This is about what I understand about the progression here: —Academic culture understanding of post-irony as any kind of "higher irony" (this was big in russian meme communities for a while and probably before this something something david foster wallace) —The Philosopher's Meme (using terms like meta-ironic and post-ironic to describe trends in memes, as well as codifying post-ironic and meta-ironic as higher "layers" of irony) —My video (mainly just codifying meta-irony as a form of ambiguous irony, I did not change anything about post-irony other than differentiating it from meta-irony and clarifying post-irony as a "return to sincerity" based on a wikipedia page which doesn't even say what I remember it saying 2 years ago l o l) —Other videos / articles expanding on the layering system —Idubbbz vid (circle theory) Probably missing some info but this isn't a history that's been formally recorded anywhere so let me know if you can fill in the blanks I use the word "coin" in this video wrong, what I meant to say was in the original video I specifically defined meta-irony as the kind of ambigous irony that idubbbz is talking about in his vid. I did not invent the words post-irony & meta-irony or ironic layering. I did however invent irony. THE IRONYSPHERE The Philosophers Meme (my forefathers): https://thephilosophersmeme.com/ (one of the founders is playing with irony on linkedin here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seongyher/) I am working on an article with The Philsopher's Meme about this. Olisunvia (well-done and humble analysis of zoomer culture through ironic lens): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1LyT... Timmy M (great examples throughout channel): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yso4r... Idubbbz doco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTdu... Origin video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuSv... I never want to make another reaction video again https://www.reddit.com/r/jreg https://www.twitter.com/mc_swm https://www.patreon.com/jreg