doen wat hulle doen, so <01:10:16.710>die <01:10:16.940>geld <01:10:17.170>was <01:10:17.400>daar, <01:10:17.630>maar <01:10:17.860>hoe <01:10:18.090>werk <01:10:18.320>die 01:10:18.390 --> 01:10:18.400 align:start position:0% so die geld was daar, maar hoe werk die 01:10:18.400 --> 01:10:20.149 align:start position:0% so die geld was daar, maar hoe werk die motivering <01:10:18.826>die <01:10:19.252>geldgedrewe <01:10:19.678>motivering 01:10:20.149 --> 01:10:20.159 align:start position:0% motivering die geldgedrewe motivering 01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:24.870 align:start position:0% motivering die geldgedrewe motivering van <01:10:20.739>groot <01:10:21.319>farmaseutiese <01:10:21.899>lei <01:10:22.479>daartoe 01:10:24.870 --> 01:10:24.880 align:start position:0% 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.390 align:start position:0% dat <01:10:25.343>daardie <01:10:25.806>soort <01:10:26.269>toekenning <01:10:26.732>van <01:10:27.195>entstowwe, 01:10:28.390 --> 01:10:28.400 align:start position:0% dat daardie soort toekenning van entstowwe, 01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:30.709 align:start position:0% dat daardie soort toekenning van entstowwe, want <01:10:28.720>hulle <01:10:29.040>kan <01:10:29.360>meer <01:10:29.680>geld <01:10:30.000>maak <01:10:30.320>in <01:10:30.640>die 01:10:30.709 --> 01:10:30.719 align:start position:0% want hulle kan meer geld maak in die 01:10:30.719 --> 01:10:31.750 align:start position:0% want hulle kan meer geld maak in die Verenigde <01:10:31.039>State, <01:10:31.359>hulle <01:10:31.679>gaan 01:10:31.750 --> 01:10:31.760 align:start position:0% Verenigde State, hulle gaan 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:33.350 align:start position:0% Verenigde State, hulle gaan hul <01:10:32.140>entstowwe <01:10:32.520>versprei <01:10:32.900>waar <01:10:33.280>hulle 01:10:33.350 --> 01:10:33.360 align:start position:0% hul entstowwe versprei waar hulle 01:10:33.360 --> 01:10:36.550 align:start position:0% hul entstowwe versprei waar hulle die <01:10:33.630>meeste <01:10:33.900>geld <01:10:34.170>kan <01:10:34.440>maak, <01:10:34.710>reg <01:10:34.980>is <01:10:35.250>daar <01:10:35.520>' 01:10:36.550 --> 01:10:36.560 align:start position:0% die meeste geld kan maak, reg is daar ' 01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:40.149 align:start position:0% die meeste geld kan maak, reg is daar ' n <01:10:37.279>kwaadwillige <01:10:37.998>aspek <01:10:38.717>hieraan 01:10:40.149 --> 01:10:40.159 align:start position:0% n kwaadwillige aspek hieraan 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:41.270 align:start position:0% n kwaadwillige aspek hieraan . 01:10:41.270 --> 01:10:41.280 align:start position:0% . 01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:43.189 align:start position:0% . seun, 01:10:43.189 --> 01:10:43.199 align:start position:0% seun, 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:46.870 align:start position:0% seun, ek <01:10:43.341>hou <01:10:43.483>nie <01:10:43.625>daarvan <01:10:43.767>om <01:10:43.909>dit <01:10:44.051>te <01:10:44.193>sê <01:10:44.335>nie, <01:10:44.477>maar 01:10:46.870 --> 01:10:46.880 align:start position:0% 01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:50.070 align:start position:0% dat <01:10:47.100>hulle <01:10:47.320>dit <01:10:47.540>nie <01:10:47.760>as <01:10:47.980>'n <01:10:48.200>groot <01:10:48.420>probleem <01:10:48.640>sien 01:10:50.070 --> 01:10:50.080 align:start position:0% dat hulle dit nie as 'n groot probleem sien 01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:52.310 align:start position:0% dat hulle dit nie as 'n groot probleem sien dat <01:10:50.339>variante <01:10:50.598>na <01:10:50.857>die <01:10:51.116>Verenigde <01:10:51.375>State <01:10:51.634>sal <01:10:51.893>terugkom <01:10:52.152>nie 01:10:52.310 --> 01:10:52.320 align:start position:0% dat variante na die Verenigde State sal terugkom nie 01:10:52.320 --> 01:10:54.310 align:start position:0% dat variante na die Verenigde State sal terugkom nie , <01:10:52.626>ek <01:10:52.932>dink <01:10:53.238>dit <01:10:53.544>is <01:10:53.850>die <01:10:54.156>kwessie 01:10:54.310 --> 01:10:54.320 align:start position:0% , ek dink dit is die kwessie 01:10:54.320 --> 01:10:55.750 align:start position:0% , ek dink dit is die kwessie waaroor <01:10:54.480>ons <01:10:54.640>vroeër <01:10:54.800>gepraat 01:10:55.750 --> 01:10:55.760 align:start position:0% waaroor ons vroeër gepraat 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:57.669 align:start position:0% waaroor ons vroeër gepraat het <01:10:56.013>oor <01:10:56.266>waar <01:10:56.519>hulle <01:10:56.772>in <01:10:57.025>'n <01:10:57.278>ander 01:10:57.669 --> 01:10:57.679 align:start position:0% het oor waar hulle in 'n ander 01:10:57.679 --> 01:11:01.270 align:start position:0% het oor waar hulle in 'n ander kultuur <01:10:58.067>is <01:10:58.455>en <01:10:58.843>hul <01:10:59.231>kultuur <01:10:59.619>is <01:11:00.007>dat <01:11:00.395>hul 01:11:01.270 --> 01:11:01.280 align:start position:0% kultuur is en hul kultuur is dat hul 01:11:01.280 --> 01:11:03.350 align:start position:0% kultuur is en hul kultuur is dat hul morele <01:11:01.700>verpligting, <01:11:02.120>soos <01:11:02.540>Milton <01:11:02.960>friedman 01:11:03.350 --> 01:11:03.360 align:start position:0% morele verpligting, soos Milton friedman 01:11:03.360 --> 01:11:04.550 align:start position:0% morele verpligting, soos Milton friedman sou <01:11:03.600>sê, 01:11:04.550 --> 01:11:04.560 align:start position:0% sou sê, 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.470 align:start position:0% sou sê, is <01:11:04.912>om <01:11:05.264>die <01:11:05.616>winste <01:11:05.968>wat <01:11:06.320>hulle 01:11:06.470 --> 01:11:06.480 align:start position:0% is om die winste wat hulle 01:11:06.480 --> 01:11:08.310 align:start position:0% is om die winste wat hulle aan <01:11:06.697>aandeelhouers <01:11:06.914>teruggee, <01:11:07.131>te <01:11:07.348>maksimeer <01:11:07.565>en <01:11:07.782>nie <01:11:07.999>aan 01:11:08.310 --> 01:11:08.320 align:start position:0% aan aandeelhouers teruggee, te maksimeer en nie aan 01:11:08.320 --> 01:11:09.350 align:start position:0% aan aandeelhouers teruggee, te maksimeer en nie aan 01:11:09.350 --> 01:11:09.360 align:start position:0% 01:11:09.360 --> 01:11:11.510 align:start position:0% die <01:11:09.580>groter <01:11:09.800>prentjie <01:11:10.020>te <01:11:10.240>dink <01:11:10.460>nie <01:11:10.680>die <01:11:10.900>kollaterale <01:11:11.120>skade 01:11:11.510 --> 01:11:11.520 align:start position:0% die groter prentjie te dink nie die kollaterale skade 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:12.790 align:start position:0% die groter prentjie te dink nie die kollaterale skade dink <01:11:11.691>nie <01:11:11.862>aan <01:11:12.033>die <01:11:12.204>kollater <01:11:12.375>nie <01:11:12.546>al <01:11:12.717>en 01:11:12.790 --> 01:11:12.800 align:start position:0% dink nie aan die kollater nie al en 01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:14.790 align:start position:0% dink nie aan die kollater nie al en glo <01:11:13.440>ook 01:11:14.790 --> 01:11:14.800 align:start position:0% glo ook 01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:16.630 align:start position:0% glo ook oortuig <01:11:15.280>jouself 01:11:16.630 --> 01:11:16.640 align:start position:0% oortuig jouself 01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:18.790 align:start position:0% oortuig jouself dat <01:11:16.864>as <01:11:17.088>ons <01:11:17.312>toegee <01:11:17.536>aan <01:11:17.760>hierdie 01:11:18.790 --> 01:11:18.800 align:start position:0% dat as ons toegee aan hierdie 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:21.110 align:start position:0% dat as ons toegee aan hierdie kapitalistiese <01:11:19.200>masjien <01:11:19.600>in <01:11:20.000>hierdie <01:11:20.400>baie <01:11:20.800>eng 01:11:21.110 --> 01:11:21.120 align:start position:0% kapitalistiese masjien in hierdie baie eng 01:11:21.120 --> 01:11:23.189 align:start position:0% kapitalistiese masjien in hierdie baie eng sin <01:11:21.320>van <01:11:21.520>kapitalisme 01:11:23.189 --> 01:11:23.199 align:start position:0% sin van kapitalisme 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.830 align:start position:0% sin van kapitalisme dat <01:11:23.399>hulle <01:11:23.599>op <01:11:23.799>die <01:11:23.999>ou <01:11:24.199>end <01:11:24.399>die <01:11:24.599>meeste <01:11:24.799>goed <01:11:24.999>sal <01:11:25.199>doen 01:11:25.830 --> 01:11:25.840 align:start position:0% dat hulle op die ou end die meeste goed sal doen 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.870 align:start position:0% dat hulle op die ou end die meeste goed sal doen hierdie <01:11:26.251>soort <01:11:26.662>oortuiging <01:11:27.073>dat <01:11:27.484>soos <01:11:27.895>as <01:11:28.306>ons <01:11:28.717>net 01:11:28.870 --> 01:11:28.880 align:start position:0% hierdie soort oortuiging dat soos as ons net 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:31.270 align:start position:0% hierdie soort oortuiging dat soos as ons net winste <01:11:29.520>maksimeer, 01:11:31.270 --> 01:11:31.280 align:start position:0% winste maksimeer, 01:11:31.280 --> 01:11:33.510 align:start position:0% winste maksimeer, ons <01:11:31.530>sal <01:11:31.780>doen <01:11:32.030>die <01:11:32.280>beste, <01:11:32.530>ja, <01:11:32.780>dit <01:11:33.030>is <01:11:33.280>'n 01:11:33.510 --> 01:11:33.520 align:start position:0% ons sal doen die beste, ja, dit is 'n 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:35.590 align:start position:0% ons sal doen die beste, ja, dit is 'n ortodoksie <01:11:33.920>van <01:11:34.320>'n 01:11:35.590 --> 01:11:35.600 align:start position:0% ortodoksie van 'n 01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.310 align:start position:0% ortodoksie van 'n paar <01:11:36.013>dekades <01:11:36.426>gelede <01:11:36.839>en <01:11:37.252>ek <01:11:37.665>dink <01:11:38.078>nie 01:11:38.310 --> 01:11:38.320 align:start position:0% paar dekades gelede en ek dink nie 01:11:38.320 --> 01:11:40.070 align:start position:0% paar dekades gelede en ek dink nie mense <01:11:38.537>kan <01:11:38.754>dit <01:11:38.971>regtig <01:11:39.188>in <01:11:39.405>goeie <01:11:39.622>trou <01:11:39.839>sê 01:11:40.070 --> 01:11:40.080 align:start position:0% mense kan dit regtig in goeie trou sê 01:11:40.080 --> 01:11:41.830 align:start position:0% mense kan dit regtig in goeie trou sê as <01:11:40.260>jy <01:11:40.440>praat <01:11:40.620>oor <01:11:40.800>die 01:11:41.830 --> 01:11:41.840 align:start position:0% as jy praat oor die 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:43.990 align:start position:0% as jy praat oor die inenting <01:11:42.173>van <01:11:42.506>die <01:11:42.839>derde <01:11:43.172>wêreld <01:11:43.505>sodat <01:11:43.838>ons 01:11:43.990 --> 01:11:44.000 align:start position:0% inenting van die derde wêreld sodat ons 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:45.910 align:start position:0% inenting van die derde wêreld sodat ons nie <01:11:44.204>seerkry <01:11:44.408>nie, <01:11:44.612>dit <01:11:44.816>is <01:11:45.020>'n <01:11:45.224>bietjie <01:11:45.428>moeilik <01:11:45.632>om <01:11:45.836>te 01:11:45.910 --> 01:11:45.920 align:start position:0% nie seerkry nie, dit is 'n bietjie moeilik om te 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:47.830 align:start position:0% nie seerkry nie, dit is 'n bietjie moeilik om te maak <01:11:46.226>die <01:11:46.532>argument <01:11:46.838>dat <01:11:47.144>die <01:11:47.450>wêreld <01:11:47.756>'n 01:11:47.830 --> 01:11:47.840 align:start position:0% maak die argument dat die wêreld 'n 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:49.669 align:start position:0% maak die argument dat die wêreld 'n beter <01:11:48.068>plek <01:11:48.296>is, <01:11:48.524>want <01:11:48.752>die <01:11:48.980>winste <01:11:49.208>van <01:11:49.436>die 01:11:49.669 --> 01:11:49.679 align:start position:0% beter plek is, want die winste van die 01:11:49.679 --> 01:11:51.830 align:start position:0% beter plek is, want die winste van die beleggers <01:11:50.139>het <01:11:50.599>toegeneem, <01:11:51.059>ja, <01:11:51.519>maar 01:11:51.830 --> 01:11:51.840 align:start position:0% beleggers het toegeneem, ja, maar 01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.110 align:start position:0% beleggers het toegeneem, ja, maar terselfdertyd is 01:11:53.110 --> 01:11:53.120 align:start position:0% terselfdertyd is 01:11:53.120 --> 01:11:54.630 align:start position:0% terselfdertyd is dit 01:11:54.630 --> 01:11:54.640 align:start position:0% dit 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:57.910 align:start position:0% dit ek, <01:11:54.840>ek <01:11:55.040>dink <01:11:55.240>dit <01:11:55.440>is <01:11:55.640>'n <01:11:55.840>oortuiging <01:11:56.040>wat <01:11:56.240>jy <01:11:56.440>kan <01:11:56.640>vashou, 01:11:57.910 --> 01:11:57.920 align:start position:0% ek, ek dink dit is 'n oortuiging wat jy kan vashou, 01:11:57.920 --> 01:11:59.750 align:start position:0% ek, ek dink dit is 'n oortuiging wat jy kan vashou, ek <01:11:58.106>bedoel, <01:11:58.292>ek <01:11:58.478>het <01:11:58.664>met <01:11:58.850>'n <01:11:59.036>klomp <01:11:59.222>mense <01:11:59.408>interaksie <01:11:59.594>gehad, 01:11:59.750 --> 01:11:59.760 align:start position:0% ek bedoel, ek het met 'n klomp mense interaksie gehad, 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.189 align:start position:0% ek bedoel, ek het met 'n klomp mense interaksie gehad, daardie <01:12:00.080>soort <01:12:00.400>van 01:12:01.189 --> 01:12:01.199 align:start position:0% daardie soort van 01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:02.550 align:start position:0% daardie soort van dit <01:12:01.319>is <01:12:01.439>die 01:12:02.550 --> 01:12:02.560 align:start position:0% dit is die 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:04.790 align:start position:0% dit is die ek <01:12:02.769>Ek <01:12:02.978>wil <01:12:03.187>nie <01:12:03.396>ayn <01:12:03.605>rand <01:12:03.814>verkeerd <01:12:04.023>karakteriseer <01:12:04.232>nie, 01:12:04.790 --> 01:12:04.800 align:start position:0% ek Ek wil nie ayn rand verkeerd karakteriseer nie, 01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.510 align:start position:0% ek Ek wil nie ayn rand verkeerd karakteriseer nie, goed <01:12:05.296>ek <01:12:05.792>respekteer <01:12:06.288>baie <01:12:06.784>mense, <01:12:07.280>maar 01:12:07.510 --> 01:12:07.520 align:start position:0% goed ek respekteer baie mense, maar 01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.990 align:start position:0% goed ek respekteer baie mense, maar daar <01:12:07.866>is <01:12:08.212>'n <01:12:08.558>oortuiging <01:12:08.904>wat <01:12:09.250>kan <01:12:09.596>posvat 01:12:09.990 --> 01:12:10.000 align:start position:0% daar is 'n oortuiging wat kan posvat 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.310 align:start position:0% daar is 'n oortuiging wat kan posvat as <01:12:10.251>ek <01:12:10.502>net <01:12:10.753>op <01:12:11.004>hierdie <01:12:11.255>spesifieke <01:12:11.506>maksimering <01:12:11.757>fokus, 01:12:12.310 --> 01:12:12.320 align:start position:0% as ek net op hierdie spesifieke maksimering fokus, 01:12:12.320 --> 01:12:13.750 align:start position:0% as ek net op hierdie spesifieke maksimering fokus, 01:12:13.750 --> 01:12:13.760 align:start position:0% 01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:15.910 align:start position:0% dit <01:12:13.942>sal <01:12:14.124>die <01:12:14.306>beste <01:12:14.488>vir <01:12:14.670>die <01:12:14.852>wêreld <01:12:15.034>doen, 01:12:15.910 --> 01:12:15.920 align:start position:0% dit sal die beste vir die wêreld doen, 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:17.910 align:start position:0% dit sal die beste vir die wêreld doen, die <01:12:16.150>probleem <01:12:16.380>is <01:12:16.610>wanneer <01:12:16.840>jy <01:12:17.070>kies <01:12:17.300>wat <01:12:17.530>om <01:12:17.760>te 01:12:17.910 --> 01:12:17.920 align:start position:0% die probleem is wanneer jy kies wat om te 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:20.870 align:start position:0% die probleem is wanneer jy kies wat om te maksimeer <01:12:18.373>en <01:12:18.826>jy <01:12:19.279>sit <01:12:19.732>blind <01:12:20.185>dit <01:12:20.638>is 01:12:20.870 --> 01:12:20.880 align:start position:0% maksimeer en jy sit blind dit is 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:22.950 align:start position:0% maksimeer en jy sit blind dit is te <01:12:21.028>maklik <01:12:21.176>om <01:12:21.324>reusagtige <01:12:21.472>foute <01:12:21.620>te <01:12:21.768>begin <01:12:21.916>maak 01:12:22.950 --> 01:12:22.960 align:start position:0% te maklik om reusagtige foute te begin maak 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:25.669 align:start position:0% te maklik om reusagtige foute te begin maak wat <01:12:25.040>'n 01:12:25.669 --> 01:12:25.679 align:start position:0% wat 'n 01:12:25.679 --> 01:12:28.310 align:start position:0% wat 'n groot <01:12:25.945>negatiewe <01:12:26.211>impak <01:12:26.477>op <01:12:26.743>die <01:12:27.009>samelewing <01:12:27.275>het, <01:12:27.541>so <01:12:27.807>dit <01:12:28.073>maak 01:12:28.310 --> 01:12:28.320 align:start position:0% groot negatiewe impak op die samelewing het, so dit maak 01:12:28.320 --> 01:12:30.630 align:start position:0% groot negatiewe impak op die samelewing het, so dit maak regtig <01:12:28.560>saak <01:12:28.800>wat <01:12:29.040>jy <01:12:29.280>maksimeer 01:12:30.630 --> 01:12:30.640 align:start position:0% regtig saak wat jy maksimeer 01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:33.590 align:start position:0% regtig saak wat jy maksimeer reg <01:12:30.839>en <01:12:31.038>as <01:12:31.237>ons 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align:start position:0% een stem gehad en <01:12:39.830>rand <01:12:40.140>se <01:12:40.450>posisie <01:12:40.760>sal <01:12:41.070>'n <01:12:41.380>paar <01:12:41.690>stemme <01:12:42.000>kry, 01:12:42.630 --> 01:12:42.640 align:start position:0% en rand se posisie sal 'n paar stemme kry, 01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:43.990 align:start position:0% en rand se posisie sal 'n paar stemme kry, maar <01:12:42.773>nie <01:12:42.906>baie <01:12:43.039>nie 01:12:43.990 --> 01:12:44.000 align:start position:0% maar nie baie nie 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.790 align:start position:0% maar nie baie nie en <01:12:44.331>dit <01:12:44.662>sal <01:12:44.993>uitweg <01:12:45.324>wees <01:12:45.655>gestem <01:12:45.986>deur <01:12:46.317>die 01:12:46.790 --> 01:12:46.800 align:start position:0% en dit sal uitweg wees gestem deur die 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:48.709 align:start position:0% en dit sal uitweg wees gestem deur die gewone <01:12:47.199>mense 01:12:48.709 --> 01:12:48.719 align:start position:0% 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meta 01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:02.870 align:start position:0% van meta die <01:13:00.800>onderwerp <01:13:01.040>van <01:13:01.280>sensuur 01:13:02.870 --> 01:13:02.880 align:start position:0% die onderwerp van sensuur 01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:05.510 align:start position:0% die onderwerp van sensuur ek <01:13:03.109>weet <01:13:03.338>nie <01:13:03.567>of <01:13:03.796>jy <01:13:04.025>Ek <01:13:04.254>het <01:13:04.483>gehoor, <01:13:04.712>maar 01:13:05.510 --> 01:13:05.520 align:start position:0% ek weet nie of jy Ek het gehoor, maar 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:07.830 align:start position:0% ek weet nie of jy Ek het gehoor, maar daar <01:13:05.751>is <01:13:05.982>'n <01:13:06.213>ou <01:13:06.444>met <01:13:06.675>die <01:13:06.906>naam <01:13:07.137>Robert <01:13:07.368>Malone <01:13:07.599>en 01:13:07.830 --> 01:13:07.840 align:start position:0% daar is 'n ou met die naam Robert Malone en 01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.830 align:start position:0% daar is 'n ou met die naam Robert Malone en Peter <01:13:08.453>McCalla <01:13:09.066>wat <01:13:09.679>van 01:13:09.830 --> 01:13:09.840 align:start position:0% Peter McCalla wat van 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.750 align:start position:0% Peter McCalla wat van baie <01:13:10.035>platforms <01:13:10.230>verwyder <01:13:10.425>is <01:13:10.620>omdat <01:13:10.815>hulle <01:13:11.010>gepraat <01:13:11.205>het <01:13:11.400>oor <01:13:11.595>die 01:13:11.750 --> 01:13:11.760 align:start position:0% baie platforms verwyder is omdat hulle gepraat het oor die 01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.470 align:start position:0% baie platforms verwyder is omdat hulle gepraat het oor die begeerlike <01:13:12.272>entstof <01:13:12.784>as <01:13:13.296>riskant <01:13:13.808>hulle <01:13:14.320>was 01:13:14.470 --> 01:13:14.480 align:start position:0% begeerlike entstof as riskant hulle was 01:13:14.480 --> 01:13:17.510 align:start position:0% begeerlike entstof as riskant hulle was albei <01:13:14.800>op <01:13:15.120>Joe <01:13:15.440>Rogan 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01:13:29.189 align:start position:0% moeilike ruimte waar so baie word beheer <01:13:28.080>deur 01:13:29.189 --> 01:13:29.199 align:start position:0% beheer deur 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:30.790 align:start position:0% beheer deur nie <01:13:29.471>beheer <01:13:29.743>nie, <01:13:30.015>maar <01:13:30.287>beïnvloed <01:13:30.559>deur 01:13:30.790 --> 01:13:30.800 align:start position:0% nie beheer nie, maar beïnvloed deur 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.790 align:start position:0% nie beheer nie, maar beïnvloed deur advertensies <01:13:31.173>van <01:13:31.546>groot <01:13:31.919>farmaseutiese 01:13:34.790 --> 01:13:34.800 align:start position:0% 01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:37.189 align:start position:0% en <01:13:35.080>wetenskap <01:13:35.360>kan <01:13:35.640>selfs <01:13:35.920>deur <01:13:36.200>groot <01:13:36.480>farmaseutiese <01:13:36.760>beïnvloed <01:13:37.040>word 01:13:37.189 --> 01:13:39.270 align:start position:0% en wetenskap kan selfs deur groot farmaseutiese beïnvloed word 01:13:39.270 --> 01:13:39.280 align:start position:0% 01:13:39.280 --> 01:13:41.270 align:start position:0% waar <01:13:39.653>leun <01:13:40.026>jy <01:13:40.399>hierop 01:13:41.270 --> 01:13:41.280 align:start position:0% waar leun jy hierop 01:13:41.280 --> 01:13:42.950 align:start position:0% waar leun jy hierop sou <01:13:41.600>ons 01:13:42.950 --> 01:13:42.960 align:start position:0% sou ons 01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:44.229 align:start position:0% sou ons toelaat 01:13:44.229 --> 01:13:44.239 align:start position:0% toelaat 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:45.189 align:start position:0% toelaat sou <01:13:44.480>ons 01:13:45.189 --> 01:13:45.199 align:start position:0% sou ons 01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:48.310 align:start position:0% sou ons leun <01:13:45.665>na <01:13:46.131>vryheid <01:13:46.597>en <01:13:47.063>laat <01:13:47.529>net <01:13:47.995>al 01:13:48.310 --> 01:13:48.320 align:start position:0% leun na vryheid en laat net al 01:13:48.320 --> 01:13:49.510 align:start position:0% leun 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position:0% 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:02.470 align:start position:0% die <01:13:59.160>wetenskap <01:13:59.360>wat <01:13:59.560>deur <01:13:59.760>groot <01:13:59.960>farmaseutiese <01:14:00.160>medisyne <01:14:00.360>befonds <01:14:00.560>word, <01:14:00.760>te <01:14:00.960>beveg 01:14:02.470 --> 01:14:02.480 align:start position:0% die wetenskap wat deur groot farmaseutiese medisyne befonds word, te beveg 01:14:02.480 --> 01:14:05.350 align:start position:0% die wetenskap wat deur groot farmaseutiese medisyne befonds word, te beveg of <01:14:02.754>is <01:14:03.028>wat <01:14:03.302>meer <01:14:03.576>skade <01:14:03.850>doen <01:14:04.124>as <01:14:04.398>goed 01:14:05.350 --> 01:14:05.360 align:start position:0% of is wat meer skade doen as goed 01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:07.270 align:start position:0% of is wat meer skade doen as goed om <01:14:05.653>te <01:14:05.946>veel <01:14:06.239>stemme <01:14:06.532>te <01:14:06.825>hê <01:14:07.118>wat 01:14:07.270 --> 01:14:07.280 align:start position:0% om te veel stemme te hê wat 01:14:07.280 --> 01:14:09.350 align:start position:0% om te veel stemme te hê wat hier <01:14:07.680>meeding <01:14:08.080>moet <01:14:08.480>die <01:14:08.880>uiteindelike 01:14:09.350 --> 01:14:09.360 align:start position:0% hier meeding moet die uiteindelike 01:14:09.360 --> 01:14:12.550 align:start position:0% hier meeding moet die uiteindelike stryd <01:14:09.680>geveg <01:14:10.000>word <01:14:10.320>in <01:14:10.640>die <01:14:10.960>ruimte <01:14:11.280>van <01:14:11.600>uh 01:14:12.550 --> 01:14:12.560 align:start position:0% stryd geveg word in die ruimte van uh 01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:15.110 align:start position:0% stryd geveg word in die ruimte van uh wetenskaplike <01:14:13.199>publikasies 01:14:15.110 --> 01:14:15.120 align:start position:0% wetenskaplike publikasies 01:14:15.120 --> 01:14:19.350 align:start position:0% wetenskaplike publikasies en <01:14:15.577>veral <01:14:16.034>in <01:14:16.491>die <01:14:16.948>uh 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<01:14:44.000>as <01:14:44.320>'n <01:14:44.640>oop <01:14:44.960>internet <01:14:45.280>waar 01:14:45.830 --> 01:14:45.840 align:start position:0% wat anders is as 'n oop internet waar 01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.070 align:start position:0% wat anders is as 'n oop internet waar wie <01:14:46.064>ook <01:14:46.288>al <01:14:46.512>die <01:14:46.736>hardste <01:14:46.960>skree 01:14:48.070 --> 01:14:48.080 align:start position:0% wie ook al die hardste skree 01:14:48.080 --> 01:14:50.310 align:start position:0% wie ook al die hardste skree die <01:14:48.440>meeste <01:14:48.800>klikke <01:14:49.160>kry <01:14:49.520>en 01:14:50.310 --> 01:14:50.320 align:start position:0% die meeste klikke kry en 01:14:50.320 --> 01:14:53.110 align:start position:0% die meeste klikke kry en die <01:14:50.760>uh <01:14:51.200>woede <01:14:51.640>skep <01:14:52.080>waarde <01:14:52.520>op <01:14:52.960>die 01:14:53.110 --> 01:14:53.120 align:start position:0% die uh woede skep waarde op die 01:14:53.120 --> 01:14:54.149 align:start position:0% die uh woede skep waarde op die internet 01:14:54.149 --> 01:14:54.159 align:start position:0% internet 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.550 align:start position:0% internet ek <01:14:54.467>dink <01:14:54.775>dit <01:14:55.083>is <01:14:55.391>nie <01:14:55.699>'n <01:14:56.007>goeie <01:14:56.315>meganisme 01:14:56.550 --> 01:14:56.560 align:start position:0% ek dink dit is nie 'n goeie meganisme 01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.149 align:start position:0% ek dink dit is nie 'n goeie meganisme om <01:14:56.672>dit <01:14:56.784>uit <01:14:56.896>te <01:14:57.008>werk <01:14:57.120>nie 01:14:58.149 --> 01:14:58.159 align:start position:0% om dit uit te werk nie 01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:00.149 align:start position:0% om dit uit te werk nie en <01:14:58.327>ek <01:14:58.495>dink <01:14:58.663>nie <01:14:58.831>ons <01:14:58.999>het <01:14:59.167>een <01:14:59.335>nie, <01:14:59.503>ek <01:14:59.671>het <01:14:59.839>nie 01:15:00.149 --> 01:15:00.159 align:start position:0% en ek dink nie ons het een nie, ek het nie 01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:02.950 align:start position:0% en ek dink nie ons het een nie, ek het nie 'n <01:15:00.465>oplossing <01:15:00.771>hiervoor <01:15:01.077>nie, <01:15:01.383>ek <01:15:01.689>bedoel <01:15:01.995>ideaal 01:15:02.950 --> 01:15:02.960 align:start position:0% 'n oplossing hiervoor nie, ek bedoel ideaal 01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.270 align:start position:0% 'n oplossing hiervoor nie, ek bedoel ideaal as <01:15:03.248>ons <01:15:03.536>'n <01:15:03.824>filosoofkoning <01:15:04.112>gehad <01:15:04.400>het 01:15:05.270 --> 01:15:05.280 align:start position:0% as ons 'n filosoofkoning gehad het 01:15:05.280 --> 01:15:06.950 align:start position:0% as ons 'n filosoofkoning gehad het het <01:15:05.920>' 01:15:06.950 --> 01:15:06.960 align:start position:0% het ' 01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:10.070 align:start position:0% het ' n <01:15:07.540>paneel <01:15:08.120>mense <01:15:08.700>wat <01:15:09.280>nie 01:15:10.070 --> 01:15:10.080 align:start position:0% n paneel mense wat nie 01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:13.910 align:start position:0% n paneel mense wat nie deur <01:15:10.373>rigiede <01:15:10.666>opinies <01:15:10.959>in <01:15:11.252>stryd <01:15:11.545>was <01:15:11.838>nie, 01:15:13.910 --> 01:15:13.920 align:start position:0% deur rigiede opinies in stryd was nie, 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:15.830 align:start position:0% deur rigiede opinies in stryd was nie, besluit <01:15:14.719>oor 01:15:15.830 --> 01:15:15.840 align:start position:0% besluit oor 01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:17.990 align:start position:0% besluit oor wat <01:15:16.144>die <01:15:16.448>grense <01:15:16.752>van <01:15:17.056>openbare <01:15:17.360>diskoers 01:15:17.990 --> 01:15:18.000 align:start position:0% wat die grense van openbare diskoers 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.510 align:start position:0% wat die grense van openbare diskoers kan <01:15:18.239>wees, 01:15:19.510 --> 01:15:19.520 align:start position:0% kan wees, 01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:21.830 align:start position:0% kan wees, ek <01:15:19.759>dink <01:15:19.998>nie <01:15:20.237>dit <01:15:20.476>moet <01:15:20.715>heeltemal <01:15:20.954>oop <01:15:21.193>wees <01:15:21.432>nie, <01:15:21.671>ek 01:15:21.830 --> 01:15:21.840 align:start position:0% ek dink nie dit moet heeltemal oop wees nie, ek 01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:25.270 align:start position:0% ek dink nie dit moet heeltemal oop wees nie, ek dink <01:15:22.260>nie <01:15:22.680>mense <01:15:23.100>wat <01:15:23.520>maak 01:15:25.270 --> 01:15:25.280 align:start position:0% dink nie mense wat maak 01:15:25.280 --> 01:15:27.590 align:start position:0% dink nie mense wat maak wat <01:15:25.567>verbind <01:15:25.854>is <01:15:26.141>tot <01:15:26.428>'n <01:15:26.715>anti- 01:15:27.590 --> 01:15:27.600 align:start position:0% wat verbind is tot 'n anti- 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:29.590 align:start position:0% wat verbind is tot 'n anti- entstofposisie <01:15:28.020>nie <01:15:28.440>en <01:15:28.860>sal <01:15:29.280>hul 01:15:29.590 --> 01:15:29.600 align:start position:0% entstofposisie nie en sal hul 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:32.229 align:start position:0% entstofposisie nie en sal hul interpretasie <01:15:30.266>van <01:15:30.932>komplekse <01:15:31.598>wetenskaplike 01:15:32.229 --> 01:15:32.239 align:start position:0% interpretasie van komplekse wetenskaplike 01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.790 align:start position:0% interpretasie van komplekse wetenskaplike data <01:15:32.425>aanpas <01:15:32.611>om <01:15:32.797>hul <01:15:32.983>opinie <01:15:33.169>te <01:15:33.355>ondersteun, 01:15:34.790 --> 01:15:34.800 align:start position:0% data aanpas om hul opinie te ondersteun, 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:36.709 align:start position:0% data aanpas om hul opinie te ondersteun, ek <01:15:34.933>dink <01:15:35.066>dit <01:15:35.199>kan <01:15:35.332>skadelik <01:15:35.465>wees <01:15:35.598>deur 01:15:36.709 --> 01:15:36.719 align:start position:0% ek dink dit kan skadelik wees deur 01:15:36.719 --> 01:15:38.470 align:start position:0% ek dink dit kan skadelik wees deur hul <01:15:36.991>spraak <01:15:37.263>te <01:15:37.535>beperk <01:15:37.807>kan <01:15:38.079>ook 01:15:38.470 --> 01:15:38.480 align:start position:0% hul spraak te beperk kan ook 01:15:38.480 --> 01:15:41.110 align:start position:0% hul spraak te beperk kan ook skadelik <01:15:38.693>wees, <01:15:38.906>so <01:15:39.119>ek <01:15:39.332>het <01:15:39.545>nie <01:15:39.758>'n <01:15:39.971>antwoord <01:15:40.184>hier <01:15:40.397>nie, 01:15:41.110 --> 01:15:41.120 align:start position:0% skadelik wees, so ek het nie 'n antwoord hier nie, 01:15:41.120 --> 01:15:44.550 align:start position:0% skadelik wees, so ek het nie 'n antwoord hier nie, maar <01:15:41.400>ja, <01:15:41.680>ek <01:15:41.960>is <01:15:42.240>geneig <01:15:42.520>om <01:15:42.800>te <01:15:43.080>glo <01:15:43.360>dat 01:15:44.550 --> 01:15:44.560 align:start position:0% maar ja, ek is geneig om te glo dat 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.830 align:start position:0% maar ja, ek is geneig om te glo dat dit <01:15:45.040>gevaarliker <01:15:45.520>is <01:15:46.000>om <01:15:46.480>teen- <01:15:46.960>vaxx- 01:15:47.830 --> 01:15:47.840 align:start position:0% dit gevaarliker is om teen- vaxx- 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:49.189 align:start position:0% dit gevaarliker is om teen- vaxx- boodskappe 01:15:49.189 --> 01:15:49.199 align:start position:0% boodskappe 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:51.110 align:start position:0% boodskappe die <01:15:49.479>manier <01:15:49.759>om 01:15:51.110 --> 01:15:51.120 align:start position:0% die manier om 01:15:51.120 --> 01:15:53.270 align:start position:0% die manier om anti-vaxx-boodskappe <01:15:51.480>te <01:15:51.840>verslaan, 01:15:53.270 --> 01:15:53.280 align:start position:0% anti-vaxx-boodskappe te verslaan, 01:15:53.280 --> 01:15:56.550 align:start position:0% anti-vaxx-boodskappe te verslaan, is <01:15:53.536>om <01:15:53.792>uitstekende <01:15:54.048>kommunikeerders <01:15:54.304>te <01:15:54.560>wees 01:15:56.550 --> 01:15:56.560 align:start position:0% is om uitstekende kommunikeerders te wees 01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.950 align:start position:0% is om uitstekende kommunikeerders te wees om <01:15:56.839>uitstekende <01:15:57.118>wetenskaplike <01:15:57.397>kommunikeerders <01:15:57.676>te <01:15:57.955>wees, <01:15:58.234>so 01:15:58.950 --> 01:15:58.960 align:start position:0% om uitstekende wetenskaplike kommunikeerders te wees, so 01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:01.990 align:start position:0% om uitstekende wetenskaplike kommunikeerders te wees, so dit <01:15:59.279>is <01:15:59.598>nie <01:15:59.917>dat <01:16:00.236>ons 01:16:01.990 --> 01:16:02.000 align:start position:0% dit is nie dat ons 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:03.990 align:start position:0% dit is nie dat ons die <01:16:02.115>dinge <01:16:02.230>wat <01:16:02.345>ons <01:16:02.460>nie <01:16:02.575>van <01:16:02.690>hou <01:16:02.805>nie <01:16:02.920>moet <01:16:03.035>sensor, 01:16:03.990 --> 01:16:04.000 align:start position:0% die dinge wat ons nie van hou nie moet sensor, 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.630 align:start position:0% die dinge wat ons nie van hou nie moet sensor, ons <01:16:05.120>moet 01:16:06.630 --> 01:16:06.640 align:start position:0% ons moet 01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:09.189 align:start position:0% ons moet die <01:16:06.846>dinge <01:16:07.052>wat <01:16:07.258>ons <01:16:07.464>doen <01:16:07.670>of <01:16:07.876>die <01:16:08.082>dinge <01:16:08.288>waarvan <01:16:08.494>ons <01:16:08.700>hou, <01:16:08.906>beter <01:16:09.112>kommunikeer 01:16:09.189 --> 01:16:09.199 align:start position:0% die dinge wat ons doen of die dinge waarvan ons hou, beter kommunikeer 01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.830 align:start position:0% die dinge wat ons doen of die dinge waarvan ons hou, beter kommunikeer glo <01:16:09.679>verteenwoordig <01:16:10.159>die <01:16:10.639>' 01:16:11.830 --> 01:16:11.840 align:start position:0% glo verteenwoordig die ' 01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:13.830 align:start position:0% glo verteenwoordig die ' n <01:16:12.213>diep <01:16:12.586>wetenskaplike <01:16:12.959>waarheid, 01:16:13.830 --> 01:16:13.840 align:start position:0% n diep wetenskaplike waarheid, 01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:15.350 align:start position:0% n diep wetenskaplike waarheid, 01:16:15.350 --> 01:16:15.360 align:start position:0% 01:16:15.360 --> 01:16:17.189 align:start position:0% want <01:16:15.759>ek <01:16:16.158>dink 01:16:17.189 --> 01:16:17.199 align:start position:0% want ek dink 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.669 align:start position:0% want ek dink as <01:16:17.439>jy <01:16:17.679>sensor <01:16:17.919>word <01:16:18.159>jy <01:16:18.399>slegter <01:16:18.639>om <01:16:18.879>wetenskap <01:16:19.119>te <01:16:19.359>doen 01:16:19.669 --> 01:16:19.679 align:start position:0% as jy sensor word jy slegter om wetenskap te doen 01:16:19.679 --> 01:16:22.149 align:start position:0% as jy sensor word jy slegter om wetenskap te doen 01:16:22.149 --> 01:16:22.159 align:start position:0% 01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:27.189 align:start position:0% en <01:16:22.492>jy <01:16:22.825>gee <01:16:23.158>die <01:16:23.491>verkeerde <01:16:23.824>mense <01:16:24.157>mag 01:16:27.189 --> 01:16:27.199 align:start position:0% 01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:30.149 align:start position:0% so <01:16:27.479>ek <01:16:27.759>is <01:16:28.039>geneig <01:16:28.319>om <01:16:28.599>te <01:16:28.879>glo <01:16:29.159>dat <01:16:29.439>jy <01:16:29.719>mag <01:16:29.999>moet 01:16:30.149 --> 01:16:30.159 align:start position:0% so ek is geneig om te glo dat jy mag moet 01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:33.350 align:start position:0% so ek is geneig om te glo dat jy mag moet gee <01:16:30.579>aan <01:16:30.999>die <01:16:31.419>individuele <01:16:31.839>wetenskaplikes 01:16:33.350 --> 01:16:33.360 align:start position:0% gee aan die individuele wetenskaplikes 01:16:33.360 --> 01:16:35.830 align:start position:0% gee aan die individuele wetenskaplikes en <01:16:33.823>gee <01:16:34.286>hulle <01:16:34.749>ook <01:16:35.212>die <01:16:35.675>verantwoordelikheid 01:16:35.830 --> 01:16:35.840 align:start position:0% en gee hulle ook die verantwoordelikheid 01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:38.870 align:start position:0% en gee hulle ook die verantwoordelikheid om <01:16:36.176>beter <01:16:36.512>opvoeders <01:16:36.848>te <01:16:37.184>wees, <01:16:37.520>kommunikeerders 01:16:38.870 --> 01:16:38.880 align:start position:0% om beter opvoeders te wees, kommunikeerders 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.590 align:start position:0% om beter opvoeders te wees, kommunikeerders wat <01:16:39.440>wetenskaplike <01:16:40.000>idees <01:16:40.560>uitdruk, 01:16:41.590 --> 01:16:41.600 align:start position:0% wat wetenskaplike idees uitdruk, 01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:43.510 align:start position:0% wat wetenskaplike idees uitdruk, plaas <01:16:41.851>druk <01:16:42.102>op <01:16:42.353>hulle <01:16:42.604>om <01:16:42.855>data <01:16:43.106>vry <01:16:43.357>te 01:16:43.510 --> 01:16:43.520 align:start position:0% plaas druk op hulle om data vry te 01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:46.070 align:start position:0% plaas druk op hulle om data vry te stel <01:16:43.709>om <01:16:43.898>daardie <01:16:44.087>data <01:16:44.276>vry <01:16:44.465>te <01:16:44.654>stel <01:16:44.843>op <01:16:45.032>'n <01:16:45.221>manier <01:16:45.410>wat <01:16:45.599>maklik 01:16:46.070 --> 01:16:46.080 align:start position:0% stel om daardie data vry te stel op 'n manier wat maklik 01:16:46.080 --> 01:16:48.470 align:start position:0% stel om daardie data vry te stel op 'n manier wat maklik verbruikbaar <01:16:46.413>is, <01:16:46.746>nie <01:16:47.079>net <01:16:47.412>soos <01:16:47.745>baie <01:16:48.078>moeilik 01:16:48.470 --> 01:16:48.480 align:start position:0% verbruikbaar is, nie net soos baie moeilik 01:16:48.480 --> 01:16:50.229 align:start position:0% verbruikbaar is, nie net soos baie moeilik om <01:16:48.657>te <01:16:48.834>verstaan <01:16:49.011>nie, <01:16:49.188>maar <01:16:49.365>op <01:16:49.542>'n <01:16:49.719>manier <01:16:49.896>wat <01:16:50.073>verst 01:16:50.229 --> 01:16:50.239 align:start position:0% om te verstaan nie, maar op 'n manier wat verst 01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:52.390 align:start position:0% om te verstaan nie, maar op 'n manier wat verst an <01:16:50.444>kan <01:16:50.649>word <01:16:50.854>deur <01:16:51.059>'n <01:16:51.264>groot <01:16:51.469>aantal <01:16:51.674>mense, 01:16:52.390 --> 01:16:52.400 align:start position:0% an kan word deur 'n groot aantal mense, 01:16:52.400 --> 01:16:54.950 align:start position:0% an kan word deur 'n groot aantal mense, so <01:16:52.742>die <01:16:53.084>stryd <01:16:53.426>moet <01:16:53.768>geveg <01:16:54.110>word <01:16:54.452>in <01:16:54.794>die 01:16:54.950 --> 01:16:54.960 align:start position:0% so die stryd moet geveg word in die 01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.110 align:start position:0% so die stryd moet geveg word in die oop <01:16:55.253>ruimte <01:16:55.546>van <01:16:55.839>idees 01:16:57.110 --> 01:16:57.120 align:start position:0% oop ruimte van idees 01:16:57.120 --> 01:16:59.270 align:start position:0% oop ruimte van idees teenoor 01:16:59.270 --> 01:16:59.280 align:start position:0% teenoor 01:16:59.280 --> 01:17:01.110 align:start position:0% teenoor in <01:16:59.479>die <01:16:59.678>stil 01:17:01.110 --> 01:17:01.120 align:start position:0% in die stil 01:17:01.120 --> 01:17:04.149 align:start position:0% in die stil ruimte <01:17:01.450>van <01:17:01.780>joernale, <01:17:02.110>ek <01:17:02.440>dink <01:17:02.770>ons <01:17:03.100>het <01:17:03.430>nie <01:17:03.760>meer 01:17:04.149 --> 01:17:04.159 align:start position:0% ruimte van joernale, ek dink ons het nie meer 01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:05.910 align:start position:0% ruimte van joernale, ek dink ons het nie meer aardie <01:17:04.345>gemak <01:17:04.531>nie, <01:17:04.717>veral 01:17:05.910 --> 01:17:05.920 align:start position:0% aardie gemak nie, veral 01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.310 align:start position:0% aardie gemak nie, veral by <01:17:06.367>die <01:17:06.814>hoogste <01:17:07.261>belang, <01:17:07.708>so <01:17:08.155>hierd 01:17:08.310 --> 01:17:08.320 align:start position:0% by die hoogste belang, so hierd 01:17:08.320 --> 01:17:10.070 align:start position:0% by die hoogste belang, so hierd e <01:17:08.537>soort <01:17:08.754>idee <01:17:08.971>wat <01:17:09.188>'n <01:17:09.405>paar <01:17:09.622>eweknieë <01:17:09.839>beoordelaars 01:17:10.070 --> 01:17:10.080 align:start position:0% e soort idee wat 'n paar eweknieë beoordelaars 01:17:10.080 --> 01:17:11.590 align:start position:0% e soort idee wat 'n paar eweknieë beoordelaars 01:17:11.590 --> 01:17:11.600 align:start position:0% 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.870 align:start position:0% besluit <01:17:12.060>die <01:17:12.520>lot <01:17:12.980>van <01:17:13.440>miljarde 01:17:14.870 --> 01:17:14.880 align:start position:0% besluit die lot van miljarde 01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:15.830 align:start position:0% besluit die lot van miljarde is 01:17:15.830 --> 01:17:15.840 align:start position:0% is 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:18.870 align:start position:0% is dit <01:17:16.106>blyk <01:17:16.372>nie <01:17:16.638>volhoubaar <01:17:16.904>te <01:17:17.170>wees <01:17:17.436>nie, 01:17:18.870 --> 01:17:18.880 align:start position:0% dit blyk nie volhoubaar te wees nie, 01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:22.470 align:start position:0% dit blyk nie volhoubaar te wees nie, veral <01:17:19.540>gegewe <01:17:20.200>'n <01:17:20.860>baie <01:17:21.520>werklike 01:17:22.470 --> 01:17:22.480 align:start position:0% veral gegewe 'n baie werklike 01:17:22.480 --> 01:17:24.070 align:start position:0% veral gegewe 'n baie werklike waarneming <01:17:23.280>nou 01:17:24.070 --> 01:17:26.470 align:start position:0% waarneming nou 01:17:26.470 --> 01:17:26.480 align:start position:0% 01:17:26.480 --> 01:17:28.390 align:start position:0% dat <01:17:26.773>die <01:17:27.066>rede <01:17:27.359>waarom <01:17:27.652>Robert <01:17:27.945>Malone <01:17:28.238>'n 01:17:28.390 --> 01:17:28.400 align:start position:0% dat die rede waarom Robert Malone 'n 01:17:28.400 --> 01:17:30.709 align:start position:0% dat die rede waarom Robert Malone 'n groot <01:17:28.600>aanhang <01:17:28.800>het, 01:17:30.709 --> 01:17:30.719 align:start position:0% groot aanhang het, 01:17:30.719 --> 01:17:32.149 align:start position:0% groot aanhang het, is <01:17:30.932>dat <01:17:31.145>daar <01:17:31.358>'n <01:17:31.571>diep <01:17:31.784>wantroue <01:17:31.997>in 01:17:32.149 --> 01:17:32.159 align:start position:0% is dat daar 'n diep wantroue in 01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:33.830 align:start position:0% is dat daar 'n diep wantroue in instellings <01:17:32.412>is <01:17:32.665>wat <01:17:32.918>diep <01:17:33.171>benoud <01:17:33.424>is <01:17:33.677>die 01:17:33.830 --> 01:17:33.840 align:start position:0% instellings is wat diep benoud is die 01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:37.669 align:start position:0% instellings is wat diep benoud is die wetenskaplikes <01:17:34.226>van <01:17:34.612>die <01:17:34.998>wetenskap <01:17:35.384>as <01:17:35.770>'n <01:17:36.156>instelling 01:17:37.669 --> 01:17:37.679 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes van die wetenskap as 'n instelling 01:17:37.679 --> 01:17:40.630 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes van die wetenskap as 'n instelling van <01:17:38.127>uh <01:17:38.575>kragsentrums <01:17:39.023>van <01:17:39.471>maatskappye <01:17:39.919>van 01:17:40.630 --> 01:17:40.640 align:start position:0% van uh kragsentrums van maatskappye van 01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:43.910 align:start position:0% van uh kragsentrums van maatskappye van van <01:17:41.264>alles <01:17:41.888>en <01:17:42.512>miskien <01:17:43.136>tereg <01:17:43.760>maar 01:17:43.910 --> 01:17:43.920 align:start position:0% van alles en miskien tereg maar 01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:45.750 align:start position:0% van alles en miskien tereg maar die <01:17:44.160>manier <01:17:44.400>om <01:17:44.640>daarteen <01:17:44.880>te <01:17:45.120>verdedig <01:17:45.360>is <01:17:45.600>nie 01:17:45.750 --> 01:17:45.760 align:start position:0% die manier om daarteen te verdedig is nie 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:47.030 align:start position:0% die manier om daarteen te verdedig is nie vir <01:17:45.866>die <01:17:45.972>magtiges <01:17:46.078>nie 01:17:47.030 --> 01:17:47.040 align:start position:0% vir die magtiges nie 01:17:47.040 --> 01:17:49.669 align:start position:0% vir die magtiges nie om <01:17:47.253>'n <01:17:47.466>groter <01:17:47.679>muur <01:17:47.892>te <01:17:48.105>bou, <01:17:48.318>is 01:17:49.669 --> 01:17:49.679 align:start position:0% om 'n groter muur te bou, is 01:17:49.679 --> 01:17:52.070 align:start position:0% om 'n groter muur te bou, is dit <01:17:49.839>vir <01:17:49.999>die <01:17:50.159>magtiges <01:17:50.319>om <01:17:50.479>outentiek <01:17:50.639>te <01:17:50.799>wees 01:17:52.070 --> 01:17:52.080 align:start position:0% dit vir die magtiges om outentiek te wees 01:17:52.080 --> 01:17:53.350 align:start position:0% dit vir die magtiges om outentiek te wees 01:17:53.350 --> 01:17:53.360 align:start position:0% 01:17:53.360 --> 01:17:55.669 align:start position:0% en <01:17:53.543>miskien <01:17:53.726>baie <01:17:53.909>van <01:17:54.092>hulle <01:17:54.275>te <01:17:54.458>doen <01:17:54.641>om <01:17:54.824>afgedank <01:17:55.007>te <01:17:55.190>word 01:17:55.669 --> 01:17:55.679 align:start position:0% en miskien baie van hulle te doen om afgedank te word 01:17:55.679 --> 01:17:57.990 align:start position:0% en miskien baie van hulle te doen om afgedank te word en <01:17:55.999>vir <01:17:56.319>nuwe <01:17:56.639>gedagtes <01:17:56.959>vir <01:17:57.279>nuwe <01:17:57.599>vars 01:17:57.990 --> 01:17:58.000 align:start position:0% en vir nuwe gedagtes vir nuwe vars 01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.189 align:start position:0% en vir nuwe gedagtes vir nuwe vars wetenskaplikes 01:17:59.189 --> 01:17:59.199 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes 01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:01.750 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes uh <01:17:59.507>diegene <01:17:59.815>wat <01:18:00.123>meer <01:18:00.431>outentiek <01:18:00.739>is, <01:18:01.047>meer <01:18:01.355>werklik 01:18:01.750 --> 01:18:01.760 align:start position:0% uh diegene wat meer outentiek is, meer werklik 01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:03.910 align:start position:0% uh diegene wat meer outentiek is, meer werklik beter <01:18:02.047>kommunikeerders <01:18:02.334>om <01:18:02.621>op <01:18:02.908>te <01:18:03.195>tree, 01:18:03.910 --> 01:18:03.920 align:start position:0% beter kommunikeerders om op te tree, 01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:07.750 align:start position:0% beter kommunikeerders om op te tree, so <01:18:04.333>ek <01:18:04.746>vrees <01:18:05.159>ek <01:18:05.572>vrees <01:18:05.985>sensuur <01:18:06.398>want 01:18:07.750 --> 01:18:07.760 align:start position:0% so ek vrees ek vrees sensuur want 01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:09.270 align:start position:0% so ek vrees ek vrees sensuur want dit <01:18:08.040>voel <01:18:08.320>of 01:18:09.270 --> 01:18:09.280 align:start position:0% dit voel of 01:18:09.280 --> 01:18:12.390 align:start position:0% dit voel of sensuur <01:18:09.567>'n <01:18:09.854>selfs <01:18:10.141>moeiliker <01:18:10.428>werk <01:18:10.715>is <01:18:11.002>om <01:18:11.289>dit <01:18:11.576>goed <01:18:11.863>te <01:18:12.150>doen 01:18:12.390 --> 01:18:12.400 align:start position:0% sensuur 'n selfs moeiliker werk is om dit goed te doen 01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:13.830 align:start position:0% sensuur 'n selfs moeiliker werk is om dit goed te doen 01:18:13.830 --> 01:18:13.840 align:start position:0% 01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:15.110 align:start position:0% as 01:18:15.110 --> 01:18:15.120 align:start position:0% as 01:18:15.120 --> 01:18:17.350 align:start position:0% as om <01:18:15.394>goeie <01:18:15.668>kommunikeerders <01:18:15.942>te <01:18:16.216>wees <01:18:16.490>en <01:18:16.764>dit <01:18:17.038>lyk 01:18:17.350 --> 01:18:17.360 align:start position:0% om goeie kommunikeerders te wees en dit lyk 01:18:17.360 --> 01:18:19.430 align:start position:0% om goeie kommunikeerders te wees en dit lyk of <01:18:17.680>dit <01:18:18.000>altyd <01:18:18.320>die <01:18:18.640>c-studente <01:18:18.960>is <01:18:19.280>wat 01:18:19.430 --> 01:18:19.440 align:start position:0% of dit altyd die c-studente is wat 01:18:19.440 --> 01:18:21.270 align:start position:0% of dit altyd die c-studente is wat uiteindelik <01:18:19.626>die <01:18:19.812>sensuur <01:18:19.998>doen 01:18:21.270 --> 01:18:21.280 align:start position:0% uiteindelik die sensuur doen 01:18:21.280 --> 01:18:23.110 align:start position:0% uiteindelik die sensuur doen dat <01:18:21.533>dit <01:18:21.786>is <01:18:22.039>asof <01:18:22.292>dit <01:18:22.545>altyd <01:18:22.798>die 01:18:23.110 --> 01:18:23.120 align:start position:0% dat dit is asof dit altyd die 01:18:23.120 --> 01:18:25.669 align:start position:0% dat dit is asof dit altyd die onbevoegde <01:18:23.520>mense <01:18:23.920>is <01:18:24.320>en <01:18:24.720>nie <01:18:25.120>net <01:18:25.520>die 01:18:25.669 --> 01:18:25.679 align:start position:0% onbevoegde mense is en nie net die 01:18:25.679 --> 01:18:27.030 align:start position:0% onbevoegde mense is en nie net die onbevoegde nie, 01:18:27.030 --> 01:18:27.040 align:start position:0% onbevoegde nie, 01:18:27.040 --> 01:18:29.350 align:start position:0% onbevoegde nie, maar <01:18:27.386>die <01:18:27.732>grootste <01:18:28.078>kerm <01:18:28.424>so <01:18:28.770>soos <01:18:29.116>wat 01:18:29.350 --> 01:18:29.360 align:start position:0% maar die grootste kerm so soos wat 01:18:29.360 --> 01:18:31.030 align:start position:0% maar die grootste kerm so soos wat gebeur, <01:18:29.760>is 01:18:31.030 --> 01:18:31.040 align:start position:0% gebeur, is 01:18:31.040 --> 01:18:33.030 align:start position:0% gebeur, is die <01:18:31.600>mense 01:18:33.030 --> 01:18:33.040 align:start position:0% die mense 01:18:33.040 --> 01:18:33.910 align:start position:0% die mense 01:18:33.910 --> 01:18:33.920 align:start position:0% 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:35.910 align:start position:0% wat <01:18:34.148>die <01:18:34.376>meeste <01:18:34.604>emosioneel <01:18:34.832>raak <01:18:35.060>en <01:18:35.288>die <01:18:35.516>meeste 01:18:35.910 --> 01:18:35.920 align:start position:0% wat die meeste emosioneel raak en die meeste 01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:39.430 align:start position:0% wat die meeste emosioneel raak en die meeste woedend <01:18:36.260>die <01:18:36.600>sensuur <01:18:36.940>sal <01:18:37.280>dryf 01:18:39.430 --> 01:18:39.440 align:start position:0% woedend die sensuur sal dryf 01:18:39.440 --> 01:18:41.750 align:start position:0% woedend die sensuur sal dryf en <01:18:39.813>dit <01:18:40.186>lyk <01:18:40.559>nie <01:18:40.932>of <01:18:41.305>rede <01:18:41.678>'n 01:18:41.750 --> 01:18:41.760 align:start position:0% en dit lyk nie of rede 'n 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.149 align:start position:0% en dit lyk nie of rede 'n sensuur <01:18:42.180>dryf <01:18:42.600>wat <01:18:43.020>net <01:18:43.440>objektief 01:18:44.149 --> 01:18:44.159 align:start position:0% sensuur dryf wat net objektief 01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.550 align:start position:0% sensuur dryf wat net objektief waarneem <01:18:44.343>hoe <01:18:44.527>sensuur <01:18:44.711>in <01:18:44.895>hierdie <01:18:45.079>stroom <01:18:45.263>lyk <01:18:45.447>om <01:18:45.631>te <01:18:45.815>werk <01:18:45.999>nie, 01:18:46.550 --> 01:18:46.560 align:start position:0% waarneem hoe sensuur in hierdie stroom lyk om te werk nie, 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.110 align:start position:0% waarneem hoe sensuur in hierdie stroom lyk om te werk nie, so <01:18:47.120>daar <01:18:47.680>is <01:18:48.240>soveel <01:18:48.800>vorme 01:18:49.110 --> 01:18:49.120 align:start position:0% so daar is soveel vorme 01:18:49.120 --> 01:18:50.390 align:start position:0% so daar is soveel vorme van <01:18:49.199>sensuur 01:18:50.390 --> 01:18:50.400 align:start position:0% van sensuur 01:18:50.400 --> 01:18:51.830 align:start position:0% van sensuur jy <01:18:50.586>weet <01:18:50.772>jy <01:18:50.958>kyk <01:18:51.144>na <01:18:51.330>die <01:18:51.516>Sowjetunie 01:18:51.830 --> 01:18:51.840 align:start position:0% jy weet jy kyk na die Sowjetunie 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.229 align:start position:0% jy weet jy kyk na die Sowjetunie met <01:18:52.213>die <01:18:52.586>propaganda <01:18:52.959>of <01:18:53.332>nazi-Duitsland <01:18:53.705>is <01:18:54.078>'n 01:18:54.229 --> 01:18:54.239 align:start position:0% met die propaganda of nazi-Duitsland is 'n 01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:56.390 align:start position:0% met die propaganda of nazi-Duitsland is 'n heel <01:18:54.746>ander <01:18:55.253>vlak <01:18:55.760>sensuur 01:18:56.390 --> 01:18:56.400 align:start position:0% heel ander vlak sensuur 01:18:56.400 --> 01:18:58.310 align:start position:0% heel ander vlak sensuur mense <01:18:56.680>is <01:18:56.960>geneig <01:18:57.240>om <01:18:57.520>al <01:18:57.800>hierdie <01:18:58.080>ngs 01:18:58.310 --> 01:18:58.320 align:start position:0% mense is geneig om al hierdie ngs 01:18:58.320 --> 01:19:00.550 align:start position:0% mense is geneig om al hierdie ngs saam <01:18:58.672>julle <01:18:59.024>ken <01:18:59.376>sosiale <01:18:59.728>media <01:19:00.080>wat 01:19:00.550 --> 01:19:00.560 align:start position:0% saam julle ken sosiale media wat 01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.470 align:start position:0% saam julle ken sosiale media wat desperaat <01:19:01.119>probeer <01:19:01.678>om 01:19:02.470 --> 01:19:02.480 align:start position:0% desperaat probeer om 01:19:02.480 --> 01:19:03.830 align:start position:0% desperaat probeer om triljoene 01:19:03.830 --> 01:19:03.840 align:start position:0% triljoene 01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.630 align:start position:0% triljoene of <01:19:04.380>uh <01:19:04.920>honderde <01:19:05.460>biljoene <01:19:06.000>uitruilings 01:19:06.630 --> 01:19:06.640 align:start position:0% of uh honderde biljoene uitruilings 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:08.390 align:start position:0% of uh honderde biljoene uitruilings per <01:19:06.832>dag <01:19:07.024>te <01:19:07.216>hê <01:19:07.408>en <01:19:07.600>soos 01:19:08.390 --> 01:19:08.400 align:start position:0% per dag te hê en soos 01:19:08.400 --> 01:19:10.630 align:start position:0% per dag te hê en soos probeer <01:19:08.604>om <01:19:08.808>seker <01:19:09.012>te <01:19:09.216>maak <01:19:09.420>dat <01:19:09.624>hul <01:19:09.828>platform <01:19:10.032>die <01:19:10.236>een 01:19:10.630 --> 01:19:10.640 align:start position:0% probeer om seker te maak dat hul platform die een 01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:11.750 align:start position:0% probeer om seker te maak dat hul platform die een of <01:19:10.960>ander 01:19:11.750 --> 01:19:11.760 align:start position:0% of ander 01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:14.229 align:start position:0% of ander uh <01:19:12.060>skyn <01:19:12.360>het <01:19:12.660>van <01:19:12.960>soos 01:19:14.229 --> 01:19:14.239 align:start position:0% uh skyn het van soos 01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:17.189 align:start position:0% uh skyn het van soos gesonde <01:19:14.899>gesprekke <01:19:15.559>aanhaal <01:19:16.219>soos <01:19:16.879>mense 01:19:17.189 --> 01:19:17.199 align:start position:0% gesonde gesprekke aanhaal soos mense 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:19.110 align:start position:0% gesonde gesprekke aanhaal soos mense net <01:19:17.409>nie <01:19:17.619>mal <01:19:17.829>word <01:19:18.039>waarvan <01:19:18.249>hulle <01:19:18.459>eintlik <01:19:18.669>hou <01:19:18.879>nie 01:19:19.110 --> 01:19:19.120 align:start position:0% net nie mal word waarvan hulle eintlik hou nie 01:19:19.120 --> 01:19:20.790 align:start position:0% net nie mal word waarvan hulle eintlik hou nie met <01:19:19.220>behulp <01:19:19.320>van <01:19:19.420>die <01:19:19.520>platform 01:19:20.790 --> 01:19:20.800 align:start position:0% met behulp van die platform 01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.270 align:start position:0% met behulp van die platform en <01:19:21.066>hulle <01:19:21.332>sensor <01:19:21.598>op <01:19:21.864>grond <01:19:22.130>daarvan <01:19:22.396>dat 01:19:23.270 --> 01:19:23.280 align:start position:0% en hulle sensor op grond daarvan dat 01:19:23.280 --> 01:19:24.790 align:start position:0% en hulle sensor op grond daarvan dat dit <01:19:23.453>'n <01:19:23.626>ander <01:19:23.799>vlak <01:19:23.972>van <01:19:24.145>sensuur <01:19:24.318>is, 01:19:24.790 --> 01:19:24.800 align:start position:0% dit 'n ander vlak van sensuur is, 01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:26.310 align:start position:0% dit 'n ander vlak van sensuur is, maar <01:19:24.986>selfs <01:19:25.172>daar <01:19:25.358>kan 01:19:26.310 --> 01:19:26.320 align:start position:0% maar selfs daar kan 01:19:26.320 --> 01:19:28.630 align:start position:0% maar selfs daar kan jy <01:19:26.520>regtig <01:19:26.720>in <01:19:26.920>die <01:19:27.120>steek <01:19:27.320>gelaat <01:19:27.520>word <01:19:27.720>met <01:19:27.920>die <01:19:28.120>mense <01:19:28.320>wat 01:19:28.630 --> 01:19:28.640 align:start position:0% jy regtig in die steek gelaat word met die mense wat 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:30.070 align:start position:0% jy regtig in die steek gelaat word met die mense wat hulle <01:19:28.880>kry. 01:19:30.070 --> 01:19:32.870 align:start position:0% hulle kry. 01:19:32.870 --> 01:19:34.790 align:start position:0% 01:19:34.790 --> 01:19:37.189 align:start position:0% 01:19:37.189 --> 01:19:37.199 align:start position:0% 01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.350 align:start position:0% die <01:19:37.760>verantwoordelikheid 01:19:39.350 --> 01:19:39.360 align:start position:0% die verantwoordelikheid 01:19:39.360 --> 01:19:40.630 align:start position:0% die verantwoordelikheid op <01:19:39.600>die 01:19:40.630 --> 01:19:40.640 align:start position:0% op die 01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:42.950 align:start position:0% op die selfverklaarde <01:19:41.080>houers <01:19:41.520>van <01:19:41.960>waarheid, <01:19:42.400>oftewel 01:19:42.950 --> 01:19:42.960 align:start position:0% selfverklaarde houers van waarheid, oftewel 01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:46.630 align:start position:0% selfverklaarde houers van waarheid, oftewel wetenskaplikes <01:19:43.296>om <01:19:43.632>beter <01:19:43.968>kommunikeerders <01:19:44.304>te <01:19:44.640>wees, 01:19:46.630 --> 01:19:46.640 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes om beter kommunikeerders te wees, 01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:49.110 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes om beter kommunikeerders te wees, ek <01:19:46.946>stem <01:19:47.252>saam <01:19:47.558>dat <01:19:47.864>ek <01:19:48.170>nie <01:19:48.476>pleit 01:19:49.110 --> 01:19:49.120 align:start position:0% ek stem saam dat ek nie pleit 01:19:49.120 --> 01:19:52.550 align:start position:0% ek stem saam dat ek nie pleit vir <01:19:49.568>enige <01:19:50.016>soort <01:19:50.464>sensuur <01:19:50.912>nie, <01:19:51.360>maar 01:19:52.550 --> 01:19:52.560 align:start position:0% vir enige soort sensuur nie, maar 01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:55.510 align:start position:0% vir enige soort sensuur nie, maar uh <01:19:53.040>marshall <01:19:53.520>mcluhan <01:19:54.000>was <01:19:54.480>baie <01:19:54.960>invloedryk 01:19:55.510 --> 01:19:55.520 align:start position:0% uh marshall mcluhan was baie invloedryk 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:57.110 align:start position:0% uh marshall mcluhan was baie invloedryk toe <01:19:55.679>ek <01:19:55.838>op <01:19:55.997>universiteit <01:19:56.156>was 01:19:57.110 --> 01:19:57.120 align:start position:0% toe ek op universiteit was 01:19:57.120 --> 01:19:59.270 align:start position:0% toe ek op universiteit was en <01:19:57.679>sy <01:19:58.238>uh 01:19:59.270 --> 01:19:59.280 align:start position:0% en sy uh 01:19:59.280 --> 01:20:03.110 align:start position:0% en sy uh daardie <01:19:59.634>meme <01:19:59.988>uh <01:20:00.342>die <01:20:00.696>medium <01:20:01.050>is <01:20:01.404>die <01:20:01.758>boodskap 01:20:03.110 --> 01:20:03.120 align:start position:0% daardie meme uh die medium is die boodskap 01:20:03.120 --> 01:20:04.709 align:start position:0% daardie meme uh die medium is die boodskap dit <01:20:03.268>is <01:20:03.416>'n <01:20:03.564>bietjie <01:20:03.712>moeilik <01:20:03.860>om <01:20:04.008>te <01:20:04.156>verstaan 01:20:04.709 --> 01:20:04.719 align:start position:0% dit is 'n bietjie moeilik om te verstaan 01:20:04.719 --> 01:20:06.950 align:start position:0% dit is 'n bietjie moeilik om te verstaan radio <01:20:05.052>met <01:20:05.385>tv <01:20:05.718>vergelyk <01:20:06.051>en <01:20:06.384>sê <01:20:06.717>r 01:20:06.950 --> 01:20:06.960 align:start position:0% radio met tv vergelyk en sê r 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:09.030 align:start position:0% radio met tv vergelyk en sê r dio <01:20:07.245>is <01:20:07.530>warmer <01:20:07.815>of <01:20:08.100>tv's <01:20:08.385>warmer <01:20:08.670>of <01:20:08.955>iets 01:20:09.030 --> 01:20:09.040 align:start position:0% dio is warmer of tv's warmer of iets 01:20:09.040 --> 01:20:11.910 align:start position:0% dio is warmer of tv's warmer of iets nders <01:20:09.440>t <01:20:09.840>ons <01:20:10.240>het <01:20:10.640>nou <01:20:11.040>die <01:20:11.440>medium <01:20:11.840>as 01:20:11.910 --> 01:20:11.920 align:start position:0% nders t ons het nou die medium as 01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:13.830 align:start position:0% nders t ons het nou die medium as die <01:20:12.065>boodskap <01:20:12.210>op <01:20:12.355>'n <01:20:12.500>manier <01:20:12.645>wat <01:20:12.790>ons <01:20:12.935>nog <01:20:13.080>nooit <01:20:13.225>gesien <01:20:13.370>het <01:20:13.515>nie 01:20:13.830 --> 01:20:13.840 align:start position:0% die boodskap op 'n manier wat ons nog nooit gesien het nie 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:16.229 align:start position:0% die boodskap op 'n manier wat ons nog nooit gesien het nie , <01:20:14.080>ons <01:20:14.320>het <01:20:14.560>nog <01:20:14.800>nooit <01:20:15.040>voorheen <01:20:15.280>gedink 01:20:16.229 --> 01:20:16.239 align:start position:0% , ons het nog nooit voorheen gedink 01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:17.270 align:start position:0% , ons het nog nooit voorheen gedink waar 01:20:17.270 --> 01:20:17.280 align:start position:0% waar 01:20:17.280 --> 01:20:19.270 align:start position:0% waar woede <01:20:17.640>en <01:20:18.000>woede 01:20:19.270 --> 01:20:19.280 align:start position:0% woede en woede 01:20:19.280 --> 01:20:21.669 align:start position:0% woede en woede en <01:20:19.600>polarisasie 01:20:21.669 --> 01:20:21.679 align:start position:0% en polarisasie 01:20:21.679 --> 01:20:22.790 align:start position:0% en polarisasie uh 01:20:22.790 --> 01:20:22.800 align:start position:0% uh 01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:27.110 align:start position:0% uh is <01:20:23.320>wat <01:20:23.840>die <01:20:24.360>um <01:20:24.880>verkeer <01:20:25.400>op <01:20:25.920>die <01:20:26.440>internet <01:20:26.960>dryf 01:20:27.110 --> 01:20:27.120 align:start position:0% is wat die um verkeer op die internet dryf 01:20:27.120 --> 01:20:28.149 align:start position:0% is wat die um verkeer op die internet dryf 01:20:28.149 --> 01:20:28.159 align:start position:0% 01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:29.910 align:start position:0% en 01:20:29.910 --> 01:20:29.920 align:start position:0% en 01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:31.110 align:start position:0% en ons <01:20:30.320>nie 01:20:31.110 --> 01:20:31.120 align:start position:0% ons nie 01:20:31.120 --> 01:20:34.070 align:start position:0% ons nie dit <01:20:31.309>is <01:20:31.498>'n <01:20:31.687>kwessie <01:20:31.876>van <01:20:32.065>bou <01:20:32.254>die <01:20:32.443>gemeenskaplike <01:20:32.632>eiendom, 01:20:34.070 --> 01:20:34.080 align:start position:0% dit is 'n kwessie van bou die gemeenskaplike eiendom, 01:20:34.080 --> 01:20:36.229 align:start position:0% dit is 'n kwessie van bou die gemeenskaplike eiendom, ideaal, <01:20:34.264>ek <01:20:34.448>weet <01:20:34.632>nie <01:20:34.816>hoe <01:20:35.000>om <01:20:35.184>daar <01:20:35.368>te <01:20:35.552>kom <01:20:35.736>nie, <01:20:35.920>so 01:20:36.229 --> 01:20:36.239 align:start position:0% ideaal, ek weet nie hoe om daar te kom nie, so 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:38.310 align:start position:0% ideaal, ek weet nie hoe om daar te kom nie, so ek <01:20:36.354>gee <01:20:36.469>nie <01:20:36.584>voor <01:20:36.699>dat <01:20:36.814>ek <01:20:36.929>'n <01:20:37.044>oplossing <01:20:37.159>het <01:20:37.274>nie, 01:20:38.310 --> 01:20:38.320 align:start position:0% ek gee nie voor dat ek 'n oplossing het nie, 01:20:38.320 --> 01:20:40.709 align:start position:0% ek gee nie voor dat ek 'n oplossing het nie, maar <01:20:38.746>die <01:20:39.172>gemeenskaplike <01:20:39.598>diskoers 01:20:40.709 --> 01:20:40.719 align:start position:0% maar die gemeenskaplike diskoers 01:20:40.719 --> 01:20:42.390 align:start position:0% maar die gemeenskaplike diskoers oor <01:20:41.079>hierdie <01:20:41.439>spesifieke <01:20:41.799>kwessie <01:20:42.159>oor 01:20:42.390 --> 01:20:42.400 align:start position:0% oor hierdie spesifieke kwessie oor 01:20:42.400 --> 01:20:43.750 align:start position:0% oor hierdie spesifieke kwessie oor entstowwe 01:20:43.750 --> 01:20:43.760 align:start position:0% entstowwe 01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:46.470 align:start position:0% entstowwe is <01:20:44.260>grootliks <01:20:44.760>vernietig <01:20:45.260>deur <01:20:45.760>die 01:20:46.470 --> 01:20:46.480 align:start position:0% is grootliks vernietig deur die 01:20:46.480 --> 01:20:48.709 align:start position:0% is grootliks vernietig deur die kante <01:20:46.880>deur <01:20:47.280>die <01:20:47.680>medisynemaatskappye <01:20:48.080>en <01:20:48.480>die 01:20:48.709 --> 01:20:48.719 align:start position:0% kante deur die medisynemaatskappye en die 01:20:48.719 --> 01:20:51.189 align:start position:0% kante deur die medisynemaatskappye en die advokate <01:20:48.959>op <01:20:49.199>die <01:20:49.439>een <01:20:49.679>kant <01:20:49.919>en <01:20:50.159>die 01:20:51.189 --> 01:20:51.199 align:start position:0% advokate op die een kant en die 01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:54.310 align:start position:0% advokate op die een kant en die mense <01:20:51.719>wat <01:20:52.239>net <01:20:52.759>kritiseer <01:20:53.279>en 01:20:54.310 --> 01:20:54.320 align:start position:0% mense wat net kritiseer en 01:20:54.320 --> 01:20:55.750 align:start position:0% mense wat net kritiseer en dink <01:20:54.639>dat 01:20:55.750 --> 01:20:55.760 align:start position:0% dink dat 01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.709 align:start position:0% dink dat alhoewel <01:20:56.143>die <01:20:56.526>data <01:20:56.909>gebrekkig <01:20:57.292>is, <01:20:57.675>is 01:20:58.709 --> 01:20:58.719 align:start position:0% alhoewel die data gebrekkig is, is 01:20:58.719 --> 01:21:00.149 align:start position:0% alhoewel die data gebrekkig is, is daar <01:20:58.902>geen <01:20:59.085>manier <01:20:59.268>hoe <01:20:59.451>entstowwe <01:20:59.634>voordelig <01:20:59.817>kan <01:21:00.000>wees 01:21:00.149 --> 01:21:00.159 align:start position:0% daar geen manier hoe entstowwe voordelig kan wees 01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.310 align:start position:0% daar geen manier hoe entstowwe voordelig kan wees nie <01:21:00.465>en <01:21:00.771>om <01:21:01.077>daardie <01:21:01.383>mense <01:21:01.689>te <01:21:01.995>laat 01:21:02.310 --> 01:21:02.320 align:start position:0% nie en om daardie mense te laat 01:21:02.320 --> 01:21:04.070 align:start position:0% nie en om daardie mense te laat skree <01:21:02.680>op <01:21:03.040>mekaar 01:21:04.070 --> 01:21:04.080 align:start position:0% skree op mekaar 01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:06.470 align:start position:0% skree op mekaar doen <01:21:04.720>niks <01:21:05.360>om 01:21:06.470 --> 01:21:06.480 align:start position:0% doen niks om 01:21:06.480 --> 01:21:09.270 align:start position:0% doen niks om die <01:21:06.868>gesondheid <01:21:07.256>van <01:21:07.644>die <01:21:08.032>95 <01:21:08.420>persent <01:21:08.808>van <01:21:09.196>die 01:21:09.270 --> 01:21:09.280 align:start position:0% die gesondheid van die 95 persent van die 01:21:09.280 --> 01:21:10.709 align:start position:0% die gesondheid van die 95 persent van die mense <01:21:09.386>in <01:21:09.492>die <01:21:09.598>middel <01:21:09.704>te <01:21:09.810>verbeter <01:21:09.916>nie 01:21:10.709 --> 01:21:10.719 align:start position:0% mense in die middel te verbeter nie 01:21:10.719 --> 01:21:13.189 align:start position:0% mense in die middel te verbeter nie wie <01:21:12.400>wil 01:21:13.189 --> 01:21:13.199 align:start position:0% wie wil 01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:15.910 align:start position:0% wie wil weet <01:21:13.479>wat <01:21:13.759>die <01:21:14.039>rasionele <01:21:14.319>manier <01:21:14.599>is <01:21:14.879>om <01:21:15.159>vorentoe <01:21:15.439>te 01:21:15.910 --> 01:21:15.920 align:start position:0% weet wat die rasionele manier is om vorentoe te 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.550 align:start position:0% weet wat die rasionele manier is om vorentoe te gaan <01:21:16.217>en <01:21:16.514>hul <01:21:16.811>gesinne <01:21:17.108>te <01:21:17.405>beskerm <01:21:17.702>teen <01:21:17.999>covid 01:21:18.550 --> 01:21:18.560 align:start position:0% gaan en hul gesinne te beskerm teen covid 01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:19.350 align:start position:0% gaan en hul gesinne te beskerm teen covid en 01:21:19.350 --> 01:21:19.360 align:start position:0% en 01:21:19.360 --> 01:21:20.870 align:start position:0% en 'n <01:21:19.631>goeie <01:21:19.902>lewe <01:21:20.173>te <01:21:20.444>lei <01:21:20.715>en 01:21:20.870 --> 01:21:20.880 align:start position:0% 'n goeie lewe te lei en 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:23.590 align:start position:0% 'n goeie lewe te lei en in <01:21:21.160>die <01:21:21.440>ekonomie <01:21:21.720>te <01:21:22.000>kan <01:21:22.280>deelneem <01:21:22.560>en 01:21:23.590 --> 01:21:23.600 align:start position:0% in die ekonomie te kan deelneem en 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:25.110 align:start position:0% in die ekonomie te kan deelneem en dit <01:21:23.760>is <01:21:23.920>die <01:21:24.080>probleem, 01:21:25.110 --> 01:21:25.120 align:start position:0% dit is die probleem, 01:21:25.120 --> 01:21:26.790 align:start position:0% dit is die probleem, ek <01:21:25.348>het <01:21:25.576>nie <01:21:25.804>'n <01:21:26.032>oplossing <01:21:26.260>nie. <01:21:26.488>e's <01:21:26.716>'n 01:21:26.790 --> 01:21:26.800 align:start position:0% ek het nie 'n oplossing nie. e's 'n 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:28.790 align:start position:0% ek het nie 'n oplossing nie. e's 'n moeilike <01:21:27.167>probleem <01:21:27.534>vir <01:21:27.901>uh <01:21:28.268>spotify <01:21:28.635>en 01:21:28.790 --> 01:21:28.800 align:start position:0% moeilike probleem vir uh spotify en 01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:30.550 align:start position:0% moeilike probleem vir uh spotify en youtube <01:21:28.990>ek <01:21:29.180>weet <01:21:29.370>nie <01:21:29.560>of <01:21:29.750>jy <01:21:29.940>gehoor <01:21:30.130>het <01:21:30.320>dit 01:21:30.550 --> 01:21:30.560 align:start position:0% youtube ek weet nie of jy gehoor het dit 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.470 align:start position:0% youtube ek weet nie of jy gehoor het dit is <01:21:30.826>'n <01:21:31.092>ding <01:21:31.358>waardeur <01:21:31.624>joe <01:21:31.890>rogan <01:21:32.156>tans 01:21:32.470 --> 01:21:32.480 align:start position:0% is 'n ding waardeur joe rogan tans 01:21:32.480 --> 01:21:35.510 align:start position:0% is 'n ding waardeur joe rogan tans gaan <01:21:32.960>as <01:21:33.440>'n <01:21:33.920>platform <01:21:34.400>of <01:21:34.880>jy 01:21:35.510 --> 01:21:35.520 align:start position:0% gaan as 'n platform of jy 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:37.270 align:start position:0% gaan as 'n platform of jy die <01:21:35.973>gesprek <01:21:36.426>wat <01:21:36.879>bv 01:21:37.270 --> 01:21:37.280 align:start position:0% die gesprek wat bv 01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:39.030 align:start position:0% die gesprek wat bv joe <01:21:37.413>voer <01:21:37.546>moet <01:21:37.679>sensor 01:21:39.030 --> 01:21:39.040 align:start position:0% joe voer moet sensor 01:21:39.040 --> 01:21:40.470 align:start position:0% joe voer moet sensor so <01:21:39.151>ek <01:21:39.262>weet <01:21:39.373>nie <01:21:39.484>of <01:21:39.595>jy <01:21:39.706>gehoor <01:21:39.817>het <01:21:39.928>nie <01:21:40.039>maar <01:21:40.150>Neil 01:21:40.470 --> 01:21:40.480 align:start position:0% so ek weet nie of jy gehoor het nie maar Neil 01:21:40.480 --> 01:21:43.110 align:start position:0% so ek weet nie of jy gehoor het nie maar Neil Young <01:21:40.880>en <01:21:41.280>ander <01:21:41.680>musikante <01:21:42.080>het <01:21:42.480>soortvan 01:21:43.110 --> 01:21:43.120 align:start position:0% Young en ander musikante het soortvan 01:21:43.120 --> 01:21:44.870 align:start position:0% Young en ander musikante het soortvan uitgespreek <01:21:43.653>en <01:21:44.186>gesê <01:21:44.719>hulle 01:21:44.870 --> 01:21:44.880 align:start position:0% uitgespreek en gesê hulle 01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:47.750 align:start position:0% uitgespreek en gesê hulle gaan <01:21:45.100>die <01:21:45.320>platform <01:21:45.540>verlaat, <01:21:45.760>want 01:21:47.750 --> 01:21:47.760 align:start position:0% gaan die platform verlaat, want 01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:49.189 align:start position:0% gaan die platform verlaat, want Joe <01:21:47.973>Rogan <01:21:48.186>word <01:21:48.399>toegelaat <01:21:48.612>om <01:21:48.825>op <01:21:49.038>hierdie 01:21:49.189 --> 01:21:49.199 align:start position:0% Joe Rogan word toegelaat om op hierdie 01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:50.470 align:start position:0% Joe Rogan word toegelaat om op hierdie platform <01:21:49.439>te <01:21:49.679>wees <01:21:49.919>om <01:21:50.159>hierdie <01:21:50.399>soort 01:21:50.470 --> 01:21:50.480 align:start position:0% platform te wees om hierdie soort 01:21:50.480 --> 01:21:52.310 align:start position:0% platform te wees om hierdie soort gesprekke <01:21:50.840>met <01:21:51.200>mense <01:21:51.560>soos <01:21:51.920>Robert 01:21:52.310 --> 01:21:52.320 align:start position:0% gesprekke met mense soos Robert 01:21:52.320 --> 01:21:54.629 align:start position:0% gesprekke met mense soos Robert Malone te voer 01:21:54.629 --> 01:21:54.639 align:start position:0% Malone te voer 01:21:54.639 --> 01:21:56.470 align:start position:0% Malone te voer en <01:21:54.849>dit <01:21:55.059>is <01:21:55.269>vir <01:21:55.479>my <01:21:55.689>duidelik <01:21:55.899>dat <01:21:56.109>spotify <01:21:56.319>en 01:21:56.470 --> 01:21:56.480 align:start position:0% en dit is vir my duidelik dat spotify en 01:21:56.480 --> 01:21:57.750 align:start position:0% en dit is vir my duidelik dat spotify en youtube 01:21:57.750 --> 01:21:57.760 align:start position:0% youtube 01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:59.910 align:start position:0% youtube word <01:21:58.426>aansienlik <01:21:59.092>beïnvloed <01:21:59.758>deur 01:21:59.910 --> 01:21:59.920 align:start position:0% word aansienlik beïnvloed deur 01:21:59.920 --> 01:22:01.830 align:start position:0% word aansienlik beïnvloed deur hierdie <01:22:00.300>ekstreme <01:22:00.680>stemme <01:22:01.060>soos <01:22:01.440>jy 01:22:01.830 --> 01:22:01.840 align:start position:0% hierdie ekstreme stemme soos jy 01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:03.270 align:start position:0% hierdie ekstreme stemme soos jy aan <01:22:01.939>elke <01:22:02.038>kant <01:22:02.137>genoem <01:22:02.236>het 01:22:03.270 --> 01:22:03.280 align:start position:0% aan elke kant genoem het 01:22:03.280 --> 01:22:05.030 align:start position:0% aan elke kant genoem het en <01:22:03.462>dit <01:22:03.644>is <01:22:03.826>ook <01:22:04.008>vir <01:22:04.190>my <01:22:04.372>duidelik <01:22:04.554>dat 01:22:05.030 --> 01:22:05.040 align:start position:0% en dit is ook vir my duidelik dat 01:22:05.040 --> 01:22:06.709 align:start position:0% en dit is ook vir my duidelik dat facebook <01:22:05.257>dieselfde <01:22:05.474>is <01:22:05.691>en <01:22:05.908>dit <01:22:06.125>het <01:22:06.342>heen <01:22:06.559>en 01:22:06.709 --> 01:22:06.719 align:start position:0% facebook dieselfde is en dit het heen en 01:22:06.719 --> 01:22:07.590 align:start position:0% facebook dieselfde is en dit het heen en weer gegaan, 01:22:07.590 --> 01:22:07.600 align:start position:0% weer gegaan, 01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:09.669 align:start position:0% weer gegaan, om <01:22:07.862>die <01:22:08.124>waarheid <01:22:08.386>te <01:22:08.648>sê, <01:22:08.910>dis <01:22:09.172>hoekom <01:22:09.434>facebook 01:22:09.669 --> 01:22:09.679 align:start position:0% om die waarheid te sê, dis hoekom facebook 01:22:09.679 --> 01:22:11.350 align:start position:0% om die waarheid te sê, dis hoekom facebook oor <01:22:09.983>die <01:22:10.287>sensuur <01:22:10.591>geossilleer <01:22:10.895>is <01:22:11.199>soos 01:22:11.350 --> 01:22:11.360 align:start position:0% oor die sensuur geossilleer is soos 01:22:11.360 --> 01:22:13.510 align:start position:0% oor die sensuur geossilleer is soos een <01:22:11.613>groep <01:22:11.866>harder <01:22:12.119>word <01:22:12.372>as <01:22:12.625>die <01:22:12.878>ander, 01:22:13.510 --> 01:22:13.520 align:start position:0% een groep harder word as die ander, 01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:15.669 align:start position:0% een groep harder word as die ander, afhangende <01:22:13.799>van <01:22:14.078>of <01:22:14.357>dit <01:22:14.636>'n <01:22:14.915>verkiesingsjaar <01:22:15.194>is, 01:22:15.669 --> 01:22:15.679 align:start position:0% afhangende van of dit 'n verkiesingsjaar is, 01:22:15.679 --> 01:22:18.550 align:start position:0% afhangende van of dit 'n verkiesingsjaar is, is 01:22:18.550 --> 01:22:18.560 align:start position:0% 01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:19.750 align:start position:0% dit <01:22:18.960>uh, 01:22:19.750 --> 01:22:19.760 align:start position:0% dit uh, 01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:21.430 align:start position:0% dit uh, daar <01:22:19.930>is <01:22:20.100>verskeie <01:22:20.270>dinge <01:22:20.440>om <01:22:20.610>hier <01:22:20.780>te <01:22:20.950>sê, <01:22:21.120>so 01:22:21.430 --> 01:22:21.440 align:start position:0% daar is verskeie dinge om hier te sê, so 01:22:21.440 --> 01:22:23.189 align:start position:0% daar is verskeie dinge om hier te sê, so een <01:22:21.650>lyk <01:22:21.860>dit <01:22:22.070>of <01:22:22.280>ek <01:22:22.490>dink <01:22:22.700>jy <01:22:22.910>stel <01:22:23.120>dit 01:22:23.189 --> 01:22:23.199 align:start position:0% een lyk dit of ek dink jy stel dit 01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:24.470 align:start position:0% een lyk dit of ek dink jy stel dit baie <01:22:23.440>goed, 01:22:24.470 --> 01:22:24.480 align:start position:0% baie goed, 01:22:24.480 --> 01:22:26.390 align:start position:0% baie goed, dit <01:22:24.674>sal <01:22:24.868>ongelooflik <01:22:25.062>wees <01:22:25.256>as <01:22:25.450>hierdie <01:22:25.644>p <01:22:25.838>latforms 01:22:26.390 --> 01:22:26.400 align:start position:0% dit sal ongelooflik wees as hierdie p latforms 01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:28.229 align:start position:0% dit sal ongelooflik wees as hierdie p latforms kan <01:22:26.610>meganismes <01:22:26.820>vind <01:22:27.030>om <01:22:27.240>na <01:22:27.450>die <01:22:27.660>sentrum <01:22:27.870>te <01:22:28.080>luister 01:22:28.229 --> 01:22:28.239 align:start position:0% kan meganismes vind om na die sentrum te luister 01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:29.350 align:start position:0% kan meganismes vind om na die sentrum te luister 01:22:29.350 --> 01:22:29.360 align:start position:0% 01:22:29.360 --> 01:22:32.310 align:start position:0% na <01:22:29.725>die <01:22:30.090>um <01:22:30.455>na <01:22:30.820>die <01:22:31.185>groot <01:22:31.550>sentrum <01:22:31.915>wat 01:22:32.310 --> 01:22:32.320 align:start position:0% na die um na die groot sentrum wat 01:22:32.320 --> 01:22:34.390 align:start position:0% na die um na die groot sentrum wat eintlik <01:22:32.613>geraak <01:22:32.906>gaan <01:22:33.199>word 01:22:34.390 --> 01:22:34.400 align:start position:0% eintlik geraak gaan word 01:22:34.400 --> 01:22:37.270 align:start position:0% eintlik geraak gaan word deur <01:22:34.754>die <01:22:35.108>resultate <01:22:35.462>van <01:22:35.816>die <01:22:36.170>ons <01:22:36.524>strewe <01:22:36.878>na 01:22:37.270 --> 01:22:37.280 align:start position:0% deur die resultate van die ons strewe na 01:22:37.280 --> 01:22:38.790 align:start position:0% deur die resultate van die ons strewe na wetenskaplike <01:22:37.920>waarheid 01:22:38.790 --> 01:22:38.800 align:start position:0% wetenskaplike waarheid 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:40.470 align:start position:0% wetenskaplike waarheid reg <01:22:39.280>um 01:22:40.470 --> 01:22:40.480 align:start position:0% reg um 01:22:40.480 --> 01:22:42.470 align:start position:0% reg um en <01:22:40.831>luister <01:22:41.182>na <01:22:41.533>daardie <01:22:41.884>stemme <01:22:42.235>ek 01:22:42.470 --> 01:22:42.480 align:start position:0% en luister na daardie stemme ek 01:22:42.480 --> 01:22:44.629 align:start position:0% en luister na daardie stemme ek glo <01:22:42.746>ook <01:22:43.012>dat <01:22:43.278>die <01:22:43.544>meeste <01:22:43.810>mense <01:22:44.076>intelligent 01:22:44.629 --> 01:22:44.639 align:start position:0% glo ook dat die meeste mense intelligent 01:22:44.639 --> 01:22:45.750 align:start position:0% glo ook dat die meeste mense intelligent genoeg is 01:22:45.750 --> 01:22:45.760 align:start position:0% genoeg is 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.229 align:start position:0% genoeg is om <01:22:46.239>te <01:22:46.718>verwerk <01:22:47.197>inligting <01:22:47.676>en <01:22:48.155>om 01:22:48.229 --> 01:22:48.239 align:start position:0% om te verwerk inligting en om 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:50.550 align:start position:0% om te verwerk inligting en om hul <01:22:48.444>eie <01:22:48.649>besluite <01:22:48.854>te <01:22:49.059>maak <01:22:49.264>asof <01:22:49.469>hulle <01:22:49.674>nie 01:22:50.550 --> 01:22:50.560 align:start position:0% hul eie besluite te maak asof hulle nie 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.470 align:start position:0% hul eie besluite te maak asof hulle nie in <01:22:50.840>terme <01:22:51.120>van 01:22:52.470 --> 01:22:52.480 align:start position:0% in terme van 01:22:52.480 --> 01:22:54.070 align:start position:0% in terme van um <01:22:52.746>dit <01:22:53.012>is <01:22:53.278>nie, 01:22:54.070 --> 01:22:54.080 align:start position:0% um dit is nie, 01:22:54.080 --> 01:22:55.590 align:start position:0% um dit is nie, dit <01:22:54.280>is <01:22:54.480>natuurlik <01:22:54.680>ingewikkeld, <01:22:54.880>want <01:22:55.080>ons <01:22:55.280>het 01:22:55.590 --> 01:22:55.600 align:start position:0% dit is natuurlik ingewikkeld, want ons het 01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:57.030 align:start position:0% dit is natuurlik ingewikkeld, want ons het net <01:22:55.840>gepraat <01:22:56.080>oor <01:22:56.320>advertensies 01:22:57.030 --> 01:22:57.040 align:start position:0% net gepraat oor advertensies 01:22:57.040 --> 01:22:59.110 align:start position:0% net gepraat oor advertensies en <01:22:57.314>hoe <01:22:57.588>mense <01:22:57.862>beïnvloed <01:22:58.136>kan <01:22:58.410>word, <01:22:58.684>maar <01:22:58.958>ek 01:22:59.110 --> 01:22:59.120 align:start position:0% en hoe mense beïnvloed kan word, maar ek 01:22:59.120 --> 01:23:01.510 align:start position:0% en hoe mense beïnvloed kan word, maar ek voel <01:22:59.679>as <01:23:00.238>jy 01:23:01.510 --> 01:23:01.520 align:start position:0% voel as jy 01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.229 align:start position:0% voel as jy rou <01:23:02.080>lang-vorm 01:23:04.229 --> 01:23:04.239 align:start position:0% rou lang-vorm 01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:07.270 align:start position:0% rou lang-vorm podcasts <01:23:04.899>of <01:23:05.559>programme <01:23:06.219>waar <01:23:06.879>mense 01:23:07.270 --> 01:23:07.280 align:start position:0% podcasts of programme waar mense 01:23:07.280 --> 01:23:09.430 align:start position:0% podcasts of programme waar mense hul <01:23:08.480>mening 01:23:09.430 --> 01:23:09.440 align:start position:0% hul mening 01:23:09.440 --> 01:23:12.310 align:start position:0% hul mening uitdruk <01:23:09.791>en <01:23:10.142>hul <01:23:10.493>argument <01:23:10.844>volledig <01:23:11.195>uitdruk 01:23:12.310 --> 01:23:12.320 align:start position:0% uitdruk en hul argument volledig uitdruk 01:23:12.320 --> 01:23:14.070 align:start position:0% uitdruk en hul argument volledig uitdruk ek <01:23:12.600>dink <01:23:12.880>mense <01:23:13.160>kan <01:23:13.440>dit <01:23:13.720>hoor <01:23:14.000>om 01:23:14.070 --> 01:23:14.080 align:start position:0% ek dink mense kan dit hoor om 01:23:14.080 --> 01:23:15.430 align:start position:0% ek dink mense kan dit hoor om hul <01:23:14.180>eie <01:23:14.280>besluit <01:23:14.380>te <01:23:14.480>maak 01:23:15.430 --> 01:23:15.440 align:start position:0% hul eie besluit te maak 01:23:15.440 --> 01:23:17.669 align:start position:0% hul eie besluit te maak en <01:23:15.791>as <01:23:16.142>daardie <01:23:16.493>argumente <01:23:16.844>'n <01:23:17.195>platform 01:23:17.669 --> 01:23:17.679 align:start position:0% en as daardie argumente 'n platform 01:23:17.679 --> 01:23:19.910 align:start position:0% en as daardie argumente 'n platform het <01:23:17.953>waarop <01:23:18.227>hulle <01:23:18.501>kan <01:23:18.775>leef, <01:23:19.049>kan <01:23:19.323>ander <01:23:19.597>mense 01:23:19.910 --> 01:23:21.189 align:start position:0% het waarop hulle kan leef, kan ander mense 01:23:21.189 --> 01:23:21.199 align:start position:0% 01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:23.189 align:start position:0% beter <01:23:21.450>argumente <01:23:21.701>verskaf <01:23:21.952>as <01:23:22.203>hulle <01:23:22.454>nie <01:23:22.705>daarmee <01:23:22.956>saamstem 01:23:23.189 --> 01:23:23.199 align:start position:0% beter argumente verskaf as hulle nie daarmee saamstem 01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:26.229 align:start position:0% beter argumente verskaf as hulle nie daarmee saamstem nie <01:23:23.652>en <01:23:24.105>nou <01:23:24.558>ons <01:23:25.011>as <01:23:25.464>mense <01:23:25.917>as 01:23:26.229 --> 01:23:26.239 align:start position:0% nie en nou ons as mense as 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:28.390 align:start position:0% nie en nou ons as mense as rasionale <01:23:26.905>intelligente <01:23:27.571>mense <01:23:28.237>kan 01:23:28.390 --> 01:23:28.400 align:start position:0% rasionale intelligente mense kan 01:23:28.400 --> 01:23:30.470 align:start position:0% rasionale intelligente mense kan na <01:23:28.653>beide <01:23:28.906>kyk <01:23:29.159>en <01:23:29.412>ons <01:23:29.665>eie <01:23:29.918>besluite 01:23:30.470 --> 01:23:30.480 align:start position:0% na beide kyk en ons eie besluite 01:23:30.480 --> 01:23:32.149 align:start position:0% na beide kyk en ons eie besluite maak <01:23:30.685>dis <01:23:30.890>waar <01:23:31.095>sosiale <01:23:31.300>media <01:23:31.505>baie <01:23:31.710>goed <01:23:31.915>kan 01:23:32.149 --> 01:23:32.159 align:start position:0% maak dis waar sosiale media baie goed kan 01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:33.030 align:start position:0% maak dis waar sosiale media baie goed kan 01:23:33.030 --> 01:23:33.040 align:start position:0% 01:23:33.040 --> 01:23:35.830 align:start position:0% wees <01:23:33.359>soos <01:23:33.678>hierdie <01:23:33.997>kollektiewe <01:23:34.316>inte <01:23:34.635>lligence 01:23:35.830 --> 01:23:35.840 align:start position:0% wees soos hierdie kollektiewe inte lligence 01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:37.430 align:start position:0% wees soos hierdie kollektiewe inte lligence ons <01:23:36.159>saam 01:23:37.430 --> 01:23:37.440 align:start position:0% ons saam 01:23:37.440 --> 01:23:39.590 align:start position:0% ons saam luister <01:23:37.773>na <01:23:38.106>al <01:23:38.439>hierdie <01:23:38.772>stemme <01:23:39.105>en <01:23:39.438>besluit 01:23:39.590 --> 01:23:39.600 align:start position:0% luister na al hierdie stemme en besluit 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:41.990 align:start position:0% luister na al hierdie stemme en besluit ons <01:23:40.000>eie <01:23:40.400>gedagtes <01:23:40.800>verneder <01:23:41.200>onsself <01:23:41.600>eintlik 01:23:41.990 --> 01:23:42.000 align:start position:0% ons eie gedagtes verneder onsself eintlik 01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:45.350 align:start position:0% ons eie gedagtes verneder onsself eintlik dikwels <01:23:42.411>jy <01:23:42.822>weet <01:23:43.233>jy <01:23:43.644>dink <01:23:44.055>jy <01:23:44.466>weet <01:23:44.877>asof 01:23:45.350 --> 01:23:45.360 align:start position:0% dikwels jy weet jy dink jy weet asof 01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:47.669 align:start position:0% dikwels jy weet jy dink jy weet asof jy <01:23:45.584>'n <01:23:45.808>kenner <01:23:46.032>is <01:23:46.256>sê <01:23:46.480>jy <01:23:46.704>het <01:23:46.928>'n <01:23:47.152>doktorsgraad <01:23:47.376>in <01:23:47.600>'n 01:23:47.669 --> 01:23:47.679 align:start position:0% jy 'n kenner is sê jy het 'n doktorsgraad in 'n 01:23:47.679 --> 01:23:49.669 align:start position:0% jy 'n kenner is sê jy het 'n doktorsgraad in 'n sekere <01:23:47.932>ding <01:23:48.185>so <01:23:48.438>daar <01:23:48.691>is <01:23:48.944>hierdie <01:23:49.197>selfvertroue 01:23:49.669 --> 01:23:49.679 align:start position:0% sekere ding so daar is hierdie selfvertroue 01:23:49.679 --> 01:23:51.669 align:start position:0% sekere ding so daar is hierdie selfvertroue wat <01:23:50.079>daarmee <01:23:50.479>saamgaan <01:23:50.879>en 01:23:51.669 --> 01:23:51.679 align:start position:0% wat daarmee saamgaan en 01:23:51.679 --> 01:23:54.310 align:start position:0% wat daarmee saamgaan en die <01:23:51.919>kollektiewe <01:23:52.159>intelligensie <01:23:52.399>wat <01:23:52.639>nie <01:23:52.879>gesensor <01:23:53.119>is <01:23:53.359>nie, 01:23:54.310 --> 01:23:54.320 align:start position:0% die kollektiewe intelligensie wat nie gesensor is nie, 01:23:54.320 --> 01:23:56.790 align:start position:0% die kollektiewe intelligensie wat nie gesensor is nie, laat <01:23:54.525>jou <01:23:54.730>toe <01:23:54.935>om <01:23:55.140>jouself <01:23:55.345>uiteindelik <01:23:55.550>te <01:23:55.755>verneder 01:23:56.790 --> 01:23:56.800 align:start position:0% laat jou toe om jouself uiteindelik te verneder 01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.270 align:start position:0% laat jou toe om jouself uiteindelik te verneder soos <01:23:57.131>jy <01:23:57.462>ontdek <01:23:57.793>jy <01:23:58.124>weet <01:23:58.455>al <01:23:58.786>wat <01:23:59.117>dit 01:23:59.270 --> 01:23:59.280 align:start position:0% soos jy ontdek jy weet al wat dit 01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:01.110 align:start position:0% soos jy ontdek jy weet al wat dit neem <01:23:59.455>is <01:23:59.630>'n <01:23:59.805>paar <01:23:59.980>keer <01:24:00.155>wat 01:24:01.110 --> 01:24:01.120 align:start position:0% neem is 'n paar keer wat 01:24:01.120 --> 01:24:03.270 align:start position:0% neem is 'n paar keer wat jy <01:24:01.360>weet <01:24:01.600>as <01:24:01.840>jy <01:24:02.080>terugkyk 01:24:03.270 --> 01:24:03.280 align:start position:0% jy weet as jy terugkyk 01:24:03.280 --> 01:24:04.070 align:start position:0% jy weet as jy terugkyk uh 01:24:04.070 --> 01:24:04.080 align:start position:0% uh 01:24:04.080 --> 01:24:07.110 align:start position:0% uh vyf <01:24:04.426>jaar <01:24:04.772>later <01:24:05.118>besef <01:24:05.464>ek <01:24:05.810>was <01:24:06.156>verkeerd 01:24:07.110 --> 01:24:07.120 align:start position:0% vyf jaar later besef ek was verkeerd 01:24:07.120 --> 01:24:08.470 align:start position:0% vyf jaar later besef ek was verkeerd en <01:24:07.333>dit <01:24:07.546>is <01:24:07.759>regtig <01:24:07.972>gesond <01:24:08.185>vir <01:24:08.398>'n 01:24:08.470 --> 01:24:08.480 align:start position:0% en dit is regtig gesond vir 'n 01:24:08.480 --> 01:24:09.830 align:start position:0% en dit is regtig gesond vir 'n wetenskaplike <01:24:08.719>wat <01:24:08.958>regtig <01:24:09.197>gesond <01:24:09.436>is <01:24:09.675>vir 01:24:09.830 --> 01:24:09.840 align:start position:0% wetenskaplike wat regtig gesond is vir 01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.229 align:start position:0% wetenskaplike wat regtig gesond is vir enigiemand <01:24:10.133>om <01:24:10.426>deur <01:24:10.719>te <01:24:11.012>gaan <01:24:11.305>en <01:24:11.598>net 01:24:12.229 --> 01:24:12.239 align:start position:0% enigiemand om deur te gaan en net 01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:14.709 align:start position:0% enigiemand om deur te gaan en net deur <01:24:12.703>daardie <01:24:13.167>oop <01:24:13.631>diskoers <01:24:14.095>kan <01:24:14.559>kan 01:24:14.709 --> 01:24:14.719 align:start position:0% deur daardie oop diskoers kan kan 01:24:14.719 --> 01:24:18.149 align:start position:0% deur daardie oop diskoers kan kan jy <01:24:15.092>regtig <01:24:15.465>hê <01:24:15.838>dat <01:24:16.211>daardie <01:24:16.584>gesê <01:24:16.957>spotify 01:24:18.149 --> 01:24:18.159 align:start position:0% jy regtig hê dat daardie gesê spotify 01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:19.590 align:start position:0% jy regtig hê dat daardie gesê spotify ook 01:24:19.590 --> 01:24:19.600 align:start position:0% ook 01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:22.550 align:start position:0% ook net <01:24:20.026>soos <01:24:20.452>pfizer <01:24:20.878>'n 01:24:22.550 --> 01:24:22.560 align:start position:0% net soos pfizer 'n 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:24.709 align:start position:0% net soos pfizer 'n maatskappy <01:24:22.720>is, <01:24:22.880>daarom <01:24:23.040>is 01:24:24.709 --> 01:24:24.719 align:start position:0% maatskappy is, daarom is 01:24:24.719 --> 01:24:26.550 align:start position:0% maatskappy is, daarom is hierdie <01:24:25.040>podcast 01:24:26.550 --> 01:24:26.560 align:start position:0% hierdie podcast 01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:28.229 align:start position:0% hierdie podcast ek <01:24:26.730>weet <01:24:26.900>nie <01:24:27.070>of <01:24:27.240>jy <01:24:27.410>weet <01:24:27.580>wat <01:24:27.750>rss <01:24:27.920>feeds 01:24:28.229 --> 01:24:28.239 align:start position:0% ek weet nie of jy weet wat rss feeds 01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:29.110 align:start position:0% ek weet nie of jy weet wat rss feeds is nie 01:24:29.110 --> 01:24:29.120 align:start position:0% is nie 01:24:29.120 --> 01:24:31.990 align:start position:0% is nie maar <01:24:29.439>podcasts <01:24:29.758>kan <01:24:30.077>nie <01:24:30.396>gesensor <01:24:30.715>word <01:24:31.034>nie <01:24:31.353>so <01:24:31.672>joe's 01:24:31.990 --> 01:24:32.000 align:start position:0% maar podcasts kan nie gesensor word nie so joe's 01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:33.590 align:start position:0% maar podcasts kan nie gesensor word nie so joe's in <01:24:32.272>die <01:24:32.544>ongelukkige <01:24:32.816>posisie <01:24:33.088>hy <01:24:33.360>bly 01:24:33.590 --> 01:24:33.600 align:start position:0% in die ongelukkige posisie hy bly 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.270 align:start position:0% in die ongelukkige posisie hy bly net <01:24:33.800>op <01:24:34.000>spotify 01:24:35.270 --> 01:24:35.280 align:start position:0% net op spotify 01:24:35.280 --> 01:24:37.750 align:start position:0% net op spotify so <01:24:35.696>spotify <01:24:36.112>was <01:24:36.528>eintlik <01:24:36.944>baie <01:24:37.360>goed 01:24:37.750 --> 01:24:37.760 align:start position:0% so spotify was eintlik baie goed 01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:39.990 align:start position:0% so spotify was eintlik baie goed om <01:24:38.010>te <01:24:38.260>sê <01:24:38.510>ons <01:24:38.760>bly <01:24:39.010>vir <01:24:39.260>eers <01:24:39.510>uit <01:24:39.760>dit 01:24:39.990 --> 01:24:40.000 align:start position:0% om te sê ons bly vir eers uit dit 01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:41.990 align:start position:0% om te sê ons bly vir eers uit dit 01:24:41.990 --> 01:24:42.000 align:start position:0% 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.430 align:start position:0% maar <01:24:42.457>rss <01:24:42.914>dit <01:24:43.371>is <01:24:43.828>seerower <01:24:44.285>radio <01:24:44.742>niemand <01:24:45.199>kan 01:24:45.430 --> 01:24:45.440 align:start position:0% maar rss dit is seerower radio niemand kan 01:24:45.440 --> 01:24:47.830 align:start position:0% maar rss dit is seerower radio niemand kan sensor <01:24:45.760>dit <01:24:46.080>is <01:24:46.400>die <01:24:46.720>internet <01:24:47.040>so 01:24:47.830 --> 01:24:47.840 align:start position:0% sensor dit is die internet so 01:24:47.840 --> 01:24:50.070 align:start position:0% sensor dit is die internet so um <01:24:48.480>finansieel 01:24:50.070 --> 01:24:50.080 align:start position:0% um finansieel 01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:52.550 align:start position:0% um finansieel in <01:24:50.453>terme <01:24:50.826>van <01:24:51.199>platforms <01:24:51.572>kan <01:24:51.945>dit <01:24:52.318>nie 01:24:52.550 --> 01:24:52.560 align:start position:0% in terme van platforms kan dit nie 01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:55.510 align:start position:0% in terme van platforms kan dit nie gesensor <01:24:53.040>word <01:24:53.520>nie <01:24:54.000>en <01:24:54.480>daarom <01:24:54.960>is <01:24:55.440>podcasts 01:24:55.510 --> 01:24:55.520 align:start position:0% gesensor word nie en daarom is podcasts 01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:58.870 align:start position:0% gesensor word nie en daarom is podcasts regtig <01:24:56.039>mooi <01:24:56.558>en <01:24:57.077>so <01:24:57.596>as <01:24:58.115>spotify <01:24:58.634>of 01:24:58.870 --> 01:24:58.880 align:start position:0% regtig mooi en so as spotify of 01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:00.149 align:start position:0% regtig mooi en so as spotify of youtube 01:25:00.149 --> 01:25:01.590 align:start position:0% youtube 01:25:01.590 --> 01:25:01.600 align:start position:0% 01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.149 align:start position:0% die <01:25:01.823>gasheer <01:25:02.046>van <01:25:02.269>podcasts <01:25:02.492>wil <01:25:02.715>wees 01:25:04.149 --> 01:25:04.159 align:start position:0% die gasheer van podcasts wil wees 01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:06.950 align:start position:0% die gasheer van podcasts wil wees dink <01:25:04.439>ek <01:25:04.719>waar <01:25:04.999>hulle <01:25:05.279>floreer 01:25:06.950 --> 01:25:06.960 align:start position:0% dink ek waar hulle floreer 01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:08.470 align:start position:0% dink ek waar hulle floreer is 01:25:08.470 --> 01:25:08.480 align:start position:0% is 01:25:08.480 --> 01:25:10.790 align:start position:0% is vrye <01:25:08.640>uitdrukking <01:25:08.800>maak 01:25:10.790 --> 01:25:10.800 align:start position:0% vrye uitdrukking maak 01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:12.870 align:start position:0% vrye uitdrukking maak nie <01:25:10.980>saak <01:25:11.160>hoe <01:25:11.340>mal <01:25:11.520>nie 01:25:12.870 --> 01:25:12.880 align:start position:0% nie saak hoe mal nie 01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:15.430 align:start position:0% nie saak hoe mal nie ja <01:25:13.180>maar <01:25:13.480>ek <01:25:13.780>wil <01:25:14.080>om 01:25:15.430 --> 01:25:15.440 align:start position:0% ja maar ek wil om 01:25:15.440 --> 01:25:16.870 align:start position:0% ja maar ek wil om 'n <01:25:15.622>bietjie <01:25:15.804>terug <01:25:15.986>te <01:25:16.168>druk <01:25:16.350>op <01:25:16.532>wat <01:25:16.714>jy 01:25:16.870 --> 01:25:16.880 align:start position:0% 'n bietjie terug te druk op wat jy 01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:17.990 align:start position:0% 'n bietjie terug te druk op wat jy sê, 01:25:17.990 --> 01:25:18.000 align:start position:0% sê, 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:21.350 align:start position:0% sê, want <01:25:18.400>ek <01:25:18.800>het <01:25:19.200>um <01:25:19.600>anti-feite <01:25:20.000>vriende <01:25:20.400>vir 01:25:21.350 --> 01:25:21.360 align:start position:0% want ek het um anti-feite vriende vir 01:25:21.360 --> 01:25:23.189 align:start position:0% want ek het um anti-feite vriende vir wie <01:25:21.493>ek <01:25:21.626>lief <01:25:21.759>is, 01:25:23.189 --> 01:25:23.199 align:start position:0% wie ek lief is, 01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:26.229 align:start position:0% wie ek lief is, hulle <01:25:23.899>is <01:25:24.599>dierbare <01:25:25.299>vriende <01:25:25.999>en 01:25:26.229 --> 01:25:26.239 align:start position:0% hulle is dierbare vriende en 01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:28.629 align:start position:0% hulle is dierbare vriende en hulle <01:25:26.383>sal <01:25:26.527>vir <01:25:26.671>my <01:25:26.815>goed <01:25:26.959>stuur 01:25:28.629 --> 01:25:28.639 align:start position:0% hulle sal vir my goed stuur 01:25:28.639 --> 01:25:30.229 align:start position:0% hulle sal vir my goed stuur en <01:25:28.839>dit <01:25:29.039>sal <01:25:29.239>my <01:25:29.439>' 01:25:30.229 --> 01:25:30.239 align:start position:0% en dit sal my ' 01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:31.510 align:start position:0% en dit sal my ' n <01:25:30.480>uur 01:25:31.510 --> 01:25:31.520 align:start position:0% n uur 01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:34.149 align:start position:0% n uur neem <01:25:31.659>om <01:25:31.798>deur <01:25:31.937>te <01:25:32.076>gaan <01:25:32.215>wat <01:25:32.354>hulle <01:25:32.493>gestuur <01:25:32.632>het 01:25:34.149 --> 01:25:34.159 align:start position:0% neem om deur te gaan wat hulle gestuur het 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:37.669 align:start position:0% neem om deur te gaan wat hulle gestuur het om <01:25:34.439>te <01:25:34.719>sien <01:25:34.999>of <01:25:35.279>dit <01:25:35.559>geloofwaardig <01:25:35.839>is 01:25:37.669 --> 01:25:37.679 align:start position:0% om te sien of dit geloofwaardig is 01:25:37.679 --> 01:25:39.030 align:start position:0% om te sien of dit geloofwaardig is en 01:25:39.030 --> 01:25:39.040 align:start position:0% en 01:25:39.040 --> 01:25:40.390 align:start position:0% en gewoonlik <01:25:39.180>nie <01:25:39.320>is <01:25:39.460>dit <01:25:39.600>nie 01:25:40.390 --> 01:25:40.400 align:start position:0% gewoonlik nie is dit nie 01:25:40.400 --> 01:25:42.310 align:start position:0% gewoonlik nie is dit nie dit <01:25:40.570>is <01:25:40.740>nie <01:25:40.910>'n <01:25:41.080>ewekansige <01:25:41.250>steekproef <01:25:41.420>van <01:25:41.590>die <01:25:41.760>anti-vax- 01:25:42.310 --> 01:25:42.320 align:start position:0% dit is nie 'n ewekansige steekproef van die anti-vax- 01:25:42.320 --> 01:25:43.750 align:start position:0% dit is nie 'n ewekansige steekproef van die anti-vax- argument <01:25:42.460>nie, <01:25:42.600>ek <01:25:42.740>sê <01:25:42.880>nie 01:25:43.750 --> 01:25:43.760 align:start position:0% argument nie, ek sê nie 01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:45.910 align:start position:0% argument nie, ek sê nie ek <01:25:44.293>kan <01:25:44.826>die <01:25:45.359>anti-vaxx- 01:25:45.910 --> 01:25:45.920 align:start position:0% ek kan die anti-vaxx- 01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:48.390 align:start position:0% ek kan die anti-vaxx- argument <01:25:46.239>weerlê <01:25:46.558>nie, <01:25:46.877>maar <01:25:47.196>ek <01:25:47.515>sê <01:25:47.834>dat <01:25:48.153>dit 01:25:48.390 --> 01:25:48.400 align:start position:0% argument weerlê nie, maar ek sê dat dit 01:25:48.400 --> 01:25:51.750 align:start position:0% argument weerlê nie, maar ek sê dat dit amper <01:25:48.777>is <01:25:49.154>asof <01:25:49.531>ons <01:25:49.908>gepraat <01:25:50.285>het <01:25:50.662>oor <01:25:51.039>hoe 01:25:51.750 --> 01:25:51.760 align:start position:0% amper is asof ons gepraat het oor hoe 01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:54.149 align:start position:0% amper is asof ons gepraat het oor hoe mediese <01:25:52.320>wetenskap <01:25:52.880>kliniese <01:25:53.440>proewe <01:25:54.000>die 01:25:54.149 --> 01:25:54.159 align:start position:0% mediese wetenskap kliniese proewe die 01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:55.669 align:start position:0% mediese wetenskap kliniese proewe die aanbieding <01:25:54.499>van <01:25:54.839>kliniese <01:25:55.179>proewe <01:25:55.519>aan 01:25:55.669 --> 01:25:55.679 align:start position:0% aanbieding van kliniese proewe aan 01:25:55.679 --> 01:25:58.950 align:start position:0% aanbieding van kliniese proewe aan dokters <01:25:56.239>kan <01:25:56.799>verbeter <01:25:57.359>word <01:25:57.919>en 01:25:58.950 --> 01:25:58.960 align:start position:0% dokters kan verbeter word en 01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:01.350 align:start position:0% dokters kan verbeter word en die <01:25:59.239>eerste <01:25:59.518>ding <01:25:59.797>waarmee <01:26:00.076>ons <01:26:00.355>vorendag <01:26:00.634>gekom <01:26:00.913>het, <01:26:01.192>is 01:26:01.350 --> 01:26:01.360 align:start position:0% die eerste ding waarmee ons vorendag gekom het, is 01:26:01.360 --> 01:26:04.470 align:start position:0% die eerste ding waarmee ons vorendag gekom het, is om <01:26:02.120>voorpublikasie <01:26:02.880>deursigtigheid <01:26:03.640>in <01:26:04.400>die 01:26:04.470 --> 01:26:04.480 align:start position:0% om voorpublikasie deursigtigheid in die 01:26:04.480 --> 01:26:06.709 align:start position:0% om voorpublikasie deursigtigheid in die portuurbeoordelingsproses <01:26:04.864>te <01:26:05.248>hê <01:26:05.632>ja <01:26:06.016>so <01:26:06.400>slegte 01:26:06.709 --> 01:26:06.719 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelingsproses te hê ja so slegte 01:26:06.719 --> 01:26:08.950 align:start position:0% portuurbeoordelingsproses te hê ja so slegte inligting <01:26:07.359>bevooroordeelde <01:26:07.999>inligting <01:26:08.639>kom 01:26:08.950 --> 01:26:08.960 align:start position:0% inligting bevooroordeelde inligting kom 01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:11.990 align:start position:0% inligting bevooroordeelde inligting kom nie <01:26:09.371>uit <01:26:09.782>asof <01:26:10.193>dit <01:26:10.604>l <01:26:11.015>egitiem <01:26:11.426>en <01:26:11.837>jy 01:26:11.990 --> 01:26:12.000 align:start position:0% nie uit asof dit l egitiem en jy 01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.550 align:start position:0% nie uit asof dit l egitiem en jy kan <01:26:12.266>dit <01:26:12.532>nie <01:26:12.798>terugsit <01:26:13.064>nie, <01:26:13.330>neem <01:26:13.596>dit <01:26:13.862>weer <01:26:14.128>vas <01:26:14.394>sodra 01:26:14.550 --> 01:26:14.560 align:start position:0% kan dit nie terugsit nie, neem dit weer vas sodra 01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:15.990 align:start position:0% kan dit nie terugsit nie, neem dit weer vas sodra dit <01:26:14.880>uitkom, 01:26:15.990 --> 01:26:16.000 align:start position:0% dit uitkom, 01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:18.310 align:start position:0% dit uitkom, ek <01:26:16.253>dink <01:26:16.506>daar <01:26:16.759>is <01:26:17.012>'n <01:26:17.265>element <01:26:17.518>daarvan 01:26:18.310 --> 01:26:18.320 align:start position:0% ek dink daar is 'n element daarvan 01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:19.669 align:start position:0% ek dink daar is 'n element daarvan in <01:26:18.560>die 01:26:19.669 --> 01:26:19.679 align:start position:0% in die 01:26:19.679 --> 01:26:21.270 align:start position:0% in die argumente <01:26:19.905>wat <01:26:20.131>aan <01:26:20.357>die <01:26:20.583>gang <01:26:20.809>is <01:26:21.035>oor 01:26:21.270 --> 01:26:21.280 align:start position:0% argumente wat aan die gang is oor 01:26:21.280 --> 01:26:23.350 align:start position:0% argumente wat aan die gang is oor entstowwe <01:26:21.530>en <01:26:21.780>dit <01:26:22.030>is <01:26:22.280>aan <01:26:22.530>beide <01:26:22.780>kante, <01:26:23.030>maar <01:26:23.280>ek 01:26:23.350 --> 01:26:23.360 align:start position:0% entstowwe en dit is aan beide kante, maar ek 01:26:23.360 --> 01:26:27.830 align:start position:0% entstowwe en dit is aan beide kante, maar ek dink <01:26:23.984>die <01:26:24.608>anti-faks <01:26:25.232>kant <01:26:25.856>sit <01:26:26.480>meer 01:26:27.830 --> 01:26:27.840 align:start position:0% dink die anti-faks kant sit meer 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:30.149 align:start position:0% dink die anti-faks kant sit meer eenhede <01:26:28.000>uit <01:26:28.160>van <01:26:28.320>inligting <01:26:28.480>wat 01:26:30.149 --> 01:26:30.159 align:start position:0% eenhede uit van inligting wat 01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:32.470 align:start position:0% eenhede uit van inligting wat beweer <01:26:30.456>dat <01:26:30.753>dit <01:26:31.050>wys <01:26:31.347>dat <01:26:31.644>die <01:26:31.941>entstowwe <01:26:32.238>nie 01:26:32.470 --> 01:26:32.480 align:start position:0% beweer dat dit wys dat die entstowwe nie 01:26:32.480 --> 01:26:33.430 align:start position:0% beweer dat dit wys dat die entstowwe nie werk nie 01:26:33.430 --> 01:26:33.440 align:start position:0% werk nie 01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:34.550 align:start position:0% werk nie en 01:26:34.550 --> 01:26:34.560 align:start position:0% en 01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:36.550 align:start position:0% en ek <01:26:34.928>dink <01:26:35.296>in <01:26:35.664>'n <01:26:36.032>ideale <01:26:36.400>situasie 01:26:36.550 --> 01:26:36.560 align:start position:0% ek dink in 'n ideale situasie 01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:39.669 align:start position:0% ek dink in 'n ideale situasie sal <01:26:37.280>daar <01:26:38.000>intydse <01:26:38.720>feitekontrole <01:26:39.440>deur 01:26:39.669 --> 01:26:39.679 align:start position:0% sal daar intydse feitekontrole deur 01:26:39.679 --> 01:26:42.229 align:start position:0% sal daar intydse feitekontrole deur onafhanklike <01:26:39.945>mense <01:26:40.211>wees <01:26:40.477>om <01:26:40.743>dit <01:26:41.009>nie <01:26:41.275>te <01:26:41.541>sensor <01:26:41.807>nie, <01:26:42.073>maar 01:26:42.229 --> 01:26:42.239 align:start position:0% onafhanklike mense wees om dit nie te sensor nie, maar 01:26:42.239 --> 01:26:43.830 align:start position:0% onafhanklike mense wees om dit nie te sensor nie, maar om <01:26:42.426>net <01:26:42.613>te <01:26:42.800>sê 01:26:43.830 --> 01:26:43.840 align:start position:0% om net te sê 01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.830 align:start position:0% om net te sê dat <01:26:44.053>die <01:26:44.266>studie <01:26:44.479>opgestel <01:26:44.692>is <01:26:44.905>om <01:26:45.118>dit <01:26:45.331>te <01:26:45.544>doen <01:26:45.757>en 01:26:45.830 --> 01:26:45.840 align:start position:0% dat die studie opgestel is om dit te doen en 01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.229 align:start position:0% dat die studie opgestel is om dit te doen en dit <01:26:46.213>is <01:26:46.586>wat <01:26:46.959>die <01:26:47.332>gevolgtrekkings <01:26:47.705>was <01:26:48.078>so 01:26:48.229 --> 01:26:48.239 align:start position:0% dit is wat die gevolgtrekkings was so 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:51.270 align:start position:0% dit is wat die gevolgtrekkings was so soos <01:26:48.535>dit <01:26:48.831>gestel <01:26:49.127>is, <01:26:49.423>uh <01:26:49.719>is <01:26:50.015>aan <01:26:50.311>die <01:26:50.607>een <01:26:50.903>kant <01:26:51.199>van 01:26:51.270 --> 01:26:51.280 align:start position:0% soos dit gestel is, uh is aan die een kant van 01:26:51.280 --> 01:26:52.950 align:start position:0% soos dit gestel is, uh is aan die een kant van hierdie <01:26:51.533>argument, <01:26:51.786>maar <01:26:52.039>dit <01:26:52.292>is <01:26:52.545>wat <01:26:52.798>ek 01:26:52.950 --> 01:26:52.960 align:start position:0% hierdie argument, maar dit is wat ek 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:55.270 align:start position:0% hierdie argument, maar dit is wat ek argumenteer, <01:26:53.230>ja <01:26:53.500>ek <01:26:53.770>stem <01:26:54.040>saam <01:26:54.310>met <01:26:54.580>jou <01:26:54.850>wat <01:26:55.120>ek 01:26:55.270 --> 01:26:55.280 align:start position:0% argumenteer, ja ek stem saam met jou wat ek 01:26:55.280 --> 01:26:57.990 align:start position:0% argumenteer, ja ek stem saam met jou wat ek argumenteer <01:26:55.706>is <01:26:56.132>dat <01:26:56.558>hierdie <01:26:56.984>groot <01:26:57.410>netwerk <01:26:57.836>van 01:26:57.990 --> 01:26:58.000 align:start position:0% argumenteer is dat hierdie groot netwerk van 01:26:58.000 --> 01:26:59.430 align:start position:0% argumenteer is dat hierdie groot netwerk van mense <01:26:58.256>wat <01:26:58.512>ons <01:26:58.768>het <01:26:59.024>wat <01:26:59.280>die 01:26:59.430 --> 01:26:59.440 align:start position:0% mense wat ons het wat die 01:26:59.440 --> 01:27:01.430 align:start position:0% mense wat ons het wat die kollektiewe <01:26:59.808>intelligensie <01:27:00.176>is, <01:27:00.544>kan' <01:27:00.912>Moenie <01:27:01.280>dit 01:27:01.430 --> 01:27:01.440 align:start position:0% kollektiewe intelligensie is, kan' Moenie dit 01:27:01.440 --> 01:27:04.229 align:start position:0% kollektiewe intelligensie is, kan' Moenie dit intyds <01:27:01.770>doen <01:27:02.100>as <01:27:02.430>jy <01:27:02.760>dit <01:27:03.090>toelaat <01:27:03.420>nie <01:27:03.750>as <01:27:04.080>jy 01:27:04.229 --> 01:27:04.239 align:start position:0% intyds doen as jy dit toelaat nie as jy 01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:06.149 align:start position:0% intyds doen as jy dit toelaat nie as jy mense <01:27:04.479>aanmoedig <01:27:04.719>om <01:27:04.959>dit <01:27:05.199>te <01:27:05.439>doen <01:27:05.679>en <01:27:05.919>die 01:27:06.149 --> 01:27:06.159 align:start position:0% mense aanmoedig om dit te doen en die 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:08.310 align:start position:0% mense aanmoedig om dit te doen en die wetenskaplikes <01:27:06.399>in <01:27:06.639>plaas <01:27:06.879>daarvan <01:27:07.119>om <01:27:07.359>te <01:27:07.599>luister. <01:27:07.839>Ek <01:27:08.079>het 01:27:08.310 --> 01:27:08.320 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes in plaas daarvan om te luister. Ek het 01:27:08.320 --> 01:27:10.550 align:start position:0% wetenskaplikes in plaas daarvan om te luister. Ek het interaksie <01:27:09.013>met <01:27:09.706>baie <01:27:10.399>kollegas, 01:27:10.550 --> 01:27:10.560 align:start position:0% interaksie met baie kollegas, 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:12.470 align:start position:0% interaksie met baie kollegas, baie <01:27:10.760>vriende <01:27:10.960>wat <01:27:11.160>wetenskaplikes <01:27:11.360>is, 01:27:12.470 --> 01:27:12.480 align:start position:0% baie vriende wat wetenskaplikes is, 01:27:12.480 --> 01:27:15.030 align:start position:0% baie vriende wat wetenskaplikes is, hulle <01:27:12.866>rol <01:27:13.252>hul <01:27:13.638>oë, <01:27:14.024>hul <01:27:14.410>reaksie <01:27:14.796>is 01:27:15.030 --> 01:27:15.040 align:start position:0% hulle rol hul oë, hul reaksie is 01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:16.390 align:start position:0% hulle rol hul oë, hul reaksie is 01:27:16.390 --> 01:27:16.400 align:start position:0% 01:27:16.400 --> 01:27:18.070 align:start position:0% soos <01:27:16.688>hulle. <01:27:16.976>t <01:27:17.264>wil <01:27:17.552>interaksie <01:27:17.840>met 01:27:18.070 --> 01:27:18.080 align:start position:0% soos hulle. t wil interaksie met 01:27:18.080 --> 01:27:20.149 align:start position:0% soos hulle. t wil interaksie met dit, <01:27:19.280>maar 01:27:20.149 --> 01:27:20.159 align:start position:0% dit, maar 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:22.870 align:start position:0% dit, maar dit <01:27:20.372>is <01:27:20.585>net <01:27:20.798>nie <01:27:21.011>die <01:27:21.224>regte <01:27:21.437>reaksie 01:27:22.870 --> 01:27:22.880 align:start position:0% dit is net nie die regte reaksie 01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:25.510 align:start position:0% dit is net nie die regte reaksie as <01:27:23.312>'n <01:27:23.744>groot <01:27:24.176>aantal <01:27:24.608>mense <01:27:25.040>glo 01:27:25.510 --> 01:27:25.520 align:start position:0% as 'n groot aantal mense glo 01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:26.310 align:start position:0% as 'n groot aantal mense glo 01:27:26.310 --> 01:27:26.320 align:start position:0% 01:27:26.320 --> 01:27:28.470 align:start position:0% dit <01:27:26.720>is <01:27:27.120>jou <01:27:27.520>taak <01:27:27.920>as <01:27:28.320>kommunikeerders 01:27:28.470 --> 01:27:28.480 align:start position:0% dit is jou taak as kommunikeerders 01:27:28.480 --> 01:27:31.189 align:start position:0% dit is jou taak as kommunikeerders om <01:27:28.736>jou <01:27:28.992>idees <01:27:29.248>te <01:27:29.504>verdedig <01:27:29.760>nie, <01:27:30.016>dit <01:27:30.272>is <01:27:30.528>nie <01:27:30.784>meer <01:27:31.040>die 01:27:31.189 --> 01:27:31.199 align:start position:0% om jou idees te verdedig nie, dit is nie meer die 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:33.189 align:start position:0% om jou idees te verdedig nie, dit is nie meer die geval <01:27:31.462>dat <01:27:31.725>jy <01:27:31.988>na <01:27:32.251>'n <01:27:32.514>konferensie <01:27:32.777>gaan <01:27:33.040>en 01:27:33.189 --> 01:27:33.199 align:start position:0% geval dat jy na 'n konferensie gaan en 01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:35.430 align:start position:0% geval dat jy na 'n konferensie gaan en jou <01:27:33.487>idees <01:27:33.775>verdedig <01:27:34.063>teenoor <01:27:34.351>twee <01:27:34.639>ander 01:27:35.430 --> 01:27:35.440 align:start position:0% jou idees verdedig teenoor twee ander 01:27:35.440 --> 01:27:37.270 align:start position:0% jou idees verdedig teenoor twee ander uh <01:27:35.691>nerds <01:27:35.942>wat <01:27:36.193>werk <01:27:36.444>al <01:27:36.695>vir <01:27:36.946>altyd <01:27:37.197>aan 01:27:37.270 --> 01:27:37.280 align:start position:0% uh nerds wat werk al vir altyd aan 01:27:37.280 --> 01:27:39.830 align:start position:0% uh nerds wat werk al vir altyd aan dieselfde <01:27:37.611>probleem, <01:27:37.942>ek <01:27:38.273>bedoel <01:27:38.604>seker <01:27:38.935>jy <01:27:39.266>kan <01:27:39.597>dit 01:27:39.830 --> 01:27:39.840 align:start position:0% dieselfde probleem, ek bedoel seker jy kan dit 01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:42.229 align:start position:0% dieselfde probleem, ek bedoel seker jy kan dit doen, <01:27:40.239>maar <01:27:40.638>dan 01:27:42.229 --> 01:27:42.239 align:start position:0% doen, maar dan 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:45.590 align:start position:0% doen, maar dan verwerp <01:27:42.671>jy <01:27:43.103>die <01:27:43.535>verantwoordelikheid <01:27:43.967>wat <01:27:44.399>jy 01:27:45.590 --> 01:27:45.600 align:start position:0% verwerp jy die verantwoordelikheid wat jy 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:48.149 align:start position:0% verwerp jy die verantwoordelikheid wat jy uitdruklik <01:27:46.080>of <01:27:46.560>implisiet <01:27:47.040>aanvaar <01:27:47.520>het <01:27:48.000>wanneer 01:27:48.149 --> 01:27:48.159 align:start position:0% uitdruklik of implisiet aanvaar het wanneer 01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:50.229 align:start position:0% uitdruklik of implisiet aanvaar het wanneer jy <01:27:48.479>in <01:27:48.799>hierdie <01:27:49.119>veld <01:27:49.439>gaan <01:27:49.759>dat <01:27:50.079>jy 01:27:50.229 --> 01:27:50.239 align:start position:0% jy in hierdie veld gaan dat jy 01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:53.030 align:start position:0% jy in hierdie veld gaan dat jy die <01:27:50.479>idees <01:27:50.719>van <01:27:50.959>waarheid <01:27:51.199>sal <01:27:51.439>verdedig <01:27:51.679>en <01:27:51.919>die <01:27:52.159>manier <01:27:52.399>om <01:27:52.639>dit <01:27:52.879>te 01:27:53.030 --> 01:27:53.040 align:start position:0% die idees van waarheid sal verdedig en die manier om dit te 01:27:53.040 --> 01:27:55.750 align:start position:0% die idees van waarheid sal verdedig en die manier om dit te verdedig <01:27:53.456>is <01:27:53.872>in <01:27:54.288>die <01:27:54.704>oop <01:27:55.120>slagveld 01:27:55.750 --> 01:27:55.760 align:start position:0% verdedig is in die oop slagveld 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:57.830 align:start position:0% verdedig is in die oop slagveld van <01:27:56.112>idees <01:27:56.464>en <01:27:56.816>word <01:27:57.168>'n <01:27:57.520>beter 01:27:57.830 --> 01:27:57.840 align:start position:0% van idees en word 'n beter 01:27:57.840 --> 01:27:59.350 align:start position:0% van idees en word 'n beter kommunikeerder 01:27:59.350 --> 01:27:59.360 align:start position:0% kommunikeerder 01:27:59.360 --> 01:28:00.950 align:start position:0% kommunikeerder en <01:27:59.519>ek <01:27:59.678>glo <01:27:59.837>dat <01:27:59.996>wanneer <01:28:00.155>jy <01:28:00.314>'n <01:28:00.473>groot <01:28:00.632>het, 01:28:00.950 --> 01:28:00.960 align:start position:0% en ek glo dat wanneer jy 'n groot het, 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:02.550 align:start position:0% en ek glo dat wanneer jy 'n groot het, jy <01:28:01.119>gesê <01:28:01.278>het <01:28:01.437>jy <01:28:01.596>het <01:28:01.755>een <01:28:01.914>of <01:28:02.073>twee <01:28:02.232>uur 01:28:02.550 --> 01:28:02.560 align:start position:0% jy gesê het jy het een of twee uur 01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:05.030 align:start position:0% jy gesê het jy het een of twee uur in <01:28:02.799>hierdie <01:28:03.038>spesifieke <01:28:03.277>belê, <01:28:03.516>maar <01:28:03.755>dit 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stilstaan om feite na te gaan kyk na die studie 01:31:03.040 --> 01:31:05.110 align:start position:0% te stilstaan om feite na te gaan kyk na die studie wat <01:31:03.302>genoem <01:31:03.564>is <01:31:03.826>om <01:31:04.088>te <01:31:04.350>verstaan <01:31:04.612>wat <01:31:04.874>aanga 01:31:05.110 --> 01:31:05.120 align:start position:0% wat genoem is om te verstaan wat aanga 01:31:05.120 --> 01:31:07.590 align:start position:0% wat genoem is om te verstaan wat aanga n, <01:31:05.346>so <01:31:05.572>die <01:31:05.798>eweknie-evaluering <01:31:06.024>proses <01:31:06.250>om <01:31:06.476>'n 01:31:07.590 --> 01:31:07.600 align:start position:0% n, so die eweknie-evaluering proses om 'n 01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:09.590 align:start position:0% n, so die eweknie-evaluering proses om 'n bietjie <01:31:07.952>tyd <01:31:08.304>te <01:31:08.656>hê <01:31:09.008>wat <01:31:09.360>baie 01:31:09.590 --> 01:31:09.600 align:start position:0% bietjie tyd te hê wat baie 01:31:09.600 --> 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01:31:33.669 --> 01:31:33.679 align:start position:0% hul argumente gelees het nie, 01:31:33.679 --> 01:31:36.310 align:start position:0% hul argumente gelees het nie, maar <01:31:34.079>dit <01:31:34.479>is <01:31:34.879>fassinerend <01:31:35.279>hoe <01:31:35.679>konsekwent <01:31:36.079>en 01:31:36.310 --> 01:31:36.320 align:start position:0% maar dit is fassinerend hoe konsekwent en 01:31:36.320 --> 01:31:38.149 align:start position:0% maar dit is fassinerend hoe konsekwent en oortuigend <01:31:36.600>dit <01:31:36.880>alles <01:31:37.160>klink <01:31:37.440>as <01:31:37.720>jy <01:31:38.000>dit 01:31:38.149 --> 01:31:38.159 align:start position:0% oortuigend dit alles klink as jy dit 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.870 align:start position:0% oortuigend dit alles klink as jy dit net <01:31:38.665>inneem, <01:31:39.171>net <01:31:39.677>soos 01:31:40.870 --> 01:31:40.880 align:start position:0% net inneem, net soos 01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:42.709 align:start position:0% net inneem, net 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01:31:49.040 --> 01:31:50.629 align:start position:0% nee, 01:31:50.629 --> 01:31:50.639 align:start position:0% nee, 01:31:50.639 --> 01:31:53.350 align:start position:0% nee, so <01:31:51.119>die <01:31:51.599>ding <01:31:52.079>is 01:31:53.350 --> 01:31:53.360 align:start position:0% so die ding is 01:31:53.360 --> 01:31:55.430 align:start position:0% so die ding is die <01:31:53.759>realiteit <01:31:54.158>is 01:31:55.430 --> 01:31:55.440 align:start position:0% die realiteit is 01:31:55.440 --> 01:31:57.510 align:start position:0% die realiteit is op <01:31:55.714>die <01:31:55.988>baie <01:31:56.262>basiese <01:31:56.536>menslike <01:31:56.810>vlak <01:31:57.084>met <01:31:57.358>ons 01:31:57.510 --> 01:31:57.520 align:start position:0% op die baie basiese menslike vlak met ons 01:31:57.520 --> 01:31:59.030 align:start position:0% op die baie basiese menslike vlak met ons beperkte <01:31:57.920>kognitiewe 01:31:59.030 --> 01:31:59.040 align:start position:0% beperkte kognitiewe 01:31:59.040 --> 01:32:00.550 align:start position:0% beperkte kognitiewe vermoëns 01:32:00.550 --> 01:32:00.560 align:start position:0% vermoëns 01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:03.110 align:start position:0% vermoëns die <01:32:00.946>aarde <01:32:01.332>is <01:32:01.718>redelik <01:32:02.104>plat <01:32:02.490>as <01:32:02.876>jy 01:32:03.110 --> 01:32:03.120 align:start position:0% die aarde is redelik plat as jy 01:32:03.120 --> 01:32:05.110 align:start position:0% die aarde is redelik plat as jy buite <01:32:03.315>gaan <01:32:03.510>en <01:32:03.705>jy <01:32:03.900>lyk <01:32:04.095>dit <01:32:04.290>is <01:32:04.485>plat <01:32:04.680>so <01:32:04.875>soos 01:32:05.110 --> 01:32:05.120 align:start position:0% buite gaan en jy lyk dit is plat so soos 01:32:05.120 --> 01:32:07.990 align:start position:0% buite gaan en jy lyk dit is plat so soos wanneer <01:32:05.386>jy <01:32:05.652>gesonde <01:32:05.918>verstand <01:32:06.184>redenasie <01:32:06.450>gebruik <01:32:06.716>is 01:32:07.990 --> 01:32:08.000 align:start position:0% wanneer jy gesonde verstand redenasie gebruik is 01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:09.990 align:start position:0% wanneer jy gesonde verstand redenasie gebruik is dit <01:32:08.204>baie <01:32:08.408>maklik <01:32:08.612>om <01:32:08.816>daarmee <01:32:09.020>te <01:32:09.224>speel <01:32:09.428>om <01:32:09.632>jou <01:32:09.836>te 01:32:09.990 --> 01:32:10.000 align:start position:0% dit baie maklik om daarmee te speel om jou te 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.149 align:start position:0% dit baie maklik om daarmee te speel om jou te oortuig <01:32:10.320>dat <01:32:10.640>die <01:32:10.960>aarde <01:32:11.280>is <01:32:11.600>plat <01:32:11.920>plus 01:32:12.149 --> 01:32:12.159 align:start position:0% oortuig dat die aarde is plat plus 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:13.830 align:start position:0% oortuig dat die aarde is plat plus daar <01:32:12.463>is <01:32:12.767>magtige <01:32:13.071>organisasies <01:32:13.375>wat <01:32:13.679>jou 01:32:13.830 --> 01:32:13.840 align:start position:0% daar is magtige organisasies wat jou 01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:17.270 align:start position:0% daar is magtige organisasies wat jou wil <01:32:14.320>manipuleer <01:32:14.800>en <01:32:15.280>so <01:32:15.760>aan 01:32:17.270 --> 01:32:17.280 align:start position:0% wil manipuleer en so aan 01:32:17.280 --> 01:32:19.590 align:start position:0% wil manipuleer en so aan maar <01:32:17.565>dan <01:32:17.850>is <01:32:18.135>daar <01:32:18.420>jy <01:32:18.705>ken <01:32:18.990>die <01:32:19.275>hele 01:32:19.590 --> 01:32:19.600 align:start position:0% maar dan is daar jy ken die hele 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:21.750 align:start position:0% maar dan is daar jy ken die hele vordering <01:32:19.933>van <01:32:20.266>wetenskap <01:32:20.599>en <01:32:20.932>fisika <01:32:21.265>van <01:32:21.598>die 01:32:21.750 --> 01:32:21.760 align:start position:0% vordering van wetenskap en fisika van die 01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:23.430 align:start position:0% vordering van wetenskap en fisika van die verlede <01:32:22.560>maar 01:32:23.430 --> 01:32:23.440 align:start position:0% verlede maar 01:32:23.440 --> 01:32:25.350 align:start position:0% verlede maar dis <01:32:23.706>moeilik <01:32:23.972>om <01:32:24.238>te <01:32:24.504>integreer <01:32:24.770>in <01:32:25.036>jou 01:32:25.350 --> 01:32:25.360 align:start position:0% dis moeilik om te integreer in jou 01:32:25.360 --> 01:32:27.430 align:start position:0% dis moeilik om te integreer in jou denkproses <01:32:25.819>so <01:32:26.278>dis <01:32:26.737>baie <01:32:27.196>waar 01:32:27.430 --> 01:32:27.440 align:start position:0% denkproses so dis baie waar 01:32:27.440 --> 01:32:28.870 align:start position:0% denkproses so dis baie waar dat <01:32:28.000>die 01:32:28.870 --> 01:32:28.880 align:start position:0% dat die 01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:30.709 align:start position:0% dat die mense <01:32:29.168>na <01:32:29.456>plat <01:32:29.744>moet <01:32:30.032>luister <01:32:30.320>aarders, 01:32:30.709 --> 01:32:30.719 align:start position:0% mense na plat moet luister aarders, 01:32:30.719 --> 01:32:31.669 align:start position:0% mense na plat moet luister aarders, want 01:32:31.669 --> 01:32:31.679 align:start position:0% want 01:32:31.679 --> 01:32:34.390 align:start position:0% want dit <01:32:32.063>was <01:32:32.447>vir <01:32:32.831>my <01:32:33.215>baie <01:32:33.599>onthullend 01:32:34.390 --> 01:32:34.400 align:start position:0% dit was vir my baie onthullend 01:32:34.400 --> 01:32:36.790 align:start position:0% dit was vir my baie onthullend hoe <01:32:34.631>maklik <01:32:34.862>dit <01:32:35.093>is <01:32:35.324>om <01:32:35.555>van <01:32:35.786>basies <01:32:36.017>enigiets <01:32:36.248>oortuig <01:32:36.479>te <01:32:36.710>word 01:32:36.790 --> 01:32:39.270 align:start position:0% hoe maklik dit is om van basies enigiets oortuig te word 01:32:39.270 --> 01:32:39.280 align:start position:0% 01:32:39.280 --> 01:32:42.870 align:start position:0% deur <01:32:39.800>uh <01:32:40.320>uh <01:32:40.840>charismatiese <01:32:41.360>uh <01:32:41.880>argumente <01:32:42.400>reg 01:32:42.870 --> 01:32:42.880 align:start position:0% deur uh uh charismatiese uh argumente reg 01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:44.629 align:start position:0% deur uh uh charismatiese uh argumente reg en <01:32:43.146>as <01:32:43.412>ons <01:32:43.678>stry <01:32:43.944>oor <01:32:44.210>of <01:32:44.476>die 01:32:44.629 --> 01:32:44.639 align:start position:0% en as ons stry oor of die 01:32:44.639 --> 01:32:47.189 align:start position:0% en as ons stry oor of die fla <01:32:44.993>aarde <01:32:45.347>plat <01:32:45.701>is <01:32:46.055>of <01:32:46.409>nie <01:32:46.763>uh <01:32:47.117>solank 01:32:47.189 --> 01:32:47.199 align:start position:0% fla aarde plat is of nie uh solank 01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:49.030 align:start position:0% fla aarde plat is of nie uh solank ons' <01:32:47.452>jy <01:32:47.705>navigeer <01:32:47.958>nie <01:32:48.211>vliegtuie <01:32:48.464>en <01:32:48.717>doen 01:32:49.030 --> 01:32:49.040 align:start position:0% ons' jy navigeer nie vliegtuie en doen 01:32:49.040 --> 01:32:50.790 align:start position:0% ons' jy navigeer nie vliegtuie en doen ander <01:32:49.386>soorte <01:32:49.732>dinge <01:32:50.078>om 01:32:50.790 --> 01:32:50.800 align:start position:0% ander soorte dinge om 01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:53.669 align:start position:0% ander soorte dinge om satelliete <01:32:50.979>te <01:32:51.158>kry <01:32:51.337>om <01:32:51.516>transmissie <01:32:51.695>te <01:32:51.874>doen <01:32:52.053>nie, <01:32:52.232>is 01:32:53.669 --> 01:32:53.679 align:start position:0% satelliete te kry om transmissie te doen nie, is 01:32:53.679 --> 01:32:56.070 align:start position:0% satelliete te kry om transmissie te doen nie, is dit <01:32:53.907>nie <01:32:54.135>so <01:32:54.363>belangrik <01:32:54.591>wat <01:32:54.819>ons <01:32:55.047>glo <01:32:55.275>nie, 01:32:56.070 --> 01:32:56.080 align:start position:0% dit nie so belangrik wat ons glo nie, 01:32:56.080 --> 01:32:58.229 align:start position:0% dit nie so belangrik wat ons glo nie, maar <01:32:56.400>as <01:32:56.720>ons <01:32:57.040>stry <01:32:57.360>oor 01:32:58.229 --> 01:32:58.239 align:start position:0% maar as ons stry oor 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:00.390 align:start position:0% maar as ons stry oor hoe <01:32:58.545>ons <01:32:58.851>nader <01:32:59.157>die <01:32:59.463>ergste <01:32:59.769>openbare <01:33:00.075>gesondheidskrisis 01:33:00.390 --> 01:33:00.400 align:start position:0% hoe ons nader die ergste openbare gesondheidskrisis 01:33:00.400 --> 01:33:01.510 align:start position:0% hoe ons nader die ergste openbare gesondheidskrisis 01:33:01.510 --> 01:33:01.520 align:start position:0% 01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:02.229 align:start position:0% in 01:33:02.229 --> 01:33:02.239 align:start position:0% in 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:03.669 align:start position:0% in ek <01:33:02.367>weet <01:33:02.495>nie <01:33:02.623>hoe <01:33:02.751>lank <01:33:02.879>ek <01:33:03.007>dink <01:33:03.135>ons <01:33:03.263>word <01:33:03.391>nou <01:33:03.519>e 01:33:03.669 --> 01:33:03.679 align:start position:0% ek weet nie hoe lank ek dink ons word nou e 01:33:03.679 --> 01:33:05.910 align:start position:0% ek weet nie hoe lank ek dink ons word nou e ger <01:33:03.884>as <01:33:04.089>die <01:33:04.294>Spaanse <01:33:04.499>griep <01:33:04.704>nie, <01:33:04.909>ek <01:33:05.114>we 01:33:05.910 --> 01:33:05.920 align:start position:0% ger as die Spaanse griep nie, ek we 01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:07.350 align:start position:0% ger as die Spaanse griep nie, ek we t <01:33:06.106>nie <01:33:06.292>wat <01:33:06.478>die <01:33:06.664>totale <01:33:06.850>globale <01:33:07.036>sterf 01:33:07.350 --> 01:33:07.360 align:start position:0% t nie wat die totale globale sterf 01:33:07.360 --> 01:33:09.430 align:start position:0% t nie wat die totale globale sterf es <01:33:07.582>met <01:33:07.804>Spaanse <01:33:08.026>griep <01:33:08.248>was <01:33:08.470>nie, <01:33:08.692>maar <01:33:08.914>in <01:33:09.136>die <01:33:09.358>Veren 01:33:09.430 --> 01:33:09.440 align:start position:0% es met Spaanse griep was nie, maar in die Veren 01:33:09.440 --> 01:33:10.709 align:start position:0% es met Spaanse griep was nie, maar in die Veren gde <01:33:09.626>State <01:33:09.812>het <01:33:09.998>ons <01:33:10.184>beslis <01:33:10.370>meer <01:33:10.556>sterf 01:33:10.709 --> 01:33:10.719 align:start position:0% gde State het ons beslis meer sterf 01:33:10.719 --> 01:33:12.550 align:start position:0% gde State het ons beslis meer sterf es <01:33:10.896>as <01:33:11.073>wat <01:33:11.250>ons <01:33:11.427>gehad <01:33:11.604>het <01:33:11.781>van <01:33:11.958>Spaanse <01:33:12.135>griep <01:33:12.312>plus 01:33:12.550 --> 01:33:12.560 align:start position:0% es as wat ons gehad het van Spaanse griep plus 01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:15.750 align:start position:0% es as wat ons gehad het van Spaanse griep plus die <01:33:13.013>ekonomiese <01:33:13.466>pyn <01:33:13.919>en <01:33:14.372>lyding <01:33:14.825>ja <01:33:15.278>ja 01:33:15.750 --> 01:33:15.760 align:start position:0% die ekonomiese pyn en lyding ja ja 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:19.030 align:start position:0% die ekonomiese pyn en lyding ja ja en <01:33:16.115>die <01:33:16.470>skade <01:33:16.825>aan <01:33:17.180>die <01:33:17.535>kinders <01:33:17.890>in <01:33:18.245>die <01:33:18.600>skool <01:33:18.955>en 01:33:19.030 --> 01:33:19.040 align:start position:0% en die skade aan die kinders in die skool en 01:33:19.040 --> 01:33:19.750 align:start position:0% en die skade aan die kinders in die skool en dinge, 01:33:19.750 --> 01:33:19.760 align:start position:0% dinge, 01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:21.910 align:start position:0% dinge, ons <01:33:19.955>het <01:33:20.150>'n <01:33:20.345>probleem <01:33:20.540>en <01:33:20.735>dit <01:33:20.930>gaan <01:33:21.125>ongelukkig <01:33:21.320>nie <01:33:21.515>weg 01:33:21.910 --> 01:33:21.920 align:start position:0% ons het 'n probleem en dit gaan ongelukkig nie weg 01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:23.990 align:start position:0% ons het 'n probleem en dit gaan ongelukkig nie weg nie <01:33:22.213>so <01:33:22.506>as <01:33:22.799>ons <01:33:23.092>so <01:33:23.385>'n <01:33:23.678>probleem 01:33:23.990 --> 01:33:24.000 align:start position:0% nie so as ons so 'n probleem 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:27.110 align:start position:0% nie so as ons so 'n probleem kry <01:33:24.359>is <01:33:24.718>dit <01:33:25.077>nie <01:33:25.436>net <01:33:25.795>'n <01:33:26.154>interessante 01:33:27.110 --> 01:33:27.120 align:start position:0% kry is dit nie net 'n interessante 01:33:27.120 --> 01:33:28.950 align:start position:0% kry is dit nie net 'n interessante kroegkamer <01:33:27.560>gesprek <01:33:28.000>oor <01:33:28.440>of <01:33:28.880>die 01:33:28.950 --> 01:33:28.960 align:start position:0% kroegkamer gesprek oor of die 01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:30.229 align:start position:0% kroegkamer gesprek oor of die aarde <01:33:29.160>plat <01:33:29.360>is 01:33:30.229 --> 01:33:30.239 align:start position:0% aarde plat is 01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:34.229 align:start position:0% aarde plat is dit <01:33:30.559>is <01:33:30.879>daar <01:33:31.199>miljoene <01:33:31.519>lewens <01:33:31.839>betrokke, 01:33:34.229 --> 01:33:34.239 align:start position:0% dit is daar miljoene lewens betrokke, 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:37.189 align:start position:0% dit is daar miljoene lewens betrokke, laat <01:33:34.585>ek <01:33:34.931>jou <01:33:35.277>nog <01:33:35.623>'n <01:33:35.969>vraag <01:33:36.315>vra 01:33:37.189 --> 01:33:37.199 align:start position:0% laat ek jou nog 'n vraag vra 01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:39.590 align:start position:0% laat ek jou nog 'n vraag vra wat <01:33:37.496>ek <01:33:37.793>met <01:33:38.090>Faisal <01:33:38.387>se <01:33:38.684>uitvoerende <01:33:38.981>hoof, <01:33:39.278>albert 01:33:39.590 --> 01:33:39.600 align:start position:0% wat ek met Faisal se uitvoerende hoof, albert 01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:41.990 align:start position:0% wat ek met Faisal se uitvoerende hoof, albert berla geopper het, 01:33:41.990 --> 01:33:42.000 align:start position:0% berla geopper het, 01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.270 align:start position:0% berla geopper het, dit <01:33:42.368>is <01:33:42.736>die <01:33:43.104>vraag <01:33:43.472>van <01:33:43.840>draaideure 01:33:45.270 --> 01:33:45.280 align:start position:0% dit is die vraag van draaideure 01:33:45.280 --> 01:33:47.350 align:start position:0% dit is die vraag van draaideure dat <01:33:45.648>daar <01:33:46.016>blykbaar <01:33:46.384>'n <01:33:46.752>draaideur <01:33:47.120>is 01:33:47.350 --> 01:33:47.360 align:start position:0% dat daar blykbaar 'n draaideur is 01:33:47.360 --> 01:33:50.950 align:start position:0% dat daar blykbaar 'n draaideur is tussen <01:33:47.880>pfizer <01:33:48.400>fda <01:33:48.920>en <01:33:49.440>cdc 01:33:50.950 --> 01:33:50.960 align:start position:0% tussen pfizer fda en cdc 01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:53.430 align:start position:0% tussen pfizer fda en cdc mense <01:33:51.333>wat <01:33:51.706>het <01:33:52.079>by <01:33:52.452>die <01:33:52.825>fda <01:33:53.198>gewerk 01:33:53.430 --> 01:33:53.440 align:start position:0% mense wat het by die fda gewerk 01:33:53.440 --> 01:33:56.390 align:start position:0% mense wat het by die fda gewerk werk <01:33:53.808>nou <01:33:54.176>by <01:33:54.544>pfizer <01:33:54.912>en <01:33:55.280>omgekeerd 01:33:56.390 --> 01:33:56.400 align:start position:0% werk nou by pfizer en omgekeerd 01:33:56.400 --> 01:34:00.629 align:start position:0% werk nou by pfizer en omgekeerd sluit <01:33:56.651>in <01:33:56.902>die <01:33:57.153>cdc <01:33:57.404>in <01:33:57.655>en <01:33:57.906>so <01:33:58.157>aan 01:34:00.629 --> 01:34:00.639 align:start position:0% 01:34:00.639 --> 01:34:02.229 align:start position:0% wat <01:34:00.892>dink <01:34:01.145>jy <01:34:01.398>daarvan <01:34:01.651>so <01:34:01.904>eerstens <01:34:02.157>is 01:34:02.229 --> 01:34:02.239 align:start position:0% wat dink jy daarvan so eerstens is 01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.310 align:start position:0% wat dink jy daarvan so eerstens is sy <01:34:02.679>reaksie <01:34:03.119>weereens <01:34:03.559>daar <01:34:03.999>is 01:34:04.310 --> 01:34:04.320 align:start position:0% sy reaksie weereens daar is 01:34:04.320 --> 01:34:06.629 align:start position:0% sy reaksie weereens daar is reëls <01:34:04.617>daar <01:34:04.914>is <01:34:05.211>baie <01:34:05.508>streng <01:34:05.805>reëls <01:34:06.102>en <01:34:06.399>ons 01:34:06.629 --> 01:34:06.639 align:start position:0% reëls daar is baie streng reëls en ons 01:34:06.639 --> 01:34:08.629 align:start position:0% reëls daar is baie streng reëls en ons volg <01:34:07.040>hulle 01:34:08.629 --> 01:34:08.639 align:start position:0% volg hulle 01:34:08.639 --> 01:34:12.870 align:start position:0% volg hulle dink <01:34:08.879>jy <01:34:09.119>dis <01:34:09.359>'n <01:34:09.599>probleem 01:34:12.870 --> 01:34:12.880 align:start position:0% 01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:14.629 align:start position:0% en <01:34:13.057>dalk <01:34:13.234>is <01:34:13.411>dit <01:34:13.588>ook <01:34:13.765>'n <01:34:13.942>goeie <01:34:14.119>tyd <01:34:14.296>om <01:34:14.473>te 01:34:14.629 --> 01:34:14.639 align:start position:0% en dalk is dit ook 'n goeie tyd om te 01:34:14.639 --> 01:34:16.149 align:start position:0% en dalk is dit ook 'n goeie tyd om te praat <01:34:14.880>oor 01:34:16.149 --> 01:34:16.159 align:start position:0% praat oor 01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:18.950 align:start position:0% praat oor hierdie <01:34:16.342>pfizer <01:34:16.525>wat <01:34:16.708>deur <01:34:16.891>die <01:34:17.074>reëls <01:34:17.257>gespeel <01:34:17.440>word 01:34:18.950 --> 01:34:18.960 align:start position:0% hierdie pfizer wat deur die reëls gespeel word 01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:21.189 align:start position:0% hierdie pfizer wat deur die reëls gespeel word kom <01:34:19.200>ons <01:34:19.440>een <01:34:19.680>op <01:34:19.920>'n <01:34:20.160>slag <01:34:20.400>een <01:34:20.640>keer <01:34:20.880>okay <01:34:21.120>en 01:34:21.189 --> 01:34:21.199 align:start position:0% kom ons een op 'n slag een keer okay en 01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:23.270 align:start position:0% kom ons een op 'n slag een keer okay en dit <01:34:21.391>gaan <01:34:21.583>nie <01:34:21.775>eers <01:34:21.967>oor <01:34:22.159>pfizer <01:34:22.351>nie <01:34:22.543>maar <01:34:22.735>dit <01:34:22.927>is <01:34:23.119>'n 01:34:23.270 --> 01:34:23.280 align:start position:0% dit gaan nie eers oor pfizer nie maar dit is 'n 01:34:23.280 --> 01:34:25.669 align:start position:0% dit gaan nie eers oor pfizer nie maar dit is 'n antwoord <01:34:23.577>op <01:34:23.874>die <01:34:24.171>vraag <01:34:24.468>ja <01:34:24.765>so <01:34:25.062>daar <01:34:25.359>is 01:34:25.669 --> 01:34:25.679 align:start position:0% antwoord op die vraag ja so daar is 01:34:25.679 --> 01:34:28.229 align:start position:0% antwoord op die vraag ja so daar is hierdie <01:34:26.022>dwelm-agia-helm <01:34:26.365>wat <01:34:26.708>deur <01:34:27.051>die <01:34:27.394>FDA <01:34:27.737>goedgekeur <01:34:28.080>is, 01:34:28.229 --> 01:34:28.239 align:start position:0% hierdie dwelm-agia-helm wat deur die FDA goedgekeur is, 01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:31.590 align:start position:0% hierdie dwelm-agia-helm wat deur die FDA goedgekeur is, uh <01:34:28.707>miskien <01:34:29.175>ses <01:34:29.643>maande <01:34:30.111>gelede <01:34:30.579>is <01:34:31.047>dit <01:34:31.515>'n 01:34:31.590 --> 01:34:31.600 align:start position:0% uh miskien ses maande gelede is dit 'n 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:32.629 align:start position:0% uh miskien ses maande gelede is dit 'n middel 01:34:32.629 --> 01:34:32.639 align:start position:0% middel 01:34:32.639 --> 01:34:34.870 align:start position:0% middel om <01:34:33.199>die <01:34:33.759>vordering 01:34:34.870 --> 01:34:34.880 align:start position:0% om die vordering 01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:38.310 align:start position:0% om die vordering van <01:34:35.260>laegraadse <01:34:35.640>Alzheimersiekte <01:34:36.020>te <01:34:36.400>voorkom. 01:34:38.310 --> 01:34:38.320 align:start position:0% van laegraadse Alzheimersiekte te voorkom. 01:34:38.320 --> 01:34:41.189 align:start position:0% van laegraadse Alzheimersiekte te voorkom. Die <01:34:39.040>teiken <01:34:39.760>vir 01:34:41.189 --> 01:34:41.199 align:start position:0% Die teiken vir 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:43.590 align:start position:0% Die teiken vir geneesmiddelontwikkeling <01:34:42.880>vir 01:34:43.590 --> 01:34:43.600 align:start position:0% geneesmiddelontwikkeling vir 01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:45.910 align:start position:0% geneesmiddelontwikkeling vir Alzheimersiekte <01:34:44.000>was <01:34:44.400>die <01:34:44.800>amiloïed <01:34:45.200>wat <01:34:45.600>die 01:34:45.910 --> 01:34:45.920 align:start position:0% Alzheimersiekte was die amiloïed wat die 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.149 align:start position:0% Alzheimersiekte was die amiloïed wat die amiloïedplate <01:34:46.304>in <01:34:46.688>die <01:34:47.072>brein <01:34:47.456>verminder <01:34:47.840>wat 01:34:48.149 --> 01:34:48.159 align:start position:0% amiloïedplate in die brein verminder wat 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:50.310 align:start position:0% amiloïedplate in die brein verminder wat korreleer <01:34:48.452>met <01:34:48.745>die <01:34:49.038>vordering 01:34:50.310 --> 01:34:50.320 align:start position:0% korreleer met die vordering 01:34:50.320 --> 01:34:52.149 align:start position:0% korreleer met die vordering van <01:34:50.960>Alzheimer's 01:34:52.149 --> 01:34:52.159 align:start position:0% van Alzheimer's 01:34:52.159 --> 01:34:53.030 align:start position:0% van Alzheimer's en 01:34:53.030 --> 01:34:53.040 align:start position:0% en 01:34:53.040 --> 01:34:54.870 align:start position:0% en biogeen <01:34:53.400>het <01:34:53.760>getoon 01:34:54.870 --> 01:34:54.880 align:start position:0% biogeen het getoon 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:55.750 align:start position:0% biogeen het getoon dat 01:34:55.750 --> 01:34:55.760 align:start position:0% dat 01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:59.510 align:start position:0% dat sy <01:34:57.479>dwelm-agileem <01:34:59.198>amiloïedplate 01:34:59.510 --> 01:34:59.520 align:start position:0% sy dwelm-agileem amiloïedplate 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:00.950 align:start position:0% sy dwelm-agileem amiloïedplate in <01:34:59.559>die <01:34:59.598>brein <01:34:59.637>verminder, <01:34:59.676>het 01:35:00.950 --> 01:35:00.960 align:start position:0% in die brein verminder, het 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.109 align:start position:0% in die brein verminder, het hulle <01:35:01.460>twee <01:35:01.960>kliniese <01:35:02.460>toetse <01:35:02.960>gedoen 01:35:03.109 --> 01:35:03.119 align:start position:0% hulle twee kliniese toetse gedoen 01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:05.510 align:start position:0% hulle twee kliniese toetse gedoen om <01:35:03.343>die <01:35:03.567>kliniese <01:35:03.791>doeltreffendheid <01:35:04.015>te <01:35:04.239>bepaal 01:35:05.510 --> 01:35:05.520 align:start position:0% om die kliniese doeltreffendheid te bepaal 01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:07.830 align:start position:0% om die kliniese doeltreffendheid te bepaal en <01:35:05.662>hulle <01:35:05.804>het <01:35:05.946>gevind <01:35:06.088>dat <01:35:06.230>nie <01:35:06.372>een <01:35:06.514>van <01:35:06.656>die <01:35:06.798>toetse 01:35:07.830 --> 01:35:07.840 align:start position:0% en hulle het gevind dat nie een van die toetse 01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:09.910 align:start position:0% en hulle het gevind dat nie een van die toetse 'n <01:35:08.015>betekenisvolle <01:35:08.190>voordeel <01:35:08.365>getoon <01:35:08.540>het <01:35:08.715>nie 01:35:09.910 --> 01:35:09.920 align:start position:0% 'n betekenisvolle voordeel getoon het nie 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:12.149 align:start position:0% 'n betekenisvolle voordeel getoon het nie en <01:35:10.160>in <01:35:10.400>daardie <01:35:10.640>twee <01:35:10.880>proewe 01:35:12.149 --> 01:35:12.159 align:start position:0% en in daardie twee proewe 01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:15.189 align:start position:0% en in daardie twee proewe 33 <01:35:12.545>persent <01:35:12.931>meer <01:35:13.317>mense <01:35:13.703>in <01:35:14.089>die <01:35:14.475>agi 01:35:15.189 --> 01:35:15.199 align:start position:0% 33 persent meer mense in die agi 01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.990 align:start position:0% 33 persent meer mense in die agi -helmgroep <01:35:15.972>ontwikkel <01:35:16.745>simptomatiese <01:35:17.518>breinswelling 01:35:17.990 --> 01:35:18.000 align:start position:0% -helmgroep ontwikkel simptomatiese breinswelling 01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:20.310 align:start position:0% -helmgroep ontwikkel simptomatiese breinswelling en <01:35:18.279>bloeding <01:35:18.558>as <01:35:18.837>mense <01:35:19.116>in <01:35:19.395>die <01:35:19.674>placebo- 01:35:20.310 --> 01:35:20.320 align:start position:0% en bloeding as mense in die placebo- 01:35:20.320 --> 01:35:21.990 align:start position:0% en bloeding as mense in die placebo- groep 01:35:21.990 --> 01:35:22.000 align:start position:0% groep 01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:23.270 align:start position:0% groep daar <01:35:22.160>was <01:35:22.320>'n 01:35:23.270 --> 01:35:23.280 align:start position:0% daar was 'n 01:35:23.280 --> 01:35:25.109 align:start position:0% daar was 'n advieskomitee 01:35:25.109 --> 01:35:25.119 align:start position:0% advieskomitee 01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:27.030 align:start position:0% advieskomitee byeengeroep 01:35:27.030 --> 01:35:27.040 align:start position:0% byeengeroep 01:35:27.040 --> 01:35:28.390 align:start position:0% byeengeroep om 01:35:28.390 --> 01:35:28.400 align:start position:0% om 01:35:28.400 --> 01:35:30.709 align:start position:0% om die <01:35:28.685>en <01:35:28.970>bepaal <01:35:29.255>hoe <01:35:29.540>hulle <01:35:29.825>gevoel <01:35:30.110>het <01:35:30.395>oor 01:35:30.709 --> 01:35:30.719 align:start position:0% die en bepaal hoe hulle gevoel het oor 01:35:30.719 --> 01:35:33.270 align:start position:0% die en bepaal hoe hulle gevoel het oor die <01:35:31.183>goedkeuring <01:35:31.647>van <01:35:32.111>ratse <01:35:32.575>roer <01:35:33.039>gegewe 01:35:33.270 --> 01:35:33.280 align:start position:0% die goedkeuring van ratse roer gegewe 01:35:33.280 --> 01:35:35.030 align:start position:0% die goedkeuring van ratse roer gegewe daardie <01:35:33.600>feite 01:35:35.030 --> 01:35:35.040 align:start position:0% daardie feite 01:35:35.040 --> 01:35:37.030 align:start position:0% daardie feite en <01:35:35.268>daardie <01:35:35.496>feite <01:35:35.724>is <01:35:35.952>nie <01:35:36.180>in <01:35:36.408>dispuut <01:35:36.636>nie 01:35:37.030 --> 01:35:37.040 align:start position:0% en daardie feite is nie in dispuut nie 01:35:37.040 --> 01:35:39.750 align:start position:0% en daardie feite is nie in dispuut nie hulle <01:35:37.394>is <01:35:37.748>in <01:35:38.102>biogeen <01:35:38.456>skyfies <01:35:38.810>uh <01:35:39.164>sowel <01:35:39.518>as 01:35:39.750 --> 01:35:39.760 align:start position:0% hulle is in biogeen skyfies uh sowel as 01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:41.510 align:start position:0% hulle is in biogeen skyfies uh sowel as FDA-dokumente 01:35:41.510 --> 01:35:41.520 align:start position:0% FDA-dokumente 01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:43.830 align:start position:0% FDA-dokumente die <01:35:42.800>advieskomitee 01:35:43.830 --> 01:35:43.840 align:start position:0% die advieskomitee 01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:44.790 align:start position:0% die advieskomitee het 01:35:44.790 --> 01:35:44.800 align:start position:0% het 01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:45.669 align:start position:0% het 10 01:35:45.669 --> 01:35:45.679 align:start position:0% 10 01:35:45.679 --> 01:35:47.590 align:start position:0% 10 teen <01:35:45.959>goedkeuring <01:35:46.239>gestem 01:35:47.590 --> 01:35:47.600 align:start position:0% teen goedkeuring gestem 01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:49.910 align:start position:0% teen goedkeuring gestem en <01:35:47.780>een <01:35:47.960>onthou <01:35:48.140>van <01:35:48.320>stemming, 01:35:49.910 --> 01:35:49.920 align:start position:0% en een onthou van stemming, 01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:52.550 align:start position:0% en een onthou van stemming, so <01:35:50.159>dit <01:35:50.398>is <01:35:50.637>in <01:35:50.876>wese <01:35:51.115>universele 01:35:52.550 --> 01:35:52.560 align:start position:0% so dit is in wese universele 01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:56.149 align:start position:0% so dit is in wese universele eenparige <01:35:52.999>stemming <01:35:53.438>teen <01:35:53.877>die <01:35:54.316>goedkeuring <01:35:54.755>van <01:35:55.194>rats 01:35:56.149 --> 01:35:56.159 align:start position:0% eenparige stemming teen die goedkeuring van rats 01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:58.229 align:start position:0% eenparige stemming teen die goedkeuring van rats nou <01:35:56.612>is <01:35:57.065>die <01:35:57.518>advieskomitees 01:35:58.229 --> 01:35:58.239 align:start position:0% nou is die advieskomitees 01:35:58.239 --> 01:35:59.189 align:start position:0% nou is die advieskomitees 01:35:59.189 --> 01:35:59.199 align:start position:0% 01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:01.990 align:start position:0% redelik <01:35:59.859>skoongemaak <01:36:00.519>van <01:36:01.179>finansiële <01:36:01.839>belangebotsings 01:36:01.990 --> 01:36:02.000 align:start position:0% redelik skoongemaak van finansiële belangebotsings 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:03.189 align:start position:0% redelik skoongemaak van finansiële belangebotsings 01:36:03.189 --> 01:36:03.199 align:start position:0% 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:06.470 align:start position:0% so <01:36:03.619>hierdie <01:36:04.039>advieskomitee <01:36:04.459>stem <01:36:04.879>10 01:36:06.470 --> 01:36:06.480 align:start position:0% so hierdie advieskomitee stem 10 01:36:06.480 --> 01:36:09.189 align:start position:0% so hierdie advieskomitee stem 10 niemand <01:36:06.920>onthouding <01:36:07.360>nie 01:36:09.189 --> 01:36:09.199 align:start position:0% niemand onthouding nie 01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.990 align:start position:0% niemand onthouding nie en <01:36:09.519>die <01:36:09.839>FDA <01:36:10.159>ignoreer 01:36:11.990 --> 01:36:12.000 align:start position:0% en die FDA ignoreer 01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:13.830 align:start position:0% en die FDA ignoreer die <01:36:12.272>eenparige <01:36:12.544>mening <01:36:12.816>van <01:36:13.088>sy <01:36:13.360>advieskomitee 01:36:13.830 --> 01:36:13.840 align:start position:0% die eenparige mening van sy advieskomitee 01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:14.790 align:start position:0% die eenparige mening van sy advieskomitee 01:36:14.790 --> 01:36:14.800 align:start position:0% 01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:17.430 align:start position:0% en <01:36:15.000>keur <01:36:15.200>die <01:36:15.400>dwelm <01:36:15.600>goed 01:36:17.430 --> 01:36:17.440 align:start position:0% en keur die dwelm goed 01:36:17.440 --> 01:36:19.189 align:start position:0% en keur die dwelm goed drie <01:36:17.679>van <01:36:17.918>die <01:36:18.157>lede <01:36:18.396>van <01:36:18.635>die 01:36:19.189 --> 01:36:19.199 align:start position:0% drie van die lede van die 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.189 align:start position:0% drie van die lede van die advieskomitee <01:36:20.080>bedank 01:36:21.189 --> 01:36:21.199 align:start position:0% advieskomitee bedank 01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:22.390 align:start position:0% advieskomitee bedank hulle <01:36:21.385>sê <01:36:21.571>ons <01:36:21.757>gaan <01:36:21.943>nie <01:36:22.129>vertrek <01:36:22.315>as 01:36:22.390 --> 01:36:22.400 align:start position:0% hulle sê ons gaan nie vertrek as 01:36:22.400 --> 01:36:23.750 align:start position:0% hulle sê ons gaan nie vertrek as die <01:36:22.613>FDA <01:36:22.826>nie <01:36:23.039>gaan <01:36:23.252>luister <01:36:23.465>na <01:36:23.678>'n 01:36:23.750 --> 01:36:23.760 align:start position:0% die FDA nie gaan luister na 'n 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:25.669 align:start position:0% die FDA nie gaan luister na 'n eenparige <01:36:24.040>stemming <01:36:24.320>teen <01:36:24.600>die <01:36:24.880>goedkeuring <01:36:25.160>van <01:36:25.440>hierdie 01:36:25.669 --> 01:36:25.679 align:start position:0% eenparige stemming teen die goedkeuring van hierdie 01:36:25.679 --> 01:36:26.550 align:start position:0% eenparige stemming teen die goedkeuring van hierdie dwelm 01:36:26.550 --> 01:36:26.560 align:start position:0% dwelm 01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.510 align:start position:0% dwelm wat <01:36:26.800>meer <01:36:27.040>skade <01:36:27.280>as <01:36:27.520>voordeel <01:36:27.760>toon 01:36:29.510 --> 01:36:29.520 align:start position:0% wat meer skade as voordeel toon 01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:31.590 align:start position:0% wat meer skade as voordeel toon onbetwis nie, 01:36:31.590 --> 01:36:31.600 align:start position:0% onbetwis nie, 01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:33.750 align:start position:0% onbetwis nie, ons <01:36:31.888>gaan <01:36:32.176>nie <01:36:32.464>hieraan <01:36:32.752>deelneem <01:36:33.040>nie 01:36:33.750 --> 01:36:33.760 align:start position:0% ons gaan nie hieraan deelneem nie 01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:36.870 align:start position:0% ons gaan nie hieraan deelneem nie en <01:36:34.335>die <01:36:34.910>argument <01:36:35.485>teen <01:36:36.060>goedkeuring <01:36:36.635>is 01:36:36.870 --> 01:36:36.880 align:start position:0% en die argument teen goedkeuring is 01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:38.950 align:start position:0% en die argument teen goedkeuring is dat <01:36:37.360>die <01:36:37.840>surrogaat <01:36:38.320>eindpunt <01:36:38.800>die 01:36:38.950 --> 01:36:38.960 align:start position:0% dat die surrogaat eindpunt die 01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:41.590 align:start position:0% dat die surrogaat eindpunt die vermindering <01:36:39.360>van <01:36:39.760>amiloïed <01:36:40.160>die <01:36:40.560>progressie <01:36:40.960>van 01:36:41.590 --> 01:36:41.600 align:start position:0% vermindering van amiloïed die progressie van 01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:43.350 align:start position:0% vermindering van amiloïed die progressie van amyloïed <01:36:42.080>gedenkplate 01:36:43.350 --> 01:36:43.360 align:start position:0% amyloïed gedenkplate 01:36:43.360 --> 01:36:46.470 align:start position:0% amyloïed gedenkplate is <01:36:43.616>deur <01:36:43.872>die <01:36:44.128>FDA <01:36:44.384>bekend <01:36:44.640>as <01:36:44.896>nie <01:36:45.152>'n <01:36:45.408>val <01:36:45.664>nie <01:36:45.920>id 01:36:46.470 --> 01:36:46.480 align:start position:0% is deur die FDA bekend as nie 'n val nie id 01:36:46.480 --> 01:36:49.109 align:start position:0% is deur die FDA bekend as nie 'n val nie id kliniese <01:36:47.000>aanwyser <01:36:47.520>dit <01:36:48.040>korreleer <01:36:48.560>nie 01:36:49.109 --> 01:36:49.119 align:start position:0% kliniese aanwyser dit korreleer nie 01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:51.430 align:start position:0% kliniese aanwyser dit korreleer nie 27 <01:36:49.599>studies <01:36:50.079>het <01:36:50.559>getoon <01:36:51.039>dit 01:36:51.430 --> 01:36:51.440 align:start position:0% 27 studies het getoon dit 01:36:51.440 --> 01:36:53.270 align:start position:0% 27 studies het getoon dit korreleer <01:36:51.700>nie <01:36:51.960>met <01:36:52.220>kliniese <01:36:52.480>vordering 01:36:53.270 --> 01:36:53.280 align:start position:0% korreleer nie met kliniese vordering 01:36:53.280 --> 01:36:55.109 align:start position:0% korreleer nie met kliniese vordering nie <01:36:53.470>die <01:36:53.660>onderbreking <01:36:53.850>van <01:36:54.040>die <01:36:54.230>amyloïde <01:36:54.420>gedenkplate <01:36:54.610>beteken <01:36:54.800>nie 01:36:55.109 --> 01:36:55.119 align:start position:0% nie die onderbreking van die amyloïde gedenkplate beteken nie 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:57.430 align:start position:0% nie die onderbreking van die amyloïde gedenkplate beteken nie dat <01:36:55.479>jy <01:36:55.839>is 01:36:57.430 --> 01:36:57.440 align:start position:0% dat jy is 01:36:57.440 --> 01:36:59.030 align:start position:0% dat jy is dat <01:36:57.546>jou <01:36:57.652>Alzheimer <01:36:57.758>s'n 01:36:59.030 --> 01:36:59.040 align:start position:0% dat jou Alzheimer s'n 01:36:59.040 --> 01:37:01.990 align:start position:0% dat jou Alzheimer s'n nie <01:36:59.226>erger <01:36:59.412>word <01:36:59.598>nie 01:37:01.990 --> 01:37:02.000 align:start position:0% 01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:03.510 align:start position:0% so <01:37:02.239>dit <01:37:02.478>lyk <01:37:02.717>of 01:37:03.510 --> 01:37:03.520 align:start position:0% so dit lyk of 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:06.390 align:start position:0% so dit lyk of dit <01:37:03.831>'n <01:37:04.142>slam <01:37:04.453>dunk <01:37:04.764>is <01:37:05.075>en <01:37:05.386>die <01:37:05.697>fda <01:37:06.008>het <01:37:06.319>'n 01:37:06.390 --> 01:37:06.400 align:start position:0% dit 'n slam dunk is en die fda het 'n 01:37:06.400 --> 01:37:09.109 align:start position:0% dit 'n slam dunk is en die fda het 'n fout <01:37:06.675>gemaak <01:37:06.950>en <01:37:07.225>hulle <01:37:07.500>moet <01:37:07.775>doen <01:37:08.050>wat <01:37:08.325>hulle <01:37:08.600>ook <01:37:08.875>al 01:37:09.109 --> 01:37:09.119 align:start position:0% fout gemaak en hulle moet doen wat hulle ook al 01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:10.790 align:start position:0% fout gemaak en hulle moet doen wat hulle ook al doen <01:37:09.292>om <01:37:09.465>hul <01:37:09.638>burokratiese <01:37:09.811>reputasie <01:37:09.984>te <01:37:10.157>beskerm, 01:37:10.790 --> 01:37:10.800 align:start position:0% doen om hul burokratiese reputasie te beskerm, 01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:11.990 align:start position:0% doen om hul burokratiese reputasie te beskerm, 01:37:11.990 --> 01:37:12.000 align:start position:0% 01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.270 align:start position:0% so <01:37:12.311>die <01:37:12.622>hoof <01:37:12.933>van <01:37:13.244>die <01:37:13.555>buro <01:37:13.866>van <01:37:14.177>die <01:37:14.488>fda, <01:37:14.799>die <01:37:15.110>sentr 01:37:15.270 --> 01:37:15.280 align:start position:0% so die hoof van die buro van die fda, die sentr 01:37:15.280 --> 01:37:17.189 align:start position:0% so die hoof van die buro van die fda, die sentr m <01:37:15.519>vir <01:37:15.758>medisyne-evaluering <01:37:15.997>en <01:37:16.236>navorsing <01:37:16.475>wat <01:37:16.714>n 01:37:17.189 --> 01:37:17.199 align:start position:0% m vir medisyne-evaluering en navorsing wat n 01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:19.189 align:start position:0% m vir medisyne-evaluering en navorsing wat n we <01:37:17.399>medisyne <01:37:17.599>goedkeur <01:37:17.799>wat <01:37:17.999>1 01:37:19.189 --> 01:37:19.199 align:start position:0% we medisyne goedkeur wat 1 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:21.830 align:start position:0% we medisyne goedkeur wat 1 jaar <01:37:20.039>as <01:37:20.879>'n 01:37:21.830 --> 01:37:21.840 align:start position:0% jaar as 'n 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:24.229 align:start position:0% jaar as 'n uitvoerende <01:37:22.176>beampte <01:37:22.512>in <01:37:22.848>die <01:37:23.184>farmaseutiese <01:37:23.520>indus 01:37:24.229 --> 01:37:24.239 align:start position:0% uitvoerende beampte in die farmaseutiese indus 01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:25.270 align:start position:0% uitvoerende beampte in die farmaseutiese indus rie deurgebring het, het ' 01:37:25.270 --> 01:37:25.280 align:start position:0% rie deurgebring het, het ' 01:37:25.280 --> 01:37:26.790 align:start position:0% rie deurgebring het, het ' verk 01:37:26.790 --> 01:37:26.800 align:start position:0% verk 01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:27.990 align:start position:0% verk en <01:37:27.040>gesê 01:37:27.990 --> 01:37:28.000 align:start position:0% en gesê 01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.950 align:start position:0% en gesê wat <01:37:28.199>ons <01:37:28.398>in <01:37:28.597>hierdie <01:37:28.796>situasie <01:37:28.995>moet <01:37:29.194>doen, 01:37:30.950 --> 01:37:30.960 align:start position:0% wat ons in hierdie situasie moet doen, 01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:33.189 align:start position:0% wat ons in hierdie situasie moet doen, is <01:37:31.840>om 01:37:33.189 --> 01:37:33.199 align:start position:0% is om 01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:34.870 align:start position:0% is om die <01:37:33.600>verbod 01:37:34.870 --> 01:37:34.880 align:start position:0% die verbod 01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:37.030 align:start position:0% die verbod op <01:37:35.226>finansiële <01:37:35.572>bande <01:37:35.918>van <01:37:36.264>belang <01:37:36.610>met <01:37:36.956>die 01:37:37.030 --> 01:37:37.040 align:start position:0% op finansiële bande van belang met die 01:37:37.040 --> 01:37:38.629 align:start position:0% op finansiële bande van belang met die dwelmmaatskappye <01:37:37.146>los <01:37:37.252>te <01:37:37.358>maak 01:37:38.629 --> 01:37:38.639 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye los te maak 01:37:38.639 --> 01:37:44.790 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye los te maak sodat <01:37:38.959>ons <01:37:39.279>minder <01:37:39.599>emosionele <01:37:39.919>reaksies <01:37:40.239>kry 01:37:44.790 --> 01:37:44.800 align:start position:0% 01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:49.270 align:start position:0% gesê <01:37:45.000>dit <01:37:45.200>is <01:37:45.400>in <01:37:45.600>druk 01:37:49.270 --> 01:37:49.280 align:start position:0% 01:37:49.280 --> 01:37:51.430 align:start position:0% mense <01:37:49.573>is <01:37:49.866>net <01:37:50.159>te <01:37:50.452>emosioneel <01:37:50.745>oor <01:37:51.038>hierdie 01:37:51.430 --> 01:37:51.440 align:start position:0% mense is net te emosioneel oor hierdie 01:37:51.440 --> 01:37:53.189 align:start position:0% mense is net te emosioneel oor hierdie mense <01:37:51.693>was <01:37:51.946>net <01:37:52.199>te <01:37:52.452>emosioneel <01:37:52.705>die <01:37:52.958>10 01:37:53.189 --> 01:37:53.199 align:start position:0% mense was net te emosioneel die 10 01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:55.430 align:start position:0% mense was net te emosioneel die 10 mense <01:37:53.484>wie <01:37:53.769>het <01:37:54.054>daarteen <01:37:54.339>gestem <01:37:54.624>en <01:37:54.909>die <01:37:55.194>nee 01:37:55.430 --> 01:37:55.440 align:start position:0% mense wie het daarteen gestem en die nee 01:37:55.440 --> 01:37:57.189 align:start position:0% mense wie het daarteen gestem en die nee mense <01:37:55.657>wat <01:37:55.874>daarvoor <01:37:56.091>gestem <01:37:56.308>het <01:37:56.525>dit <01:37:56.742>is <01:37:56.959>te 01:37:57.189 --> 01:37:57.199 align:start position:0% mense wat daarvoor gestem het dit is te 01:37:57.199 --> 01:37:58.390 align:start position:0% mense wat daarvoor gestem het dit is te emosioneel 01:37:58.390 --> 01:37:58.400 align:start position:0% emosioneel 01:37:58.400 --> 01:38:00.790 align:start position:0% emosioneel so <01:37:58.660>dit <01:37:58.920>kom <01:37:59.180>terug <01:37:59.440>dit <01:37:59.700>is <01:37:59.960>'n <01:38:00.220>lang <01:38:00.480>antwoord 01:38:00.790 --> 01:38:00.800 align:start position:0% so dit kom terug dit is 'n lang antwoord 01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:02.470 align:start position:0% so dit kom terug dit is 'n lang antwoord op <01:38:01.200>jou <01:38:01.600>kort 01:38:02.470 --> 01:38:02.480 align:start position:0% op jou kort 01:38:02.480 --> 01:38:05.109 align:start position:0% op jou kort vraag <01:38:02.780>dink <01:38:03.080>ek <01:38:03.380>dit <01:38:03.680>is <01:38:03.980>'n <01:38:04.280>wonderlike <01:38:04.580>venster <01:38:04.880>in 01:38:05.109 --> 01:38:05.119 align:start position:0% vraag dink ek dit is 'n wonderlike venster in 01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:07.830 align:start position:0% vraag dink ek dit is 'n wonderlike venster in die <01:38:05.399>denke <01:38:05.679>van <01:38:05.959>die <01:38:06.239>FDA 01:38:07.830 --> 01:38:07.840 align:start position:0% die denke van die FDA 01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:09.510 align:start position:0% die denke van die FDA dat <01:38:08.159>finansiële <01:38:08.478>botsing <01:38:08.797>van <01:38:09.116>belange 01:38:09.510 --> 01:38:09.520 align:start position:0% dat finansiële botsing van belange 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:11.030 align:start position:0% dat finansiële botsing van belange nie <01:38:09.640>saak <01:38:09.760>maak 01:38:11.030 --> 01:38:11.040 align:start position:0% nie saak maak 01:38:11.040 --> 01:38:13.109 align:start position:0% nie saak maak in <01:38:11.249>'n <01:38:11.458>situasie <01:38:11.667>wanneer <01:38:11.876>ek <01:38:12.085>dink <01:38:12.294>dit <01:38:12.503>is <01:38:12.712>duidelik 01:38:13.109 --> 01:38:13.119 align:start position:0% in 'n situasie wanneer ek dink dit is duidelik 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:14.870 align:start position:0% in 'n situasie wanneer ek dink dit is duidelik dat <01:38:13.231>hulle <01:38:13.343>saak <01:38:13.455>sal <01:38:13.567>maak <01:38:13.679>nie, 01:38:14.870 --> 01:38:14.880 align:start position:0% dat hulle saak sal maak nie, 01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:16.790 align:start position:0% dat hulle saak sal maak nie, maar <01:38:15.080>daar <01:38:15.280>is <01:38:15.480>nie <01:38:15.680>'n <01:38:15.880>direkte <01:38:16.080>finansiële 01:38:16.790 --> 01:38:16.800 align:start position:0% maar daar is nie 'n direkte finansiële 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:19.750 align:start position:0% maar daar is nie 'n direkte finansiële botsing <01:38:17.028>van <01:38:17.256>belange <01:38:17.484>nie, <01:38:17.712>dit <01:38:17.940>is <01:38:18.168>soort <01:38:18.396>van 01:38:19.750 --> 01:38:19.760 align:start position:0% botsing van belange nie, dit is soort van 01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:21.189 align:start position:0% botsing van belange nie, dit is soort van asof <01:38:19.999>dit <01:38:20.238>nie 01:38:21.189 --> 01:38:21.199 align:start position:0% asof dit nie 01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:23.030 align:start position:0% asof dit nie soos <01:38:21.719>soos <01:38:22.239>uh 01:38:23.030 --> 01:38:23.040 align:start position:0% soos soos uh 01:38:23.040 --> 01:38:24.390 align:start position:0% soos soos uh albert <01:38:23.320>het <01:38:23.600>gesê 01:38:24.390 --> 01:38:24.400 align:start position:0% albert het gesê 01:38:24.400 --> 01:38:25.910 align:start position:0% albert het gesê daar <01:38:24.559>is <01:38:24.718>reëls 01:38:25.910 --> 01:38:25.920 align:start position:0% daar is reëls 01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:27.910 align:start position:0% daar is reëls ek <01:38:26.208>bedoel <01:38:26.496>jy <01:38:26.784>mag <01:38:27.072>nie <01:38:27.360>direkte 01:38:27.910 --> 01:38:27.920 align:start position:0% ek bedoel jy mag nie direkte 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:30.709 align:start position:0% ek bedoel jy mag nie direkte finansiële <01:38:28.271>botsings <01:38:28.622>van <01:38:28.973>belange <01:38:29.324>hê <01:38:29.675>nie 01:38:30.709 --> 01:38:30.719 align:start position:0% finansiële botsings van belange hê nie 01:38:30.719 --> 01:38:33.350 align:start position:0% finansiële botsings van belange hê nie dit <01:38:31.039>is <01:38:31.359>indirek <01:38:31.679>reg <01:38:31.999>maar <01:38:32.319>wat <01:38:32.639>ek <01:38:32.959>sê 01:38:33.350 --> 01:38:33.360 align:start position:0% dit is indirek reg maar wat ek sê 01:38:33.360 --> 01:38:34.390 align:start position:0% dit is indirek reg maar wat ek sê is 01:38:34.390 --> 01:38:34.400 align:start position:0% is 01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:37.750 align:start position:0% is ek <01:38:34.568>ontken <01:38:34.736>nie <01:38:34.904>wat <01:38:35.072>hy <01:38:35.240>gesê <01:38:35.408>het <01:38:35.576>is <01:38:35.744>waar <01:38:35.912>nie 01:38:37.750 --> 01:38:37.760 align:start position:0% ek ontken nie wat hy gesê het is waar nie 01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:41.990 align:start position:0% ek ontken nie wat hy gesê het is waar nie maar <01:38:38.100>die <01:38:38.440>fda <01:38:38.780>'n <01:38:39.120>hoë <01:38:39.460>amptenaar <01:38:39.800>in <01:38:40.140>die <01:38:40.480>fda 01:38:41.990 --> 01:38:42.000 align:start position:0% maar die fda 'n hoë amptenaar in die fda 01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:44.070 align:start position:0% maar die fda 'n hoë amptenaar in die fda is <01:38:42.559>sê <01:38:43.118>dat <01:38:43.677>ons 01:38:44.070 --> 01:38:44.080 align:start position:0% is sê dat ons 01:38:44.080 --> 01:38:46.149 align:start position:0% is sê dat ons belangebotsings <01:38:44.399>in <01:38:44.718>ons <01:38:45.037>advieskomiteevergaderings <01:38:45.356>moet <01:38:45.675>toelaat 01:38:46.149 --> 01:38:48.229 align:start position:0% belangebotsings in ons advieskomiteevergaderings moet toelaat 01:38:48.229 --> 01:38:48.239 align:start position:0% 01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:49.270 align:start position:0% 01:38:49.270 --> 01:38:49.280 align:start position:0% 01:38:49.280 --> 01:38:51.109 align:start position:0% en <01:38:49.679>dat 01:38:51.109 --> 01:38:51.119 align:start position:0% en dat 01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:53.270 align:start position:0% en dat sy <01:38:51.359>die <01:38:51.599>reëls <01:38:51.839>wil <01:38:52.079>verander 01:38:53.270 --> 01:38:53.280 align:start position:0% sy die reëls wil verander 01:38:53.280 --> 01:38:54.470 align:start position:0% sy die reëls wil verander sodat 01:38:54.470 --> 01:38:54.480 align:start position:0% sodat 01:38:54.480 --> 01:38:56.390 align:start position:0% sodat albert <01:38:55.040>borla <01:38:55.600>steeds 01:38:56.390 --> 01:38:56.400 align:start position:0% albert borla steeds 01:38:56.400 --> 01:38:59.990 align:start position:0% albert borla steeds volgens <01:38:56.689>die <01:38:56.978>reëls <01:38:57.267>sal <01:38:57.556>speel, <01:38:57.845>maar <01:38:58.134>dit <01:38:58.423>wys <01:38:58.712>net 01:38:59.990 --> 01:39:00.000 align:start position:0% volgens die reëls sal speel, maar dit wys net 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:03.270 align:start position:0% volgens die reëls sal speel, maar dit wys net hoe <01:39:00.416>eensydig <01:39:00.832>die <01:39:01.248>denke <01:39:01.664>hier <01:39:02.080>is, 01:39:03.270 --> 01:39:03.280 align:start position:0% hoe eensydig die denke hier is, 01:39:03.280 --> 01:39:04.870 align:start position:0% hoe eensydig die denke hier is, maar <01:39:03.485>jy <01:39:03.690>dink <01:39:03.895>dit <01:39:04.100>is <01:39:04.305>beïnvloed <01:39:04.510>deur <01:39:04.715>die 01:39:04.870 --> 01:39:04.880 align:start position:0% maar jy dink dit is beïnvloed deur die 01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:06.709 align:start position:0% maar jy dink dit is beïnvloed deur die feit <01:39:05.200>dat <01:39:05.520>daar <01:39:05.840>farmaseutiese 01:39:06.709 --> 01:39:06.719 align:start position:0% feit dat daar farmaseutiese 01:39:06.719 --> 01:39:09.350 align:start position:0% feit dat daar farmaseutiese bestuurders <01:39:07.105>by <01:39:07.491>die <01:39:07.877>FDA <01:39:08.263>gewerk <01:39:08.649>het <01:39:09.035>en 01:39:09.350 --> 01:39:09.360 align:start position:0% bestuurders by die FDA gewerk het en 01:39:09.360 --> 01:39:13.189 align:start position:0% bestuurders by die FDA gewerk het en omgekeerd <01:39:09.550>en <01:39:09.740>hulle <01:39:09.930>dink <01:39:10.120>dit <01:39:10.310>is <01:39:10.500>'n <01:39:10.690>goeie <01:39:10.880>idee 01:39:13.189 --> 01:39:13.199 align:start position:0% omgekeerd en hulle dink dit is 'n goeie idee 01:39:13.199 --> 01:39:14.790 align:start position:0% omgekeerd en hulle dink dit is 'n goeie idee wie <01:39:13.452>dit <01:39:13.705>kan <01:39:13.958>regmaak <01:39:14.211>dink <01:39:14.464>jy <01:39:14.717>dit 01:39:14.790 --> 01:39:14.800 align:start position:0% wie dit kan regmaak dink jy dit 01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:17.430 align:start position:0% wie dit kan regmaak dink jy dit moet <01:39:15.108>net <01:39:15.416>verbied <01:39:15.724>word <01:39:16.032>soos <01:39:16.340>as <01:39:16.648>jy <01:39:16.956>werk 01:39:17.430 --> 01:39:17.440 align:start position:0% moet net verbied word soos as jy werk 01:39:17.440 --> 01:39:19.030 align:start position:0% moet net verbied word soos as jy werk twee <01:39:17.720>afsonderlike <01:39:18.000>vrae 01:39:19.030 --> 01:39:19.040 align:start position:0% twee afsonderlike vrae 01:39:19.040 --> 01:39:20.629 align:start position:0% twee afsonderlike vrae een <01:39:19.333>is <01:39:19.626>moet <01:39:19.919>die 01:39:20.629 --> 01:39:20.639 align:start position:0% een is moet die 01:39:20.639 --> 01:39:23.590 align:start position:0% een is moet die uh <01:39:20.899>amptenare <01:39:21.159>by <01:39:21.419>die <01:39:21.679>FDA <01:39:21.939>van <01:39:22.199>pharma <01:39:22.459>af <01:39:22.719>kom 01:39:23.590 --> 01:39:23.600 align:start position:0% uh amptenare by die FDA van pharma af kom 01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:26.310 align:start position:0% uh amptenare by die FDA van pharma af kom en <01:39:23.968>omgekeerd <01:39:24.336>ja <01:39:24.704>dis <01:39:25.072>een <01:39:25.440>vraag 01:39:26.310 --> 01:39:26.320 align:start position:0% en omgekeerd ja dis een vraag 01:39:26.320 --> 01:39:27.590 align:start position:0% en omgekeerd ja dis een vraag en <01:39:26.528>die <01:39:26.736>ander <01:39:26.944>vraag <01:39:27.152>is <01:39:27.360>moet 01:39:27.590 --> 01:39:27.600 align:start position:0% en die ander vraag is moet 01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:29.350 align:start position:0% en die ander vraag is moet advieskomiteelede <01:39:28.440>toegelaat <01:39:29.280>word 01:39:29.350 --> 01:39:29.360 align:start position:0% advieskomiteelede toegelaat word 01:39:29.360 --> 01:39:31.590 align:start position:0% advieskomiteelede toegelaat word om <01:39:29.573>finansiële <01:39:29.786>botsing <01:39:29.999>van <01:39:30.212>belange <01:39:30.425>te <01:39:30.638>hê 01:39:31.590 --> 01:39:31.600 align:start position:0% om finansiële botsing van belange te hê 01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:33.030 align:start position:0% om finansiële botsing van belange te hê ja 01:39:33.030 --> 01:39:33.040 align:start position:0% ja 01:39:33.040 --> 01:39:34.629 align:start position:0% ja ek <01:39:33.199>dink 01:39:34.629 --> 01:39:34.639 align:start position:0% ek dink 01:39:34.639 --> 01:39:37.109 align:start position:0% ek dink na <01:39:34.871>my <01:39:35.103>mening <01:39:35.335>en <01:39:35.567>mense <01:39:35.799>kan <01:39:36.031>dalk <01:39:36.263>sê <01:39:36.495>ek <01:39:36.727>Ek <01:39:36.959>is 01:39:37.109 --> 01:39:37.119 align:start position:0% na my mening en mense kan dalk sê ek Ek is 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:38.149 align:start position:0% na my mening en mense kan dalk sê ek Ek is bevooroordeeld 01:39:38.149 --> 01:39:38.159 align:start position:0% bevooroordeeld 01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:40.229 align:start position:0% bevooroordeeld ek <01:39:38.619>dink <01:39:39.079>finaal <01:39:39.539>advieskomitee <01:39:39.999>mense 01:39:40.229 --> 01:39:40.239 align:start position:0% ek dink finaal advieskomitee mense 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:42.149 align:start position:0% ek dink finaal advieskomitee mense moet <01:39:40.532>nie <01:39:40.825>botsende <01:39:41.118>belange <01:39:41.411>hê <01:39:41.704>nie <01:39:41.997>ek 01:39:42.149 --> 01:39:42.159 align:start position:0% moet nie botsende belange hê nie ek 01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:43.510 align:start position:0% moet nie botsende belange hê nie ek dink <01:39:42.479>hul <01:39:42.799>enigste <01:39:43.119>belang <01:39:43.439>behoort 01:39:43.510 --> 01:39:43.520 align:start position:0% dink hul enigste belang behoort 01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:46.870 align:start position:0% dink hul enigste belang behoort die <01:39:43.820>openbare <01:39:44.120>belang <01:39:44.420>te <01:39:44.720>wees <01:39:45.020>en <01:39:45.320>dit <01:39:45.620>was <01:39:45.920>waar 01:39:46.870 --> 01:39:46.880 align:start position:0% die openbare belang te wees en dit was waar 01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:49.189 align:start position:0% die openbare belang te wees en dit was waar uit <01:39:47.151>my <01:39:47.422>begrip <01:39:47.693>van <01:39:47.964>hierdie <01:39:48.235>situasie 01:39:49.189 --> 01:39:49.199 align:start position:0% uit my begrip van hierdie situasie 01:39:49.199 --> 01:39:51.830 align:start position:0% uit my begrip van hierdie situasie dit <01:39:49.456>is <01:39:49.713>die <01:39:49.970>daarna <01:39:50.227>in <01:39:50.484>my <01:39:50.741>boek <01:39:50.998>wat <01:39:51.255>ek <01:39:51.512>' 01:39:51.830 --> 01:39:51.840 align:start position:0% dit is die daarna in my boek wat ek ' 01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:54.310 align:start position:0% dit is die daarna in my boek wat ek ' n <01:39:52.050>geruime <01:39:52.260>tyd <01:39:52.470>spandeer <01:39:52.680>het <01:39:52.890>om <01:39:53.100>dit <01:39:53.310>oor <01:39:53.520>rats <01:39:53.730>te <01:39:53.940>bestudeer <01:39:54.150>ek 01:39:54.310 --> 01:39:54.320 align:start position:0% n geruime tyd spandeer het om dit oor rats te bestudeer ek 01:39:54.320 --> 01:39:56.229 align:start position:0% n geruime tyd spandeer het om dit oor rats te bestudeer ek dink <01:39:54.560>dit <01:39:54.800>is <01:39:55.040>'n <01:39:55.280>slam <01:39:55.520>dunk <01:39:55.760>dat <01:39:56.000>daar 01:39:56.229 --> 01:39:56.239 align:start position:0% dink dit is 'n slam dunk dat daar 01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:58.709 align:start position:0% dink dit is 'n slam dunk dat daar geen <01:39:56.391>botsing <01:39:56.543>van <01:39:56.695>belange <01:39:56.847>behoort <01:39:56.999>te <01:39:57.151>wees <01:39:57.303>nie, <01:39:57.455>nou <01:39:57.607>dink <01:39:57.759>die 01:39:58.709 --> 01:39:58.719 align:start position:0% geen botsing van belange behoort te wees nie, nou dink die 01:39:58.719 --> 01:40:00.870 align:start position:0% geen botsing van belange behoort te wees nie, nou dink die hoof <01:39:59.119>van <01:39:59.519>sedersentrum <01:39:59.919>vir <01:40:00.319>dwelm- 01:40:00.870 --> 01:40:00.880 align:start position:0% hoof van sedersentrum vir dwelm- 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:02.390 align:start position:0% hoof van sedersentrum vir dwelm- evalueringsnavorsing <01:40:01.600>dat <01:40:02.320>dit 01:40:02.390 --> 01:40:02.400 align:start position:0% evalueringsnavorsing dat dit 01:40:02.400 --> 01:40:05.030 align:start position:0% evalueringsnavorsing dat dit vir <01:40:02.710>jou <01:40:03.020>'n <01:40:03.330>bevooroordeelde <01:40:03.640>resultaat <01:40:03.950>gaan <01:40:04.260>gee <01:40:04.570>omdat <01:40:04.880>ons 01:40:05.030 --> 01:40:05.040 align:start position:0% vir jou 'n bevooroordeelde resultaat gaan gee omdat ons 01:40:05.040 --> 01:40:07.350 align:start position:0% vir jou 'n bevooroordeelde resultaat gaan gee omdat ons nie <01:40:05.333>maatskappyinvloed <01:40:05.626>het <01:40:05.919>nie 01:40:07.350 --> 01:40:07.360 align:start position:0% nie maatskappyinvloed het nie 01:40:07.360 --> 01:40:11.109 align:start position:0% nie maatskappyinvloed het nie en <01:40:07.744>dit <01:40:08.128>dink <01:40:08.512>ek <01:40:08.896>wys <01:40:09.280>hoe 01:40:11.109 --> 01:40:11.119 align:start position:0% en dit dink ek wys hoe 01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:14.229 align:start position:0% en dit dink ek wys hoe hoe <01:40:11.499>bevooroordeeld <01:40:11.879>hul <01:40:12.259>denke <01:40:12.639>is 01:40:14.229 --> 01:40:14.239 align:start position:0% hoe bevooroordeeld hul denke is 01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:16.550 align:start position:0% hoe bevooroordeeld hul denke is dat <01:40:14.455>dit <01:40:14.671>'n <01:40:14.887>vooroordeel <01:40:15.103>is <01:40:15.319>om <01:40:15.535>nie <01:40:15.751>maatskappyinvloed <01:40:15.967>te <01:40:16.183>hê <01:40:16.399>nie, 01:40:16.550 --> 01:40:16.560 align:start position:0% dat dit 'n vooroordeel is om nie maatskappyinvloed te hê nie, 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.189 align:start position:0% dat dit 'n vooroordeel is om nie maatskappyinvloed te hê nie, 01:40:19.189 --> 01:40:19.199 align:start position:0% 01:40:19.199 --> 01:40:21.830 align:start position:0% laat <01:40:19.465>ek <01:40:19.731>probeer <01:40:19.997>om <01:40:20.263>dit <01:40:20.529>te <01:40:20.795>laai <01:40:21.061>in <01:40:21.327>ek <01:40:21.593>probeer 01:40:21.830 --> 01:40:21.840 align:start position:0% laat ek probeer om dit te laai in ek probeer 01:40:21.840 --> 01:40:24.950 align:start position:0% laat ek probeer om dit te laai in ek probeer empatie <01:40:22.120>hê <01:40:22.400>met <01:40:22.680>die <01:40:22.960>oortuiging <01:40:23.240>dat <01:40:23.520>maatskappye 01:40:24.950 --> 01:40:24.960 align:start position:0% empatie hê met die oortuiging dat maatskappye 01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:28.550 align:start position:0% empatie hê met die oortuiging dat maatskappye moet <01:40:25.120>Ek <01:40:25.280>het <01:40:25.440>'n <01:40:25.600>stem <01:40:25.760>by <01:40:25.920>die <01:40:26.080>tafel 01:40:28.550 --> 01:40:28.560 align:start position:0% 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:30.310 align:start position:0% ek <01:40:28.740>bedoel <01:40:28.920>ja <01:40:29.100>dit <01:40:29.280>is <01:40:29.460>deel <01:40:29.640>van <01:40:29.820>die <01:40:30.000>spel 01:40:30.310 --> 01:40:30.320 align:start position:0% ek bedoel ja dit is deel van die spel 01:40:30.320 --> 01:40:31.590 align:start position:0% ek bedoel ja dit is deel van die spel hulle <01:40:30.528>het <01:40:30.736>hulself <01:40:30.944>oortuig <01:40:31.152>dat <01:40:31.360>dit 01:40:31.590 --> 01:40:31.600 align:start position:0% hulle het hulself oortuig dat dit 01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.149 align:start position:0% hulle het hulself oortuig dat dit is <01:40:31.744>hoe <01:40:31.888>dit <01:40:32.032>gespeel <01:40:32.176>moet <01:40:32.320>word 01:40:34.149 --> 01:40:34.159 align:start position:0% is hoe dit gespeel moet word 01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:36.229 align:start position:0% is hoe dit gespeel moet word en <01:40:34.369>maar <01:40:34.579>hulle <01:40:34.789>het <01:40:34.999>'n <01:40:35.209>stem <01:40:35.419>by <01:40:35.629>die <01:40:35.839>tafel 01:40:36.229 --> 01:40:36.239 align:start position:0% en maar hulle het 'n stem by die tafel 01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:38.070 align:start position:0% en maar hulle het 'n stem by die tafel hulle <01:40:36.543>het <01:40:36.847>die <01:40:37.151>studies <01:40:37.455>reg <01:40:37.759>ontwerp 01:40:38.070 --> 01:40:38.080 align:start position:0% hulle het die studies reg ontwerp 01:40:38.080 --> 01:40:40.870 align:start position:0% hulle het die studies reg ontwerp dit <01:40:38.266>is <01:40:38.452>hul <01:40:38.638>stem 01:40:40.870 --> 01:40:40.880 align:start position:0% dit is hul stem 01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:42.950 align:start position:0% dit is hul stem ek <01:40:41.146>bedoel <01:40:41.412>wat <01:40:41.678>groter <01:40:41.944>stem <01:40:42.210>verdien <01:40:42.476>jy 01:40:42.950 --> 01:40:42.960 align:start position:0% ek bedoel wat groter stem verdien jy 01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:45.510 align:start position:0% ek bedoel wat groter stem verdien jy maar <01:40:43.239>ek <01:40:43.518>dink <01:40:43.797>ook <01:40:44.076>aan <01:40:44.355>die <01:40:44.634>op <01:40:44.913>die <01:40:45.192>meer 01:40:45.510 --> 01:40:45.520 align:start position:0% maar ek dink ook aan die op die meer 01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:48.470 align:start position:0% maar ek dink ook aan die op die meer uitdagende <01:40:45.984>vraag <01:40:46.448>ek <01:40:46.912>dink <01:40:47.376>wel <01:40:47.840>dat 01:40:48.470 --> 01:40:48.480 align:start position:0% uitdagende vraag ek dink wel dat 01:40:48.480 --> 01:40:52.070 align:start position:0% uitdagende vraag ek dink wel dat daar <01:40:48.813>'n <01:40:49.146>verbod <01:40:49.479>moet <01:40:49.812>wees <01:40:50.145>as <01:40:50.478>jy 01:40:52.070 --> 01:40:52.080 align:start position:0% daar 'n verbod moet wees as jy 01:40:52.080 --> 01:40:53.910 align:start position:0% daar 'n verbod moet wees as jy by <01:40:52.346>'n <01:40:52.612>farmaseutiese <01:40:52.878>maatskappy <01:40:53.144>werk <01:40:53.410>moet <01:40:53.676>jy 01:40:53.910 --> 01:40:53.920 align:start position:0% by 'n farmaseutiese maatskappy werk moet jy 01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:57.109 align:start position:0% by 'n farmaseutiese maatskappy werk moet jy nie <01:40:54.224>toegelaat <01:40:54.528>word <01:40:54.832>om <01:40:55.136>by <01:40:55.440>enige 01:40:57.109 --> 01:40:57.119 align:start position:0% nie toegelaat word om by enige 01:40:57.119 --> 01:40:58.229 align:start position:0% nie toegelaat word om by enige um 01:40:58.229 --> 01:40:58.239 align:start position:0% um 01:40:58.239 --> 01:40:59.830 align:start position:0% um regulerende 01:40:59.830 --> 01:40:59.840 align:start position:0% regulerende 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:03.030 align:start position:0% regulerende agentskap <01:41:00.097>te <01:41:00.354>werk <01:41:00.611>nie <01:41:00.868>ja <01:41:01.125>jy <01:41:01.382>moet <01:41:01.639>nie <01:41:01.896>ek <01:41:02.153>bedoel 01:41:03.030 --> 01:41:03.040 align:start position:0% agentskap te werk nie ja jy moet nie ek bedoel 01:41:03.040 --> 01:41:05.189 align:start position:0% agentskap te werk nie ja jy moet nie ek bedoel om <01:41:03.262>heen <01:41:03.484>en <01:41:03.706>weer <01:41:03.928>te <01:41:04.150>gaan <01:41:04.372>is <01:41:04.594>net <01:41:04.816>al <01:41:05.038>is 01:41:05.189 --> 01:41:05.199 align:start position:0% om heen en weer te gaan is net al is 01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:08.390 align:start position:0% om heen en weer te gaan is net al is dit <01:41:05.527>30 <01:41:05.855>jaar <01:41:06.183>later <01:41:06.511>stem <01:41:06.839>ek <01:41:07.167>saam <01:41:07.495>en <01:41:07.823>ek <01:41:08.151>het 01:41:08.390 --> 01:41:08.400 align:start position:0% dit 30 jaar later stem ek saam en ek het 01:41:08.400 --> 01:41:10.950 align:start position:0% dit 30 jaar later stem ek saam en ek het nog <01:41:08.704>'n <01:41:09.008>benoeming <01:41:09.312>vir <01:41:09.616>'n <01:41:09.920>verbod 01:41:10.950 --> 01:41:10.960 align:start position:0% nog 'n benoeming vir 'n verbod 01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:13.109 align:start position:0% nog 'n benoeming vir 'n verbod ons <01:41:11.280>is <01:41:11.600>in <01:41:11.920>hierdie <01:41:12.240>mal <01:41:12.560>situasie <01:41:12.880>waar 01:41:13.109 --> 01:41:13.119 align:start position:0% ons is in hierdie mal situasie waar 01:41:13.119 --> 01:41:15.109 align:start position:0% ons is in hierdie mal situasie waar mediese <01:41:13.439>sorg <01:41:13.759>nie <01:41:14.079>toegelaat <01:41:14.399>word <01:41:14.719>om <01:41:15.039>die 01:41:15.109 --> 01:41:15.119 align:start position:0% mediese sorg nie toegelaat word om die 01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:17.669 align:start position:0% mediese sorg nie toegelaat word om die prys <01:41:15.314>van <01:41:15.509>dwelms <01:41:15.704>met <01:41:15.899>die <01:41:16.094>dwelm <01:41:16.289>maatskappye <01:41:16.484>te <01:41:16.679>onderhandel <01:41:16.874>nie, 01:41:17.669 --> 01:41:17.679 align:start position:0% prys van dwelms met die dwelm maatskappye te onderhandel nie, 01:41:17.679 --> 01:41:19.510 align:start position:0% prys van dwelms met die dwelm maatskappye te onderhandel nie, so <01:41:17.899>die <01:41:18.119>medisyne <01:41:18.339>maatskappye <01:41:18.559>kry <01:41:18.779>'n <01:41:18.999>patent <01:41:19.219>op <01:41:19.439>'n 01:41:19.510 --> 01:41:19.520 align:start position:0% so die medisyne maatskappye kry 'n patent op 'n 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:20.709 align:start position:0% so die medisyne maatskappye kry 'n patent op 'n nuwe <01:41:19.679>dwelm 01:41:20.709 --> 01:41:20.719 align:start position:0% nuwe dwelm 01:41:20.719 --> 01:41:22.390 align:start position:0% nuwe dwelm anders <01:41:20.975>as <01:41:21.231>elke <01:41:21.487>ander <01:41:21.743>ontwikkelde <01:41:21.999>land, 01:41:22.390 --> 01:41:22.400 align:start position:0% anders as elke ander ontwikkelde land, 01:41:22.400 --> 01:41:24.149 align:start position:0% anders as elke ander ontwikkelde land, hulle <01:41:22.666>kan <01:41:22.932>vra <01:41:23.198>wat <01:41:23.464>hulle <01:41:23.730>wil, <01:41:23.996>so 01:41:24.149 --> 01:41:24.159 align:start position:0% hulle kan vra wat hulle wil, so 01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:26.149 align:start position:0% hulle kan vra wat hulle wil, so hulle <01:41:24.345>het <01:41:24.531>'n <01:41:24.717>monopolie 01:41:26.149 --> 01:41:26.159 align:start position:0% hulle het 'n monopolie 01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:27.669 align:start position:0% hulle het 'n monopolie op <01:41:26.319>'n <01:41:26.479>nut 01:41:27.669 --> 01:41:27.679 align:start position:0% op 'n nut 01:41:27.679 --> 01:41:29.510 align:start position:0% op 'n nut omdat <01:41:27.852>niemand <01:41:28.025>anders <01:41:28.198>die <01:41:28.371>dwelm <01:41:28.544>kan <01:41:28.717>laat 01:41:29.510 --> 01:41:29.520 align:start position:0% omdat niemand anders die dwelm kan laat 01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:31.030 align:start position:0% omdat niemand anders die dwelm kan laat hef <01:41:29.693>wat <01:41:29.866>hulle <01:41:30.039>wil <01:41:30.212>nie <01:41:30.385>en <01:41:30.558>medicare 01:41:31.030 --> 01:41:31.040 align:start position:0% hef wat hulle wil nie en medicare 01:41:31.040 --> 01:41:33.350 align:start position:0% hef wat hulle wil nie en medicare moet <01:41:31.348>daarvoor <01:41:31.656>betaal <01:41:31.964>en <01:41:32.272>jy <01:41:32.580>sê <01:41:32.888>hoe <01:41:33.196>het 01:41:33.350 --> 01:41:33.360 align:start position:0% moet daarvoor betaal en jy sê hoe het 01:41:33.360 --> 01:41:36.629 align:start position:0% moet daarvoor betaal en jy sê hoe het ons <01:41:33.631>in <01:41:33.902>hierdie <01:41:34.173>mal <01:41:34.444>situasie <01:41:34.715>beland, 01:41:36.629 --> 01:41:36.639 align:start position:0% ons in hierdie mal situasie beland, 01:41:36.639 --> 01:41:39.669 align:start position:0% ons in hierdie mal situasie beland, so <01:41:36.927>hoe <01:41:37.215>ons <01:41:37.503>hier <01:41:37.791>gekom <01:41:38.079>het, <01:41:38.367>is <01:41:38.655>dat <01:41:38.943>in <01:41:39.231>2003 <01:41:39.519>toe 01:41:39.669 --> 01:41:39.679 align:start position:0% so hoe ons hier gekom het, is dat in 2003 toe 01:41:39.679 --> 01:41:41.990 align:start position:0% so hoe ons hier gekom het, is dat in 2003 toe medicare <01:41:39.919>deel <01:41:40.159>d <01:41:40.399>geslaag <01:41:40.639>is, <01:41:40.879>was 01:41:41.990 --> 01:41:42.000 align:start position:0% medicare deel d geslaag is, was 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:43.910 align:start position:0% medicare deel d geslaag is, was Billy <01:41:42.306>duisend <01:41:42.612>hoof <01:41:42.918>van <01:41:43.224>die <01:41:43.530>maniere <01:41:43.836>en 01:41:43.910 --> 01:41:43.920 align:start position:0% Billy duisend hoof van die maniere en 01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:45.830 align:start position:0% Billy duisend hoof van die maniere en middele <01:41:44.213>maniere <01:41:44.506>en 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befondsing in die wetenskap ja 01:42:22.080 --> 01:42:23.910 align:start position:0% oor befondsing in die wetenskap ja wat <01:42:22.360>doen <01:42:22.640>hulle <01:42:22.920>reg <01:42:23.200>wat <01:42:23.480>doen <01:42:23.760>hulle 01:42:23.910 --> 01:42:23.920 align:start position:0% wat doen hulle reg wat doen hulle 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:25.750 align:start position:0% wat doen hulle reg wat doen hulle verkeerd 01:42:25.750 --> 01:42:25.760 align:start position:0% verkeerd 01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:28.790 align:start position:0% verkeerd in <01:42:26.064>hierdie <01:42:26.368>wisselwerking <01:42:26.672>met <01:42:26.976>big <01:42:27.280>pharma 01:42:28.790 --> 01:42:28.800 align:start position:0% in hierdie wisselwerking met big pharma 01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:32.070 align:start position:0% in hierdie wisselwerking met big pharma hoe <01:42:29.120>verbind <01:42:29.440>is <01:42:29.760>hulle 01:42:32.070 --> 01:42:32.080 align:start position:0% 01:42:32.080 --> 01:42:34.390 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01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:07.990 align:start position:0% is nie werk <01:43:06.060>op <01:43:06.360>spesifieke <01:43:06.660>dwelms <01:43:06.960>nie 01:43:07.990 --> 01:43:08.000 align:start position:0% werk op spesifieke dwelms nie 01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:09.590 align:start position:0% werk op spesifieke dwelms nie maar <01:43:08.200>hulle <01:43:08.400>ontwikkel 01:43:09.590 --> 01:43:09.600 align:start position:0% maar hulle ontwikkel 01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:12.310 align:start position:0% maar hulle ontwikkel werk <01:43:10.320>op <01:43:11.040>dwelmteikens 01:43:12.310 --> 01:43:12.320 align:start position:0% werk op dwelmteikens 01:43:12.320 --> 01:43:13.030 align:start position:0% werk op dwelmteikens op 01:43:13.030 --> 01:43:13.040 align:start position:0% op 01:43:13.040 --> 01:43:15.030 align:start position:0% op teikens <01:43:13.392>in <01:43:13.744>die <01:43:14.096>menslike <01:43:14.448>liggaam <01:43:14.800>wat 01:43:15.030 --> 01:43:15.040 align:start position:0% teikens in 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01:43:23.440 align:start position:0% en dan kan die medisynemaatskappye wanneer 01:43:23.440 --> 01:43:25.510 align:start position:0% en dan kan die medisynemaatskappye wanneer hulle <01:43:23.759>'n <01:43:24.078>teiken <01:43:24.397>vind <01:43:24.716>wat 01:43:25.510 --> 01:43:25.520 align:start position:0% hulle 'n teiken vind wat 01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:26.709 align:start position:0% hulle 'n teiken vind wat veranderlik 01:43:26.709 --> 01:43:26.719 align:start position:0% veranderlik 01:43:26.719 --> 01:43:29.590 align:start position:0% veranderlik is <01:43:27.107>en <01:43:27.495>potensieel <01:43:27.883>voordelig <01:43:28.271>is, <01:43:28.659>dan <01:43:29.047>kan <01:43:29.435>die 01:43:29.590 --> 01:43:29.600 align:start position:0% is en potensieel voordelig is, dan kan die 01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:32.149 align:start position:0% is en potensieel voordelig is, dan kan die medisynemaatskappye <01:43:30.064>kan <01:43:30.528>die <01:43:30.992>navorsing <01:43:31.456>neem 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vanuit die satelliet-aansig 01:43:58.400 --> 01:44:02.629 align:start position:0% weer vanuit die satelliet-aansig belê <01:43:59.240>die <01:44:00.080>nih 01:44:02.629 --> 01:44:02.639 align:start position:0% belê die nih 01:44:02.639 --> 01:44:05.350 align:start position:0% belê die nih meer <01:44:03.259>in <01:44:03.879>wetenskap <01:44:04.499>wat <01:44:05.119>tot 01:44:05.350 --> 01:44:05.360 align:start position:0% meer in wetenskap wat tot 01:44:05.360 --> 01:44:07.270 align:start position:0% meer in wetenskap wat tot kommersiële <01:44:05.640>ontwikkeling <01:44:05.920>kan 01:44:07.270 --> 01:44:07.280 align:start position:0% kommersiële ontwikkeling kan 01:44:07.280 --> 01:44:08.870 align:start position:0% kommersiële ontwikkeling kan lei <01:44:07.462>haar <01:44:07.644>as <01:44:07.826>wat <01:44:08.008>jy <01:44:08.190>aan <01:44:08.372>die <01:44:08.554>begin 01:44:08.870 --> 01:44:08.880 align:start position:0% lei haar as wat jy aan die begin 01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:11.510 align:start position:0% lei haar as wat jy aan die begin van <01:44:09.120>die <01:44:09.360>podcast <01:44:09.600>gesê <01:44:09.840>het, <01:44:10.080>is <01:44:10.320>daar <01:44:10.560>geen <01:44:10.800>groot <01:44:11.040>fiksheids- 01:44:11.510 --> 01:44:11.520 align:start position:0% van die podcast gesê het, is daar geen groot fiksheids- 01:44:11.520 --> 01:44:14.870 align:start position:0% van die podcast gesê het, is daar geen groot fiksheids- en <01:44:11.908>leefstylbedryf <01:44:12.296>wat <01:44:12.684>farmaseutiese <01:44:13.072>produkte <01:44:13.460>kan <01:44:13.848>teenwerk <01:44:14.236>nie, 01:44:14.870 --> 01:44:14.880 align:start position:0% en leefstylbedryf wat farmaseutiese produkte kan teenwerk nie, 01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:15.910 align:start position:0% en leefstylbedryf wat farmaseutiese produkte kan teenwerk nie, 01:44:15.910 --> 01:44:15.920 align:start position:0% 01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:18.629 align:start position:0% so <01:44:16.333>ek <01:44:16.746>dink <01:44:17.159>op <01:44:17.572>die <01:44:17.985>nih-vlak <01:44:18.398>dat 01:44:18.629 --> 01:44:18.639 align:start position:0% so ek dink op die nih-vlak dat 01:44:18.639 --> 01:44:20.790 align:start position:0% so ek dink op die nih-vlak dat teenwerk <01:44:18.892>gedoen <01:44:19.145>kan <01:44:19.398>word <01:44:19.651>en <01:44:19.904>die <01:44:20.157>diabetesvoorkomingprogramstudie 01:44:20.790 --> 01:44:20.800 align:start position:0% teenwerk gedoen kan word en die diabetesvoorkomingprogramstudie 01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:22.950 align:start position:0% teenwerk gedoen kan word en die diabetesvoorkomingprogramstudie waaroor <01:44:22.719>ons 01:44:22.950 --> 01:44:22.960 align:start position:0% waaroor ons 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.350 align:start position:0% waaroor ons voorheen <01:44:23.279>gepraat <01:44:23.598>het, <01:44:23.917>waar <01:44:24.236>lewenstyl <01:44:24.555>deel <01:44:24.874>was <01:44:25.193>van 01:44:25.350 --> 01:44:25.360 align:start position:0% voorheen gepraat het, waar lewenstyl deel was van 01:44:25.360 --> 01:44:27.109 align:start position:0% voorheen gepraat het, waar lewenstyl deel was van 'n <01:44:25.588>ewekansige <01:44:25.816>proef <01:44:26.044>en <01:44:26.272>is <01:44:26.500>getoon <01:44:26.728>dat <01:44:26.956>dit 01:44:27.109 --> 01:44:27.119 align:start position:0% 'n ewekansige proef en is getoon dat dit 01:44:27.119 --> 01:44:28.870 align:start position:0% 'n ewekansige proef en is getoon dat dit meer <01:44:27.519>effektief <01:44:27.919>is <01:44:28.319>as <01:44:28.719>metformien 01:44:28.870 --> 01:44:28.880 align:start position:0% meer effektief is as metformien 01:44:28.880 --> 01:44:30.870 align:start position:0% meer effektief is as metformien om <01:44:29.053>die <01:44:29.226>ontwikkeling <01:44:29.399>van <01:44:29.572>diabetes <01:44:29.745>te <01:44:29.918>voorkom, 01:44:30.870 --> 01:44:30.880 align:start position:0% om die ontwikkeling van diabetes te voorkom, 01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:34.550 align:start position:0% om die ontwikkeling van diabetes te voorkom, wat <01:44:31.568>'n <01:44:32.256>absolute <01:44:32.944>bewys <01:44:33.632>is <01:44:34.320>dat 01:44:34.550 --> 01:44:34.560 align:start position:0% wat 'n absolute bewys is dat 01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:36.149 align:start position:0% wat 'n absolute bewys is dat belegging <01:44:34.920>in <01:44:35.280>daardie <01:44:35.640>soort <01:44:36.000>wetenskap 01:44:36.149 --> 01:44:36.159 align:start position:0% belegging in daardie soort wetenskap 01:44:36.159 --> 01:44:37.750 align:start position:0% belegging in daardie soort wetenskap goeie <01:44:36.345>resultate <01:44:36.531>kan <01:44:36.717>lewer, 01:44:37.750 --> 01:44:37.760 align:start position:0% goeie resultate kan lewer, 01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:40.229 align:start position:0% goeie resultate kan lewer, so <01:44:38.106>ek <01:44:38.452>dink <01:44:38.798>dat 01:44:40.229 --> 01:44:40.239 align:start position:0% so ek dink dat 01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:42.950 align:start position:0% so ek dink dat ons <01:44:40.599>gemik <01:44:40.959>is <01:44:41.319>op <01:44:41.679>geneesmiddelontwikkeling 01:44:42.950 --> 01:44:42.960 align:start position:0% ons gemik is op geneesmiddelontwikkeling 01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:45.229 align:start position:0% ons gemik is op geneesmiddelontwikkeling en <01:44:43.160>wat <01:44:43.360>ons <01:44:43.560>behoort <01:44:43.760>te <01:44:43.960>doen <01:44:44.160>daarop <01:44:44.360>gemik <01:44:44.560>word, <01:44:44.760>is <01:44:44.960>'n 01:44:45.229 --> 01:44:45.239 align:start position:0% en wat ons behoort te doen daarop gemik word, is 'n 01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:47.590 align:start position:0% en wat ons behoort te doen daarop gemik word, is 'n epidemiologiese <01:44:46.320>benadering 01:44:47.590 --> 01:44:47.600 align:start position:0% epidemiologiese benadering 01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:49.830 align:start position:0% epidemiologiese benadering tot <01:44:47.810>die <01:44:48.020>verbetering <01:44:48.230>van <01:44:48.440>die <01:44:48.650>gesondheid <01:44:48.860>van <01:44:49.070>alle <01:44:49.280>Amerikaners, 01:44:49.830 --> 01:44:49.840 align:start position:0% tot die verbetering van die gesondheid van alle Amerikaners, 01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:50.870 align:start position:0% tot die verbetering van die gesondheid van alle Amerikaners, ons <01:44:50.000>is 01:44:50.870 --> 01:44:50.880 align:start position:0% ons is 01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:53.109 align:start position:0% ons is 68ste <01:44:51.213>in <01:44:51.546>die <01:44:51.879>wêreld <01:44:52.212>in <01:44:52.545>'n <01:44:52.878>gesonde 01:44:53.109 --> 01:44:53.119 align:start position:0% 68ste in die wêreld in 'n gesonde 01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:54.870 align:start position:0% 68ste in die wêreld in 'n gesonde lewensverwagting, 01:44:54.870 --> 01:44:54.880 align:start position:0% lewensverwagting, 01:44:54.880 --> 01:44:56.709 align:start position:0% lewensverwagting, ondanks <01:44:55.099>die <01:44:55.318>besteding <01:44:55.537>van <01:44:55.756>'n <01:44:55.975>ekstra <01:44:56.194>triljoen <01:44:56.413>en <01:44:56.632>'n 01:44:56.709 --> 01:44:56.719 align:start position:0% ondanks die besteding van 'n ekstra triljoen en 'n 01:44:56.719 --> 01:44:58.950 align:start position:0% ondanks die besteding van 'n ekstra triljoen en 'n half <01:44:56.986>dollar <01:44:57.253>per <01:44:57.520>jaar 01:44:58.950 --> 01:44:58.960 align:start position:0% half dollar per jaar 01:44:58.960 --> 01:44:59.990 align:start position:0% half dollar per jaar en 01:44:59.990 --> 01:45:00.000 align:start position:0% en 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:02.390 align:start position:0% en ek <01:45:00.599>glo <01:45:01.198>sterk 01:45:02.390 --> 01:45:02.400 align:start position:0% ek glo sterk 01:45:02.400 --> 01:45:04.629 align:start position:0% ek glo sterk dat <01:45:02.720>die <01:45:03.040>rede <01:45:03.360>waarom <01:45:03.680>ons <01:45:04.000>in <01:45:04.320>hierdie 01:45:04.629 --> 01:45:04.639 align:start position:0% dat die rede waarom ons in hierdie 01:45:04.639 --> 01:45:06.790 align:start position:0% dat die rede waarom ons in hierdie gek <01:45:04.799>beland <01:45:04.959>het <01:45:05.119>posisie 01:45:06.790 --> 01:45:06.800 align:start position:0% gek beland het posisie 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:08.070 align:start position:0% gek beland het posisie is <01:45:07.040>omdat 01:45:08.070 --> 01:45:08.080 align:start position:0% is omdat 01:45:08.080 --> 01:45:10.149 align:start position:0% is omdat ons <01:45:08.384>die <01:45:08.688>kennis <01:45:08.992>wat <01:45:09.296>ons <01:45:09.600>vervaardig, 01:45:10.149 --> 01:45:10.159 align:start position:0% ons die kennis wat ons vervaardig, 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:12.390 align:start position:0% ons die kennis wat ons vervaardig, gaan <01:45:10.367>oor <01:45:10.575>nuwe <01:45:10.783>middels <01:45:10.991>en <01:45:11.199>toestelle 01:45:12.390 --> 01:45:12.400 align:start position:0% gaan oor nuwe middels en toestelle 01:45:12.400 --> 01:45:14.870 align:start position:0% gaan oor nuwe middels en toestelle en <01:45:12.662>dit <01:45:12.924>gaan <01:45:13.186>nie <01:45:13.448>oor <01:45:13.710>die <01:45:13.972>verbetering <01:45:14.234>van 01:45:14.870 --> 01:45:14.880 align:start position:0% en dit gaan nie oor die verbetering van 01:45:14.880 --> 01:45:17.910 align:start position:0% en dit gaan nie oor die verbetering van bevolkingsgesondheid <01:45:15.240>in <01:45:15.600>hierdie <01:45:15.960>pr. <01:45:16.320>oblem <01:45:16.680>die <01:45:17.040>nih <01:45:17.400>is <01:45:17.760>die 01:45:17.910 --> 01:45:17.920 align:start position:0% bevolkingsgesondheid in hierdie pr. oblem die nih is die 01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:20.870 align:start position:0% bevolkingsgesondheid in hierdie pr. oblem die nih is die perfekte <01:45:18.259>instelling <01:45:18.598>om <01:45:18.937>'n <01:45:19.276>rol <01:45:19.615>te <01:45:19.954>speel <01:45:20.293>in <01:45:20.632>die 01:45:20.870 --> 01:45:20.880 align:start position:0% perfekte instelling om 'n rol te speel in die 01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:23.350 align:start position:0% perfekte instelling om 'n rol te speel in die herbalansering <01:45:21.343>van <01:45:21.806>ons <01:45:22.269>navorsingsagenda <01:45:22.732>en <01:45:23.195>sommige 01:45:23.350 --> 01:45:23.360 align:start position:0% herbalansering van ons navorsingsagenda en sommige 01:45:23.360 --> 01:45:25.189 align:start position:0% herbalansering van ons navorsingsagenda en sommige daarvan <01:45:23.648>is <01:45:23.936>aan <01:45:24.224>die <01:45:24.512>leierskapkant <01:45:24.800>met 01:45:25.189 --> 01:45:25.199 align:start position:0% daarvan is aan die leierskapkant met 01:45:25.199 --> 01:45:27.830 align:start position:0% daarvan is aan die leierskapkant met francis <01:45:25.471>collins <01:45:25.743>en <01:45:26.015>anthony <01:45:26.287>fauci <01:45:26.559>wat 01:45:27.830 --> 01:45:27.840 align:start position:0% francis collins en anthony fauci wat 01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:31.430 align:start position:0% francis collins en anthony fauci wat nie <01:45:28.720>net <01:45:29.600>praat <01:45:30.480>oor 01:45:31.430 --> 01:45:31.440 align:start position:0% nie net praat oor 01:45:31.440 --> 01:45:32.950 align:start position:0% nie net praat oor basies <01:45:31.712>alles <01:45:31.984>wat <01:45:32.256>net <01:45:32.528>lei <01:45:32.800>tot 01:45:32.950 --> 01:45:32.960 align:start position:0% basies alles wat net lei tot 01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:34.790 align:start position:0% basies alles wat net lei tot die <01:45:33.239>ontwikkeling <01:45:33.518>van <01:45:33.797>geneesmiddelontwikkeling <01:45:34.076>entstowwe <01:45:34.355>nie, <01:45:34.634>maar 01:45:34.790 --> 01:45:34.800 align:start position:0% die ontwikkeling van geneesmiddelontwikkeling entstowwe nie, maar 01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:36.629 align:start position:0% die ontwikkeling van geneesmiddelontwikkeling entstowwe nie, maar ook <01:45:35.100>praat <01:45:35.400>oor <01:45:35.700>gesonde <01:45:36.000>leefstyl 01:45:36.629 --> 01:45:36.639 align:start position:0% ook praat oor gesonde leefstyl 01:45:36.639 --> 01:45:37.430 align:start position:0% ook praat oor gesonde leefstyl en 01:45:37.430 --> 01:45:37.440 align:start position:0% en 01:45:37.440 --> 01:45:39.510 align:start position:0% en uh <01:45:37.733>praat <01:45:38.026>oor <01:45:38.319>gesondheid 01:45:39.510 --> 01:45:39.520 align:start position:0% uh praat oor gesondheid 01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:42.149 align:start position:0% uh praat oor gesondheid nie <01:45:39.851>net <01:45:40.182>siekte <01:45:40.513>nie <01:45:40.844>ja <01:45:41.175>en <01:45:41.506>belê <01:45:41.837>en 01:45:42.149 --> 01:45:42.159 align:start position:0% nie net siekte nie ja en belê en 01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:44.390 align:start position:0% nie net siekte nie ja en belê en belê <01:45:42.479>in <01:45:42.799>ek <01:45:43.119>bedoel 01:45:44.390 --> 01:45:44.400 align:start position:0% belê in ek bedoel 01:45:44.400 --> 01:45:47.270 align:start position:0% belê in ek bedoel dit <01:45:44.639>is <01:45:44.878>soos <01:45:45.117>uh 01:45:47.270 --> 01:45:47.280 align:start position:0% dit is soos uh 01:45:47.280 --> 01:45:49.350 align:start position:0% dit is soos uh dit <01:45:47.493>fooi <01:45:47.706>een <01:45:47.919>fooi <01:45:48.132>is <01:45:48.345>die <01:45:48.558>ander <01:45:48.771>een <01:45:48.984>wat <01:45:49.197>u 01:45:49.350 --> 01:45:49.360 align:start position:0% dit fooi een fooi is die ander een wat u 01:45:49.360 --> 01:45:51.270 align:start position:0% dit fooi een fooi is die ander een wat u moet <01:45:49.696>kommunikeer <01:45:50.032>aan <01:45:50.368>die <01:45:50.704>publiek <01:45:51.040>die 01:45:51.270 --> 01:45:51.280 align:start position:0% moet kommunikeer aan die publiek die 01:45:51.280 --> 01:45:53.990 align:start position:0% moet kommunikeer aan die publiek die belangrikheid <01:45:51.808>van <01:45:52.336>belegging <01:45:52.864>in <01:45:53.392>gesondheid <01:45:53.920>en 01:45:53.990 --> 01:45:54.000 align:start position:0% belangrikheid van belegging in gesondheid en 01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:55.830 align:start position:0% belangrikheid van belegging in gesondheid en dit <01:45:54.266>lei <01:45:54.532>daartoe <01:45:54.798>dat 01:45:55.830 --> 01:45:55.840 align:start position:0% dit lei daartoe dat 01:45:55.840 --> 01:45:57.669 align:start position:0% dit lei daartoe dat u <01:45:56.640>rekwisiete <01:45:57.440>vir 01:45:57.669 --> 01:45:57.679 align:start position:0% u rekwisiete vir 01:45:57.679 --> 01:45:59.109 align:start position:0% u rekwisiete vir belegging <01:45:57.779>in <01:45:57.879>gesondheid <01:45:57.979>en <01:45:58.079>dan <01:45:58.179>kan <01:45:58.279>jy <01:45:58.379>meer <01:45:58.479>en <01:45:58.579>meer <01:45:58.679>in <01:45:58.779>gesondheid <01:45:58.879>belê 01:45:59.109 --> 01:45:59.119 align:start position:0% belegging in gesondheid en dan kan jy meer en meer in gesondheid belê 01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:01.350 align:start position:0% belegging in gesondheid en dan kan jy meer en meer in gesondheid belê en <01:45:59.659>dan <01:46:00.199>kommunikeer <01:46:00.739>dit <01:46:01.279>ek 01:46:01.350 --> 01:46:01.360 align:start position:0% en dan kommunikeer dit ek 01:46:01.360 --> 01:46:03.189 align:start position:0% en dan kommunikeer dit ek bedoel <01:46:01.680>alles <01:46:02.000>wat <01:46:02.320>anthony <01:46:02.640>fauci <01:46:02.960>sê 01:46:03.189 --> 01:46:03.199 align:start position:0% bedoel alles wat anthony fauci sê 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:05.750 align:start position:0% bedoel alles wat anthony fauci sê wat <01:46:03.559>francis <01:46:03.919>collins <01:46:04.279>sê <01:46:04.639>het <01:46:04.999>'n <01:46:05.359>impak 01:46:05.750 --> 01:46:05.760 align:start position:0% wat francis collins sê het 'n impak 01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:07.109 align:start position:0% wat francis collins sê het 'n impak op <01:46:05.920>wetenskaplikes 01:46:07.109 --> 01:46:07.119 align:start position:0% op wetenskaplikes 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:08.709 align:start position:0% op wetenskaplikes ek <01:46:07.239>bedoel <01:46:07.359>die 01:46:08.709 --> 01:46:08.719 align:start position:0% ek bedoel die 01:46:08.719 --> 01:46:09.910 align:start position:0% ek bedoel die jy <01:46:08.959>weet <01:46:09.199>dit 01:46:09.910 --> 01:46:09.920 align:start position:0% jy weet dit 01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:12.550 align:start position:0% jy weet dit dit <01:46:10.333>stel <01:46:10.746>die <01:46:11.159>prioriteite <01:46:11.572>ek <01:46:11.985>dink <01:46:12.398>nie 01:46:12.550 --> 01:46:12.560 align:start position:0% dit stel die prioriteite ek dink nie 01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:13.590 align:start position:0% dit stel die prioriteite ek dink nie hulle 01:46:13.590 --> 01:46:13.600 align:start position:0% hulle 01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:16.709 align:start position:0% hulle dit <01:46:13.853>is <01:46:14.106>die <01:46:14.359>hartseer <01:46:14.612>ding <01:46:14.865>van <01:46:15.118>leiers 01:46:16.709 --> 01:46:16.719 align:start position:0% dit is die hartseer ding van leiers 01:46:16.719 --> 01:46:18.629 align:start position:0% dit is die hartseer ding van leiers um 01:46:18.629 --> 01:46:18.639 align:start position:0% um 01:46:18.639 --> 01:46:20.149 align:start position:0% um vergewe <01:46:18.822>my <01:46:19.005>dat <01:46:19.188>ek <01:46:19.371>die <01:46:19.554>woord <01:46:19.737>sê, <01:46:19.920>maar 01:46:20.149 --> 01:46:20.159 align:start position:0% vergewe my dat ek die woord sê, maar 01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:21.990 align:start position:0% vergewe my dat ek die woord sê, maar middelmatige <01:46:20.880>leiers 01:46:21.990 --> 01:46:22.000 align:start position:0% middelmatige leiers 01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:24.709 align:start position:0% middelmatige leiers is <01:46:22.368>hulle <01:46:22.736>sien <01:46:23.104>hulself <01:46:23.472>nie <01:46:23.840>as 01:46:24.709 --> 01:46:24.719 align:start position:0% is hulle sien hulself nie as 01:46:24.719 --> 01:46:26.709 align:start position:0% is hulle sien hulself nie as deel <01:46:24.859>van <01:46:24.999>'n <01:46:25.139>g <01:46:25.279>ame 01:46:26.709 --> 01:46:26.719 align:start position:0% deel van 'n g ame 01:46:26.719 --> 01:46:27.669 align:start position:0% deel van 'n g ame hulle 01:46:27.669 --> 01:46:27.679 align:start position:0% hulle 01:46:27.679 --> 01:46:30.149 align:start position:0% hulle uh <01:46:27.911>hulle <01:46:28.143>sien <01:46:28.375>nie <01:46:28.607>die <01:46:28.839>momentum <01:46:29.071>nie <01:46:29.303>dit <01:46:29.535>is <01:46:29.767>soos <01:46:29.999>' 01:46:30.149 --> 01:46:30.159 align:start position:0% uh hulle sien nie die momentum nie dit is soos ' 01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:31.669 align:start position:0% uh hulle sien nie die momentum nie dit is soos ' n <01:46:30.339>vis <01:46:30.519>in <01:46:30.699>die <01:46:30.879>water <01:46:31.059>hulle <01:46:31.239>sien <01:46:31.419>nie <01:46:31.599>die 01:46:31.669 --> 01:46:31.679 align:start position:0% n vis in die water hulle sien nie die 01:46:31.679 --> 01:46:33.109 align:start position:0% n vis in die water hulle sien nie die water nie 01:46:33.109 --> 01:46:33.119 align:start position:0% water nie 01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:35.430 align:start position:0% water nie groot <01:46:33.427>leiers <01:46:33.735>staan <01:46:34.043>op <01:46:34.351>en <01:46:34.659>keer <01:46:34.967>die <01:46:35.275>rigti 01:46:35.430 --> 01:46:35.440 align:start position:0% groot leiers staan op en keer die rigti 01:46:35.440 --> 01:46:37.830 align:start position:0% groot leiers staan op en keer die rigti g <01:46:35.700>van <01:46:35.960>hoe <01:46:36.220>dinge <01:46:36.480>gaan <01:46:36.740>en <01:46:37.000>ek <01:46:37.260>sit <01:46:37.520>e 01:46:37.830 --> 01:46:37.840 align:start position:0% g van hoe dinge gaan en ek sit e 01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:40.790 align:start position:0% g van hoe dinge gaan en ek sit e ntlik <01:46:38.133>baie <01:46:38.426>verantwoordelikheid <01:46:38.719>sommi 01:46:40.790 --> 01:46:40.800 align:start position:0% ntlik baie verantwoordelikheid sommi 01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:43.510 align:start position:0% ntlik baie verantwoordelikheid sommi e <01:46:41.093>mense <01:46:41.386>sê <01:46:41.679>te <01:46:41.972>veel <01:46:42.265>maar <01:46:42.558>wat <01:46:42.851>ek <01:46:43.144>ook <01:46:43.437>al 01:46:43.510 --> 01:46:43.520 align:start position:0% e mense sê te veel maar wat ek ook al 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:45.030 align:start position:0% e mense sê te veel maar wat ek ook al dink <01:46:43.840>leiers 01:46:45.030 --> 01:46:45.040 align:start position:0% dink leiers 01:46:45.040 --> 01:46:46.950 align:start position:0% dink leiers dra <01:46:45.408>die <01:46:45.776>verantwoordelikheid, <01:46:46.144>ek <01:46:46.512>plaas <01:46:46.880>baie 01:46:46.950 --> 01:46:46.960 align:start position:0% dra die verantwoordelikheid, ek plaas baie 01:46:46.960 --> 01:46:48.790 align:start position:0% dra die verantwoordelikheid, ek plaas baie verantwoordelikheid <01:46:47.399>op <01:46:47.838>anthony <01:46:48.277>fauci <01:46:48.716>en 01:46:48.790 --> 01:46:48.800 align:start position:0% verantwoordelikheid op anthony fauci en 01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:50.870 align:start position:0% verantwoordelikheid op anthony fauci en francis <01:46:49.152>collins <01:46:49.504>omdat <01:46:49.856>hulle <01:46:50.208>nie <01:46:50.560>eintlik 01:46:50.870 --> 01:46:50.880 align:start position:0% francis collins omdat hulle nie eintlik 01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:53.030 align:start position:0% francis collins omdat hulle nie eintlik baie <01:46:51.104>meer <01:46:51.328>oor <01:46:51.552>gesondheid <01:46:51.776>gepraat <01:46:52.000>het 01:46:53.030 --> 01:46:53.040 align:start position:0% baie meer oor gesondheid gepraat het 01:46:53.040 --> 01:46:54.550 align:start position:0% baie meer oor gesondheid gepraat het nie 01:46:54.550 --> 01:46:54.560 align:start position:0% nie 01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:59.270 align:start position:0% nie en <01:46:55.560>groter <01:46:56.560>mense 01:46:59.270 --> 01:46:59.280 align:start position:0% 01:46:59.280 --> 01:47:01.189 align:start position:0% in <01:46:59.440>die <01:46:59.600>mag 01:47:01.189 --> 01:47:01.199 align:start position:0% in die mag 01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:03.350 align:start position:0% in die mag en 01:47:03.350 --> 01:47:03.360 align:start position:0% en 01:47:03.360 --> 01:47:06.629 align:start position:0% en die <01:47:03.648>betroubaarheid <01:47:03.936>van <01:47:04.224>wetenskap <01:47:04.512>geïnspireer <01:47:04.800>het, 01:47:06.629 --> 01:47:06.639 align:start position:0% die betroubaarheid van wetenskap geïnspireer het, 01:47:06.639 --> 01:47:08.550 align:start position:0% die betroubaarheid van wetenskap geïnspireer het, jy <01:47:06.849>weet <01:47:07.059>dat <01:47:07.269>dit <01:47:07.479>op <01:47:07.689>die <01:47:07.899>skouers <01:47:08.109>is. <01:47:08.319>van 01:47:08.550 --> 01:47:08.560 align:start position:0% jy weet dat dit op die skouers is. van 01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:10.310 align:start position:0% jy weet dat dit op die skouers is. van um 01:47:10.310 --> 01:47:10.320 align:start position:0% um 01:47:10.320 --> 01:47:12.149 align:start position:0% um anthony <01:47:10.800>fauci 01:47:12.149 --> 01:47:12.159 align:start position:0% anthony fauci 01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:13.830 align:start position:0% anthony fauci uh <01:47:12.399>ek <01:47:12.639>gaan <01:47:12.879>my <01:47:13.119>daarvan <01:47:13.359>onthou <01:47:13.599>want 01:47:13.830 --> 01:47:13.840 align:start position:0% uh ek gaan my daarvan onthou want 01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:16.470 align:start position:0% uh ek gaan my daarvan onthou want ek <01:47:14.106>is <01:47:14.372>nie <01:47:14.638>kundig <01:47:14.904>genoeg <01:47:15.170>nie <01:47:15.436>maar <01:47:15.702>ek <01:47:15.968>ook <01:47:16.234>nie 01:47:16.470 --> 01:47:16.480 align:start position:0% ek is nie kundig genoeg nie maar ek ook nie 01:47:16.480 --> 01:47:19.510 align:start position:0% ek is nie kundig genoeg nie maar ek ook nie maar <01:47:16.613>ek <01:47:16.746>is <01:47:16.879>opinig 01:47:19.510 --> 01:47:19.520 align:start position:0% maar ek is opinig 01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:22.470 align:start position:0% maar ek is opinig ek <01:47:19.710>is <01:47:19.900>ook <01:47:20.090>maar <01:47:20.280>nie <01:47:20.470>op <01:47:20.660>kamera <01:47:20.850>nie <01:47:21.040>ja 01:47:22.470 --> 01:47:22.480 align:start position:0% ek is ook maar nie op kamera nie ja 01:47:22.480 --> 01:47:24.310 align:start position:0% ek is ook maar nie op kamera nie ja nee <01:47:22.760>maar <01:47:23.040>ernstig 01:47:24.310 --> 01:47:24.320 align:start position:0% nee maar ernstig 01:47:24.320 --> 01:47:27.030 align:start position:0% nee maar ernstig die <01:47:24.700>probleem <01:47:25.080>is <01:47:25.460>redelik <01:47:25.840>eenvoudig 01:47:27.030 --> 01:47:27.040 align:start position:0% die probleem is redelik eenvoudig 01:47:27.040 --> 01:47:30.149 align:start position:0% die probleem is redelik eenvoudig dat <01:47:27.455>ons <01:47:27.870>96 <01:47:28.285>belê <01:47:28.700>van <01:47:29.115>ons 01:47:30.149 --> 01:47:30.159 align:start position:0% dat ons 96 belê van ons 01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:32.390 align:start position:0% dat ons 96 belê van ons kliniese <01:47:30.575>befondsing <01:47:30.991>van <01:47:31.407>kliniese <01:47:31.823>navorsing <01:47:32.239>in 01:47:32.390 --> 01:47:32.400 align:start position:0% kliniese befondsing van kliniese navorsing in 01:47:32.400 --> 01:47:34.390 align:start position:0% kliniese befondsing van kliniese navorsing in dwelms <01:47:32.600>en <01:47:32.800>toestelle 01:47:34.390 --> 01:47:34.400 align:start position:0% dwelms en toestelle 01:47:34.400 --> 01:47:36.870 align:start position:0% dwelms en toestelle en <01:47:34.731>80 <01:47:35.062>van <01:47:35.393>ons <01:47:35.724>gesondheid <01:47:36.055>word <01:47:36.386>bepaal <01:47:36.717>deur 01:47:36.870 --> 01:47:36.880 align:start position:0% en 80 van ons gesondheid word bepaal deur 01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:39.109 align:start position:0% en 80 van ons gesondheid word bepaal deur hoe <01:47:37.120>ons <01:47:37.360>ons <01:47:37.600>lewens <01:47:37.840>leef <01:47:38.080>ja 01:47:39.109 --> 01:47:39.119 align:start position:0% hoe ons ons lewens leef ja 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:40.310 align:start position:0% hoe ons ons lewens leef ja en 01:47:40.310 --> 01:47:40.320 align:start position:0% en 01:47:40.320 --> 01:47:43.109 align:start position:0% en dit <01:47:40.662>is <01:47:41.004>belaglik <01:47:41.346>ons <01:47:41.688>is <01:47:42.030>die <01:47:42.372>Verenigde <01:47:42.714>State 01:47:43.109 --> 01:47:43.119 align:start position:0% dit is belaglik ons is die Verenigde State 01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:45.590 align:start position:0% dit is belaglik ons is die Verenigde State gaan <01:47:43.599>al <01:47:44.079>hoe <01:47:44.559>verder <01:47:45.039>agter 01:47:45.590 --> 01:47:45.600 align:start position:0% gaan al hoe verder agter 01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:48.950 align:start position:0% gaan al hoe verder agter die <01:47:46.666>ander <01:47:47.732>ryk <01:47:48.798>lande 01:47:48.950 --> 01:47:48.960 align:start position:0% die ander ryk lande 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.109 align:start position:0% die ander ryk lande wat <01:47:49.191>ons <01:47:49.422>gesondheid <01:47:49.653>betref, <01:47:49.884>het <01:47:50.115>ons <01:47:50.346>die <01:47:50.577>38ste <01:47:50.808>posisie <01:47:51.039>in 01:47:51.109 --> 01:47:51.119 align:start position:0% wat ons gesondheid betref, het ons die 38ste posisie in 01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:54.149 align:start position:0% wat ons gesondheid betref, het ons die 38ste posisie in gesonde <01:47:51.779>lewensverwagting <01:47:52.439>in <01:47:53.099>2000 <01:47:53.759>en 01:47:54.149 --> 01:47:54.159 align:start position:0% gesonde lewensverwagting in 2000 en 01:47:54.159 --> 01:47:55.990 align:start position:0% gesonde lewensverwagting in 2000 en nou <01:47:54.387>spandeer <01:47:54.615>ons <01:47:54.843>'n <01:47:55.071>triljoen <01:47:55.299>en <01:47:55.527>'n <01:47:55.755>half 01:47:55.990 --> 01:47:56.000 align:start position:0% nou spandeer ons 'n triljoen en 'n half 01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:58.790 align:start position:0% nou spandeer ons 'n triljoen en 'n half dollar <01:47:56.354>ekstra <01:47:56.708>en <01:47:57.062>ons <01:47:57.416>rangskik <01:47:57.770>68. <01:47:58.124>ons <01:47:58.478>het 01:47:58.790 --> 01:47:58.800 align:start position:0% dollar ekstra en ons rangskik 68. ons het 01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:01.189 align:start position:0% dollar ekstra en ons rangskik 68. ons het afgegaan, <01:47:59.131>jy <01:47:59.462>het <01:47:59.793>hierdie <01:48:00.124>uitstekende <01:48:00.455>daar <01:48:00.786>is <01:48:01.117>'n 01:48:01.189 --> 01:48:01.199 align:start position:0% afgegaan, jy het hierdie uitstekende daar is 'n 01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:05.430 align:start position:0% afgegaan, jy het hierdie uitstekende daar is 'n paar <01:48:01.705>uh <01:48:02.211>grafieke <01:48:02.717>wat <01:48:03.223>Ek <01:48:03.729>sal <01:48:04.235>dit 01:48:05.430 --> 01:48:08.149 align:start position:0% paar uh grafieke wat Ek sal dit 01:48:08.149 --> 01:48:08.159 align:start position:0% 01:48:08.159 --> 01:48:10.550 align:start position:0% op <01:48:08.439>baie <01:48:08.719>kragtige <01:48:08.999>maniere <01:48:09.279>vertel, <01:48:09.559>so <01:48:09.839>een <01:48:10.119>is <01:48:10.399>die 01:48:10.550 --> 01:48:10.560 align:start position:0% op baie kragtige maniere vertel, so een is die 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:13.510 align:start position:0% op baie kragtige maniere vertel, so een is die gesondheidsorgbesteding <01:48:10.979>is <01:48:11.398>persentasie <01:48:11.817>van <01:48:12.236>BBP 01:48:13.510 --> 01:48:13.520 align:start position:0% gesondheidsorgbesteding is persentasie van BBP 01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:15.750 align:start position:0% gesondheidsorgbesteding is persentasie van BBP wat <01:48:13.828>op <01:48:14.136>die <01:48:14.444>x-as <01:48:14.752>jare <01:48:15.060>is <01:48:15.368>en <01:48:15.676>die 01:48:15.750 --> 01:48:15.760 align:start position:0% wat op die x-as jare is en die 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:18.390 align:start position:0% wat op die x-as jare is en die y-as <01:48:16.320>persentasie <01:48:16.880>en <01:48:17.440>die <01:48:18.000>Verenigde 01:48:18.390 --> 01:48:18.400 align:start position:0% y-as persentasie en die Verenigde 01:48:18.400 --> 01:48:20.950 align:start position:0% y-as persentasie en die Verenigde State <01:48:18.731>is <01:48:19.062>gemiddeld <01:48:19.393>in <01:48:19.724>vergelyking <01:48:20.055>met <01:48:20.386>ander <01:48:20.717>lande 01:48:20.950 --> 01:48:20.960 align:start position:0% State is gemiddeld in vergelyking met ander lande 01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:21.990 align:start position:0% State is gemiddeld in vergelyking met ander lande 01:48:21.990 --> 01:48:22.000 align:start position:0% 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:23.030 align:start position:0% was 01:48:23.030 --> 01:48:23.040 align:start position:0% was 01:48:23.040 --> 01:48:25.109 align:start position:0% was baie <01:48:23.520>groter 01:48:25.109 --> 01:48:25.119 align:start position:0% baie groter 01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:27.270 align:start position:0% baie groter en <01:48:25.599>en <01:48:26.079>groei <01:48:26.559>reg, <01:48:27.039>ons 01:48:27.270 --> 01:48:27.280 align:start position:0% en en groei reg, ons 01:48:27.280 --> 01:48:31.030 align:start position:0% en en groei reg, ons bestee <01:48:27.599>nou <01:48:27.918>sewe <01:48:28.237>persent <01:48:28.556>meer <01:48:28.875>van <01:48:29.194>ons 01:48:31.030 --> 01:48:31.040 align:start position:0% bestee nou sewe persent meer van ons 01:48:31.040 --> 01:48:31.669 align:start position:0% bestee nou sewe persent meer van ons punt-bp- 01:48:31.669 --> 01:48:31.679 align:start position:0% punt-bp- 01:48:31.679 --> 01:48:33.990 align:start position:0% punt-bp- persentasie <01:48:32.159>teenoor <01:48:32.639>tien <01:48:33.119>komma-sewe <01:48:33.599>persent 01:48:33.990 --> 01:48:34.000 align:start position:0% persentasie teenoor tien komma-sewe persent 01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:35.270 align:start position:0% persentasie teenoor tien komma-sewe persent aan <01:48:34.480>gesondheidsorg 01:48:35.270 --> 01:48:35.280 align:start position:0% aan gesondheidsorg 01:48:35.280 --> 01:48:38.229 align:start position:0% aan gesondheidsorg sewe <01:48:35.630>persent <01:48:35.980>en <01:48:36.330>ek <01:48:36.680>dink <01:48:37.030>die <01:48:37.380>BBP <01:48:37.730>is <01:48:38.080>die 01:48:38.229 --> 01:48:38.239 align:start position:0% sewe persent en ek dink die BBP is die 01:48:38.239 --> 01:48:39.590 align:start position:0% sewe persent en ek dink die BBP is die regverdigste <01:48:38.479>manier <01:48:38.719>om <01:48:38.959>gesondheidsorgbesteding <01:48:39.199>te <01:48:39.439>vergelyk 01:48:39.590 --> 01:48:39.600 align:start position:0% regverdigste manier om gesondheidsorgbesteding te vergelyk 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:42.310 align:start position:0% regverdigste manier om gesondheidsorgbesteding te vergelyk , <01:48:40.013>was <01:48:40.426>per <01:48:40.839>persoon <01:48:41.252>in <01:48:41.665>dollars. <01:48:42.078>weer 01:48:42.310 --> 01:48:42.320 align:start position:0% , was per persoon in dollars. weer 01:48:42.320 --> 01:48:44.470 align:start position:0% , was per persoon in dollars. weer bestee, <01:48:42.703>selfs <01:48:43.086>die <01:48:43.469>verskil <01:48:43.852>is <01:48:44.235>selfs 01:48:44.470 --> 01:48:44.480 align:start position:0% bestee, selfs die verskil is selfs 01:48:44.480 --> 01:48:45.510 align:start position:0% bestee, selfs die verskil is selfs groter, 01:48:45.510 --> 01:48:45.520 align:start position:0% groter, 01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:48.870 align:start position:0% groter, maar <01:48:45.900>ander <01:48:46.280>koste <01:48:46.660>verskil <01:48:47.040>met <01:48:47.420>BBP, <01:48:47.800>so <01:48:48.180>kom <01:48:48.560>ons 01:48:48.870 --> 01:48:48.880 align:start position:0% maar ander koste verskil met BBP, so kom ons 01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:50.870 align:start position:0% maar ander koste verskil met BBP, so kom ons hou <01:48:49.080>by <01:48:49.280>die <01:48:49.480>konserwatiewe <01:48:49.680>manier <01:48:49.880>om <01:48:50.080>dit <01:48:50.280>te <01:48:50.480>doen 01:48:50.870 --> 01:48:50.880 align:start position:0% hou by die konserwatiewe manier om dit te doen 01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:53.030 align:start position:0% hou by die konserwatiewe manier om dit te doen 17,7 01:48:53.030 --> 01:48:53.040 align:start position:0% 17,7 01:48:53.040 --> 01:48:53.830 align:start position:0% 17,7 of 01:48:53.830 --> 01:48:53.840 align:start position:0% of 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:55.669 align:start position:0% of jy <01:48:54.039>weet <01:48:54.238>18 01:48:55.669 --> 01:48:55.679 align:start position:0% jy weet 18 01:48:55.679 --> 01:48:58.149 align:start position:0% jy weet 18 van <01:48:56.279>BBP <01:48:56.879>18 01:48:58.149 --> 01:48:58.159 align:start position:0% van BBP 18 01:48:58.159 --> 01:49:00.870 align:start position:0% van BBP 18 van <01:48:58.539>BBP <01:48:58.919>bestee <01:48:59.299>aan <01:48:59.679>gesondheidsorg 01:49:00.870 --> 01:49:00.880 align:start position:0% van BBP bestee aan gesondheidsorg 01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:03.350 align:start position:0% van BBP bestee aan gesondheidsorg sewe <01:49:01.200>persent <01:49:01.520>hoër <01:49:01.840>as <01:49:02.160>die <01:49:02.480>vergelyking <01:49:02.800>ble 01:49:03.350 --> 01:49:03.360 align:start position:0% sewe persent hoër as die vergelyking ble 01:49:03.360 --> 01:49:09.109 align:start position:0% sewe persent hoër as die vergelyking ble land <01:49:04.173>gemiddeld <01:49:04.986>reg <01:49:05.799>17,7 <01:49:06.612>teenoor <01:49:07.425>10,7 <01:49:08.238>7 01:49:09.109 --> 01:49:09.119 align:start position:0% land gemiddeld reg 17,7 teenoor 10,7 7 01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:11.830 align:start position:0% land gemiddeld reg 17,7 teenoor 10,7 7 hoër <01:49:09.599>regs <01:49:10.079>en <01:49:10.559>7 01:49:11.830 --> 01:49:11.840 align:start position:0% hoër regs en 7 01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:15.030 align:start position:0% hoër regs en 7 van <01:49:12.279>23 <01:49:12.718>triljoen <01:49:13.157>dollar <01:49:13.596>BBP 01:49:15.030 --> 01:49:15.040 align:start position:0% van 23 triljoen dollar BBP 01:49:15.040 --> 01:49:18.229 align:start position:0% van 23 triljoen dollar BBP is <01:49:15.417>meer <01:49:15.794>as <01:49:16.171>1,5 <01:49:16.548>triljoen <01:49:16.925>dollar <01:49:17.302>per <01:49:17.679>jaar 01:49:18.229 --> 01:49:18.239 align:start position:0% is meer as 1,5 triljoen dollar per jaar 01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:19.990 align:start position:0% is meer as 1,5 triljoen dollar per jaar in <01:49:18.422>oormaat <01:49:18.605>en <01:49:18.788>dan <01:49:18.971>het <01:49:19.154>jy <01:49:19.337>nog <01:49:19.520>'n 01:49:19.990 --> 01:49:20.000 align:start position:0% in oormaat en dan het jy nog 'n 01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:21.830 align:start position:0% in oormaat en dan het jy nog 'n grafiek <01:49:20.720>wat <01:49:21.440>gesondheidsorgstelsel 01:49:21.830 --> 01:49:21.840 align:start position:0% grafiek wat gesondheidsorgstelsel 01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:23.350 align:start position:0% grafiek wat gesondheidsorgstelsel prestasie 01:49:23.350 --> 01:49:23.360 align:start position:0% prestasie 01:49:23.360 --> 01:49:25.750 align:start position:0% prestasie in <01:49:23.520>vergelyking <01:49:23.680>met <01:49:23.840>besteding <01:49:24.000>toon 01:49:25.750 --> 01:49:25.760 align:start position:0% in vergelyking met besteding toon 01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:28.709 align:start position:0% in vergelyking met besteding toon en <01:49:26.171>daar <01:49:26.582>is <01:49:26.993>'n <01:49:27.404>wolk <01:49:27.815>'n <01:49:28.226>puntwolk <01:49:28.637>van 01:49:28.709 --> 01:49:28.719 align:start position:0% en daar is 'n wolk 'n puntwolk van 01:49:28.719 --> 01:49:30.550 align:start position:0% en daar is 'n wolk 'n puntwolk van verskillende <01:49:29.239>lande <01:49:29.759>die 01:49:30.550 --> 01:49:30.560 align:start position:0% verskillende lande die 01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:33.270 align:start position:0% verskillende lande die x-as <01:49:31.219>is <01:49:31.878>gesondheidsorgbesteding <01:49:32.537>is <01:49:33.196>'n 01:49:33.270 --> 01:49:33.280 align:start position:0% x-as is gesondheidsorgbesteding is 'n 01:49:33.280 --> 01:49:35.189 align:start position:0% x-as is gesondheidsorgbesteding is 'n persentasie <01:49:33.560>van <01:49:33.840>BBP <01:49:34.120>waaroor <01:49:34.400>ons <01:49:34.680>sopas <01:49:34.960>gepraat 01:49:35.189 --> 01:49:35.199 align:start position:0% persentasie van BBP waaroor ons sopas gepraat 01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:36.310 align:start position:0% persentasie van BBP waaroor ons sopas gepraat het 01:49:36.310 --> 01:49:36.320 align:start position:0% het 01:49:36.320 --> 01:49:38.709 align:start position:0% het dat <01:49:36.617>uh <01:49:36.914>ons <01:49:37.211>is <01:49:37.508>jy <01:49:37.805>weet <01:49:38.102>sewe <01:49:38.399>persent 01:49:38.709 --> 01:49:38.719 align:start position:0% dat uh ons is jy weet sewe persent 01:49:38.719 --> 01:49:40.950 align:start position:0% dat uh ons is jy weet sewe persent hoër <01:49:38.979>as <01:49:39.239>almal <01:49:39.499>die <01:49:39.759>gemiddelde 01:49:40.950 --> 01:49:40.960 align:start position:0% hoër as almal die gemiddelde 01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:44.390 align:start position:0% hoër as almal die gemiddelde en <01:49:41.291>dan <01:49:41.622>op <01:49:41.953>die <01:49:42.284>y-as <01:49:42.615>is <01:49:42.946>uh <01:49:43.277>prestasie 01:49:44.390 --> 01:49:44.400 align:start position:0% en dan op die y-as is uh prestasie 01:49:44.400 --> 01:49:48.149 align:start position:0% en dan op die y-as is uh prestasie so <01:49:45.020>x-as <01:49:45.640>besteding <01:49:46.260>y-as <01:49:46.880>prestasie 01:49:48.149 --> 01:49:48.159 align:start position:0% so x-as besteding y-as prestasie 01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:50.310 align:start position:0% so x-as besteding y-as prestasie en <01:49:48.399>daar <01:49:48.639>is <01:49:48.879>'n <01:49:49.119>puntwolk, <01:49:49.359>ons <01:49:49.599>sal <01:49:49.839>dit 01:49:50.310 --> 01:49:50.320 align:start position:0% en daar is 'n puntwolk, ons sal dit 01:49:50.320 --> 01:49:52.310 align:start position:0% en daar is 'n puntwolk, ons sal dit oorlê <01:49:50.493>as <01:49:50.666>jy <01:49:50.839>op <01:49:51.012>YouTube <01:49:51.185>kyk <01:49:51.358>na 01:49:52.310 --> 01:49:52.320 align:start position:0% oorlê as jy op YouTube kyk na 01:49:52.320 --> 01:49:55.830 align:start position:0% oorlê as jy op YouTube kyk na 'n <01:49:52.799>klomp <01:49:53.278>lande <01:49:53.757>wat <01:49:54.236>uh 01:49:55.830 --> 01:49:55.840 align:start position:0% 'n klomp lande wat uh 01:49:55.840 --> 01:49:57.589 align:start position:0% 'n klomp lande wat uh prestasie 01:49:57.589 --> 01:49:57.599 align:start position:0% prestasie 01:49:57.599 --> 01:49:58.550 align:start position:0% prestasie uh 01:49:58.550 --> 01:49:58.560 align:start position:0% uh 01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:02.629 align:start position:0% uh vir <01:49:58.944>wat <01:49:59.328>hulle <01:49:59.712>spandeer <01:50:00.096>en <01:50:00.480>dan 01:50:02.629 --> 01:50:02.639 align:start position:0% vir wat hulle spandeer en dan 01:50:02.639 --> 01:50:06.550 align:start position:0% vir wat hulle spandeer en dan is <01:50:03.265>ons <01:50:03.891>alleen <01:50:04.517>aan <01:50:05.143>die <01:50:05.769>regterkant <01:50:06.395>onderkant 01:50:06.550 --> 01:50:06.560 align:start position:0% is ons alleen aan die regterkant onderkant 01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:09.430 align:start position:0% is ons alleen aan die regterkant onderkant van <01:50:06.788>die <01:50:07.016>grafiek <01:50:07.244>waar <01:50:07.472>dit <01:50:07.700>is <01:50:07.928>lae <01:50:08.156>werkverrigting 01:50:09.430 --> 01:50:09.440 align:start position:0% van die grafiek waar dit is lae werkverrigting 01:50:09.440 --> 01:50:12.790 align:start position:0% van die grafiek waar dit is lae werkverrigting en <01:50:09.866>hoë <01:50:10.292>besteding <01:50:10.718>korrek 01:50:12.790 --> 01:50:12.800 align:start position:0% en hoë besteding korrek 01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:14.790 align:start position:0% en hoë besteding korrek so <01:50:12.999>dit <01:50:13.198>is <01:50:13.397>'n <01:50:13.596>stelsel 01:50:14.790 --> 01:50:14.800 align:start position:0% so dit is 'n stelsel 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:17.109 align:start position:0% so dit is 'n stelsel wat <01:50:15.519>voldoen <01:50:16.238>aan 01:50:17.109 --> 01:50:17.119 align:start position:0% wat voldoen aan 01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:19.830 align:start position:0% wat voldoen aan besteding <01:50:17.579>wat <01:50:18.039>gerig <01:50:18.499>word <01:50:18.959>deur 01:50:19.830 --> 01:50:19.840 align:start position:0% besteding wat gerig word deur 01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:21.589 align:start position:0% besteding wat gerig word deur die <01:50:20.034>mees <01:50:20.228>winsgewende <01:50:20.422>maniere <01:50:20.616>om <01:50:20.810>gesondheidsorg <01:50:21.004>te <01:50:21.198>lewer 01:50:21.589 --> 01:50:21.599 align:start position:0% die mees winsgewende maniere om gesondheidsorg te lewer 01:50:21.599 --> 01:50:23.589 align:start position:0% die mees winsgewende maniere om gesondheidsorg te lewer , <01:50:21.879>sodat <01:50:22.159>jy <01:50:22.439>dit <01:50:22.719>in <01:50:22.999>die <01:50:23.279>hande 01:50:23.589 --> 01:50:23.599 align:start position:0% , sodat jy dit in die hande 01:50:23.599 --> 01:50:27.189 align:start position:0% , sodat jy dit in die hande van <01:50:23.929>groot <01:50:24.259>farmaseutiese <01:50:24.589>farmaseutiese <01:50:24.919>produkte <01:50:25.249>plaas. <01:50:25.579>ximize <01:50:25.909>for <01:50:26.239>profit 01:50:27.189 --> 01:50:27.199 align:start position:0% van groot farmaseutiese farmaseutiese produkte plaas. ximize for profit 01:50:27.199 --> 01:50:29.750 align:start position:0% van groot farmaseutiese farmaseutiese produkte plaas. ximize for profit jy <01:50:27.572>gaan <01:50:27.945>prestasie <01:50:28.318>verminder 01:50:29.750 --> 01:50:29.760 align:start position:0% jy gaan prestasie verminder 01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:31.589 align:start position:0% jy gaan prestasie verminder en <01:50:30.040>uitgawes <01:50:30.320>verhoog 01:50:31.589 --> 01:50:31.599 align:start position:0% en uitgawes verhoog 01:50:31.599 --> 01:50:34.709 align:start position:0% en uitgawes verhoog ja <01:50:32.010>maar <01:50:32.421>ek <01:50:32.832>wil <01:50:33.243>dit <01:50:33.654>kwalifiseer <01:50:34.065>en <01:50:34.476>sê 01:50:34.709 --> 01:50:34.719 align:start position:0% ja maar ek wil dit kwalifiseer en sê 01:50:34.719 --> 01:50:36.790 align:start position:0% ja maar ek wil dit kwalifiseer en sê dis <01:50:34.905>nie <01:50:35.091>alles <01:50:35.277>groot <01:50:35.463>farmaseutiese <01:50:35.649>skuld <01:50:35.835>nie 01:50:36.790 --> 01:50:36.800 align:start position:0% dis nie alles groot farmaseutiese skuld nie 01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:38.790 align:start position:0% dis nie alles groot farmaseutiese skuld nie uh <01:50:37.062>hulle <01:50:37.324>is <01:50:37.586>nie <01:50:37.848>verantwoordelik <01:50:38.110>vir <01:50:38.372>al <01:50:38.634>die 01:50:38.790 --> 01:50:38.800 align:start position:0% uh hulle is nie verantwoordelik vir al die 01:50:38.800 --> 01:50:40.709 align:start position:0% uh hulle is nie verantwoordelik vir al die probleme <01:50:39.106>in <01:50:39.412>ons <01:50:39.718>gesondheidsorg <01:50:40.024>stelsel <01:50:40.330>nie <01:50:40.636>die 01:50:40.709 --> 01:50:40.719 align:start position:0% probleme in ons gesondheidsorg stelsel nie die 01:50:40.719 --> 01:50:42.149 align:start position:0% probleme in ons gesondheidsorg stelsel nie die adminis <01:50:40.913>hulle <01:50:41.107>is <01:50:41.301>nie <01:50:41.495>verantwoordelik <01:50:41.689>nie <01:50:41.883>vir <01:50:42.077>die 01:50:42.149 --> 01:50:42.159 align:start position:0% adminis hulle is nie verantwoordelik nie vir die 01:50:42.159 --> 01:50:44.470 align:start position:0% adminis hulle is nie verantwoordelik nie vir die administratiewe <01:50:42.759>koste <01:50:43.359>byvoorbeeld, 01:50:44.470 --> 01:50:44.480 align:start position:0% administratiewe koste byvoorbeeld, 01:50:44.480 --> 01:50:47.990 align:start position:0% administratiewe koste byvoorbeeld, maar <01:50:44.960>dit <01:50:45.440>is <01:50:45.920>die <01:50:46.400>grootste <01:50:46.880>komponent <01:50:47.360>van 01:50:47.990 --> 01:50:48.000 align:start position:0% maar dit is die grootste komponent van 01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:51.189 align:start position:0% maar dit is die grootste komponent van die <01:50:48.659>stygende <01:50:49.318>ons <01:50:49.977>stygende <01:50:50.636>gesondheidsorgkoste 01:50:51.189 --> 01:50:51.199 align:start position:0% die stygende ons stygende gesondheidsorgkoste 01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:53.109 align:start position:0% die stygende ons stygende gesondheidsorgkoste en <01:50:51.425>dit <01:50:51.651>het <01:50:51.877>te <01:50:52.103>make <01:50:52.329>met <01:50:52.555>hierdie 01:50:53.109 --> 01:50:53.119 align:start position:0% en dit het te make met hierdie 01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:54.070 align:start position:0% en dit het te make met hierdie kenniskwessie 01:50:54.070 --> 01:50:54.080 align:start position:0% kenniskwessie 01:50:54.080 --> 01:50:56.149 align:start position:0% kenniskwessie wat <01:50:54.479>die <01:50:54.878>kennis <01:50:55.277>wat <01:50:55.676>dokters 01:50:56.149 --> 01:50:56.159 align:start position:0% wat die kennis wat dokters 01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:57.830 align:start position:0% wat die kennis wat dokters het beheer, 01:50:57.830 --> 01:50:57.840 align:start position:0% het beheer, 01:50:57.840 --> 01:50:59.750 align:start position:0% het beheer, maak <01:50:58.015>dit <01:50:58.190>so <01:50:58.365>dat <01:50:58.540>dokters <01:50:58.715>met <01:50:58.890>hierdie <01:50:59.065>situasie <01:50:59.240>kan <01:50:59.415>saamleef <01:50:59.590>en 01:50:59.750 --> 01:50:59.760 align:start position:0% maak dit so dat dokters met hierdie situasie kan saamleef en 01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:02.310 align:start position:0% maak dit so dat dokters met hierdie situasie kan saamleef en glo <01:51:00.920>dat <01:51:02.080>dit 01:51:02.310 --> 01:51:02.320 align:start position:0% glo dat dit 01:51:02.320 --> 01:51:06.310 align:start position:0% glo dat dit optimaal <01:51:02.799>is <01:51:03.278>wanneer <01:51:03.757>dit <01:51:04.236>is <01:51:04.715>'n <01:51:05.194>wrak <01:51:05.673>ja <01:51:06.152>laat 01:51:06.310 --> 01:51:06.320 align:start position:0% optimaal is wanneer dit is 'n wrak ja laat 01:51:06.320 --> 01:51:08.870 align:start position:0% optimaal is wanneer dit is 'n wrak ja laat ek <01:51:06.489>jou <01:51:06.658>die <01:51:06.827>groot <01:51:06.996>vra <01:51:07.165>so <01:51:07.334>as <01:51:07.503>'n <01:51:07.672>dokter 01:51:08.870 --> 01:51:08.880 align:start position:0% ek jou die groot vra so as 'n dokter 01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:10.070 align:start position:0% ek jou die groot vra so as 'n dokter die 01:51:10.070 --> 01:51:10.080 align:start position:0% die 01:51:10.080 --> 01:51:11.910 align:start position:0% die so <01:51:10.279>alles <01:51:10.478>wat <01:51:10.677>jy <01:51:10.876>gesien <01:51:11.075>het, <01:51:11.274>ons <01:51:11.473>het <01:51:11.672>gepraat 01:51:11.910 --> 01:51:11.920 align:start position:0% so alles wat jy gesien het, ons het gepraat 01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:13.589 align:start position:0% so alles wat jy gesien het, ons het gepraat oor <01:51:12.240>80 <01:51:12.560>persent 01:51:13.589 --> 01:51:13.599 align:start position:0% oor 80 persent 01:51:13.599 --> 01:51:18.629 align:start position:0% oor 80 persent van <01:51:13.839>die <01:51:14.079>impak <01:51:14.319>op <01:51:14.559>gesondheid <01:51:14.799>is <01:51:15.039>leefstyl 01:51:18.629 --> 01:51:18.639 align:start position:0% 01:51:18.639 --> 01:51:20.870 align:start position:0% hoe <01:51:18.985>leef <01:51:19.331>ons <01:51:19.677>langer <01:51:20.023>watter <01:51:20.369>raad <01:51:20.715>sal 01:51:20.870 --> 01:51:20.880 align:start position:0% hoe leef ons langer watter raad sal 01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:23.030 align:start position:0% hoe leef ons langer watter raad sal jy <01:51:21.173>aan <01:51:21.466>algemene <01:51:21.759>mense <01:51:22.052>gee <01:51:22.345>wat <01:51:22.638>wat 01:51:23.030 --> 01:51:23.040 align:start position:0% jy aan algemene mense gee wat wat 01:51:23.040 --> 01:51:24.550 align:start position:0% jy aan algemene mense gee wat wat ruimte 01:51:24.550 --> 01:51:24.560 align:start position:0% ruimte 01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:26.390 align:start position:0% ruimte van <01:51:24.800>idees 01:51:26.390 --> 01:51:26.400 align:start position:0% van idees 01:51:26.400 --> 01:51:29.669 align:start position:0% van idees lei <01:51:26.976>tot <01:51:27.552>'n <01:51:28.128>langer <01:51:28.704>en <01:51:29.280>hoër 01:51:29.669 --> 01:51:29.679 align:start position:0% lei tot 'n langer en hoër 01:51:29.679 --> 01:51:31.910 align:start position:0% lei tot 'n langer en hoër kwaliteit <01:51:29.999>lewens <01:51:30.319>reg <01:51:30.639>dit <01:51:30.959>is <01:51:31.279>'n <01:51:31.599>baie 01:51:31.910 --> 01:51:31.920 align:start position:0% kwaliteit lewens reg dit is 'n baie 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:34.470 align:start position:0% kwaliteit lewens reg dit is 'n baie eenvoudige <01:51:32.440>vraag <01:51:32.960>om 01:51:34.470 --> 01:51:34.480 align:start position:0% eenvoudige vraag om 01:51:34.480 --> 01:51:35.830 align:start position:0% eenvoudige vraag om oefening 01:51:35.830 --> 01:51:35.840 align:start position:0% oefening 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:37.750 align:start position:0% oefening vir <01:51:36.080>ten <01:51:36.320>minste <01:51:36.560>'n <01:51:36.800>halfuur 01:51:37.750 --> 01:51:37.760 align:start position:0% vir ten minste 'n halfuur 01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:40.950 align:start position:0% vir ten minste 'n halfuur ten <01:51:37.984>minste <01:51:38.208>vyf <01:51:38.432>keer <01:51:38.656>'n <01:51:38.880>week 01:51:40.950 --> 01:51:40.960 align:start position:0% ten minste vyf keer 'n week 01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:42.229 align:start position:0% ten minste vyf keer 'n week nommer <01:51:41.066>een <01:51:41.172>te <01:51:41.278>beantwoord 01:51:42.229 --> 01:51:42.239 align:start position:0% nommer een te beantwoord 01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:45.430 align:start position:0% nommer een te beantwoord nommer <01:51:42.539>twee <01:51:42.839>moenie <01:51:43.139>rook <01:51:43.439>nie 01:51:45.430 --> 01:51:45.440 align:start position:0% nommer twee moenie rook nie 01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:47.350 align:start position:0% nommer twee moenie rook nie nommer <01:51:45.759>drie <01:51:46.078>handhaaf <01:51:46.397>'n <01:51:46.716>redelike 01:51:47.350 --> 01:51:47.360 align:start position:0% nommer drie handhaaf 'n redelike 01:51:47.360 --> 01:51:50.229 align:start position:0% nommer drie handhaaf 'n redelike gesonde <01:51:47.980>liggaamsgewig <01:51:48.600>sommige <01:51:49.220>mense <01:51:49.840>redeneer 01:51:50.229 --> 01:51:50.239 align:start position:0% gesonde liggaamsgewig sommige mense redeneer 01:51:50.239 --> 01:51:51.910 align:start position:0% gesonde liggaamsgewig sommige mense redeneer dat 01:51:51.910 --> 01:51:51.920 align:start position:0% dat 01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:54.790 align:start position:0% dat dit <01:51:52.094>gesond <01:51:52.268>is <01:51:52.442>om <01:51:52.616>laer <01:51:52.790>as <01:51:52.964>'n <01:51:53.138>bmi <01:51:53.312>van <01:51:53.486>25 <01:51:53.660>te <01:51:53.834>wees, 01:51:54.790 --> 01:51:54.800 align:start position:0% dit gesond is om laer as 'n bmi van 25 te wees, 01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:57.589 align:start position:0% dit gesond is om laer as 'n bmi van 25 te wees, ek <01:51:55.050>dink <01:51:55.300>dit <01:51:55.550>kan <01:51:55.800>waar <01:51:56.050>wees, <01:51:56.300>maar <01:51:56.550>ek <01:51:56.800>dink 01:51:57.589 --> 01:51:57.599 align:start position:0% ek dink dit kan waar wees, maar ek dink 01:51:57.599 --> 01:52:01.109 align:start position:0% ek dink dit kan waar wees, maar ek dink om <01:51:57.999>bo <01:51:58.399>30 <01:51:58.799>te <01:51:59.199>wees <01:51:59.599>is <01:51:59.999>ongesond <01:52:00.399>en <01:52:00.799>dit 01:52:01.109 --> 01:52:01.119 align:start position:0% om bo 30 te wees is ongesond en dit 01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:04.470 align:start position:0% om bo 30 te wees is ongesond en dit behoort <01:52:01.496>nou <01:52:01.873>te <01:52:02.250>wees, <01:52:02.627>dit <01:52:03.004>is <01:52:03.381>grootliks <01:52:03.758>uh 01:52:04.470 --> 01:52:04.480 align:start position:0% behoort nou te wees, dit is grootliks uh 01:52:04.480 --> 01:52:07.589 align:start position:0% behoort nou te wees, dit is grootliks uh grootliks <01:52:04.980>beïnvloed <01:52:05.480>deur <01:52:05.980>sosio-ekonomiese <01:52:06.480>status 01:52:07.589 --> 01:52:07.599 align:start position:0% grootliks beïnvloed deur sosio-ekonomiese status 01:52:07.599 --> 01:52:09.589 align:start position:0% grootliks beïnvloed deur sosio-ekonomiese status en <01:52:07.816>ons <01:52:08.033>wil <01:52:08.250>nie <01:52:08.467>die <01:52:08.684>slagoffers <01:52:08.901>hier <01:52:09.118>blameer 01:52:09.589 --> 01:52:09.599 align:start position:0% en ons wil nie die slagoffers hier blameer 01:52:09.599 --> 01:52:11.910 align:start position:0% en ons wil nie die slagoffers hier blameer nie, <01:52:09.859>so <01:52:10.119>ons <01:52:10.379>moet <01:52:10.639>verstaan <01:52:10.899>dat <01:52:11.159>wanneer <01:52:11.419>ons <01:52:11.679>o 01:52:11.910 --> 01:52:11.920 align:start position:0% nie, so ons moet verstaan dat wanneer ons o 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:14.149 align:start position:0% nie, so ons moet verstaan dat wanneer ons o r <01:52:12.133>al <01:52:12.346>hierdie <01:52:12.559>dinge <01:52:12.772>praat, <01:52:12.985>nie <01:52:13.198>s 01:52:14.149 --> 01:52:14.159 align:start position:0% r al hierdie dinge praat, nie s 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:15.669 align:start position:0% r al hierdie dinge praat, nie s garette <01:52:14.399>nie, <01:52:14.639>maar <01:52:14.879>oefen 01:52:15.669 --> 01:52:15.679 align:start position:0% garette nie, maar oefen 01:52:15.679 --> 01:52:17.030 align:start position:0% garette nie, maar oefen ng in 'n 01:52:17.030 --> 01:52:17.040 align:start position:0% ng in 'n 01:52:17.040 --> 01:52:19.750 align:start position:0% ng in 'n goeie <01:52:17.380>dieet <01:52:17.720>en <01:52:18.060>die <01:52:18.400>handh 01:52:19.750 --> 01:52:19.760 align:start position:0% goeie dieet en die handh 01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:23.030 align:start position:0% goeie dieet en die handh wing <01:52:19.946>van <01:52:20.132>'n <01:52:20.318>gesonde <01:52:20.504>liggaamsgewig, <01:52:20.690>ons <01:52:20.876>m 01:52:23.030 --> 01:52:23.040 align:start position:0% wing van 'n gesonde liggaamsgewig, ons m 01:52:23.040 --> 01:52:27.030 align:start position:0% wing van 'n gesonde liggaamsgewig, ons m et <01:52:23.453>insluit <01:52:23.866>by <01:52:24.279>doen <01:52:24.692>daardie <01:52:25.105>dinge <01:52:25.518>wat 01:52:27.030 --> 01:52:27.040 align:start position:0% et insluit by doen daardie dinge wat 01:52:27.040 --> 01:52:28.470 align:start position:0% et insluit by doen daardie dinge wat die 01:52:28.470 --> 01:52:28.480 align:start position:0% die 01:52:28.480 --> 01:52:30.550 align:start position:0% die struikelblokke <01:52:28.899>vir <01:52:29.318>mense <01:52:29.737>van <01:52:30.156>laer 01:52:30.550 --> 01:52:30.560 align:start position:0% struikelblokke vir mense van laer 01:52:30.560 --> 01:52:33.270 align:start position:0% struikelblokke vir mense van laer sosio-ekonomiese <01:52:31.800>status <01:52:33.040>om 01:52:33.270 --> 01:52:33.280 align:start position:0% sosio-ekonomiese status om 01:52:33.280 --> 01:52:35.990 align:start position:0% sosio-ekonomiese status om daardie <01:52:33.508>veranderinge <01:52:33.736>aan <01:52:33.964>te <01:52:34.192>bring, <01:52:34.420>ons <01:52:34.648>moet <01:52:34.876>verstaan 01:52:35.990 --> 01:52:36.000 align:start position:0% daardie veranderinge aan te bring, ons moet verstaan 01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:36.790 align:start position:0% daardie veranderinge aan te bring, ons moet verstaan rso 01:52:36.790 --> 01:52:36.800 align:start position:0% rso 01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:38.550 align:start position:0% rso nlike <01:52:37.306>verantwoordelikheid <01:52:37.812>vir <01:52:38.318>sommi 01:52:38.550 --> 01:52:38.560 align:start position:0% nlike verantwoordelikheid vir sommi 01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:39.750 align:start position:0% nlike verantwoordelikheid vir sommi e <01:52:38.640>hiervan <01:52:38.720>verantwoordelik <01:52:38.800>is, <01:52:38.880>maar 01:52:39.750 --> 01:52:39.760 align:start position:0% e hiervan verantwoordelik is, maar 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:42.629 align:start position:0% e hiervan verantwoordelik is, maar ok <01:52:40.173>sosiale <01:52:40.586>omstandighede <01:52:40.999>daarvan <01:52:41.412>verantwoordelik <01:52:41.825>is <01:52:42.238>en 01:52:42.629 --> 01:52:42.639 align:start position:0% ok sosiale omstandighede daarvan verantwoordelik is en 01:52:42.639 --> 01:52:45.109 align:start position:0% ok sosiale omstandighede daarvan verantwoordelik is en terug 01:52:45.109 --> 01:52:45.119 align:start position:0% terug 01:52:45.119 --> 01:52:47.270 align:start position:0% terug na <01:52:45.503>jou <01:52:45.887>visbak-analogie <01:52:46.271>as <01:52:46.655>jy <01:52:47.039>swem 01:52:47.270 --> 01:52:47.280 align:start position:0% na jou visbak-analogie as jy swem 01:52:47.280 --> 01:52:48.310 align:start position:0% na jou visbak-analogie as jy swem 01:52:48.310 --> 01:52:48.320 align:start position:0% 01:52:48.320 --> 01:52:51.109 align:start position:0% in <01:52:48.640>'n <01:52:48.960>visbak <01:52:49.280>as <01:52:49.600>jy <01:52:49.920>in <01:52:50.240>'n <01:52:50.560>vistenk <01:52:50.880>woon 01:52:51.109 --> 01:52:51.119 align:start position:0% in 'n visbak as jy in 'n vistenk woon 01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:53.910 align:start position:0% in 'n visbak as jy in 'n vistenk woon wat <01:52:51.292>nie <01:52:51.465>behoorlik <01:52:51.638>onderhou <01:52:51.811>word <01:52:51.984>nie, <01:52:52.157>sal 01:52:53.910 --> 01:52:53.920 align:start position:0% wat nie behoorlik onderhou word nie, sal 01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:55.669 align:start position:0% wat nie behoorlik onderhou word nie, sal die <01:52:54.056>benadering <01:52:54.192>nie <01:52:54.328>wees <01:52:54.464>om <01:52:54.600>individuele <01:52:54.736>siek <01:52:54.872>visse <01:52:55.008>te <01:52:55.144>behandel <01:52:55.280>nie, 01:52:55.669 --> 01:52:55.679 align:start position:0% die benadering nie wees om individuele siek visse te behandel nie, 01:52:55.679 --> 01:52:59.350 align:start position:0% die benadering nie wees om individuele siek visse te behandel nie, dit <01:52:56.825>sal <01:52:57.971>wees <01:52:59.117>om 01:52:59.350 --> 01:52:59.360 align:start position:0% dit sal wees om 01:52:59.360 --> 01:53:00.629 align:start position:0% dit sal wees om jou 01:53:00.629 --> 01:53:00.639 align:start position:0% jou 01:53:00.639 --> 01:53:02.950 align:start position:0% jou vis <01:53:00.879>te <01:53:01.119>herstel <01:53:01.359>nk <01:53:01.599>om <01:53:01.839>die <01:53:02.079>bakterieë <01:53:02.319>daaruit <01:53:02.559>te <01:53:02.799>kry 01:53:02.950 --> 01:53:02.960 align:start position:0% vis te herstel nk om die bakterieë daaruit te kry 01:53:02.960 --> 01:53:03.669 align:start position:0% vis te herstel nk om die bakterieë daaruit te kry en 01:53:03.669 --> 01:53:03.679 align:start position:0% en 01:53:03.679 --> 01:53:06.390 align:start position:0% en watter <01:53:04.012>slegte <01:53:04.345>goed <01:53:04.678>ook <01:53:05.011>al <01:53:05.344>daarin <01:53:05.677>is 01:53:06.390 --> 01:53:06.400 align:start position:0% watter slegte goed ook al daarin is 01:53:06.400 --> 01:53:08.950 align:start position:0% watter slegte goed ook al daarin is en <01:53:06.719>jou <01:53:07.038>vistenk <01:53:07.357>gesonder <01:53:07.676>te <01:53:07.995>maak, <01:53:08.314>belê <01:53:08.633>ons 01:53:08.950 --> 01:53:08.960 align:start position:0% en jou vistenk gesonder te maak, belê ons 01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:10.149 align:start position:0% en jou vistenk gesonder te maak, belê ons 01:53:10.149 --> 01:53:10.159 align:start position:0% 01:53:10.159 --> 01:53:11.990 align:start position:0% baie <01:53:10.447>minder <01:53:10.735>as <01:53:11.023>die <01:53:11.311>ander <01:53:11.599>ryk 01:53:11.990 --> 01:53:12.000 align:start position:0% baie minder as die ander ryk 01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:13.990 align:start position:0% baie minder as die ander ryk lande <01:53:12.320>doen <01:53:12.640>ons <01:53:12.960>omgekeer <01:53:13.280>ons <01:53:13.600>het <01:53:13.920>die 01:53:13.990 --> 01:53:14.000 align:start position:0% lande doen ons omgekeer ons het die 01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.589 align:start position:0% lande doen ons omgekeer ons het die spieëlbeeld <01:53:14.560>in <01:53:15.120>die <01:53:15.680>besteding <01:53:16.240>aan <01:53:16.800>sosiale 01:53:17.589 --> 01:53:17.599 align:start position:0% spieëlbeeld in die besteding aan sosiale 01:53:17.599 --> 01:53:19.510 align:start position:0% spieëlbeeld in die besteding aan sosiale determinante <01:53:17.999>van <01:53:18.399>gesondheid <01:53:18.799>en <01:53:19.199>mediese 01:53:19.510 --> 01:53:19.520 align:start position:0% determinante van gesondheid en mediese 01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:21.589 align:start position:0% determinante van gesondheid en mediese determinante <01:53:19.839>van <01:53:20.158>gesondheid <01:53:20.477>ons <01:53:20.796>het <01:53:21.115>presies 01:53:21.589 --> 01:53:21.599 align:start position:0% determinante van gesondheid ons het presies 01:53:21.599 --> 01:53:25.030 align:start position:0% determinante van gesondheid ons het presies die <01:53:22.095>verkeerde <01:53:22.591>volgorde <01:53:23.087>en <01:53:23.583>nie <01:53:24.079>net 01:53:25.030 --> 01:53:25.040 align:start position:0% die verkeerde volgorde en nie net 01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:26.870 align:start position:0% die verkeerde volgorde en nie net verstik <01:53:25.359>dit <01:53:25.678>sosiale <01:53:25.997>determinante <01:53:26.316>van <01:53:26.635>gesondheid 01:53:26.870 --> 01:53:26.880 align:start position:0% verstik dit sosiale determinante van gesondheid 01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:28.870 align:start position:0% verstik dit sosiale determinante van gesondheid wat <01:53:27.146>baie <01:53:27.412>belangrik <01:53:27.678>is <01:53:27.944>nie, <01:53:28.210>maar <01:53:28.476>eintlik 01:53:28.870 --> 01:53:28.880 align:start position:0% wat baie belangrik is nie, maar eintlik 01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:30.629 align:start position:0% wat baie belangrik is nie, maar eintlik net <01:53:29.120>die <01:53:29.360>verhouding 01:53:30.629 --> 01:53:30.639 align:start position:0% net die verhouding 01:53:30.639 --> 01:53:33.030 align:start position:0% net die verhouding selfs <01:53:30.879>al <01:53:31.119>bestee <01:53:31.359>jy 01:53:33.030 --> 01:53:33.040 align:start position:0% selfs al bestee jy 01:53:33.040 --> 01:53:34.950 align:start position:0% selfs al bestee jy as <01:53:33.280>ons <01:53:33.520>die <01:53:33.760>sosiale 01:53:34.950 --> 01:53:34.960 align:start position:0% as ons die sosiale 01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:37.030 align:start position:0% as ons die sosiale besteding <01:53:35.311>verhoog <01:53:35.662>en <01:53:36.013>die <01:53:36.364>ons <01:53:36.715>mediese 01:53:37.030 --> 01:53:37.040 align:start position:0% besteding verhoog en die ons mediese 01:53:37.040 --> 01:53:39.589 align:start position:0% besteding verhoog en die ons mediese besteding <01:53:37.426>in <01:53:37.812>verhouding <01:53:38.198>verhoog. <01:53:38.584>die <01:53:38.970>verhouding <01:53:39.356>van 01:53:39.589 --> 01:53:39.599 align:start position:0% besteding in verhouding verhoog. die verhouding van 01:53:39.599 --> 01:53:41.189 align:start position:0% besteding in verhouding verhoog. die verhouding van maatskaplike <01:53:39.899>besteding <01:53:40.199>tot <01:53:40.499>mediese <01:53:40.799>besteding 01:53:41.189 --> 01:53:41.199 align:start position:0% maatskaplike besteding tot mediese besteding 01:53:41.199 --> 01:53:42.870 align:start position:0% maatskaplike besteding tot mediese besteding dit <01:53:41.332>is <01:53:41.465>die <01:53:41.598>probleem 01:53:42.870 --> 01:53:42.880 align:start position:0% dit is die probleem 01:53:42.880 --> 01:53:45.189 align:start position:0% dit is die probleem so <01:53:43.130>en <01:53:43.380>hoekom <01:53:43.630>doen <01:53:43.880>ons <01:53:44.130>dit <01:53:44.380>goed <01:53:44.630>die <01:53:44.880>antwoord 01:53:45.189 --> 01:53:45.199 align:start position:0% so en hoekom doen ons dit goed die antwoord 01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:47.589 align:start position:0% so en hoekom doen ons dit goed die antwoord is <01:53:45.469>heeltemal <01:53:45.739>voor <01:53:46.009>die <01:53:46.279>hand <01:53:46.549>liggend <01:53:46.819>dat <01:53:47.089>die <01:53:47.359>manier 01:53:47.589 --> 01:53:47.599 align:start position:0% is heeltemal voor die hand liggend dat die manier 01:53:47.599 --> 01:53:50.629 align:start position:0% is heeltemal voor die hand liggend dat die manier om <01:53:48.143>geld <01:53:48.687>van <01:53:49.231>werkende <01:53:49.775>Amerikaners <01:53:50.319>na 01:53:50.629 --> 01:53:50.639 align:start position:0% om geld van werkende Amerikaners na 01:53:50.639 --> 01:53:51.830 align:start position:0% om geld van werkende Amerikaners na beleggers 01:53:51.830 --> 01:53:51.840 align:start position:0% beleggers 01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:54.550 align:start position:0% beleggers oor <01:53:52.011>te 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<01:54:02.800>want 01:54:03.669 --> 01:54:03.679 align:start position:0% ek wil dit graag bespreek, want 01:54:03.679 --> 01:54:06.310 align:start position:0% ek wil dit graag bespreek, want die <01:54:04.079>mark <01:54:04.479>gaan <01:54:04.879>ons <01:54:05.279>nie 01:54:06.310 --> 01:54:06.320 align:start position:0% die mark gaan ons nie 01:54:06.320 --> 01:54:08.629 align:start position:0% die mark gaan ons nie tot <01:54:06.570>'n <01:54:06.820>redelike <01:54:07.070>toewysing <01:54:07.320>bring <01:54:07.570>vir <01:54:07.820>al <01:54:08.070>die <01:54:08.320>ander 01:54:08.629 --> 01:54:08.639 align:start position:0% tot 'n redelike toewysing bring vir al die ander 01:54:08.639 --> 01:54:10.310 align:start position:0% tot 'n redelike toewysing bring vir al die ander ryk <01:54:08.927>lande <01:54:09.215>nie. <01:54:09.503>by <01:54:09.791>is <01:54:10.079>soveel 01:54:10.310 --> 01:54:10.320 align:start position:0% ryk lande nie. by is soveel 01:54:10.320 --> 01:54:12.310 align:start position:0% ryk lande nie. by is soveel gesonder <01:54:10.626>as <01:54:10.932>wat <01:54:11.238>ons <01:54:11.544>is <01:54:11.850>en <01:54:12.156>bestee 01:54:12.310 --> 01:54:12.320 align:start position:0% gesonder as wat ons is en bestee 01:54:12.320 --> 01:54:13.990 align:start position:0% gesonder as wat ons is en bestee soveel <01:54:12.495>minder <01:54:12.670>as <01:54:12.845>wat <01:54:13.020>ons <01:54:13.195>is, 01:54:13.990 --> 01:54:14.000 align:start position:0% soveel minder as wat ons is, 01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.310 align:start position:0% soveel minder as wat ons is, het <01:54:14.384>een <01:54:14.768>of <01:54:15.152>ander <01:54:15.536>vorm <01:54:15.920>van 01:54:16.310 --> 01:54:16.320 align:start position:0% het een of ander vorm van 01:54:16.320 --> 01:54:18.629 align:start position:0% het een of ander vorm van regeringsintervensie <01:54:16.752>in <01:54:17.184>die <01:54:17.616>kwaliteit <01:54:18.048>van <01:54:18.480>die 01:54:18.629 --> 01:54:18.639 align:start position:0% regeringsintervensie in die kwaliteit van die 01:54:18.639 --> 01:54:20.709 align:start position:0% regeringsintervensie in die kwaliteit van die gesondheidsdata <01:54:19.023>wat <01:54:19.407>beskikbaar <01:54:19.791>is <01:54:20.175>in <01:54:20.559>die 01:54:20.709 --> 01:54:20.719 align:start position:0% gesondheidsdata wat beskikbaar is in die 01:54:20.719 --> 01:54:24.229 align:start position:0% gesondheidsdata wat beskikbaar is in die begroting <01:54:21.119>van <01:54:21.519>gesondheid <01:54:21.919>en <01:54:22.319>sosiale 01:54:24.229 --> 01:54:24.239 align:start position:0% begroting van gesondheid en sosiale 01:54:24.239 --> 01:54:25.830 align:start position:0% begroting van gesondheid en sosiale faktore 01:54:25.830 --> 01:54:25.840 align:start position:0% faktore 01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:27.910 align:start position:0% faktore en <01:54:26.035>ons <01:54:26.230>is <01:54:26.425>nie <01:54:26.620>vriendelik <01:54:26.815>nie 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align:start position:0% verskriklike mislukking dit is 'n verskriklike mislukking 01:54:36.560 --> 01:54:38.229 align:start position:0% verskriklike mislukking dit is 'n verskriklike mislukking so <01:54:36.760>een <01:54:36.960>argument 01:54:38.229 --> 01:54:38.239 align:start position:0% so een argument 01:54:38.239 --> 01:54:40.950 align:start position:0% so een argument teen <01:54:38.735>die <01:54:39.231>regering <01:54:39.727>of <01:54:40.223>jammer <01:54:40.719>'n 01:54:40.950 --> 01:54:40.960 align:start position:0% teen die regering of jammer 'n 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:42.790 align:start position:0% teen die regering of jammer 'n alternatief <01:54:41.386>vir <01:54:41.812>die <01:54:42.238>regeringsingryping 01:54:42.790 --> 01:54:42.800 align:start position:0% alternatief vir die regeringsingryping 01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:44.629 align:start position:0% alternatief vir die regeringsingryping 01:54:44.629 --> 01:54:44.639 align:start position:0% 01:54:44.639 --> 01:54:47.189 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01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:58.149 align:start position:0% jy <01:54:56.440>ken <01:54:56.960>kommunikeerders <01:54:57.480>soos <01:54:58.000>podcasts 01:54:58.149 --> 01:54:58.159 align:start position:0% jy ken kommunikeerders soos podcasts 01:54:58.159 --> 01:54:59.990 align:start position:0% jy ken kommunikeerders soos podcasts ensovoorts, <01:54:58.495>maar <01:54:58.831>jy <01:54:59.167>weet <01:54:59.503>dat <01:54:59.839>ander 01:54:59.990 --> 01:55:00.000 align:start position:0% ensovoorts, maar jy weet dat ander 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:01.350 align:start position:0% ensovoorts, maar jy weet dat ander 01:55:01.350 --> 01:55:01.360 align:start position:0% 01:55:01.360 --> 01:55:03.430 align:start position:0% kommunikasiekanale <01:55:01.564>die <01:55:01.768>manier <01:55:01.972>sal <01:55:02.176>wees <01:55:02.380>om <01:55:02.584>groot <01:55:02.788>farmaseutiese <01:55:02.992>te <01:55:03.196>beveg 01:55:03.430 --> 01:55:03.440 align:start position:0% kommunikasiekanale die manier 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position:0% dit gaan letterlik die 01:56:31.280 --> 01:56:34.790 align:start position:0% dit gaan letterlik die aantal <01:56:31.840>nuwe <01:56:32.400>middels <01:56:32.960>wat 01:56:34.790 --> 01:56:34.800 align:start position:0% aantal nuwe middels wat 01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:36.149 align:start position:0% aantal nuwe middels wat voordelig 01:56:36.149 --> 01:56:36.159 align:start position:0% voordelig 01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:38.629 align:start position:0% voordelig uniek <01:56:36.479>voordelig <01:56:36.799>is <01:56:37.119>verminder <01:56:37.439>met <01:56:37.759>ongeveer <01:56:38.079>een <01:56:38.399>nuwe 01:56:38.629 --> 01:56:38.639 align:start position:0% uniek voordelig is verminder met ongeveer een nuwe 01:56:38.639 --> 01:56:42.790 align:start position:0% uniek voordelig is verminder met ongeveer een nuwe middel <01:56:39.039>of <01:56:39.439>twee <01:56:39.839>nuwe <01:56:40.239>middels <01:56:40.639>oor <01:56:41.039>30 <01:56:41.439>jaar 01:56:42.790 --> 01:56:42.800 align:start position:0% middel of twee nuwe middels oor 30 jaar 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:43.830 align:start position:0% middel of twee nuwe middels oor 30 jaar dit 01:56:43.830 --> 01:56:43.840 align:start position:0% dit 01:56:43.840 --> 01:56:47.430 align:start position:0% dit dit <01:56:44.450>sal <01:56:45.060>feitlik <01:56:45.670>'n <01:56:46.280>onontsyferbare 01:56:47.430 --> 01:56:47.440 align:start position:0% dit sal feitlik 'n onontsyferbare 01:56:47.440 --> 01:56:51.109 align:start position:0% dit sal feitlik 'n onontsyferbare impak <01:56:48.060>hê <01:56:48.680>en <01:56:49.300>tog <01:56:49.920>praat 01:56:51.109 --> 01:56:51.119 align:start position:0% impak hê en tog praat 01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:52.070 align:start position:0% impak hê en tog praat farma oor 01:56:52.070 --> 01:56:52.080 align:start position:0% farma oor 01:56:52.080 --> 01:56:55.030 align:start position:0% farma oor die <01:56:52.457>impak <01:56:52.834>op <01:56:53.211>innovasie <01:56:53.588>en 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01:57:04.719 --> 01:57:09.430 align:start position:0% vertraag en dit gaan <01:57:05.012>die <01:57:05.305>kwaliteit <01:57:05.598>van <01:57:05.891>jou <01:57:06.184>lewe <01:57:06.477>beïnvloed 01:57:09.430 --> 01:57:09.440 align:start position:0% 01:57:09.440 --> 01:57:12.149 align:start position:0% laat <01:57:09.733>ek <01:57:10.026>jou <01:57:10.319>vra 01:57:12.149 --> 01:57:12.159 align:start position:0% laat ek jou vra 01:57:12.159 --> 01:57:14.709 align:start position:0% laat ek jou vra oor <01:57:12.719>um 01:57:14.709 --> 01:57:14.719 align:start position:0% oor um 01:57:14.719 --> 01:57:17.030 align:start position:0% oor um oor <01:57:15.040>medikasie 01:57:17.030 --> 01:57:17.040 align:start position:0% oor medikasie 01:57:17.040 --> 01:57:18.149 align:start position:0% oor medikasie waaroor <01:57:17.360>ons 01:57:18.149 --> 01:57:18.159 align:start position:0% waaroor ons 01:57:18.159 --> 01:57:19.830 align:start position:0% waaroor ons gepraat <01:57:18.447>het <01:57:18.735>van <01:57:19.023>verskillende <01:57:19.311>hoeke <01:57:19.599>maar 01:57:19.830 --> 01:57:19.840 align:start position:0% gepraat het van verskillende hoeke maar 01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:20.790 align:start position:0% gepraat het van verskillende hoeke maar een 01:57:20.790 --> 01:57:20.800 align:start position:0% een 01:57:20.800 --> 01:57:23.589 align:start position:0% een moeilike <01:57:21.119>vraag <01:57:21.438>vir <01:57:21.757>my <01:57:22.076>ek <01:57:22.395>sal <01:57:22.714>net 01:57:23.589 --> 01:57:23.599 align:start position:0% moeilike vraag vir my ek sal net 01:57:23.599 --> 01:57:25.430 align:start position:0% moeilike vraag vir my ek sal net een <01:57:23.855>van <01:57:24.111>die <01:57:24.367>moeilike <01:57:24.623>onderwerpe <01:57:24.879>kies 01:57:25.430 --> 01:57:25.440 align:start position:0% een van die moeilike onderwerpe kies 01:57:25.440 --> 01:57:26.870 align:start position:0% een van die moeilike onderwerpe kies depressie 01:57:26.870 --> 01:57:26.880 align:start position:0% depressie 01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:30.390 align:start position:0% depressie so <01:57:27.339>depressie <01:57:27.798>is <01:57:28.257>'n <01:57:28.716>ernstige 01:57:30.390 --> 01:57:30.400 align:start position:0% so depressie is 'n ernstige 01:57:30.400 --> 01:57:32.870 align:start position:0% so depressie is 'n ernstige pynlike 01:57:32.870 --> 01:57:32.880 align:start position:0% pynlike 01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:34.870 align:start position:0% pynlike toestand <01:57:33.146>wat <01:57:33.412>daartoe <01:57:33.678>lei <01:57:33.944>dat <01:57:34.210>baie <01:57:34.476>mense 01:57:34.870 --> 01:57:34.880 align:start position:0% toestand wat daartoe lei dat baie mense 01:57:34.880 --> 01:57:37.109 align:start position:0% toestand wat daartoe lei dat baie mense in <01:57:35.093>die <01:57:35.306>wêreld <01:57:35.519>ly 01:57:37.109 --> 01:57:37.119 align:start position:0% in die wêreld ly 01:57:37.119 --> 01:57:39.750 align:start position:0% in die wêreld ly en <01:57:37.399>tog <01:57:37.679>is <01:57:37.959>dit <01:57:38.239>waarskynlik <01:57:38.519>dat <01:57:38.799>hulle <01:57:39.079>te <01:57:39.359>veel 01:57:39.750 --> 01:57:39.760 align:start position:0% en tog is dit waarskynlik dat hulle te veel 01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:42.229 align:start position:0% en tog is dit waarskynlik dat hulle te veel antidepressante <01:57:40.080>voorgeskryf <01:57:40.400>het 01:57:42.229 --> 01:57:42.239 align:start position:0% antidepressante voorgeskryf het 01:57:42.239 --> 01:57:43.830 align:start position:0% antidepressante voorgeskryf het so <01:57:42.426>as <01:57:42.613>'n <01:57:42.800>dokter 01:57:43.830 --> 01:57:43.840 align:start position:0% so as 'n dokter 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:46.870 align:start position:0% so as 'n dokter as <01:57:44.224>'n <01:57:44.608>pasiënt <01:57:44.992>as <01:57:45.376>'n <01:57:45.760>gesondheidsorgstelsel 01:57:46.870 --> 01:57:46.880 align:start position:0% as 'n pasiënt as 'n gesondheidsorgstelsel 01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:49.189 align:start position:0% as 'n pasiënt as 'n gesondheidsorgstelsel as <01:57:47.177>'n <01:57:47.474>samelewing, <01:57:47.771>wat <01:57:48.068>doen <01:57:48.365>ons <01:57:48.662>met <01:57:48.959>die 01:57:49.189 --> 01:57:49.199 align:start position:0% as 'n samelewing, wat doen ons met die 01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:50.310 align:start position:0% as 'n samelewing, wat doen ons met die feit 01:57:50.310 --> 01:57:50.320 align:start position:0% feit 01:57:50.320 --> 01:57:51.109 align:start position:0% feit dat 01:57:51.109 --> 01:57:51.119 align:start position:0% dat 01:57:51.119 --> 01:57:52.870 align:start position:0% dat mense <01:57:51.599>ly 01:57:52.870 --> 01:57:52.880 align:start position:0% mense ly 01:57:52.880 --> 01:57:55.350 align:start position:0% mense ly daar <01:57:53.140>is <01:57:53.400>baie <01:57:53.660>mense <01:57:53.920>wat 01:57:55.350 --> 01:57:55.360 align:start position:0% daar is baie mense wat 01:57:55.360 --> 01:57:57.430 align:start position:0% daar is baie mense wat aan <01:57:55.479>depressie <01:57:55.598>ly 01:57:57.430 --> 01:57:57.440 align:start position:0% aan depressie ly 01:57:57.440 --> 01:57:59.350 align:start position:0% aan depressie ly en <01:57:57.617>die <01:57:57.794>Daar <01:57:57.971>is <01:57:58.148>ook <01:57:58.325>mense <01:57:58.502>wat <01:57:58.679>ly <01:57:58.856>aan <01:57:59.033>die 01:57:59.350 --> 01:57:59.360 align:start position:0% en die Daar is ook mense wat ly aan die 01:57:59.360 --> 01:58:01.830 align:start position:0% en die Daar is ook mense wat ly aan die oormatige <01:57:59.999>voorskryf <01:58:00.638>van 01:58:01.830 --> 01:58:01.840 align:start position:0% oormatige voorskryf van 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:02.790 align:start position:0% oormatige voorskryf van antidepressante, 01:58:02.790 --> 01:58:02.800 align:start position:0% antidepressante, 01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:05.430 align:start position:0% antidepressante, so <01:58:03.089>'n <01:58:03.378>artikel <01:58:03.667>in <01:58:03.956>die <01:58:04.245>New <01:58:04.534>England <01:58:04.823>Journal <01:58:05.112>deur 01:58:05.430 --> 01:58:05.440 align:start position:0% so 'n artikel in die New England Journal deur 01:58:05.440 --> 01:58:06.870 align:start position:0% so 'n artikel in die New England Journal deur Eric <01:58:05.840>Turner 01:58:06.870 --> 01:58:06.880 align:start position:0% Eric Turner 01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:09.109 align:start position:0% Eric Turner het <01:58:07.199>getoon <01:58:07.518>dat <01:58:07.837>die <01:58:08.156>data 01:58:09.109 --> 01:58:09.119 align:start position:0% het getoon dat die data 01:58:09.119 --> 01:58:10.870 align:start position:0% het getoon dat die data as <01:58:09.423>jy <01:58:09.727>al <01:58:10.031>die <01:58:10.335>data <01:58:10.639>van 01:58:10.870 --> 01:58:10.880 align:start position:0% as jy al die data van 01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:12.229 align:start position:0% as jy al die data van antidepressante bymekaar sit 01:58:12.229 --> 01:58:12.239 align:start position:0% antidepressante bymekaar sit 01:58:12.239 --> 01:58:14.510 align:start position:0% antidepressante bymekaar sit , <01:58:12.479>vind <01:58:12.719>jy <01:58:12.959>uit <01:58:13.199>dat 01:58:14.510 --> 01:58:14.520 align:start position:0% , vind jy uit dat 01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:17.830 align:start position:0% , vind jy uit dat antidepressante <01:58:15.120>nie <01:58:15.720>effektief <01:58:16.320>is 01:58:17.830 --> 01:58:17.840 align:start position:0% antidepressante nie effektief is 01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:19.589 align:start position:0% antidepressante nie effektief is vir <01:58:18.068>mense <01:58:18.296>wat <01:58:18.524>depressief <01:58:18.752>is <01:58:18.980>nie, <01:58:19.208>maar <01:58:19.436>t 01:58:19.589 --> 01:58:19.599 align:start position:0% vir mense wat depressief is nie, maar t 01:58:19.599 --> 01:58:22.149 align:start position:0% vir mense wat depressief is nie, maar t het <01:58:19.839>'n <01:58:20.079>ernstige <01:58:20.319>depressie 01:58:22.149 --> 01:58:22.159 align:start position:0% het 'n ernstige depressie 01:58:22.159 --> 01:58:24.390 align:start position:0% het 'n ernstige depressie ernstige <01:58:22.439>depressie <01:58:22.719>is <01:58:22.999>'n <01:58:23.279>ernstige 01:58:24.390 --> 01:58:24.400 align:start position:0% ernstige depressie is 'n ernstige 01:58:24.400 --> 01:58:28.790 align:start position:0% ernstige depressie is 'n ernstige probleem <01:58:24.746>mense <01:58:25.092>kan <01:58:25.438>nie <01:58:25.784>normaal <01:58:26.130>funksioneer <01:58:26.476>nie 01:58:28.790 --> 01:58:28.800 align:start position:0% probleem mense kan nie normaal funksioneer nie 01:58:28.800 --> 01:58:30.950 align:start position:0% probleem mense kan nie normaal funksioneer nie hulle <01:58:29.167>sukkel <01:58:29.534>om <01:58:29.901>uit <01:58:30.268>te <01:58:30.635>kom 01:58:30.950 --> 01:58:30.960 align:start position:0% hulle sukkel om uit te kom 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:32.310 align:start position:0% hulle sukkel om uit te kom om <01:58:31.440>hul 01:58:32.310 --> 01:58:32.320 align:start position:0% om hul 01:58:32.320 --> 01:58:34.870 align:start position:0% om hul normale <01:58:32.544>sosiale <01:58:32.768>rolle <01:58:32.992>uit <01:58:33.216>te <01:58:33.440>voer 01:58:34.870 --> 01:58:34.880 align:start position:0% normale sosiale rolle uit te voer 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:35.669 align:start position:0% normale sosiale rolle uit te voer um 01:58:35.669 --> 01:58:35.679 align:start position:0% um 01:58:35.679 --> 01:58:38.550 align:start position:0% um maar <01:58:35.905>wat <01:58:36.131>gebeur <01:58:36.357>het <01:58:36.583>is <01:58:36.809>dat <01:58:37.035>die 01:58:38.550 --> 01:58:38.560 align:start position:0% maar wat gebeur het is dat die 01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:41.430 align:start position:0% maar wat gebeur het is dat die publisiteit <01:58:39.040>ek <01:58:39.520>bedoel <01:58:40.000>prozac <01:58:40.480>nation 01:58:41.430 --> 01:58:41.440 align:start position:0% publisiteit ek bedoel prozac nation 01:58:41.440 --> 01:58:42.950 align:start position:0% publisiteit ek bedoel prozac nation was <01:58:41.626>'n <01:58:41.812>goeie <01:58:41.998>voorbeeld 01:58:42.950 --> 01:58:42.960 align:start position:0% was 'n goeie voorbeeld 01:58:42.960 --> 01:58:43.750 align:start position:0% was 'n goeie voorbeeld 01:58:43.750 --> 01:58:43.760 align:start position:0% 01:58:43.760 --> 01:58:45.430 align:start position:0% van <01:58:44.119>die <01:58:44.478>argument <01:58:44.837>hoekom <01:58:45.196>moet 01:58:45.430 --> 01:58:45.440 align:start position:0% van die argument hoekom moet 01:58:45.440 --> 01:58:47.589 align:start position:0% van die argument hoekom moet mense <01:58:45.773>tevrede <01:58:46.106>wees <01:58:46.439>met <01:58:46.772>normale <01:58:47.105>geluk <01:58:47.438>wanneer 01:58:47.589 --> 01:58:47.599 align:start position:0% mense tevrede wees met normale geluk wanneer 01:58:47.599 --> 01:58:48.870 align:start position:0% mense tevrede wees met normale geluk wanneer hulle <01:58:47.919>beter <01:58:48.239>as <01:58:48.559>normale 01:58:48.870 --> 01:58:48.880 align:start position:0% hulle beter as normale 01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:50.790 align:start position:0% hulle beter as normale geluk <01:58:49.133>kan <01:58:49.386>hê <01:58:49.639>en <01:58:49.892>as <01:58:50.145>jy <01:58:50.398>nie 01:58:50.790 --> 01:58:50.800 align:start position:0% geluk kan hê en as jy nie 01:58:50.800 --> 01:58:52.390 align:start position:0% geluk kan hê en as jy nie normale <01:58:50.999>geluk <01:58:51.198>het 01:58:52.390 --> 01:58:52.400 align:start position:0% normale geluk het 01:58:52.400 --> 01:58:54.709 align:start position:0% normale geluk het nie, <01:58:52.586>moet <01:58:52.772>jy <01:58:52.958>'n <01:58:53.144>dwelm <01:58:53.330>goed <01:58:53.516>neem, 01:58:54.709 --> 01:58:54.719 align:start position:0% nie, moet jy 'n dwelm goed neem, 01:58:54.719 --> 01:58:55.750 align:start position:0% nie, moet jy 'n dwelm goed neem, want 01:58:55.750 --> 01:58:55.760 align:start position:0% want 01:58:55.760 --> 01:58:59.350 align:start position:0% want daardie <01:58:56.560>konsep <01:58:57.360>dat 01:58:59.350 --> 01:58:59.360 align:start position:0% daardie konsep dat 01:58:59.360 --> 01:59:02.070 align:start position:0% daardie konsep dat serotonienmetabolisme <01:59:00.213>die <01:59:01.066>hoofoorsaak <01:59:01.919>van 01:59:02.070 --> 01:59:02.080 align:start position:0% serotonienmetabolisme die hoofoorsaak van 01:59:02.080 --> 01:59:03.510 align:start position:0% serotonienmetabolisme die hoofoorsaak van depressie 01:59:03.510 --> 01:59:03.520 align:start position:0% depressie 01:59:03.520 --> 01:59:05.589 align:start position:0% depressie is, <01:59:03.733>is <01:59:03.946>regtig <01:59:04.159>'n <01:59:04.372>vernietigende <01:59:04.585>een <01:59:04.798>wat <01:59:05.011>ons <01:59:05.224>nie <01:59:05.437>ons 01:59:05.589 --> 01:59:05.599 align:start position:0% is, is regtig 'n vernietigende een wat ons nie ons 01:59:05.599 --> 01:59:07.910 align:start position:0% is, is regtig 'n vernietigende een wat ons nie ons het <01:59:05.852>nie <01:59:06.105>dwelms <01:59:06.358>wat <01:59:06.611>serotonienmetabolisme <01:59:06.864>verander <01:59:07.117>nie, 01:59:07.910 --> 01:59:07.920 align:start position:0% het nie dwelms wat serotonienmetabolisme verander nie, 01:59:07.920 --> 01:59:09.510 align:start position:0% het nie dwelms wat serotonienmetabolisme verander nie, maar <01:59:08.146>ons <01:59:08.372>weet <01:59:08.598>nie <01:59:08.824>of <01:59:09.050>dit <01:59:09.276>is 01:59:09.510 --> 01:59:09.520 align:start position:0% maar ons weet nie of dit is 01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:10.310 align:start position:0% maar ons weet nie of dit is hoekom 01:59:10.310 --> 01:59:10.320 align:start position:0% hoekom 01:59:10.320 --> 01:59:11.270 align:start position:0% hoekom 01:59:11.270 --> 01:59:11.280 align:start position:0% 01:59:11.280 --> 01:59:14.229 align:start position:0% antidepressante <01:59:11.533>op <01:59:11.786>majo <01:59:12.039>werk <01:59:12.292>nie <01:59:12.545>r <01:59:12.798>depressie 01:59:14.229 --> 01:59:14.239 align:start position:0% antidepressante op majo werk nie r depressie 01:59:14.239 --> 01:59:15.510 align:start position:0% antidepressante op majo werk nie r depressie en <01:59:14.463>hulle <01:59:14.687>werk <01:59:14.911>beslis <01:59:15.135>nie <01:59:15.359>op 01:59:15.510 --> 01:59:15.520 align:start position:0% en hulle werk beslis nie op 01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:17.030 align:start position:0% en hulle werk beslis nie op almal <01:59:15.733>met <01:59:15.946>ernstige <01:59:16.159>depressie <01:59:16.372>nie, <01:59:16.585>ek <01:59:16.798>vergeet 01:59:17.030 --> 01:59:17.040 align:start position:0% almal met ernstige depressie nie, ek vergeet 01:59:17.040 --> 01:59:18.870 align:start position:0% almal met ernstige depressie nie, ek vergeet wat <01:59:17.191>die <01:59:17.342>aantal <01:59:17.493>nodig <01:59:17.644>is <01:59:17.795>om <01:59:17.946>te <01:59:18.097>behandel, <01:59:18.248>is <01:59:18.399>ek 01:59:18.870 --> 01:59:18.880 align:start position:0% wat die aantal nodig is om te behandel, is ek 01:59:18.880 --> 01:59:20.709 align:start position:0% wat die aantal nodig is om te behandel, is ek dink <01:59:19.100>dit <01:59:19.320>is <01:59:19.540>ongeveer <01:59:19.760>vier 01:59:20.709 --> 01:59:20.719 align:start position:0% dink dit is ongeveer vier 01:59:20.719 --> 01:59:22.870 align:start position:0% dink dit is ongeveer vier een <01:59:21.039>uit <01:59:21.359>vier <01:59:21.679>mense <01:59:21.999>het <01:59:22.319>aansienlike 01:59:22.870 --> 01:59:22.880 align:start position:0% een uit vier mense het aansienlike 01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:25.189 align:start position:0% een uit vier mense het aansienlike verbetering, <01:59:23.280>maar <01:59:23.680>die <01:59:24.080>mense <01:59:24.480>sonder <01:59:24.880>ernstige 01:59:25.189 --> 01:59:25.199 align:start position:0% verbetering, maar die mense sonder ernstige 01:59:25.199 --> 01:59:26.950 align:start position:0% verbetering, maar die mense sonder ernstige depressie 01:59:26.950 --> 01:59:26.960 align:start position:0% depressie 01:59:26.960 --> 01:59:29.589 align:start position:0% depressie word <01:59:27.257>nie <01:59:27.554>beter <01:59:27.851>nie <01:59:28.148>en <01:59:28.445>die <01:59:28.742>oorgrote <01:59:29.039>meerderheid 01:59:29.589 --> 01:59:29.599 align:start position:0% word nie beter nie en die oorgrote meerderheid 01:59:29.599 --> 01:59:31.589 align:start position:0% word nie beter nie en die oorgrote meerderheid van <01:59:29.839>hierdie <01:59:30.079>middels <01:59:30.319>word <01:59:30.559>gebruik <01:59:30.799>vir <01:59:31.039>mense 01:59:31.589 --> 01:59:31.599 align:start position:0% van hierdie middels word gebruik vir mense 01:59:31.599 --> 01:59:33.589 align:start position:0% van hierdie middels word gebruik vir mense sonder <01:59:32.039>ernstige <01:59:32.479>depressie, 01:59:33.589 --> 01:59:33.599 align:start position:0% sonder ernstige depressie, 01:59:33.599 --> 01:59:36.470 align:start position:0% sonder ernstige depressie, so <01:59:33.879>wat <01:59:34.159>gebeur <01:59:34.439>het, <01:59:34.719>is <01:59:34.999>dat <01:59:35.279>die 01:59:36.470 --> 01:59:36.480 align:start position:0% so wat gebeur het, is dat die 01:59:36.480 --> 01:59:39.589 align:start position:0% so wat gebeur het, is dat die gevoelens <01:59:37.440>van <01:59:38.400>lewensbevrediging <01:59:39.360>van 01:59:39.589 --> 01:59:39.599 align:start position:0% gevoelens van lewensbevrediging van 01:59:39.599 --> 01:59:41.990 align:start position:0% gevoelens van lewensbevrediging van geluk <01:59:39.999>en <01:59:40.399>nie <01:59:40.799>hartseer 01:59:41.990 --> 01:59:43.109 align:start position:0% geluk en nie hartseer 01:59:43.109 --> 01:59:43.119 align:start position:0% 01:59:43.119 --> 01:59:45.750 align:start position:0% gemedieer 01:59:45.750 --> 01:59:47.750 align:start position:0% gemedieer 01:59:47.750 --> 01:59:49.109 align:start position:0% 01:59:49.109 --> 01:59:49.119 align:start position:0% 01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:50.950 align:start position:0% is <01:59:49.339>nie. <01:59:49.559>aandag <01:59:49.779>gegee <01:59:49.999>word, 01:59:50.950 --> 01:59:50.960 align:start position:0% is nie. aandag gegee word, 01:59:50.960 --> 01:59:53.830 align:start position:0% is nie. aandag gegee word, maar <01:59:51.440>die <01:59:51.920>bewyse <01:59:52.400>toon <01:59:52.880>dat <01:59:53.360>om 01:59:53.830 --> 01:59:53.840 align:start position:0% maar die bewyse toon dat om 01:59:53.840 --> 01:59:56.229 align:start position:0% maar die bewyse toon dat om na <01:59:53.975>hulle <01:59:54.110>om <01:59:54.245>te <01:59:54.380>sien <01:59:54.515>deur <01:59:54.650>vir <01:59:54.785>iemand <01:59:54.920>'n <01:59:55.055>medisyne <01:59:55.190>te 01:59:56.229 --> 01:59:56.239 align:start position:0% na hulle om te sien deur vir iemand 'n medisyne te 01:59:56.239 --> 01:59:58.229 align:start position:0% na hulle om te sien deur vir iemand 'n medisyne te gee, <01:59:56.459>nie <01:59:56.679>help <01:59:56.899>nie, <01:59:57.119>behalwe <01:59:57.339>dat <01:59:57.559>hulle <01:59:57.779>voel <01:59:57.999>dat 01:59:58.229 --> 01:59:58.239 align:start position:0% gee, nie help nie, behalwe dat hulle voel dat 01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:00.070 align:start position:0% gee, nie help nie, behalwe dat hulle voel dat iemand <01:59:58.527>vir <01:59:58.815>hulle <01:59:59.103>omgee <01:59:59.391>en <01:59:59.679>glo 02:00:00.070 --> 02:00:00.080 align:start position:0% iemand vir hulle omgee en glo 02:00:00.080 --> 02:00:02.390 align:start position:0% iemand vir hulle omgee en glo dat <02:00:00.495>hulle <02:00:00.910>ly, <02:00:01.325>maar <02:00:01.740>daar <02:00:02.155>is 02:00:02.390 --> 02:00:02.400 align:start position:0% dat hulle ly, maar daar is 02:00:02.400 --> 02:00:03.990 align:start position:0% dat hulle ly, maar daar is probleme <02:00:02.639>in <02:00:02.878>die <02:00:03.117>lewe 02:00:03.990 --> 02:00:04.000 align:start position:0% probleme in die lewe 02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:06.629 align:start position:0% probleme in die lewe wat <02:00:04.600>baie <02:00:05.200>hiervan <02:00:05.800>aanleiding <02:00:06.400>gee. 02:00:06.629 --> 02:00:06.639 align:start position:0% wat baie hiervan aanleiding gee. 02:00:06.639 --> 02:00:08.470 align:start position:0% wat baie hiervan aanleiding gee. simptomatologie <02:00:07.679>van 02:00:08.470 --> 02:00:08.480 align:start position:0% simptomatologie van 02:00:08.480 --> 02:00:10.629 align:start position:0% simptomatologie van minder <02:00:08.800>as <02:00:09.120>ernstige <02:00:09.440>depressie <02:00:09.760>en <02:00:10.080>kom <02:00:10.400>ons 02:00:10.629 --> 02:00:10.639 align:start position:0% minder as ernstige depressie en kom ons 02:00:10.639 --> 02:00:13.270 align:start position:0% minder as ernstige depressie en kom ons noem <02:00:10.949>dit <02:00:11.259>wat <02:00:11.569>dit <02:00:11.879>is <02:00:12.189>en <02:00:12.499>vind <02:00:12.809>'n <02:00:13.119>manier 02:00:13.270 --> 02:00:13.280 align:start position:0% noem dit wat dit is en vind 'n manier 02:00:13.280 --> 02:00:14.709 align:start position:0% noem dit wat dit is en vind 'n manier uit <02:00:13.400>om <02:00:13.520>mense <02:00:13.640>te <02:00:13.760>help 02:00:14.709 --> 02:00:14.719 align:start position:0% uit om mense te help 02:00:14.719 --> 02:00:17.990 align:start position:0% uit om mense te help in <02:00:15.239>visuele <02:00:15.759>terapie <02:00:16.279>groepterapie <02:00:16.799>um 02:00:17.990 --> 02:00:18.000 align:start position:0% in visuele terapie groepterapie um 02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:19.750 align:start position:0% in visuele terapie groepterapie um miskien <02:00:18.380>lewenstyl <02:00:18.760>verandering <02:00:19.140>sal <02:00:19.520>werk 02:00:19.750 --> 02:00:19.760 align:start position:0% miskien lewenstyl verandering sal werk 02:00:19.760 --> 02:00:21.109 align:start position:0% miskien lewenstyl verandering sal werk ons <02:00:19.872>moet <02:00:19.984>dit <02:00:20.096>probeer <02:00:20.208>um, <02:00:20.320>m 02:00:21.109 --> 02:00:21.119 align:start position:0% ons moet dit probeer um, m 02:00:21.119 --> 02:00:23.990 align:start position:0% ons moet dit probeer um, m ar <02:00:21.375>kom <02:00:21.631>ons <02:00:21.887>noem <02:00:22.143>dit <02:00:22.399>wat <02:00:22.655>dit <02:00:22.911>is <02:00:23.167>in <02:00:23.423>plaas <02:00:23.679>daarv 02:00:23.990 --> 02:00:24.000 align:start position:0% ar kom ons noem dit wat dit is in plaas daarv 02:00:24.000 --> 02:00:28.310 align:start position:0% ar kom ons noem dit wat dit is in plaas daarv n <02:00:24.254>om <02:00:24.508>te <02:00:24.762>sê <02:00:25.016>o, <02:00:25.270>jy <02:00:25.524>is <02:00:25.778>uh <02:00:26.032>in <02:00:26.286>hierdie <02:00:26.540>groot <02:00:26.794>mandj 02:00:28.310 --> 02:00:28.320 align:start position:0% n om te sê o, jy is uh in hierdie groot mandj 02:00:28.320 --> 02:00:29.830 align:start position:0% n om te sê o, jy is uh in hierdie groot mandj e <02:00:28.500>van <02:00:28.680>mense <02:00:28.860>wat <02:00:29.040>depressief <02:00:29.220>is, <02:00:29.400>so <02:00:29.580>ons <02:00:29.760>s 02:00:29.830 --> 02:00:29.840 align:start position:0% e van mense wat depressief is, so ons s 02:00:29.840 --> 02:00:31.750 align:start position:0% e van mense wat depressief is, so ons s l <02:00:30.120>vir <02:00:30.400>jou <02:00:30.680>'n <02:00:30.960>antidepressant <02:00:31.240>gee, <02:00:31.520>alhoe 02:00:31.750 --> 02:00:31.760 align:start position:0% l vir jou 'n antidepressant gee, alhoe 02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:34.070 align:start position:0% l vir jou 'n antidepressant gee, alhoe el <02:00:32.093>die <02:00:32.426>bewyse <02:00:32.759>toon <02:00:33.092>dat <02:00:33.425>mense <02:00:33.758>wat 02:00:34.070 --> 02:00:34.080 align:start position:0% el die bewyse toon dat mense wat 02:00:34.080 --> 02:00:35.830 align:start position:0% el die bewyse toon dat mense wat om <02:00:34.479>aan <02:00:34.878>jou <02:00:35.277>vlak <02:00:35.676>van 02:00:35.830 --> 02:00:35.840 align:start position:0% om aan jou vlak van 02:00:35.840 --> 02:00:38.149 align:start position:0% om aan jou vlak van depressie <02:00:36.026>te <02:00:36.212>ly, <02:00:36.398>word <02:00:36.584>nie <02:00:36.770>beter <02:00:36.956>nie 02:00:38.149 --> 02:00:38.159 align:start position:0% depressie te ly, word nie beter nie 02:00:38.159 --> 02:00:39.270 align:start position:0% depressie te ly, word nie beter nie en <02:00:38.212>dit <02:00:38.265>is <02:00:38.318>' 02:00:39.270 --> 02:00:39.280 align:start position:0% en dit is ' 02:00:39.280 --> 02:00:40.390 align:start position:0% en dit is ' n <02:00:39.440>gevolg 02:00:40.390 --> 02:00:40.400 align:start position:0% n gevolg 02:00:40.400 --> 02:00:43.430 align:start position:0% n gevolg daarvan <02:00:40.920>dat <02:00:41.440>jy <02:00:41.960>nie <02:00:42.480>op 02:00:43.430 --> 02:00:43.440 align:start position:0% daarvan dat jy nie op 02:00:43.440 --> 02:00:45.510 align:start position:0% daarvan dat jy nie op voorkomende <02:00:43.728>medisyne <02:00:44.016>fokus <02:00:44.304>nie, <02:00:44.592>die <02:00:44.880>lewenstyl 02:00:45.510 --> 02:00:45.520 align:start position:0% voorkomende medisyne fokus nie, die lewenstyl 02:00:45.520 --> 02:00:48.149 align:start position:0% voorkomende medisyne fokus nie, die lewenstyl verander <02:00:45.893>al <02:00:46.266>daardie <02:00:46.639>soort <02:00:47.012>goed, <02:00:47.385>wel <02:00:47.758>ja, 02:00:48.149 --> 02:00:48.159 align:start position:0% verander al daardie soort goed, wel ja, 02:00:48.159 --> 02:00:50.229 align:start position:0% verander al daardie soort goed, wel ja, maar <02:00:48.433>dit <02:00:48.707>is <02:00:48.981>regtig <02:00:49.255>'n <02:00:49.529>gevolg <02:00:49.803>van <02:00:50.077>die 02:00:50.229 --> 02:00:50.239 align:start position:0% maar dit is regtig 'n gevolg van die 02:00:50.239 --> 02:00:52.950 align:start position:0% maar dit is regtig 'n gevolg van die dwelmmaatskappye <02:00:50.659>wat <02:00:51.079>die <02:00:51.499>indruk <02:00:51.919>skep 02:00:52.950 --> 02:00:52.960 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye wat die indruk skep 02:00:52.960 --> 02:00:56.550 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye wat die indruk skep dat <02:00:53.120>as <02:00:53.280>jy <02:00:53.440>hartseer <02:00:53.600>is <02:00:53.760>neem <02:00:53.920>'n <02:00:54.080>pil 02:00:56.550 --> 02:00:56.560 align:start position:0% 02:00:56.560 --> 02:00:59.030 align:start position:0% as <02:00:56.719>jy 02:00:59.030 --> 02:00:59.040 align:start position:0% 02:00:59.040 --> 02:01:01.030 align:start position:0% nie-ernstige <02:00:59.359>depressie <02:00:59.678>is 02:01:01.030 --> 02:01:01.040 align:start position:0% nie-ernstige depressie is 02:01:01.040 --> 02:01:03.350 align:start position:0% nie-ernstige depressie is hoe <02:01:01.360>oorkom <02:01:01.680>jy <02:01:02.000>depressie 02:01:03.350 --> 02:01:03.360 align:start position:0% hoe oorkom jy depressie 02:01:03.360 --> 02:01:04.629 align:start position:0% hoe oorkom jy depressie goed <02:01:03.546>jy <02:01:03.732>moet <02:01:03.918>praat <02:01:04.104>oor <02:01:04.290>wat <02:01:04.476>die 02:01:04.629 --> 02:01:04.639 align:start position:0% goed jy moet praat oor wat die 02:01:04.639 --> 02:01:06.629 align:start position:0% goed jy moet praat oor wat die probleem <02:01:04.960>is 02:01:06.629 --> 02:01:06.639 align:start position:0% probleem is 02:01:06.639 --> 02:01:08.390 align:start position:0% probleem is so <02:01:06.919>praat <02:01:07.199>terapie 02:01:08.390 --> 02:01:08.400 align:start position:0% so praat terapie 02:01:08.400 --> 02:01:11.350 align:start position:0% so praat terapie leefstyl <02:01:09.000>verander <02:01:09.600>wel <02:01:10.200>nee <02:01:10.800>ek 02:01:11.350 --> 02:01:11.360 align:start position:0% leefstyl verander wel nee ek 02:01:11.360 --> 02:01:13.830 align:start position:0% leefstyl verander wel nee ek spring <02:01:11.648>nie <02:01:11.936>daarby <02:01:12.224>nie <02:01:12.512>ek <02:01:12.800>sê 02:01:13.830 --> 02:01:13.840 align:start position:0% spring nie daarby nie ek sê 02:01:13.840 --> 02:01:16.070 align:start position:0% spring nie daarby nie ek sê jy <02:01:14.440>behoort <02:01:15.040>'n 02:01:16.070 --> 02:01:16.080 align:start position:0% jy behoort 'n 02:01:16.080 --> 02:01:17.669 align:start position:0% jy behoort 'n die <02:01:16.239>manier <02:01:16.398>waarop <02:01:16.557>jy <02:01:16.716>voel 02:01:17.669 --> 02:01:17.679 align:start position:0% die manier waarop jy voel 02:01:17.679 --> 02:01:19.350 align:start position:0% die manier waarop jy voel moet <02:01:17.879>gerespekteer <02:01:18.079>word, 02:01:19.350 --> 02:01:19.360 align:start position:0% moet gerespekteer word, 02:01:19.360 --> 02:01:21.030 align:start position:0% moet gerespekteer word, ja <02:01:19.640>erken <02:01:19.920>dat <02:01:20.200>jy <02:01:20.480>ly 02:01:21.030 --> 02:01:21.040 align:start position:0% ja erken dat jy ly 02:01:21.040 --> 02:01:22.790 align:start position:0% ja erken dat jy ly erken <02:01:21.420>dat <02:01:21.800>jy <02:01:22.180>ly <02:01:22.560>en 02:01:22.790 --> 02:01:22.800 align:start position:0% erken dat jy ly en 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:24.870 align:start position:0% erken dat jy ly en handel <02:01:23.413>met <02:01:24.026>gesondheidsorgverskaffers <02:01:24.639>wat 02:01:24.870 --> 02:01:24.880 align:start position:0% handel met gesondheidsorgverskaffers wat 02:01:24.880 --> 02:01:27.750 align:start position:0% handel met gesondheidsorgverskaffers wat erken <02:01:25.439>dat <02:01:25.998>jy <02:01:26.557>ly, <02:01:27.116>so 02:01:27.750 --> 02:01:27.760 align:start position:0% erken dat jy ly, so 02:01:27.760 --> 02:01:30.070 align:start position:0% erken dat jy ly, so kom <02:01:28.016>ons <02:01:28.272>neem <02:01:28.528>daardie <02:01:28.784>eerste <02:01:29.040>stap 02:01:30.070 --> 02:01:30.080 align:start position:0% kom ons neem daardie eerste stap 02:01:30.080 --> 02:01:33.589 align:start position:0% kom ons neem daardie eerste stap en <02:01:30.491>eerste <02:01:30.902>stap <02:01:31.313>ook <02:01:31.724>groot <02:01:32.135>eerste <02:01:32.546>stap <02:01:32.957>ja, 02:01:33.589 --> 02:01:33.599 align:start position:0% en eerste stap ook groot eerste stap ja, 02:01:33.599 --> 02:01:36.070 align:start position:0% en eerste stap ook groot eerste stap ja, gesinsdokters <02:01:33.919>is <02:01:34.239>redelik <02:01:34.559>goed <02:01:34.879>daarmee, 02:01:36.070 --> 02:01:36.080 align:start position:0% gesinsdokters is redelik goed daarmee, 02:01:36.080 --> 02:01:37.510 align:start position:0% gesinsdokters is redelik goed daarmee, dit <02:01:36.346>is <02:01:36.612>soort <02:01:36.878>van 02:01:37.510 --> 02:01:37.520 align:start position:0% dit is soort van 02:01:37.520 --> 02:01:40.310 align:start position:0% dit is soort van die <02:01:37.885>arena <02:01:38.250>wat <02:01:38.615>veroorsaak <02:01:38.980>het <02:01:39.345>dat <02:01:39.710>ek <02:01:40.075>in 02:01:40.310 --> 02:01:40.320 align:start position:0% die arena wat veroorsaak het dat ek in 02:01:40.320 --> 02:01:41.750 align:start position:0% die arena wat veroorsaak het dat ek in gesinsgeneeskunde <02:01:40.479>ingegaan <02:01:40.638>het, 02:01:41.750 --> 02:01:41.760 align:start position:0% gesinsgeneeskunde ingegaan het, 02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:44.149 align:start position:0% gesinsgeneeskunde ingegaan het, die <02:01:42.080>subjektiewe <02:01:42.400>ervaring <02:01:42.720>van <02:01:43.040>die <02:01:43.360>pasiënt 02:01:44.149 --> 02:01:44.159 align:start position:0% die subjektiewe ervaring van die pasiënt 02:01:44.159 --> 02:01:46.629 align:start position:0% die subjektiewe ervaring van die pasiënt okay, <02:01:44.431>so <02:01:44.703>jy <02:01:44.975>is <02:01:45.247>'n <02:01:45.519>persoon 02:01:46.629 --> 02:01:46.639 align:start position:0% okay, so jy is 'n persoon 02:01:46.639 --> 02:01:49.030 align:start position:0% okay, so jy is 'n persoon wat <02:01:47.199>nie <02:01:47.759>die <02:01:48.319>genot <02:01:48.879>uit 02:01:49.030 --> 02:01:49.040 align:start position:0% wat nie die genot uit 02:01:49.040 --> 02:01:51.030 align:start position:0% wat nie die genot uit hul <02:01:49.280>lewe <02:01:49.520>kry <02:01:49.760>wat <02:01:50.000>hulle <02:01:50.240>voel <02:01:50.480>nie <02:01:50.720>hulle <02:01:50.960>behoort 02:01:51.030 --> 02:01:51.040 align:start position:0% hul lewe kry wat hulle voel nie hulle behoort 02:01:51.040 --> 02:01:54.550 align:start position:0% hul lewe kry wat hulle voel nie hulle behoort nou <02:01:51.405>te <02:01:51.770>kry, <02:01:52.135>kom <02:01:52.500>ons <02:01:52.865>vind <02:01:53.230>uit <02:01:53.595>hoekom 02:01:54.550 --> 02:01:54.560 align:start position:0% nou te kry, kom ons vind uit hoekom 02:01:54.560 --> 02:01:56.390 align:start position:0% nou te kry, kom ons vind uit hoekom en <02:01:54.677>of <02:01:54.794>dit <02:01:54.911>'n <02:01:55.028>tyd <02:01:55.145>met <02:01:55.262>'n <02:01:55.379>maatskaplike <02:01:55.496>werker <02:01:55.613>beteken <02:01:55.730>een <02:01:55.847>of <02:01:55.964>ander <02:01:56.081>tyd <02:01:56.198>met <02:01:56.315>' 02:01:56.390 --> 02:01:56.400 align:start position:0% en of dit 'n tyd met 'n maatskaplike werker beteken een of ander tyd met ' 02:01:56.400 --> 02:01:58.229 align:start position:0% en of dit 'n tyd met 'n maatskaplike werker beteken een of ander tyd met ' n 02:01:58.229 --> 02:01:58.239 align:start position:0% n 02:01:58.239 --> 02:02:00.709 align:start position:0% n psigiater <02:01:58.502>een <02:01:58.765>of <02:01:59.028>ander <02:01:59.291>tyd <02:01:59.554>met <02:01:59.817>'n <02:02:00.080>psigiatriese 02:02:00.709 --> 02:02:00.719 align:start position:0% psigiater een of ander tyd met 'n psigiatriese 02:02:00.719 --> 02:02:02.310 align:start position:0% psigiater een of ander tyd met 'n psigiatriese verpleegster. 02:02:02.310 --> 02:02:02.320 align:start position:0% verpleegster. 02:02:02.320 --> 02:02:04.229 align:start position:0% verpleegster. Ek <02:02:02.530>is <02:02:02.740>nie <02:02:02.950>seker <02:02:03.160>hoe <02:02:03.370>jy <02:02:03.580>dit <02:02:03.790>die <02:02:04.000>beste 02:02:04.229 --> 02:02:04.239 align:start position:0% Ek is nie seker hoe jy dit die beste 02:02:04.239 --> 02:02:06.070 align:start position:0% Ek is nie seker hoe jy dit die beste doeltreffendste <02:02:04.439>en <02:02:04.639>doeltreffendste <02:02:04.839>sal <02:02:05.039>doen <02:02:05.239>nie, <02:02:05.439>maar <02:02:05.639>dit <02:02:05.839>is 02:02:06.070 --> 02:02:06.080 align:start position:0% doeltreffendste en doeltreffendste sal doen nie, maar dit is 02:02:06.080 --> 02:02:07.430 align:start position:0% doeltreffendste en doeltreffendste sal doen nie, maar dit is wat <02:02:06.186>jy <02:02:06.292>nodig <02:02:06.398>het <02:02:06.504>om <02:02:06.610>te <02:02:06.716>doen 02:02:07.430 --> 02:02:07.440 align:start position:0% wat jy nodig het om te doen 02:02:07.440 --> 02:02:11.030 align:start position:0% wat jy nodig het om te doen en <02:02:07.960>dit <02:02:08.480>mag <02:02:09.000>wees <02:02:09.520>dat <02:02:10.040>daar <02:02:10.560>'n 02:02:11.030 --> 02:02:11.040 align:start position:0% en dit mag wees dat daar 'n 02:02:11.040 --> 02:02:13.510 align:start position:0% en dit mag wees dat daar 'n huweliksprobleem <02:02:11.309>is <02:02:11.578>en <02:02:11.847>daar <02:02:12.116>is <02:02:12.385>iets <02:02:12.654>aan <02:02:12.923>die <02:02:13.192>gang 02:02:13.510 --> 02:02:13.520 align:start position:0% huweliksprobleem is en daar is iets aan die gang 02:02:13.520 --> 02:02:14.870 align:start position:0% huweliksprobleem is en daar is iets aan die gang en <02:02:14.080>uh 02:02:14.870 --> 02:02:14.880 align:start position:0% en uh 02:02:14.880 --> 02:02:17.589 align:start position:0% en uh een <02:02:15.327>van <02:02:15.774>die <02:02:16.221>gades <02:02:16.668>kan <02:02:17.115>nie 02:02:17.589 --> 02:02:17.599 align:start position:0% een van die gades kan nie 02:02:17.599 --> 02:02:19.510 align:start position:0% een van die gades kan nie bevrediging <02:02:17.850>vind <02:02:18.101>in <02:02:18.352>die <02:02:18.603>lewe <02:02:18.854>waarin <02:02:19.105>hulle <02:02:19.356>moet 02:02:19.510 --> 02:02:19.520 align:start position:0% bevrediging vind in die lewe waarin hulle moet 02:02:19.520 --> 02:02:21.669 align:start position:0% bevrediging vind in die lewe waarin hulle moet leef <02:02:19.840>binne <02:02:20.160>die <02:02:20.480>verhouding <02:02:20.800>nie <02:02:21.120>miskien <02:02:21.440>is 02:02:21.669 --> 02:02:21.679 align:start position:0% leef binne die verhouding nie miskien is 02:02:21.679 --> 02:02:23.589 align:start position:0% leef binne die verhouding nie miskien is daar <02:02:21.959>'n <02:02:22.239>vorige <02:02:22.519>geskiedenis <02:02:22.799>van <02:02:23.079>trauma <02:02:23.359>of 02:02:23.589 --> 02:02:23.599 align:start position:0% daar 'n vorige geskiedenis van trauma of 02:02:23.599 --> 02:02:26.470 align:start position:0% daar 'n vorige geskiedenis van trauma of mishandeling <02:02:24.259>wat <02:02:24.919>iemand <02:02:25.579>projekteer <02:02:26.239>op 02:02:26.470 --> 02:02:26.480 align:start position:0% mishandeling wat iemand projekteer op 02:02:26.480 --> 02:02:28.390 align:start position:0% mishandeling wat iemand projekteer op hul <02:02:26.799>huidige <02:02:27.118>situasie 02:02:28.390 --> 02:02:28.400 align:start position:0% hul huidige situasie 02:02:28.400 --> 02:02:30.950 align:start position:0% hul huidige situasie uh <02:02:28.859>miskien <02:02:29.318>die <02:02:29.777>sosio-ekonomiese <02:02:30.236>omstandighede 02:02:30.950 --> 02:02:30.960 align:start position:0% uh miskien die sosio-ekonomiese omstandighede 02:02:30.960 --> 02:02:32.390 align:start position:0% uh miskien die sosio-ekonomiese omstandighede waar <02:02:31.199>hulle <02:02:31.438>nie <02:02:31.677>' 02:02:32.390 --> 02:02:32.400 align:start position:0% waar hulle nie ' 02:02:32.400 --> 02:02:34.790 align:start position:0% waar hulle 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bestee word, 02:05:00.560 --> 02:05:02.950 align:start position:0% epidemiologies geleide manier bestee word, baie <02:05:00.868>meer <02:05:01.176>lewens <02:05:01.484>as <02:05:01.792>een <02:05:02.100>lewe <02:05:02.408>gaan <02:05:02.716>red, 02:05:02.950 --> 02:05:02.960 align:start position:0% baie meer lewens as een lewe gaan red, 02:05:02.960 --> 02:05:05.589 align:start position:0% baie meer lewens as een lewe gaan red, so <02:05:03.314>dit <02:05:03.668>is <02:05:04.022>ook <02:05:04.376>jou <02:05:04.730>verantwoordelikheid <02:05:05.084>as <02:05:05.438>' 02:05:05.589 --> 02:05:05.599 align:start position:0% so dit is ook jou verantwoordelikheid as ' 02:05:05.599 --> 02:05:07.430 align:start position:0% so dit is ook jou verantwoordelikheid as ' n <02:05:05.865>dokter <02:05:06.131>om <02:05:06.397>daarvan <02:05:06.663>weg <02:05:06.929>te <02:05:07.195>stap 02:05:07.430 --> 02:05:07.440 align:start position:0% n dokter om daarvan weg te stap 02:05:07.440 --> 02:05:08.550 align:start position:0% n dokter om daarvan weg te stap geduldig 02:05:08.550 --> 02:05:08.560 align:start position:0% geduldig 02:05:08.560 --> 02:05:11.109 align:start position:0% geduldig ek <02:05:08.826>sal <02:05:09.092>nie <02:05:09.358>sê <02:05:09.624>dat <02:05:09.890>ek <02:05:10.156>dink <02:05:10.422>dit <02:05:10.688>is <02:05:10.954>jou 02:05:11.109 --> 02:05:11.119 align:start position:0% ek sal nie sê dat ek dink dit is jou 02:05:11.119 --> 02:05:13.910 align:start position:0% ek sal nie sê dat ek dink dit is jou verantwoordelikheid <02:05:12.000>marteling 02:05:13.910 --> 02:05:13.920 align:start position:0% verantwoordelikheid marteling 02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:17.030 align:start position:0% verantwoordelikheid marteling wat <02:05:14.159>presies <02:05:14.398>reg <02:05:14.637>is 02:05:17.030 --> 02:05:17.040 align:start position:0% 02:05:17.040 --> 02:05:21.350 align:start position:0% die <02:05:17.319>menslike <02:05:17.598>toestand 02:05:21.350 --> 02:05:21.360 align:start position:0% 02:05:21.360 --> 02:05:23.109 align:start position:0% wat <02:05:21.533>'n <02:05:21.706>moeilike <02:05:21.879>werk <02:05:22.052>is <02:05:22.225>nie <02:05:22.398>maar 02:05:23.109 --> 02:05:23.119 align:start position:0% wat 'n moeilike werk is nie maar 02:05:23.119 --> 02:05:24.550 align:start position:0% wat 'n moeilike werk is nie maar ja <02:05:23.599>ja 02:05:24.550 --> 02:05:24.560 align:start position:0% ja ja 02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:27.109 align:start position:0% ja ja om <02:05:24.880>jou <02:05:25.200>menslikheid <02:05:25.520>te <02:05:25.840>handhaaf <02:05:26.160>deur <02:05:26.480>i <02:05:26.800>alles 02:05:27.109 --> 02:05:27.119 align:start position:0% om jou menslikheid te handhaaf deur i alles 02:05:27.119 --> 02:05:29.430 align:start position:0% om jou menslikheid te handhaaf deur i alles ja, <02:05:27.546>maar <02:05:27.973>jy <02:05:28.400>het 02:05:29.430 --> 02:05:29.440 align:start position:0% ja, maar jy het 02:05:29.440 --> 02:05:32.229 align:start position:0% ja, maar jy het op <02:05:29.600>verskillende <02:05:29.760>punte <02:05:29.920>in <02:05:30.080>hierdie <02:05:30.240>gesprek <02:05:30.400>gevra 02:05:32.229 --> 02:05:32.239 align:start position:0% op verskillende punte in hierdie gesprek gevra 02:05:32.239 --> 02:05:35.910 align:start position:0% op verskillende punte in hierdie gesprek gevra hoekom <02:05:32.799>is <02:05:33.359>dokters <02:05:33.919>so <02:05:34.479>selfvoldaan 02:05:35.910 --> 02:05:35.920 align:start position:0% hoekom is dokters so selfvoldaan 02:05:35.920 --> 02:05:37.589 align:start position:0% hoekom is dokters so selfvoldaan oor <02:05:36.192>die <02:05:36.464>geweldige <02:05:36.736>hoeveelheid <02:05:37.008>geld <02:05:37.280>wat 02:05:37.589 --> 02:05:37.599 align:start position:0% oor die geweldige hoeveelheid geld wat 02:05:37.599 --> 02:05:38.790 align:start position:0% oor die geweldige hoeveelheid geld wat ons <02:05:37.760>spandeer, 02:05:38.790 --> 02:05:38.800 align:start position:0% ons spandeer, 02:05:38.800 --> 02:05:40.470 align:start position:0% ons spandeer, hoekom <02:05:39.159>aanvaar <02:05:39.518>hulle <02:05:39.877>kennis <02:05:40.236>van 02:05:40.470 --> 02:05:40.480 align:start position:0% hoekom aanvaar hulle kennis van 02:05:40.480 --> 02:05:42.790 align:start position:0% hoekom aanvaar hulle kennis van verskillende <02:05:40.911>bronne <02:05:41.342>wat <02:05:41.773>dalk <02:05:42.204>nie <02:05:42.635>uitkom 02:05:42.790 --> 02:05:42.800 align:start position:0% verskillende bronne wat dalk nie uitkom 02:05:42.800 --> 02:05:45.189 align:start position:0% verskillende bronne wat dalk nie uitkom as <02:05:42.960>hulle <02:05:43.120>regtig <02:05:43.280>die <02:05:43.440>waarheid <02:05:43.600>ken <02:05:43.760>nie 02:05:45.189 --> 02:05:45.199 align:start position:0% as hulle regtig die waarheid ken nie 02:05:45.199 --> 02:05:47.510 align:start position:0% as hulle regtig die waarheid ken nie en <02:05:45.559>die <02:05:45.919>antwoord <02:05:46.279>is <02:05:46.639>dat <02:05:46.999>hulle <02:05:47.359>probeer 02:05:47.510 --> 02:05:47.520 align:start position:0% en die antwoord is dat hulle probeer 02:05:47.520 --> 02:05:49.910 align:start position:0% en die antwoord is dat hulle probeer om <02:05:47.679>hul <02:05:47.838>bes <02:05:47.997>vir <02:05:48.156>hul <02:05:48.315>pasiënte <02:05:48.474>te <02:05:48.633>doen 02:05:49.910 --> 02:05:49.920 align:start position:0% om hul bes vir hul pasiënte te doen 02:05:49.920 --> 02:05:52.229 align:start position:0% om hul bes vir hul pasiënte te doen ja <02:05:50.559>en <02:05:51.198>um 02:05:52.229 --> 02:05:52.239 align:start position:0% ja en um 02:05:52.239 --> 02:05:55.030 align:start position:0% ja en um daar <02:05:52.599>is <02:05:52.959>hierdie <02:05:53.319>dit <02:05:53.679>is <02:05:54.039>dieselfde <02:05:54.399>soort 02:05:55.030 --> 02:05:55.040 align:start position:0% daar is hierdie dit is dieselfde soort 02:05:55.040 --> 02:05:56.310 align:start position:0% daar is hierdie dit is dieselfde soort marteling 02:05:56.310 --> 02:05:56.320 align:start position:0% marteling 02:05:56.320 --> 02:05:58.870 align:start position:0% marteling om <02:05:56.651>uit <02:05:56.982>te <02:05:57.313>vind <02:05:57.644>wat <02:05:57.975>de <02:05:58.306>hel <02:05:58.637>aangaan 02:05:58.870 --> 02:05:58.880 align:start position:0% om uit te vind wat de hel aangaan 02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:00.709 align:start position:0% om uit te vind wat de hel aangaan met <02:05:59.039>die <02:05:59.198>data 02:06:00.709 --> 02:06:00.719 align:start position:0% met die data 02:06:00.719 --> 02:06:03.910 align:start position:0% met die data en <02:06:01.096>dit <02:06:01.473>is <02:06:01.850>'n <02:06:02.227>soort <02:06:02.604>toekomstige <02:06:02.981>projek <02:06:03.358>en 02:06:03.910 --> 02:06:03.920 align:start position:0% en dit is 'n soort toekomstige projek en 02:06:03.920 --> 02:06:04.950 align:start position:0% en dit is 'n soort toekomstige projek en miskien sal 02:06:04.950 --> 02:06:04.960 align:start position:0% miskien sal 02:06:04.960 --> 02:06:06.390 align:start position:0% miskien sal mense <02:06:05.159>lees <02:06:05.358>my <02:06:05.557>boek <02:06:05.756>en <02:06:05.955>miskien <02:06:06.154>sal 02:06:06.390 --> 02:06:06.400 align:start position:0% mense lees my boek en miskien sal 02:06:06.400 --> 02:06:07.910 align:start position:0% mense lees my boek en miskien sal hulle <02:06:06.655>'n <02:06:06.910>bietjie <02:06:07.165>meer <02:06:07.420>opgewonde <02:06:07.675>raak 02:06:07.910 --> 02:06:07.920 align:start position:0% hulle 'n bietjie meer opgewonde raak 02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:10.229 align:start position:0% hulle 'n bietjie meer opgewonde raak daaroor <02:06:08.279>word <02:06:08.638>meer <02:06:08.997>wettig <02:06:09.356>en <02:06:09.715>oefen <02:06:10.074>ek 02:06:10.229 --> 02:06:10.239 align:start position:0% daaroor word meer wettig en oefen ek 02:06:10.239 --> 02:06:12.069 align:start position:0% daaroor word meer wettig en oefen ek sou <02:06:10.422>voel <02:06:10.605>my <02:06:10.788>lewe <02:06:10.971>was <02:06:11.154>die <02:06:11.337>moeite <02:06:11.520>werd 02:06:12.069 --> 02:06:12.079 align:start position:0% sou voel my lewe was die moeite werd 02:06:12.079 --> 02:06:13.589 align:start position:0% sou voel my lewe was die moeite werd as <02:06:12.199>dit <02:06:12.319>gebeur, 02:06:13.589 --> 02:06:13.599 align:start position:0% as dit gebeur, 02:06:13.599 --> 02:06:14.629 align:start position:0% as dit gebeur, maar 02:06:14.629 --> 02:06:14.639 align:start position:0% maar 02:06:14.639 --> 02:06:15.990 align:start position:0% maar terselfdertyd <02:06:14.919>moet <02:06:15.199>hulle <02:06:15.479>iets <02:06:15.759>doen 02:06:15.990 --> 02:06:16.000 align:start position:0% terselfdertyd moet hulle iets doen 02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:17.030 align:start position:0% terselfdertyd moet hulle iets doen 02:06:17.030 --> 02:06:17.040 align:start position:0% 02:06:17.040 --> 02:06:18.629 align:start position:0% met <02:06:17.386>die <02:06:17.732>pasiënt <02:06:18.078>voor 02:06:18.629 --> 02:06:18.639 align:start position:0% met die pasiënt voor 02:06:18.639 --> 02:06:21.109 align:start position:0% met die pasiënt voor hulle. <02:06:18.815>Ek <02:06:18.991>moet <02:06:19.167>'n <02:06:19.343>besluit <02:06:19.519>neem 02:06:21.109 --> 02:06:21.119 align:start position:0% hulle. Ek moet 'n besluit neem 02:06:21.119 --> 02:06:23.589 align:start position:0% hulle. Ek moet 'n besluit neem en <02:06:21.551>daar <02:06:21.983>is <02:06:22.415>waarskynlik <02:06:22.847>nie <02:06:23.279>baie 02:06:23.589 --> 02:06:23.599 align:start position:0% en daar is waarskynlik nie baie 02:06:23.599 --> 02:06:25.589 align:start position:0% en daar is waarskynlik nie baie vreemdelinge <02:06:23.999>soos <02:06:24.399>ek <02:06:24.799>wat 02:06:25.589 --> 02:06:25.599 align:start position:0% vreemdelinge soos ek wat 02:06:25.599 --> 02:06:27.430 align:start position:0% vreemdelinge soos ek wat hul <02:06:25.827>lewe <02:06:26.055>belê <02:06:26.283>om <02:06:26.511>uit <02:06:26.739>te <02:06:26.967>vind <02:06:27.195>wat 02:06:27.430 --> 02:06:27.440 align:start position:0% hul lewe belê om uit te vind wat 02:06:27.440 --> 02:06:29.109 align:start position:0% hul lewe belê om uit te vind wat agter <02:06:27.744>die <02:06:28.048>data <02:06:28.352>is <02:06:28.656>wat <02:06:28.960>hulle 02:06:29.109 --> 02:06:29.119 align:start position:0% agter die data is wat hulle 02:06:29.119 --> 02:06:30.390 align:start position:0% agter die data is wat hulle deur <02:06:29.259>die <02:06:29.399>dag <02:06:29.539>probeer <02:06:29.679>kry <02:06:29.819>en <02:06:29.959>die <02:06:30.099>regte <02:06:30.239>ding 02:06:30.390 --> 02:06:30.400 align:start position:0% deur die dag probeer kry en die regte ding 02:06:30.400 --> 02:06:31.589 align:start position:0% deur die dag probeer kry en die regte ding vir <02:06:30.463>hul <02:06:30.526>patie <02:06:30.589>doen <02:06:30.652>nie <02:06:30.715>nt 02:06:31.589 --> 02:06:31.599 align:start position:0% vir hul patie doen nie nt 02:06:31.599 --> 02:06:33.030 align:start position:0% vir hul patie doen nie nt so 02:06:33.030 --> 02:06:33.040 align:start position:0% so 02:06:33.040 --> 02:06:34.950 align:start position:0% so hulle <02:06:33.280>word <02:06:33.520>ook <02:06:33.760>gemartel <02:06:34.000>deur <02:06:34.240>daardie <02:06:34.480>besluit, 02:06:34.950 --> 02:06:34.960 align:start position:0% hulle word ook gemartel deur daardie besluit, 02:06:34.960 --> 02:06:36.709 align:start position:0% hulle word ook gemartel deur daardie besluit, en <02:06:35.119>so 02:06:36.709 --> 02:06:36.719 align:start position:0% en so 02:06:36.719 --> 02:06:38.470 align:start position:0% en so as <02:06:36.825>jy <02:06:36.931>nie <02:06:37.037>versigtig <02:06:37.143>is <02:06:37.249>nie, <02:06:37.355>kan 02:06:38.470 --> 02:06:38.480 align:start position:0% as jy nie versigtig is nie, kan 02:06:38.480 --> 02:06:39.990 align:start position:0% as jy nie versigtig is nie, kan groot <02:06:38.586>farmaseutiese <02:06:38.692>farmaseutiese <02:06:38.798>ondernemings 02:06:39.990 --> 02:06:42.550 align:start position:0% groot farmaseutiese farmaseutiese ondernemings 02:06:42.550 --> 02:06:42.560 align:start position:0% 02:06:42.560 --> 02:06:44.870 align:start position:0% daardie <02:06:42.749>dryfkrag <02:06:42.938>manipuleer <02:06:43.127>om <02:06:43.316>die <02:06:43.505>pasiënt <02:06:43.694>te <02:06:43.883>probeer <02:06:44.072>help 02:06:44.870 --> 02:06:44.880 align:start position:0% daardie dryfkrag manipuleer om die pasiënt te probeer help 02:06:44.880 --> 02:06:47.910 align:start position:0% daardie dryfkrag manipuleer om die pasiënt te probeer help om <02:06:46.080>daardie <02:06:47.280>mensdom 02:06:47.910 --> 02:06:47.920 align:start position:0% om daardie mensdom 02:06:47.920 --> 02:06:49.669 align:start position:0% om daardie mensdom om <02:06:48.137>die <02:06:48.354>onsekerheid <02:06:48.571>van <02:06:48.788>dit <02:06:49.005>alles <02:06:49.222>te <02:06:49.439>hanteer 02:06:49.669 --> 02:06:49.679 align:start position:0% om die onsekerheid van dit alles te hanteer 02:06:49.679 --> 02:06:51.830 align:start position:0% om die onsekerheid van dit alles te hanteer soos <02:06:49.850>wat <02:06:50.021>die <02:06:50.192>beste <02:06:50.363>ding <02:06:50.534>is <02:06:50.705>om <02:06:50.876>do 02:06:51.830 --> 02:06:51.840 align:start position:0% soos wat die beste ding is om do 02:06:51.840 --> 02:06:53.830 align:start position:0% soos wat die beste ding is om do big <02:06:52.146>pharma <02:06:52.452>kan <02:06:52.758>intree <02:06:53.064>en <02:06:53.370>geld <02:06:53.676>gebruik 02:06:53.830 --> 02:06:53.840 align:start position:0% big pharma kan intree en geld gebruik 02:06:53.840 --> 02:06:55.910 align:start position:0% big pharma kan intree en geld gebruik om <02:06:54.160>daardie <02:06:54.480>mensdom <02:06:54.800>te <02:06:55.120>manipuleer <02:06:55.440>ja, <02:06:55.760>ek 02:06:55.910 --> 02:06:55.920 align:start position:0% om daardie mensdom te manipuleer ja, ek 02:06:55.920 --> 02:06:57.910 align:start position:0% om daardie mensdom te manipuleer ja, ek sal <02:06:56.124>dit <02:06:56.328>heel <02:06:56.532>anders <02:06:56.736>stel <02:06:56.940>dit <02:06:57.144>is <02:06:57.348>soort <02:06:57.552>van <02:06:57.756>' 02:06:57.910 --> 02:06:57.920 align:start position:0% sal dit heel anders stel dit is soort van ' 02:06:57.920 --> 02:07:01.109 align:start position:0% sal dit heel anders stel dit is soort van ' n <02:06:58.413>opt-out <02:06:58.906>eerder <02:06:59.399>as <02:06:59.892>'n <02:07:00.385>opt-in <02:07:00.878>big 02:07:01.109 --> 02:07:01.119 align:start position:0% n opt-out eerder as 'n opt-in big 02:07:01.119 --> 02:07:02.790 align:start position:0% n opt-out eerder as 'n opt-in big pharma <02:07:01.412>sal <02:07:01.705>dit <02:07:01.998>doen 02:07:02.790 --> 02:07:02.800 align:start position:0% pharma sal dit doen 02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:07.910 align:start position:0% pharma sal dit doen en <02:07:03.139>jy <02:07:03.478>moet <02:07:03.817>onttrek <02:07:04.156>daaruit 02:07:07.910 --> 02:07:07.920 align:start position:0% 02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:10.149 align:start position:0% watter <02:07:08.205>raad <02:07:08.490>sal <02:07:08.775>jy <02:07:09.060>gee <02:07:09.345>aan <02:07:09.630>'n <02:07:09.915>jong 02:07:10.149 --> 02:07:10.159 align:start position:0% watter raad sal jy gee aan 'n jong 02:07:10.159 --> 02:07:14.550 align:start position:0% watter raad sal jy gee aan 'n jong persoon <02:07:10.679>vandag <02:07:11.199>in <02:07:11.719>hoërskool <02:07:12.239>of 02:07:14.550 --> 02:07:14.560 align:start position:0% persoon vandag in hoërskool of 02:07:14.560 --> 02:07:16.950 align:start position:0% persoon vandag in hoërskool of kollege <02:07:14.879>wat <02:07:15.198>in <02:07:15.517>hierdie <02:07:15.836>ingewikkelde <02:07:16.155>wêreld 02:07:16.950 --> 02:07:16.960 align:start position:0% kollege wat in hierdie ingewikkelde wêreld 02:07:16.960 --> 02:07:19.109 align:start position:0% kollege wat in hierdie ingewikkelde wêreld vol <02:07:17.360>advertensies 02:07:19.109 --> 02:07:19.119 align:start position:0% vol advertensies 02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:22.470 align:start position:0% vol advertensies van <02:07:19.625>groot <02:07:20.131>magtige <02:07:20.637>instellings 02:07:22.470 --> 02:07:22.480 align:start position:0% van groot magtige instellings 02:07:22.480 --> 02:07:24.790 align:start position:0% van groot magtige instellings van <02:07:22.700>groot <02:07:22.920>ryk <02:07:23.140>maatskappye <02:07:23.360>instap 02:07:24.790 --> 02:07:24.800 align:start position:0% van groot ryk maatskappye instap 02:07:24.800 --> 02:07:26.470 align:start position:0% van groot ryk maatskappye instap hoe <02:07:25.053>om <02:07:25.306>'n <02:07:25.559>positiewe <02:07:25.812>impak <02:07:26.065>in <02:07:26.318>die 02:07:26.470 --> 02:07:26.480 align:start position:0% hoe om 'n positiewe impak in die 02:07:26.480 --> 02:07:28.709 align:start position:0% hoe om 'n positiewe impak in die wêreld <02:07:26.640>te <02:07:26.800>hê <02:07:26.960>hoe <02:07:27.120>om <02:07:27.280>'n <02:07:27.440>lewe <02:07:27.600>te <02:07:27.760>lei <02:07:27.920>waarop <02:07:28.080>hulle <02:07:28.240>trots <02:07:28.400>kan <02:07:28.560>wees, 02:07:28.709 --> 02:07:30.790 align:start position:0% wêreld te hê hoe om 'n lewe te lei waarop hulle trots kan wees, 02:07:30.790 --> 02:07:30.800 align:start position:0% 02:07:30.800 --> 02:07:34.550 align:start position:0% sou <02:07:31.136>ek <02:07:31.472>sê <02:07:31.808>sou <02:07:32.144>dit <02:07:32.480>persoon 02:07:34.550 --> 02:07:34.560 align:start position:0% sou ek sê sou dit persoon 02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:36.709 align:start position:0% sou ek sê sou dit persoon wat <02:07:34.819>net <02:07:35.078>goeie <02:07:35.337>motiewe <02:07:35.596>het, 02:07:36.709 --> 02:07:36.719 align:start position:0% wat net goeie motiewe het, 02:07:36.719 --> 02:07:38.390 align:start position:0% wat net goeie motiewe het, gaan <02:07:37.023>in <02:07:37.327>medisyne, <02:07:37.631>hulle <02:07:37.935>het <02:07:38.239>'n 02:07:38.390 --> 02:07:38.400 align:start position:0% gaan in medisyne, hulle het 'n 02:07:38.400 --> 02:07:39.750 align:start position:0% gaan in medisyne, hulle het 'n neiging <02:07:38.613>om <02:07:38.826>in <02:07:39.039>medisyne <02:07:39.252>te <02:07:39.465>gaan <02:07:39.678>en 02:07:39.750 --> 02:07:39.760 align:start position:0% neiging om in medisyne te gaan en 02:07:39.760 --> 02:07:41.990 align:start position:0% neiging om in medisyne te gaan en hulle <02:07:40.034>het <02:07:40.308>my <02:07:40.582>gevra <02:07:40.856>wat <02:07:41.130>ek <02:07:41.404>daaroor <02:07:41.678>dink, 02:07:41.990 --> 02:07:42.000 align:start position:0% hulle het my gevra wat ek daaroor dink, 02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:45.350 align:start position:0% hulle het my gevra wat ek daaroor dink, gegewe <02:07:42.426>wat <02:07:42.852>ek <02:07:43.278>weet <02:07:43.704>oor <02:07:44.130>die <02:07:44.556>ondermyning 02:07:45.350 --> 02:07:45.360 align:start position:0% gegewe wat ek weet oor die ondermyning 02:07:45.360 --> 02:07:47.830 align:start position:0% gegewe wat ek weet oor die ondermyning van <02:07:45.711>Amerikaanse <02:07:46.062>gesondheidsorg <02:07:46.413>op <02:07:46.764>hierdie <02:07:47.115>stadium 02:07:47.830 --> 02:07:47.840 align:start position:0% van Amerikaanse gesondheidsorg op hierdie stadium 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:50.550 align:start position:0% van Amerikaanse gesondheidsorg op hierdie stadium en <02:07:48.030>my <02:07:48.220>an <02:07:48.410>swer <02:07:48.600>is <02:07:48.790>as <02:07:48.980>jy <02:07:49.170>die <02:07:49.360>roeping 02:07:50.550 --> 02:07:50.560 align:start position:0% en my an swer is as jy die roeping 02:07:50.560 --> 02:07:52.310 align:start position:0% en my an swer is as jy die roeping het <02:07:50.746>moet <02:07:50.932>jy <02:07:51.118>dit 02:07:52.310 --> 02:07:52.320 align:start position:0% het moet jy dit 02:07:52.320 --> 02:07:53.910 align:start position:0% het moet jy dit doen <02:07:52.573>moet <02:07:52.826>jy <02:07:53.079>dit <02:07:53.332>doen <02:07:53.585>want <02:07:53.838>niemand 02:07:53.910 --> 02:07:53.920 align:start position:0% doen moet jy dit doen want niemand 02:07:53.920 --> 02:07:56.069 align:start position:0% doen moet jy dit doen want niemand gaan 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02:08:03.189 --> 02:08:03.199 align:start position:0% gaan jy nie trots wees nie van jouself 02:08:03.199 --> 02:08:06.629 align:start position:0% gaan jy nie trots wees nie van jouself hoe <02:08:03.599>verhoed <02:08:03.999>jy <02:08:04.399>jouself <02:08:04.799>om <02:08:05.199>te 02:08:06.629 --> 02:08:06.639 align:start position:0% hoe verhoed jy jouself om te 02:08:06.639 --> 02:08:07.750 align:start position:0% hoe verhoed jy jouself om te doen 02:08:07.750 --> 02:08:07.760 align:start position:0% doen 02:08:07.760 --> 02:08:09.350 align:start position:0% doen om te 02:08:09.350 --> 02:08:09.360 align:start position:0% om te 02:08:09.360 --> 02:08:11.189 align:start position:0% om te laat <02:08:09.711>die <02:08:10.062>stelsel <02:08:10.413>jou <02:08:10.764>oor <02:08:11.115>'n 02:08:11.189 --> 02:08:11.199 align:start position:0% laat die stelsel jou oor 'n 02:08:11.199 --> 02:08:14.310 align:start position:0% laat die stelsel jou oor 'n jaar <02:08:11.479>oor 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<02:08:22.374>vraag, <02:08:22.705>want <02:08:23.036>die 02:08:23.550 --> 02:08:23.560 align:start position:0% dit is 'n baie moeilike vraag, want die 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:26.310 align:start position:0% dit is 'n baie moeilike vraag, want die sosiologiese 02:08:26.310 --> 02:08:26.320 align:start position:0% sosiologiese 02:08:26.320 --> 02:08:27.990 align:start position:0% sosiologiese norme <02:08:26.480>moet <02:08:26.640>beïnvloed <02:08:26.800>word 02:08:27.990 --> 02:08:28.000 align:start position:0% norme moet beïnvloed word 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:29.669 align:start position:0% norme moet beïnvloed word en <02:08:28.320>om 02:08:29.669 --> 02:08:29.679 align:start position:0% en om 02:08:29.679 --> 02:08:32.870 align:start position:0% en om um <02:08:30.063>vertrou <02:08:30.447>die <02:08:30.831>bronne <02:08:31.215>van <02:08:31.599>inligting 02:08:32.870 --> 02:08:32.880 align:start position:0% um vertrou die bronne van inligting 02:08:32.880 --> 02:08:35.030 align:start position:0% um vertrou die bronne van inligting wat <02:08:33.200>grootliks <02:08:33.520>deur <02:08:33.840>die <02:08:34.160>dwelmbedryf <02:08:34.480>beheer <02:08:34.800>word 02:08:35.030 --> 02:08:35.040 align:start position:0% wat grootliks deur die dwelmbedryf beheer word 02:08:35.040 --> 02:08:37.510 align:start position:0% wat grootliks deur die dwelmbedryf beheer word en <02:08:35.488>dis <02:08:35.936>hoekom <02:08:36.384>ek <02:08:36.832>geskryf <02:08:37.280>het 02:08:37.510 --> 02:08:37.520 align:start position:0% en dis hoekom ek geskryf het 02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:39.270 align:start position:0% en dis hoekom ek geskryf het siek <02:08:38.000>is <02:08:38.480>om 02:08:39.270 --> 02:08:39.280 align:start position:0% siek is om 02:08:39.280 --> 02:08:40.629 align:start position:0% siek is om 02:08:40.629 --> 02:08:40.639 align:start position:0% 02:08:40.639 --> 02:08:43.510 align:start position:0% om <02:08:42.159>daardie 02:08:43.510 --> 02:08:43.520 align:start position:0% om daardie 02:08:43.520 --> 02:08:45.910 align:start position:0% om daardie mense <02:08:43.799>in <02:08:44.078>die <02:08:44.357>mediese <02:08:44.636>beroep 02:08:45.910 --> 02:08:45.920 align:start position:0% mense in die mediese beroep 02:08:45.920 --> 02:08:48.310 align:start position:0% mense in die mediese beroep te <02:08:46.099>probeer <02:08:46.278>help <02:08:46.457>om <02:08:46.636>te <02:08:46.815>verstaan <02:08:46.994>dat <02:08:47.173>wat <02:08:47.352>op <02:08:47.531>die <02:08:47.710>oomblik <02:08:47.889>aangaan <02:08:48.068>norma 02:08:48.310 --> 02:08:48.320 align:start position:0% te probeer help om te verstaan dat wat op die oomblik aangaan norma 02:08:48.320 --> 02:08:50.470 align:start position:0% te probeer help om te verstaan dat wat op die oomblik aangaan norma l <02:08:48.920>lyk, <02:08:49.520>maar 02:08:50.470 --> 02:08:50.480 align:start position:0% l lyk, maar 02:08:50.480 --> 02:08:52.229 align:start position:0% l lyk, maar it <02:08:50.620>is <02:08:50.760>nie <02:08:50.900>die <02:08:51.040>g 02:08:52.229 --> 02:08:52.239 align:start position:0% it is nie die g 02:08:52.239 --> 02:08:53.990 align:start position:0% it is nie die g sondheid <02:08:52.599>van <02:08:52.959>Amerikaners <02:08:53.319>nie <02:08:53.679>gaan 02:08:53.990 --> 02:08:54.000 align:start position:0% sondheid van Amerikaners nie gaan 02:08:54.000 --> 02:08:55.350 align:start position:0% sondheid van Amerikaners nie gaan afdraand 02:08:55.350 --> 02:08:55.360 align:start position:0% afdraand 02:08:55.360 --> 02:08:57.189 align:start position:0% afdraand ons <02:08:55.711>samelewing <02:08:56.062>word <02:08:56.413>verwoes <02:08:56.764>deur <02:08:57.115>die 02:08:57.189 --> 02:08:57.199 align:start position:0% ons samelewing word verwoes deur die 02:08:57.199 --> 02:08:58.950 align:start position:0% ons samelewing word verwoes deur die geld <02:08:57.471>wat <02:08:57.743>getrek <02:08:58.015>word <02:08:58.287>uit <02:08:58.559>wat 02:08:58.950 --> 02:08:58.960 align:start position:0% geld wat getrek word uit wat 02:08:58.960 --> 02:09:00.310 align:start position:0% geld wat getrek word uit wat getrek <02:08:59.200>word <02:08:59.440>uit 02:09:00.310 --> 02:09:00.320 align:start position:0% getrek word uit 02:09:00.320 --> 02:09:01.510 align:start position:0% getrek word uit ander 02:09:01.510 --> 02:09:01.520 align:start position:0% ander 02:09:01.520 --> 02:09:02.629 align:start position:0% ander maatskaplike 02:09:02.629 --> 02:09:02.639 align:start position:0% maatskaplike 02:09:02.639 --> 02:09:05.030 align:start position:0% maatskaplike maatskaplik <02:09:03.319>voordelige <02:09:03.999>gebruike 02:09:05.030 --> 02:09:05.040 align:start position:0% maatskaplik voordelige gebruike 02:09:05.040 --> 02:09:07.669 align:start position:0% maatskaplik voordelige gebruike om <02:09:05.382>te <02:09:05.724>betaal <02:09:06.066>vir <02:09:06.408>gesondheidsorg <02:09:06.750>wat <02:09:07.092>ons <02:09:07.434>nie 02:09:07.669 --> 02:09:07.679 align:start position:0% om te betaal vir gesondheidsorg wat ons nie 02:09:07.679 --> 02:09:10.310 align:start position:0% om te betaal vir gesondheidsorg wat ons nie help <02:09:08.079>om 02:09:10.310 --> 02:09:10.320 align:start position:0% 02:09:10.320 --> 02:09:12.870 align:start position:0% so <02:09:10.426>te <02:09:10.532>finansier <02:09:10.638>nie 02:09:12.870 --> 02:09:12.880 align:start position:0% so te finansier nie 02:09:12.880 --> 02:09:15.430 align:start position:0% so te finansier nie die <02:09:13.079>ding <02:09:13.278>wat <02:09:13.477>normaal <02:09:13.676>is, 02:09:15.430 --> 02:09:15.440 align:start position:0% die ding wat normaal is, 02:09:15.440 --> 02:09:17.350 align:start position:0% die ding wat normaal is, bevraagteken <02:09:15.840>nie 02:09:17.350 --> 02:09:17.360 align:start position:0% bevraagteken nie 02:09:17.360 --> 02:09:19.350 align:start position:0% bevraagteken nie die <02:09:17.920>normale <02:09:18.480>nie, 02:09:19.350 --> 02:09:19.360 align:start position:0% die normale nie, 02:09:19.360 --> 02:09:22.069 align:start position:0% die normale nie, uh <02:09:19.706>as <02:09:20.052>jy <02:09:20.398>konformeer, 02:09:22.069 --> 02:09:22.079 align:start position:0% uh as jy konformeer, 02:09:22.079 --> 02:09:24.470 align:start position:0% uh as jy konformeer, konformeer <02:09:22.719>huiwerig 02:09:24.470 --> 02:09:24.480 align:start position:0% konformeer huiwerig 02:09:24.480 --> 02:09:26.390 align:start position:0% konformeer huiwerig goed, <02:09:24.759>jy <02:09:25.038>moet <02:09:25.317>konformeer, <02:09:25.596>jy <02:09:25.875>kan <02:09:26.154>nie 02:09:26.390 --> 02:09:26.400 align:start position:0% goed, jy moet konformeer, jy kan nie 02:09:26.400 --> 02:09:29.750 align:start position:0% goed, jy moet konformeer, jy kan nie 'n <02:09:26.737>dokter <02:09:27.074>word <02:09:27.411>sonder <02:09:27.748>om <02:09:28.085>te <02:09:28.422>konformeer <02:09:28.759>nie. <02:09:29.096>Um <02:09:29.433>i 02:09:29.750 --> 02:09:29.760 align:start position:0% 'n dokter word sonder om te konformeer nie. Um i 02:09:29.760 --> 02:09:30.950 align:start position:0% 'n dokter word sonder om te konformeer nie. Um i 02:09:30.950 --> 02:09:30.960 align:start position:0% 02:09:30.960 --> 02:09:35.030 align:start position:0% i <02:09:31.180>ek <02:09:31.400>het <02:09:31.620>pas <02:09:31.840>deurgekom, 02:09:35.030 --> 02:09:35.040 align:start position:0% 02:09:35.040 --> 02:09:35.830 align:start position:0% maar 02:09:35.830 --> 02:09:35.840 align:start position:0% maar 02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:38.870 align:start position:0% maar daar <02:09:36.088>is <02:09:36.336>nie <02:09:36.584>baie <02:09:36.832>nie <02:09:37.080>en <02:09:37.328>dit <02:09:37.576>is <02:09:37.824>harde <02:09:38.072>werk 02:09:38.870 --> 02:09:38.880 align:start position:0% daar is nie baie nie en dit is harde werk 02:09:38.880 --> 02:09:39.910 align:start position:0% daar is nie baie nie en dit is harde werk um, 02:09:39.910 --> 02:09:39.920 align:start position:0% um, 02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:40.709 align:start position:0% um, maar 02:09:40.709 --> 02:09:40.719 align:start position:0% maar 02:09:40.719 --> 02:09:43.270 align:start position:0% maar jy <02:09:41.105>moet <02:09:41.491>konformeer <02:09:41.877>en <02:09:42.263>selfs <02:09:42.649>met <02:09:43.035>my 02:09:43.270 --> 02:09:43.280 align:start position:0% jy moet konformeer en selfs met my 02:09:43.280 --> 02:09:45.910 align:start position:0% jy moet konformeer en selfs met my kollegas <02:09:43.530>in <02:09:43.780>my <02:09:44.030>eie <02:09:44.280>praktyk <02:09:44.530>kon <02:09:44.780>ek <02:09:45.030>hulle <02:09:45.280>nie 02:09:45.910 --> 02:09:45.920 align:start position:0% kollegas in my eie praktyk kon ek hulle nie 02:09:45.920 --> 02:09:47.270 align:start position:0% kollegas in my eie praktyk kon ek hulle nie oortuig 02:09:47.270 --> 02:09:47.280 align:start position:0% oortuig 02:09:47.280 --> 02:09:48.870 align:start position:0% oortuig dat <02:09:47.431>sommige <02:09:47.582>van <02:09:47.733>die <02:09:47.884>oortuigings <02:09:48.035>wat <02:09:48.186>hulle <02:09:48.337>gehad <02:09:48.488>het <02:09:48.639>oor 02:09:48.870 --> 02:09:48.880 align:start position:0% dat sommige van die oortuigings wat hulle gehad het oor 02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:50.550 align:start position:0% dat sommige van die oortuigings wat hulle gehad het oor hoe <02:09:49.020>om <02:09:49.160>die <02:09:49.300>beste <02:09:49.440>te 02:09:50.550 --> 02:09:50.560 align:start position:0% hoe om die beste te 02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:53.589 align:start position:0% hoe om die beste te oefen <02:09:50.688>nie <02:09:50.816>akkuraat <02:09:50.944>was <02:09:51.072>nie, <02:09:51.200>daar <02:09:51.328>is <02:09:51.456>een <02:09:51.584>toneel <02:09:51.712>wat <02:09:51.840>' 02:09:53.589 --> 02:09:53.599 align:start position:0% oefen nie akkuraat was nie, daar is een toneel wat ' 02:09:53.599 --> 02:09:56.470 align:start position:0% oefen nie akkuraat was nie, daar is een toneel wat ' n <02:09:54.639>jonger <02:09:55.679>dokter 02:09:56.470 --> 02:09:56.480 align:start position:0% n jonger dokter 02:09:56.480 --> 02:09:58.790 align:start position:0% n jonger dokter hierdie <02:09:56.896>keer <02:09:57.312>hormoonvervangingsterapie <02:09:57.728>voorgeskryf <02:09:58.144>het <02:09:58.560>in 02:09:58.790 --> 02:09:58.800 align:start position:0% hierdie keer hormoonvervangingsterapie voorgeskryf het in 02:09:58.800 --> 02:10:01.430 align:start position:0% hierdie keer hormoonvervangingsterapie voorgeskryf het in 2000 <02:09:59.360>het <02:09:59.920>2001 <02:10:00.480>hormoonvervangingsterapie <02:10:01.040>voorgeskryf 02:10:01.430 --> 02:10:01.440 align:start position:0% 2000 het 2001 hormoonvervangingsterapie voorgeskryf 02:10:01.440 --> 02:10:03.589 align:start position:0% 2000 het 2001 hormoonvervangingsterapie voorgeskryf vir <02:10:02.026>een <02:10:02.612>van <02:10:03.198>my 02:10:03.589 --> 02:10:03.599 align:start position:0% vir een van my 02:10:03.599 --> 02:10:05.910 align:start position:0% vir een van my pasiënte <02:10:04.099>wat <02:10:04.599>toevallig <02:10:05.099>'n <02:10:05.599>baie 02:10:05.910 --> 02:10:05.920 align:start position:0% pasiënte wat toevallig 'n baie 02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:07.990 align:start position:0% pasiënte wat toevallig 'n baie goeie <02:10:06.124>persoonlike <02:10:06.328>vriend <02:10:06.532>was <02:10:06.736>en <02:10:06.940>ek <02:10:07.144>het <02:10:07.348>gesien <02:10:07.552>dat <02:10:07.756>daardie 02:10:07.990 --> 02:10:08.000 align:start position:0% goeie persoonlike vriend was en ek het gesien dat daardie 02:10:08.000 --> 02:10:09.189 align:start position:0% goeie persoonlike vriend was en ek het gesien dat daardie pasiënt 02:10:09.189 --> 02:10:09.199 align:start position:0% pasiënt 02:10:09.199 --> 02:10:10.390 align:start position:0% pasiënt 02:10:10.390 --> 02:10:12.149 align:start position:0% 02:10:12.149 --> 02:10:12.159 align:start position:0% 02:10:12.159 --> 02:10:14.629 align:start position:0% op <02:10:12.348>'n <02:10:12.537>stadium <02:10:12.726>vir <02:10:12.915>my <02:10:13.104>kollega <02:10:13.293>dek <02:10:13.482>en <02:10:13.671>ek <02:10:13.860>het <02:10:14.049>gesien <02:10:14.238>dat 02:10:14.629 --> 02:10:14.639 align:start position:0% op 'n stadium vir my kollega dek en ek het gesien dat 02:10:14.639 --> 02:10:17.109 align:start position:0% op 'n stadium vir my kollega dek en ek het gesien dat haar <02:10:15.332>hormoonvervangingsterapie <02:10:16.025>hernu <02:10:16.718>is 02:10:17.109 --> 02:10:17.119 align:start position:0% haar hormoonvervangingsterapie hernu is 02:10:17.119 --> 02:10:18.950 align:start position:0% haar hormoonvervangingsterapie hernu is en <02:10:17.299>ek <02:10:17.479>het <02:10:17.659>gesê <02:10:17.839>jy <02:10:18.019>het <02:10:18.199>warm <02:10:18.379>gloede <02:10:18.559>of 02:10:18.950 --> 02:10:18.960 align:start position:0% en ek het gesê jy het warm gloede of 02:10:18.960 --> 02:10:22.550 align:start position:0% en ek het gesê jy het warm gloede of enige <02:10:19.312>probleem <02:10:19.664>nee <02:10:20.016>nee <02:10:20.368>nee <02:10:20.720>nee <02:10:21.072>maar <02:10:21.424>uh <02:10:21.776>dr <02:10:22.128>so <02:10:22.480>en 02:10:22.550 --> 02:10:22.560 align:start position:0% enige probleem nee nee nee nee maar uh dr so en 02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:25.030 align:start position:0% enige probleem nee nee nee nee maar uh dr so en so <02:10:22.749>het <02:10:22.938>gesê <02:10:23.127>dit <02:10:23.316>is <02:10:23.505>beter <02:10:23.694>vir <02:10:23.883>my <02:10:24.072>gesondheid 02:10:25.030 --> 02:10:25.040 align:start position:0% so het gesê dit is beter vir my gesondheid 02:10:25.040 --> 02:10:27.430 align:start position:0% so het gesê dit is beter vir my gesondheid en <02:10:25.297>ek <02:10:25.554>het <02:10:25.811>gesê <02:10:26.068>nee <02:10:26.325>dit <02:10:26.582>is <02:10:26.839>nie <02:10:27.096>die <02:10:27.353>navorsing 02:10:27.430 --> 02:10:27.440 align:start position:0% en ek het gesê nee dit is nie die navorsing 02:10:27.440 --> 02:10:28.950 align:start position:0% en ek het gesê nee dit is nie die navorsing wys <02:10:27.600>dat <02:10:27.760>dit <02:10:27.920>nie <02:10:28.080>is <02:10:28.240>nie <02:10:28.400>dit <02:10:28.560>is <02:10:28.720>skadelik <02:10:28.880>vir 02:10:28.950 --> 02:10:28.960 align:start position:0% wys dat dit nie is nie dit is skadelik vir 02:10:28.960 --> 02:10:30.310 align:start position:0% wys dat dit nie is nie dit is skadelik vir jou <02:10:29.090>gesondheid <02:10:29.220>en <02:10:29.350>ek <02:10:29.480>dink <02:10:29.610>jy <02:10:29.740>moet <02:10:29.870>dit <02:10:30.000>stop 02:10:30.310 --> 02:10:30.320 align:start position:0% jou gesondheid en ek dink jy moet dit stop 02:10:30.320 --> 02:10:31.270 align:start position:0% jou gesondheid en ek dink jy moet dit stop 02:10:31.270 --> 02:10:31.280 align:start position:0% 02:10:31.280 --> 02:10:33.270 align:start position:0% so <02:10:31.759>my <02:10:32.238>kollega 02:10:33.270 --> 02:10:33.280 align:start position:0% so my kollega 02:10:33.280 --> 02:10:35.830 align:start position:0% so my kollega het <02:10:33.590>my <02:10:33.900>genader <02:10:34.210>toe <02:10:34.520>sy <02:10:34.830>die <02:10:35.140>grafiek <02:10:35.450>sien <02:10:35.760>en 02:10:35.830 --> 02:10:35.840 align:start position:0% het my genader toe sy die grafiek sien en 02:10:35.840 --> 02:10:37.990 align:start position:0% het my genader toe sy die grafiek sien en gesê <02:10:36.053>wag <02:10:36.266>'n <02:10:36.479>bietjie <02:10:36.692>dis <02:10:36.905>my <02:10:37.118>pasiënt 02:10:37.990 --> 02:10:38.000 align:start position:0% gesê wag 'n bietjie dis my pasiënt 02:10:38.000 --> 02:10:40.470 align:start position:0% gesê wag 'n bietjie dis my pasiënt dalk <02:10:38.205>jou <02:10:38.410>vriend <02:10:38.615>maar <02:10:38.820>dit <02:10:39.025>is <02:10:39.230>my <02:10:39.435>pasiënt 02:10:40.470 --> 02:10:40.480 align:start position:0% dalk jou vriend maar dit is my pasiënt 02:10:40.480 --> 02:10:43.750 align:start position:0% dalk jou vriend maar dit is my pasiënt en <02:10:40.811>ek <02:10:41.142>het <02:10:41.473>na <02:10:41.804>'n <02:10:42.135>konferensie <02:10:42.466>by <02:10:42.797>my 02:10:43.750 --> 02:10:43.760 align:start position:0% en ek het na 'n konferensie by my 02:10:43.760 --> 02:10:44.709 align:start position:0% en ek het na 'n konferensie by my van 02:10:44.709 --> 02:10:44.719 align:start position:0% van 02:10:44.719 --> 02:10:47.830 align:start position:0% van my <02:10:45.107>alma <02:10:45.495>mater <02:10:45.883>mediese <02:10:46.271>skool <02:10:46.659>gegaan <02:10:47.047>en <02:10:47.435>hulle 02:10:47.830 --> 02:10:47.840 align:start position:0% my alma mater mediese skool gegaan en hulle 02:10:47.840 --> 02:10:49.589 align:start position:0% my alma mater mediese skool gegaan en hulle het <02:10:48.045>gesê <02:10:48.250>dat <02:10:48.455>gesonde <02:10:48.660>mense <02:10:48.865>hormoonvervanging <02:10:49.070>moet <02:10:49.275>kry 02:10:49.589 --> 02:10:51.189 align:start position:0% het gesê dat gesonde mense hormoonvervanging moet kry 02:10:51.189 --> 02:10:51.199 align:start position:0% 02:10:51.199 --> 02:10:53.350 align:start position:0% en <02:10:51.567>ek <02:10:51.935>het <02:10:52.303>gesê <02:10:52.671>daar <02:10:53.039>moet 02:10:53.350 --> 02:10:53.360 align:start position:0% en ek het gesê daar moet 02:10:53.360 --> 02:10:55.589 align:start position:0% en ek het gesê daar moet dwelmmaatskappye <02:10:53.657>hierby <02:10:53.954>betrokke <02:10:54.251>wees <02:10:54.548>en <02:10:54.845>sy <02:10:55.142>het <02:10:55.439>gesê 02:10:55.589 --> 02:10:55.599 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye hierby betrokke wees en sy het gesê 02:10:55.599 --> 02:10:58.310 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappye hierby betrokke wees en sy het gesê nee <02:10:55.839>nee <02:10:56.079>nee <02:10:56.319>dit <02:10:56.559>was <02:10:56.799>by <02:10:57.039>my <02:10:57.279>universiteit <02:10:57.519>dit <02:10:57.759>was 02:10:58.310 --> 02:10:58.320 align:start position:0% nee nee nee dit was by my universiteit dit was 02:10:58.320 --> 02:10:59.910 align:start position:0% nee nee nee dit was by my universiteit dit was dit <02:10:58.500>was <02:10:58.680>nie <02:10:58.860>'n <02:10:59.040>medisyne <02:10:59.220>maatskappy <02:10:59.400>nie <02:10:59.580>ding <02:10:59.760>ons 02:10:59.910 --> 02:10:59.920 align:start position:0% dit was nie 'n medisyne maatskappy nie ding ons 02:10:59.920 --> 02:11:02.550 align:start position:0% dit was nie 'n medisyne maatskappy nie ding ons het <02:11:00.160>nie <02:11:00.400>na <02:11:00.640>'n <02:11:00.880>Karibiese <02:11:01.120>eiland <02:11:01.360>gegaan <02:11:01.600>nie <02:11:01.840>Ek <02:11:02.080>het <02:11:02.320>gesê, 02:11:02.550 --> 02:11:02.560 align:start position:0% het nie na 'n Karibiese eiland gegaan nie Ek het gesê, 02:11:02.560 --> 02:11:05.030 align:start position:0% het nie na 'n Karibiese eiland gegaan nie Ek het gesê, het <02:11:02.769>jy <02:11:02.978>die <02:11:03.187>sillabus <02:11:03.396>wat <02:11:03.605>sy <02:11:03.814>gesê <02:11:04.023>het <02:11:04.232>ja 02:11:05.030 --> 02:11:05.040 align:start position:0% het jy die sillabus wat sy gesê het ja 02:11:05.040 --> 02:11:07.030 align:start position:0% het jy die sillabus wat sy gesê het ja en <02:11:05.268>sy <02:11:05.496>het <02:11:05.724>die <02:11:05.952>sillabus <02:11:06.180>gaan <02:11:06.408>haal <02:11:06.636>en 02:11:07.030 --> 02:11:07.040 align:start position:0% en sy het die sillabus gaan haal en 02:11:07.040 --> 02:11:08.790 align:start position:0% en sy het die sillabus gaan haal en sekerlik <02:11:07.344>is <02:11:07.648>dit <02:11:07.952>geborg <02:11:08.256>deur <02:11:08.560>'n 02:11:08.790 --> 02:11:08.800 align:start position:0% sekerlik is dit geborg deur 'n 02:11:08.800 --> 02:11:11.510 align:start position:0% sekerlik is dit geborg deur 'n dwelmmaatskappy <02:11:09.279>hulle <02:11:09.758>is <02:11:10.237>oral <02:11:10.716>waar <02:11:11.195>hulle 02:11:11.510 --> 02:11:11.520 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappy hulle is oral waar hulle 02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:14.149 align:start position:0% dwelmmaatskappy hulle is oral waar hulle oral <02:11:11.817>is <02:11:12.114>en <02:11:12.411>dis <02:11:12.708>terug <02:11:13.005>na <02:11:13.302>coon <02:11:13.599>dat 02:11:14.149 --> 02:11:14.159 align:start position:0% oral is en dis terug na coon dat 02:11:14.159 --> 02:11:16.390 align:start position:0% oral is en dis terug na coon dat groepe <02:11:15.119>kundiges 02:11:16.390 --> 02:11:16.400 align:start position:0% groepe kundiges 02:11:16.400 --> 02:11:17.270 align:start position:0% groepe kundiges 02:11:17.270 --> 02:11:17.280 align:start position:0% 02:11:17.280 --> 02:11:19.750 align:start position:0% onuitgesproke <02:11:17.679>aannames <02:11:18.078>deel 02:11:19.750 --> 02:11:19.760 align:start position:0% onuitgesproke aannames deel 02:11:19.760 --> 02:11:21.910 align:start position:0% onuitgesproke aannames deel en <02:11:19.941>in <02:11:20.122>orde <02:11:20.303>om <02:11:20.484>by <02:11:20.665>daardie <02:11:20.846>groep <02:11:21.027>kundiges <02:11:21.208>ingesluit <02:11:21.389>te <02:11:21.570>word, <02:11:21.751>moet 02:11:21.910 --> 02:11:21.920 align:start position:0% en in orde om by daardie groep kundiges ingesluit te word, moet 02:11:21.920 --> 02:11:23.669 align:start position:0% en in orde om by daardie groep kundiges ingesluit te word, moet jy <02:11:23.360>daardie 02:11:23.669 --> 02:11:23.679 align:start position:0% jy daardie 02:11:23.679 --> 02:11:26.229 align:start position:0% jy daardie onuitgesproke <02:11:24.052>aannames <02:11:24.425>deel <02:11:24.798>en <02:11:25.171>wat <02:11:25.544>ek <02:11:25.917>hoop 02:11:26.229 --> 02:11:26.239 align:start position:0% onuitgesproke aannames deel en wat ek hoop 02:11:26.239 --> 02:11:28.709 align:start position:0% onuitgesproke aannames deel en wat ek hoop om <02:11:26.470>te <02:11:26.701>doen <02:11:26.932>met <02:11:27.163>my <02:11:27.394>boek <02:11:27.625>wat <02:11:27.856>siek <02:11:28.087>is <02:11:28.318>en 02:11:28.709 --> 02:11:28.719 align:start position:0% om te doen met my boek wat siek is en 02:11:28.719 --> 02:11:30.790 align:start position:0% om te doen met my boek wat siek is en hier <02:11:29.007>is <02:11:29.295>om <02:11:29.583>hierdie <02:11:29.871>wonderlike <02:11:30.159>gesprek 02:11:30.790 --> 02:11:30.800 align:start position:0% hier is om hierdie wonderlike gesprek 02:11:30.800 --> 02:11:31.830 align:start position:0% hier is om hierdie wonderlike gesprek met <02:11:30.853>jou <02:11:30.906>te <02:11:30.959>hê, 02:11:31.830 --> 02:11:31.840 align:start position:0% met jou te hê, 02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:34.950 align:start position:0% met jou te hê, is <02:11:32.115>om <02:11:32.390>'n <02:11:32.665>alternatiewe <02:11:32.940>t <02:11:33.215>te <02:11:33.490>skep <02:11:33.765>o <02:11:34.040>dit <02:11:34.315>is 02:11:34.950 --> 02:11:34.960 align:start position:0% is om 'n alternatiewe t te skep o dit is 02:11:34.960 --> 02:11:36.149 align:start position:0% is om 'n alternatiewe t te skep o dit is normaal 02:11:36.149 --> 02:11:36.159 align:start position:0% normaal 02:11:36.159 --> 02:11:37.510 align:start position:0% normaal dat 02:11:37.510 --> 02:11:37.520 align:start position:0% dat 02:11:37.520 --> 02:11:39.430 align:start position:0% dat mense <02:11:37.706>beter <02:11:37.892>medisyne <02:11:38.078>kan 02:11:39.430 --> 02:11:39.440 align:start position:0% mense beter medisyne kan 02:11:39.440 --> 02:11:41.109 align:start position:0% mense beter medisyne kan nastreef 02:11:41.109 --> 02:11:41.119 align:start position:0% nastreef 02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:42.950 align:start position:0% nastreef en 02:11:42.950 --> 02:11:42.960 align:start position:0% en 02:11:42.960 --> 02:11:44.950 align:start position:0% en beoefen 02:11:44.950 --> 02:11:44.960 align:start position:0% beoefen 02:11:44.960 --> 02:11:47.669 align:start position:0% beoefen en <02:11:45.270>ook <02:11:45.580>uitbranding <02:11:45.890>kan <02:11:46.200>voorkom <02:11:46.510>ek <02:11:46.820>bedoel <02:11:47.130>ongeveer <02:11:47.440>die 02:11:47.669 --> 02:11:47.679 align:start position:0% en ook uitbranding kan voorkom ek bedoel ongeveer die 02:11:47.679 --> 02:11:49.510 align:start position:0% en ook uitbranding kan voorkom ek bedoel ongeveer die helfte <02:11:47.959>van <02:11:48.239>die <02:11:48.519>dokters <02:11:48.799>kla <02:11:49.079>dat <02:11:49.359>hulle 02:11:49.510 --> 02:11:49.520 align:start position:0% helfte van die dokters kla dat hulle 02:11:49.520 --> 02:11:52.229 align:start position:0% helfte van die dokters kla dat hulle uitgebrand <02:11:49.810>is <02:11:50.100>en <02:11:50.390>hulle <02:11:50.680>het <02:11:50.970>dit <02:11:51.260>gehad <02:11:51.550>en <02:11:51.840>ek 02:11:52.229 --> 02:11:52.239 align:start position:0% uitgebrand is en hulle het dit gehad en ek 02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:54.310 align:start position:0% uitgebrand is en hulle het dit gehad en ek dink <02:11:52.559>dit <02:11:52.879>is <02:11:53.199>'n <02:11:53.519>subjektiewe <02:11:53.839>ek <02:11:54.159>het 02:11:54.310 --> 02:11:54.320 align:start position:0% dink dit is 'n subjektiewe ek het 02:11:54.320 --> 02:11:55.910 align:start position:0% dink dit is 'n subjektiewe ek het nie <02:11:54.514>data <02:11:54.708>hieroor <02:11:54.902>nie <02:11:55.096>dit <02:11:55.290>is <02:11:55.484>net <02:11:55.678>my 02:11:55.910 --> 02:11:55.920 align:start position:0% nie data hieroor nie dit is net my 02:11:55.920 --> 02:11:58.790 align:start position:0% nie data hieroor nie dit is net my opinie <02:11:56.319>um, <02:11:56.718>maar <02:11:57.117>ek <02:11:57.516>dink <02:11:57.915>dat <02:11:58.314>baie <02:11:58.713>van 02:11:58.790 --> 02:11:58.800 align:start position:0% opinie um, maar ek dink dat baie van 02:11:58.800 --> 02:12:02.310 align:start position:0% opinie um, maar ek dink dat baie van daardie <02:11:59.312>uitbranding <02:11:59.824>sogenaamde <02:12:00.336>morele <02:12:00.848>besering <02:12:01.360>is 02:12:02.310 --> 02:12:02.320 align:start position:0% daardie uitbranding sogenaamde morele besering is 02:12:02.320 --> 02:12:05.589 align:start position:0% daardie uitbranding sogenaamde morele besering is deur <02:12:02.653>te <02:12:02.986>oefen <02:12:03.319>op <02:12:03.652>'n <02:12:03.985>manier <02:12:04.318>wat 02:12:05.589 --> 02:12:05.599 align:start position:0% deur te oefen op 'n manier wat 02:12:05.599 --> 02:12:08.310 align:start position:0% deur te oefen op 'n manier wat die <02:12:06.019>dokters <02:12:06.439>weet <02:12:06.859>nie <02:12:07.279>werk 02:12:08.310 --> 02:12:08.320 align:start position:0% die dokters weet nie werk 02:12:08.320 --> 02:12:10.310 align:start position:0% die dokters weet nie werk nie, <02:12:08.546>dit <02:12:08.772>bied <02:12:08.998>nie <02:12:09.224>eintlik <02:12:09.450>'n <02:12:09.676>uh 02:12:10.310 --> 02:12:10.320 align:start position:0% nie, dit bied nie eintlik 'n uh 02:12:10.320 --> 02:12:12.390 align:start position:0% nie, dit bied nie eintlik 'n uh alternatief <02:12:10.600>vir <02:12:10.880>die <02:12:11.160>normale <02:12:11.440>nie, <02:12:11.720>dit <02:12:12.000>brei 02:12:12.390 --> 02:12:12.400 align:start position:0% alternatief vir die normale nie, dit brei 02:12:12.400 --> 02:12:13.910 align:start position:0% alternatief vir die normale nie, dit brei die <02:12:12.594>normale <02:12:12.788>uit <02:12:12.982>dit <02:12:13.176>skuif <02:12:13.370>die <02:12:13.564>normale <02:12:13.758>net 02:12:13.910 --> 02:12:13.920 align:start position:0% die normale uit dit skuif die normale net 02:12:13.920 --> 02:12:16.069 align:start position:0% die normale uit dit skuif die normale net soos <02:12:14.159>met <02:12:14.398>kuhn <02:12:14.637>ek <02:12:14.876>bedoel <02:12:15.115>jy <02:12:15.354>soek <02:12:15.593>basies 02:12:16.069 --> 02:12:18.470 align:start position:0% soos met kuhn ek bedoel jy soek basies 02:12:18.470 --> 02:12:18.480 align:start position:0% 02:12:18.480 --> 02:12:20.629 align:start position:0% om <02:12:18.826>die <02:12:19.172>manier <02:12:19.518>waarop 02:12:20.629 --> 02:12:20.639 align:start position:0% om die manier waarop 02:12:20.639 --> 02:12:22.229 align:start position:0% om die manier waarop medisyne <02:12:20.799>gedoen <02:12:20.959>word <02:12:21.119>te <02:12:21.279>verskuif 02:12:22.229 --> 02:12:22.239 align:start position:0% medisyne gedoen word te verskuif 02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:23.830 align:start position:0% medisyne gedoen word te verskuif na <02:12:22.399>die <02:12:22.559>oorspronklike 02:12:23.830 --> 02:12:23.840 align:start position:0% na die oorspronklike 02:12:23.840 --> 02:12:25.589 align:start position:0% na die oorspronklike ek <02:12:24.020>bedoel <02:12:24.200>na <02:12:24.380>die <02:12:24.560>bedoeling 02:12:25.589 --> 02:12:25.599 align:start position:0% ek bedoel na die bedoeling 02:12:25.599 --> 02:12:28.069 align:start position:0% ek bedoel na die bedoeling dat <02:12:26.047>dit <02:12:26.495>verteenwoordig <02:12:26.943>dat <02:12:27.391>die <02:12:27.839>die 02:12:28.069 --> 02:12:28.079 align:start position:0% dat dit verteenwoordig dat die die 02:12:28.079 --> 02:12:31.109 align:start position:0% dat dit verteenwoordig dat die die ideaal <02:12:28.519>van <02:12:28.959>medisyne <02:12:29.399>van <02:12:29.839>gesondheidsorg <02:12:30.279>ja <02:12:30.719>in 02:12:31.109 --> 02:12:31.119 align:start position:0% ideaal van medisyne van gesondheidsorg ja in 02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:33.589 align:start position:0% ideaal van medisyne van gesondheidsorg ja in cuny <02:12:31.519>in <02:12:31.919>terme <02:12:32.319>om <02:12:32.719>'n <02:12:33.119>revolusie <02:12:33.519>en 02:12:33.589 --> 02:12:33.599 align:start position:0% cuny in terme om 'n revolusie en 02:12:33.599 --> 02:12:35.430 align:start position:0% cuny in terme om 'n revolusie en daardie <02:12:33.972>revolusie <02:12:34.345>sou <02:12:34.718>wees 02:12:35.430 --> 02:12:35.440 align:start position:0% daardie revolusie sou wees 02:12:35.440 --> 02:12:38.069 align:start position:0% daardie revolusie sou wees om <02:12:35.794>medisyne <02:12:36.148>te <02:12:36.502>beoefen <02:12:36.856>op <02:12:37.210>'n <02:12:37.564>manier <02:12:37.918>wat 02:12:38.069 --> 02:12:38.079 align:start position:0% om medisyne te beoefen op 'n manier wat 02:12:38.079 --> 02:12:39.069 align:start position:0% om medisyne te beoefen op 'n manier wat 02:12:39.069 --> 02:12:39.079 align:start position:0% 02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:41.669 align:start position:0% epidemiologies <02:12:39.375>die <02:12:39.671>mees <02:12:39.967>doeltreffende <02:12:40.263>sal <02:12:40.559>wees, 02:12:41.669 --> 02:12:41.679 align:start position:0% epidemiologies die mees doeltreffende sal wees, 02:12:41.679 --> 02:12:43.830 align:start position:0% epidemiologies die mees doeltreffende sal wees, nie <02:12:42.047>die <02:12:42.415>winsgewendste <02:12:42.783>vir <02:12:43.151>die <02:12:43.519>mense 02:12:43.830 --> 02:12:43.840 align:start position:0% nie die winsgewendste vir die mense 02:12:43.840 --> 02:12:46.069 align:start position:0% nie die winsgewendste vir die mense wat <02:12:44.160>jou <02:12:44.480>voorsien <02:12:44.800>van <02:12:45.120>wat <02:12:45.440>genoem <02:12:45.760>word 02:12:46.069 --> 02:12:46.079 align:start position:0% wat jou voorsien van wat genoem word 02:12:46.079 --> 02:12:47.270 align:start position:0% wat jou voorsien van wat genoem word kennis, 02:12:47.270 --> 02:12:47.280 align:start position:0% kennis, 02:12:47.280 --> 02:12:49.990 align:start position:0% kennis, jy <02:12:47.490>het <02:12:47.700>baie <02:12:47.910>mense <02:12:48.120>gehelp <02:12:48.330>as <02:12:48.540>'n <02:12:48.750>dokter <02:12:48.960>r 02:12:49.990 --> 02:12:50.000 align:start position:0% jy het baie mense gehelp as 'n dokter r 02:12:50.000 --> 02:12:53.109 align:start position:0% jy het baie mense gehelp as 'n dokter r as <02:12:50.160>'n <02:12:50.320>opvoeder 02:12:53.109 --> 02:12:53.119 align:start position:0% 02:12:53.119 --> 02:12:56.390 align:start position:0% leef <02:12:53.579>beter <02:12:54.039>lewens <02:12:54.499>leef <02:12:54.959>langer, 02:12:56.390 --> 02:12:56.400 align:start position:0% leef beter lewens leef langer, 02:12:56.400 --> 02:12:58.950 align:start position:0% leef beter lewens leef langer, maar <02:12:56.626>jy <02:12:56.852>self <02:12:57.078>is <02:12:57.304>'n <02:12:57.530>sterflike <02:12:57.756>wese 02:12:58.950 --> 02:12:58.960 align:start position:0% maar jy self is 'n sterflike wese 02:12:58.960 --> 02:13:00.629 align:start position:0% maar jy self is 'n sterflike wese dink <02:12:59.240>jy <02:12:59.520>aan 02:13:00.629 --> 02:13:00.639 align:start position:0% dink jy aan 02:13:00.639 --> 02:13:02.790 align:start position:0% dink jy aan jou <02:13:01.007>eie <02:13:01.375>sterflikheid <02:13:01.743>dink <02:13:02.111>jy <02:13:02.479>aan 02:13:02.790 --> 02:13:02.800 align:start position:0% jou eie sterflikheid dink jy aan 02:13:02.800 --> 02:13:04.709 align:start position:0% jou eie sterflikheid dink jy aan jou <02:13:03.020>dood <02:13:03.240>is <02:13:03.460>jy <02:13:03.680>bang <02:13:03.900>vir <02:13:04.120>die <02:13:04.340>dood <02:13:04.560>o 02:13:04.709 --> 02:13:04.719 align:start position:0% jou dood is jy bang vir die dood o 02:13:04.719 --> 02:13:05.830 align:start position:0% jou dood is jy bang vir die dood o ja <02:13:04.960>um 02:13:05.830 --> 02:13:05.840 align:start position:0% ja um 02:13:05.840 --> 02:13:10.470 align:start position:0% ja um ek <02:13:06.111>is <02:13:06.382>nie <02:13:06.653>ek <02:13:06.924>het <02:13:07.195>dit 02:13:10.470 --> 02:13:10.480 align:start position:0% 02:13:10.480 --> 02:13:12.069 align:start position:0% in <02:13:10.539>die <02:13:10.598>gesig <02:13:10.657>gestaar <02:13:10.716>was 02:13:12.069 --> 02:13:12.079 align:start position:0% in die gesig gestaar was 02:13:12.079 --> 02:13:13.589 align:start position:0% in die gesig gestaar was jouself <02:13:12.399>naby <02:13:12.719>ja 02:13:13.589 --> 02:13:13.599 align:start position:0% jouself naby ja 02:13:13.599 --> 02:13:14.790 align:start position:0% jouself naby ja ja 02:13:14.790 --> 02:13:14.800 align:start position:0% ja 02:13:14.800 --> 02:13:16.950 align:start position:0% ja hoe <02:13:15.146>dink <02:13:15.492>jy <02:13:15.838>daaroor <02:13:16.184>watter <02:13:16.530>wysheid <02:13:16.876>kry 02:13:16.950 --> 02:13:16.960 align:start position:0% hoe dink jy daaroor watter wysheid kry 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:19.589 align:start position:0% hoe dink jy daaroor watter wysheid kry jy <02:13:17.222>om <02:13:17.484>naby <02:13:17.746>aan <02:13:18.008>die <02:13:18.270>dood <02:13:18.532>te <02:13:18.794>kom, 02:13:19.589 --> 02:13:19.599 align:start position:0% jy om naby aan die dood te kom, 02:13:19.599 --> 02:13:23.030 align:start position:0% jy om naby aan die dood te kom, o <02:13:19.816>die <02:13:20.033>feit <02:13:20.250>dat <02:13:20.467>die <02:13:20.684>hele <02:13:20.901>ding <02:13:21.118>eindig 02:13:23.030 --> 02:13:23.040 align:start position:0% o die feit dat die hele ding eindig 02:13:23.040 --> 02:13:25.669 align:start position:0% o die feit dat die hele ding eindig dis <02:13:23.280>bevrydend 02:13:25.669 --> 02:13:25.679 align:start position:0% dis bevrydend 02:13:25.679 --> 02:13:27.350 align:start position:0% dis bevrydend dit <02:13:25.829>is <02:13:25.979>baie <02:13:26.129>bevrydend <02:13:26.279>ek <02:13:26.429>bedoel <02:13:26.579>ek <02:13:26.729>is <02:13:26.879>ernstig 02:13:27.350 --> 02:13:27.360 align:start position:0% dit is baie bevrydend ek bedoel ek is ernstig 02:13:27.360 --> 02:13:29.430 align:start position:0% dit is baie bevrydend ek bedoel ek is ernstig ek <02:13:27.799>was <02:13:28.238>naby 02:13:29.430 --> 02:13:29.440 align:start position:0% ek was naby 02:13:29.440 --> 02:13:31.830 align:start position:0% ek was naby en <02:13:29.660>nie <02:13:29.880>te <02:13:30.100>lank <02:13:30.320>gelede 02:13:31.830 --> 02:13:31.840 align:start position:0% en nie te lank gelede 02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:33.990 align:start position:0% en nie te lank gelede um 02:13:33.990 --> 02:13:34.000 align:start position:0% um 02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:36.709 align:start position:0% um en <02:13:34.639>uh 02:13:36.709 --> 02:13:36.719 align:start position:0% en uh 02:13:36.719 --> 02:13:38.310 align:start position:0% en uh dit <02:13:36.939>was <02:13:37.159>'n <02:13:37.379>gevoel <02:13:37.599>van 02:13:38.310 --> 02:13:38.320 align:start position:0% dit was 'n gevoel van 02:13:38.320 --> 02:13:39.510 align:start position:0% dit was 'n gevoel van jou <02:13:38.480>weet 02:13:39.510 --> 02:13:39.520 align:start position:0% jou weet 02:13:39.520 --> 02:13:41.750 align:start position:0% jou weet dit <02:13:39.743>is <02:13:39.966>dalk <02:13:40.189>hoe <02:13:40.412>dit <02:13:40.635>eindig 02:13:41.750 --> 02:13:41.760 align:start position:0% dit is dalk hoe dit eindig 02:13:41.760 --> 02:13:42.830 align:start position:0% dit is dalk hoe dit eindig en 02:13:42.830 --> 02:13:42.840 align:start position:0% en 02:13:42.840 --> 02:13:45.669 align:start position:0% en ek <02:13:43.250>het <02:13:43.660>my <02:13:44.070>bes <02:13:44.480>gedoen 02:13:45.669 --> 02:13:45.679 align:start position:0% ek het my bes gedoen 02:13:45.679 --> 02:13:48.149 align:start position:0% ek het my bes gedoen dit <02:13:45.819>was <02:13:45.959>nie <02:13:46.099>perfek <02:13:46.239>nie 02:13:48.149 --> 02:13:48.159 align:start position:0% dit was nie perfek nie 02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:51.189 align:start position:0% dit was nie perfek nie en <02:13:48.479>as <02:13:48.799>dit <02:13:49.119>hier <02:13:49.439>eindig <02:13:49.759>eindig <02:13:50.079>dit <02:13:50.399>hier <02:13:50.719>probeer <02:13:51.039>die 02:13:51.189 --> 02:13:51.199 align:start position:0% en as dit hier eindig eindig dit hier probeer die 02:13:51.199 --> 02:13:52.550 align:start position:0% en as dit hier eindig eindig dit hier probeer die mense <02:13:51.439>om <02:13:51.679>my <02:13:51.919>hul <02:13:52.159>bes <02:13:52.399>doen 02:13:52.550 --> 02:13:52.560 align:start position:0% mense om my hul bes doen 02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:54.390 align:start position:0% mense om my hul bes doen 02:13:54.390 --> 02:13:54.400 align:start position:0% 02:13:54.400 --> 02:13:57.750 align:start position:0% en <02:13:54.912>eintlik <02:13:55.424>is <02:13:55.936>ek <02:13:56.448>uitgetrek <02:13:56.960>daarvan 02:13:57.750 --> 02:13:57.760 align:start position:0% en eintlik is ek uitgetrek daarvan 02:13:57.760 --> 02:13:59.189 align:start position:0% en eintlik is ek uitgetrek daarvan maar <02:13:57.986>dit <02:13:58.212>het <02:13:58.438>nie <02:13:58.664>gelyk <02:13:58.890>of <02:13:59.116>ek 02:13:59.189 --> 02:13:59.199 align:start position:0% maar dit het nie gelyk of ek 02:13:59.199 --> 02:14:01.430 align:start position:0% maar dit het nie gelyk of ek daaruit <02:13:59.379>getrek <02:13:59.559>gaan <02:13:59.739>word <02:13:59.919>nie 02:14:01.430 --> 02:14:01.440 align:start position:0% daaruit getrek gaan word nie 02:14:01.440 --> 02:14:04.709 align:start position:0% daaruit getrek gaan word nie is <02:14:01.760>jy <02:14:02.080>uiteindelik <02:14:02.400>dankbaar 02:14:04.709 --> 02:14:04.719 align:start position:0% is jy uiteindelik dankbaar 02:14:04.719 --> 02:14:06.069 align:start position:0% is jy uiteindelik dankbaar vir <02:14:04.879>die <02:14:05.039>rit 02:14:06.069 --> 02:14:06.079 align:start position:0% vir die rit 02:14:06.079 --> 02:14:09.189 align:start position:0% vir die rit al <02:14:06.499>eindig <02:14:06.919>dit <02:14:07.339>goed <02:14:07.759>dis 02:14:09.189 --> 02:14:09.199 align:start position:0% al eindig dit goed dis 02:14:09.199 --> 02:14:11.750 align:start position:0% al eindig dit goed dis bietjie <02:14:09.440>warm 02:14:11.750 --> 02:14:11.760 align:start position:0% 02:14:11.760 --> 02:14:13.030 align:start position:0% ek <02:14:11.959>dink <02:14:12.158>so 02:14:13.030 --> 02:14:13.040 align:start position:0% ek dink so 02:14:13.040 --> 02:14:14.069 align:start position:0% ek dink so as <02:14:13.200>ek <02:14:13.360>weet 02:14:14.069 --> 02:14:14.079 align:start position:0% as ek weet 02:14:14.079 --> 02:14:15.750 align:start position:0% as ek weet jy <02:14:14.256>weet <02:14:14.433>jy <02:14:14.610>kan <02:14:14.787>nie <02:14:14.964>die <02:14:15.141>rit <02:14:15.318>vat <02:14:15.495>as <02:14:15.672>jy 02:14:15.750 --> 02:14:15.760 align:start position:0% jy weet jy kan nie die rit vat as jy 02:14:15.760 --> 02:14:18.709 align:start position:0% jy weet jy kan nie die rit vat as jy weet <02:14:15.986>wat <02:14:16.212>die <02:14:16.438>dit <02:14:16.664>gaan <02:14:16.890>goed <02:14:17.116>eindig 02:14:18.709 --> 02:14:18.719 align:start position:0% weet wat die dit gaan goed eindig 02:14:18.719 --> 02:14:21.030 align:start position:0% weet wat die dit gaan goed eindig dit <02:14:18.852>is <02:14:18.985>nie <02:14:19.118>die <02:14:19.251>regte <02:14:19.384>rit <02:14:19.517>nie <02:14:19.650>dit <02:14:19.783>is <02:14:19.916>net <02:14:20.049>'n <02:14:20.182>r <02:14:20.315>Idee 02:14:21.030 --> 02:14:21.040 align:start position:0% dit is nie die regte rit nie dit is net 'n r Idee 02:14:21.040 --> 02:14:22.069 align:start position:0% dit is nie die regte rit nie dit is net 'n r Idee um 02:14:22.069 --> 02:14:22.079 align:start position:0% um 02:14:22.079 --> 02:14:23.270 align:start position:0% um maar <02:14:22.400>ek 02:14:23.270 --> 02:14:23.280 align:start position:0% maar ek 02:14:23.280 --> 02:14:26.390 align:start position:0% maar ek het <02:14:23.484>nog <02:14:23.688>nie <02:14:23.892>deur <02:14:24.096>die <02:14:24.300>hele <02:14:24.504>ding <02:14:24.708>gegaan <02:14:24.912>nie <02:14:25.116>ek 02:14:26.390 --> 02:14:26.400 align:start position:0% het nog nie deur die hele ding gegaan nie ek 02:14:26.400 --> 02:14:29.109 align:start position:0% het nog nie deur die hele ding gegaan nie ek het <02:14:26.754>my <02:14:27.108>beslis <02:14:27.462>bevry <02:14:27.816>van <02:14:28.170>'n <02:14:28.524>gevoel <02:14:28.878>van 02:14:29.109 --> 02:14:29.119 align:start position:0% het my beslis bevry van 'n gevoel van 02:14:29.119 --> 02:14:31.189 align:start position:0% het my beslis bevry van 'n gevoel van angs <02:14:29.492>oor <02:14:29.865>die <02:14:30.238>dood 02:14:31.189 --> 02:14:31.199 align:start position:0% angs oor die dood 02:14:31.199 --> 02:14:32.550 align:start position:0% angs oor die dood en <02:14:31.599>dit 02:14:32.550 --> 02:14:32.560 align:start position:0% en dit 02:14:32.560 --> 02:14:35.430 align:start position:0% en dit het <02:14:32.800>vir <02:14:33.040>my <02:14:33.280>gesê <02:14:33.520>doen <02:14:33.760>jy <02:14:34.000>bes <02:14:34.240>elke <02:14:34.480>dag 02:14:35.430 --> 02:14:35.440 align:start position:0% het vir my gesê doen jy bes elke dag 02:14:35.440 --> 02:14:38.310 align:start position:0% het vir my gesê doen jy bes elke dag want <02:14:35.588>dit <02:14:35.736>gaan <02:14:35.884>een <02:14:36.032>of <02:14:36.180>ander <02:14:36.328>tyd <02:14:36.476>eindig 02:14:38.310 --> 02:14:38.320 align:start position:0% want dit gaan een of ander tyd eindig 02:14:38.320 --> 02:14:40.310 align:start position:0% want dit gaan een of ander tyd eindig ek <02:14:38.571>vra <02:14:38.822>om <02:14:39.073>verskoning <02:14:39.324>vir <02:14:39.575>die <02:14:39.826>belaglike <02:14:40.077>groot 02:14:40.310 --> 02:14:40.320 align:start position:0% ek vra om verskoning vir die belaglike groot 02:14:40.320 --> 02:14:42.709 align:start position:0% ek vra om verskoning vir die belaglike groot vraag <02:14:40.530>maar <02:14:40.740>wat <02:14:40.950>doen <02:14:41.160>jy <02:14:41.370>dink <02:14:41.580>is <02:14:41.790>die <02:14:42.000>uh 02:14:42.709 --> 02:14:42.719 align:start position:0% vraag maar wat doen jy dink is die uh 02:14:42.719 --> 02:14:44.149 align:start position:0% vraag maar wat doen jy dink is die uh die <02:14:42.880>sin 02:14:44.149 --> 02:14:44.159 align:start position:0% die sin 02:14:44.159 --> 02:14:45.669 align:start position:0% die sin van <02:14:44.319>die <02:14:44.479>lewe 02:14:45.669 --> 02:14:45.679 align:start position:0% van die lewe 02:14:45.679 --> 02:14:51.990 align:start position:0% van die lewe van <02:14:45.999>ons <02:14:46.319>menslike <02:14:46.639>bestaan 02:14:51.990 --> 02:14:52.000 align:start position:0% 02:14:52.000 --> 02:14:54.470 align:start position:0% k <02:14:52.152>dit <02:14:52.304>is <02:14:52.456>om <02:14:52.608>oor <02:14:52.760>iets <02:14:52.912>om <02:14:53.064>te <02:14:53.216>gee <02:14:53.368>en <02:14:53.520>jo 02:14:54.470 --> 02:14:54.480 align:start position:0% k dit is om oor iets om te gee en jo 02:14:54.480 --> 02:14:56.870 align:start position:0% k dit is om oor iets om te gee en jo bes <02:14:54.688>daarmee <02:14:54.896>te <02:14:55.104>doen <02:14:55.312>of <02:14:55.520>di 02:14:56.870 --> 02:14:56.880 align:start position:0% bes daarmee te doen of di 02:14:56.880 --> 02:14:59.510 align:start position:0% bes daarmee te doen of di nou <02:14:57.211>'n <02:14:57.542>dokter <02:14:57.873>is <02:14:58.204>en <02:14:58.535>probeer <02:14:58.866>om <02:14:59.197>se 02:14:59.510 --> 02:14:59.520 align:start position:0% nou 'n dokter is en probeer om se 02:14:59.520 --> 02:15:00.870 align:start position:0% nou 'n dokter is en probeer om se 02:15:00.870 --> 02:15:00.880 align:start position:0% 02:15:00.880 --> 02:15:02.790 align:start position:0% er <02:15:01.142>te <02:15:01.404>maak <02:15:01.666>dat <02:15:01.928>die <02:15:02.190>grootste <02:15:02.452>aantal <02:15:02.714>mense 02:15:02.790 --> 02:15:02.800 align:start position:0% er te maak dat die grootste aantal mense 02:15:02.800 --> 02:15:05.109 align:start position:0% er te maak dat die grootste aantal mense die <02:15:03.008>beste <02:15:03.216>gesondheidsorg <02:15:03.424>kry, <02:15:03.632>of <02:15:03.840>di 02:15:05.109 --> 02:15:05.119 align:start position:0% die beste gesondheidsorg kry, of di 02:15:05.119 --> 02:15:06.310 align:start position:0% die beste gesondheidsorg kry, of di 02:15:06.310 --> 02:15:06.320 align:start position:0% 02:15:06.320 --> 02:15:08.149 align:start position:0% is <02:15:06.759>'n <02:15:07.198>tuinier <02:15:07.637>wat <02:15:08.076>die 02:15:08.149 --> 02:15:08.159 align:start position:0% is 'n tuinier wat die 02:15:08.159 --> 02:15:09.669 align:start position:0% is 'n tuinier wat die mooiste <02:15:08.364>plante <02:15:08.569>wil <02:15:08.774>hê <02:15:08.979>of <02:15:09.184>dit <02:15:09.389>is <02:15:09.594>'n 02:15:09.669 --> 02:15:09.679 align:start position:0% mooiste plante wil hê of dit is 'n 02:15:09.679 --> 02:15:12.069 align:start position:0% mooiste plante wil hê of dit is 'n grootouer <02:15:10.399>wat <02:15:11.119>'n <02:15:11.839>goeie 02:15:12.069 --> 02:15:12.079 align:start position:0% grootouer wat 'n goeie 02:15:12.079 --> 02:15:13.669 align:start position:0% grootouer wat 'n goeie verhouding <02:15:12.255>met <02:15:12.431>hul <02:15:12.607>kleinkinders <02:15:12.783>wil <02:15:12.959>hê 02:15:13.669 --> 02:15:13.679 align:start position:0% verhouding met hul kleinkinders wil hê 02:15:13.679 --> 02:15:16.310 align:start position:0% verhouding met hul kleinkinders wil hê maar <02:15:13.919>wat <02:15:14.159>dit <02:15:14.399>ook <02:15:14.639>al <02:15:14.879>is 02:15:16.310 --> 02:15:16.320 align:start position:0% maar wat dit ook al is 02:15:16.320 --> 02:15:19.030 align:start position:0% maar wat dit ook al is wat <02:15:16.600>jou <02:15:16.880>'n <02:15:17.160>gevoel <02:15:17.440>van <02:15:17.720>betekenis <02:15:18.000>gee 02:15:19.030 --> 02:15:19.040 align:start position:0% wat jou 'n gevoel van betekenis gee 02:15:19.040 --> 02:15:21.750 align:start position:0% wat jou 'n gevoel van betekenis gee solank <02:15:19.296>dit <02:15:19.552>nie <02:15:19.808>ander <02:15:20.064>mense <02:15:20.320>seermaak 02:15:21.750 --> 02:15:22.950 align:start position:0% solank dit nie ander mense seermaak 02:15:22.950 --> 02:15:22.960 align:start position:0% 02:15:22.960 --> 02:15:24.870 align:start position:0% om <02:15:23.120>jouself <02:15:23.280>regtig <02:15:23.440>daartoe <02:15:23.600>te <02:15:23.760>verbind <02:15:23.920>nie 02:15:24.870 --> 02:15:24.880 align:start position:0% om jouself regtig daartoe te verbind nie 02:15:24.880 --> 02:15:26.790 align:start position:0% om jouself regtig daartoe te verbind nie daardie <02:15:25.216>verbintenis <02:15:25.552>dat <02:15:25.888>om <02:15:26.224>in <02:15:26.560>daardie 02:15:26.790 --> 02:15:26.800 align:start position:0% daardie verbintenis dat om in daardie 02:15:26.800 --> 02:15:29.750 align:start position:0% daardie verbintenis dat om in daardie verbintenis <02:15:27.020>vir <02:15:27.240>my <02:15:27.460>die <02:15:27.680>betekenis <02:15:27.900>van <02:15:28.120>die <02:15:28.340>lewe <02:15:28.560>is, 02:15:29.750 --> 02:15:29.760 align:start position:0% verbintenis vir my die betekenis van die lewe is, 02:15:29.760 --> 02:15:31.270 align:start position:0% verbintenis vir my die betekenis van die lewe is, sit <02:15:29.999>jou <02:15:30.238>hele 02:15:31.270 --> 02:15:31.280 align:start position:0% sit jou hele 02:15:31.280 --> 02:15:34.310 align:start position:0% sit jou hele hart <02:15:31.546>en <02:15:31.812>siel <02:15:32.078>in <02:15:32.344>die <02:15:32.610>ding <02:15:32.876>ja 02:15:34.310 --> 02:15:34.320 align:start position:0% hart en siel in die ding ja 02:15:34.320 --> 02:15:36.790 align:start position:0% hart en siel in die ding ja wat <02:15:34.609>is <02:15:34.898>dit <02:15:35.187>die <02:15:35.476>bukowski <02:15:35.765>gedig <02:15:36.054>gaan <02:15:36.343>al <02:15:36.632>die 02:15:36.790 --> 02:15:36.800 align:start position:0% wat is dit die bukowski gedig gaan al die 02:15:36.800 --> 02:15:38.790 align:start position:0% wat is dit die bukowski gedig gaan al die pad 02:15:38.790 --> 02:15:38.800 align:start position:0% pad 02:15:38.800 --> 02:15:41.350 align:start position:0% pad john <02:15:39.186>um <02:15:39.572>jy <02:15:39.958>is <02:15:40.344>'n <02:15:40.730>ongelooflike <02:15:41.116>mens 02:15:41.350 --> 02:15:41.360 align:start position:0% john um jy is 'n ongelooflike mens 02:15:41.360 --> 02:15:43.030 align:start position:0% john um jy is 'n ongelooflike mens ongelooflike <02:15:41.626>opvoeder <02:15:41.892>soos <02:15:42.158>ek <02:15:42.424>gesê <02:15:42.690>het <02:15:42.956>ek 02:15:43.030 --> 02:15:43.040 align:start position:0% ongelooflike opvoeder soos ek gesê het ek 02:15:43.040 --> 02:15:44.950 align:start position:0% ongelooflike opvoeder soos ek gesê het ek beveel <02:15:43.210>mense <02:15:43.380>aan <02:15:43.550>om <02:15:43.720>na <02:15:43.890>jou <02:15:44.060>lesings <02:15:44.230>te <02:15:44.400>luister 02:15:44.950 --> 02:15:44.960 align:start position:0% beveel mense aan om na jou lesings te luister 02:15:44.960 --> 02:15:47.430 align:start position:0% beveel mense aan om na jou lesings te luister dis <02:15:45.293>so <02:15:45.626>verfrissend <02:15:45.959>om <02:15:46.292>te <02:15:46.625>sien <02:15:46.958>dat 02:15:47.430 --> 02:15:47.440 align:start position:0% dis so verfrissend om te sien dat 02:15:47.440 --> 02:15:49.430 align:start position:0% dis so verfrissend om te sien dat helderheid <02:15:47.791>van <02:15:48.142>denke <02:15:48.493>en <02:15:48.844>briljantheid <02:15:49.195>en 02:15:49.430 --> 02:15:49.440 align:start position:0% helderheid van denke en briljantheid en 02:15:49.440 --> 02:15:51.750 align:start position:0% helderheid van denke en briljantheid en natuurlik <02:15:49.760>jou <02:15:50.080>kritiek <02:15:50.400>op <02:15:50.720>groot <02:15:51.040>farmaseutiese 02:15:51.750 --> 02:15:51.760 align:start position:0% natuurlik jou kritiek op groot farmaseutiese 02:15:51.760 --> 02:15:54.149 align:start position:0% natuurlik jou kritiek 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